Strange Talk - Young Hearts · forum

Vespirit

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2017-01-06T16:50:53+00:00

Fatfan Kolek wrote:
[Easy]
00:24:164 - feels kinda empty here, i know you're following mostly vocals here, but I'd fill this section with sliders anyways as it feels kiiinda undermapped right now, something like this would be good imo http://puu.sh/tcPhv/22ede95f2a.jpg removed the 1/2 gap but otherwise took your suggestion
00:44:564 - this should be tappable, means there should be a circle or a slider start, because this sound is strong and needs to be emphasized as this, make a normal slider instead of a repeatslider here 00:43:364 - and put a circle here 00:44:564 - idk i disagree here, it sounds the same to me as any other clap
Good job, nice diff! :3

[Normal]
00:22:564 (1) - you can emphasize vocals here more if you put 2 short sliders like this http://puu.sh/tcPCe/66fcc77855.jpg
00:53:764 (5) - yeah, shorten the repeatslider to a normal slider and put a circle with NC here 00:54:564 - , makes things more consistent, you could do it here aswell 01:00:564 (6) - , but the vocal on it is stronger, so it's more fitting there did the first one because i think the sound warrants a circle there, but its not as strong on the second one
00:57:764 - Im wondering why you mapped the calm section here and in the easy diff you didn't easy diffs should have more break time
01:16:564 (5,6,1) - mmh, the stack feels a bit confusing without any spacing imo, i'd just space it with distance snap instead of stacking it hmm idk i might wait for a second opinion here, i stacked them because they are all the same sound and i didnt want it to be too hard
01:20:164 (8) - NC here instead of 01:20:564 - for consistency it is already consistent, where i nc when the lyrics start
Also a neat difficulty!

[Hard]
00:30:764 - it's a holding sound here, so i'd suggest a slider instead of a circle
00:37:164 - this feels too undermapped for a hard diff, i'd suggest making the rhythm more dense
00:55:964 (1,2) - those two sliders look kinda weird in the editor, they play normal, but they just look not that good to me
[Carry On]
00:54:164 (5) - blanket can be improved ok should be good now
01:22:364 (4,5,6,7,8) - this star is kinda ugly if you look at it in the editor, Ctrl+Shift+D and you can make a better looking star like this http://puu.sh/tcQH6/cc9db0fe95.jpg attempted a fix, i hope its not ugly anymore xD

Hard difficulty has more Objects, because it's mapped more densely in the calm parts, not sure if this might be a problem in the spread then. Consider this. Other than that, this mapset is pretty good to go imo. :p

Idk i dont think it would be too much of a problem since its different mappers' interpretation, but I'm not 100% on this...

Anyway thanks a lot for modding!

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-01-06T16:56:09+00:00

Fatfan Kolek wrote:
[Hard]
00:30:764 - it's a holding sound here, so i'd suggest a slider instead of a circle Yeah i guess i could use a 1/2 slider there since i do use sliders like that for some other hold sounds such as 00:38:164 (3) - this one
00:37:164 - this feels too undermapped for a hard diff, i'd suggest making the rhythm more dense There isn't anything that i would want to follow
00:55:964 (1,2) - those two sliders look kinda weird in the editor, they play normal, but they just look not that good to me I like that kind of patterns so i woin't change them. Though the way i have mapped around them may be "not working" with a pattern like that since you didn't note these 00:47:364 (3,4) - out so i may tweak that by a bit

Hard difficulty has more Objects, because it's mapped more densely in the calm parts, not sure if this might be a problem in the spread then. Consider this. We appearently have different opinions about what should be mapped... I mainly focus to map to the vocals and the stronger beats (for this song) and hydro appearently maps to the general beat and I don't see anything wrong with that

Other than that, this mapset is pretty good to go imo. :p

Thanks for modding

Updated

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Astarte

303 posts

Joined December 2014

Astarte 2017-01-18T02:29:51+00:00

my m4m part o/
not like it'll help anyway... =='

SB

First, I don't really like the font as it doesn't really fit. It's cursive so it's more like formal and academic, and quite frankly, old school. The song has a young wild free sort of feeling to it so consider changing it to something like a handwriting font...
Lyrics moves a bit too fast, maybe reduce their distance like in half. It's also too low down the screen, and touches my acc bar :/
I hope you're paying attention to your sb load, cuz thats kinda a big thing here.
Sprites no longer in use should disappear/fade right when they move off the screen (they're no longer visible anyway) but seems like it's not the case here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7085955
load is only 3x so I guess that's fine, but the kiai, not really...
If you notice the load in the kiai kept increasing. Cuz more particles are being generated while none are really fading out.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7085973 9x load holy. This is one of the heaviest sbs I know. I dunno a quick way to reduce this, I guess the only way is to recode the particle generator :/
The overlay in the kiai is scaled or positioned wrong, if you look at the transition here 01:23:164 -
You could also make the rings in the kiai diff-specific, just simply copy them to the diffs and change their coordinates, but I guess it's up to you

Arduck's Easy

You should consider "simplifying" the diff a bit... I believe the only reason that it stays below 1.5 is your big CS

00:19:364 (1,2) - I don't see a reason why you use 1/2 here. 1/2 should be used only if the song really suggested so, so that it's easily predictable for beginners, or you must use reversed polarity/syncopation. I mean what's the importance of that 1/2 note that you need to map it? imo, (1) could be a 2/1 slider, or make it 3/2 and remove the circle
00:20:964 - don't NC here. In easier diffs you NC every 1st and 3rd downbeats, not every downbeat
00:24:164 (1,2,3,1) - kinda bad... not sure how to fix your rhythm. I'd use 3/2 sliders
00:27:764 (3) - big no no to these kinds of 1/2 non-repeats sliders in easy... again, 3/2 sliders at 00:27:364 - would map the snare you're trying to go for
01:26:564 - every diff ends here. Any reason why yours is unique? I strongly suggest you map that super intense part of the kiai, and have a spinner like all other diffs.
01:10:564 - what I also dislike about your diff is that you released a TON of downbeats instead of making it clickable. What's more, this is the start of a kiai, pls explain why you mapped it this way :/

Well I guess I'll stop here. I'd say a remap is greatly appreciated tho. Imo, in easies, you should follow what's most prominent, either vocals or white ticks. There's no reason why you should use 1/2 to follow the drums in an easy. I know you're trying to not make this boring, but don't make it hard to play also. A boring easy is quite normal imo, as it's kinda meant to be that way. Have you seen the easy for this map? It's like same BPM, more upbeat song, >1.5* and is more boring than your diff.

Normal

00:17:764 (1) - spin time is kinda short don't you think? Recovery time is too also
00:23:964 (3) - you mapped this but I think this 00:23:164 - is a more important vocal part. Move the circle there instead?
00:39:364 (2) - I'd curve this a bit for a better flow like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7086347
00:55:164 - why'd you skip this?

That's all I can find

Nowa's Hard

00:22:364 - i'd prefer this and 00:23:964 - to be mapped
00:31:164 (3) - drum at this sliderend is quite significant, probably make this 1/1 then replace it with a circle. 00:31:564 - should be mapped too so why not
00:33:764 (1) - this would fit better if it's 1/1, cuz it's not really an intense part and it's consistent with what you did here 00:36:164 (3) - . same as 00:36:764 - and onward too
01:15:764 (2,3,4) - a bit awkward flow here, or its just me
01:18:164 (4) - 1/4 extended? 01:19:364 (4) -
01:21:764 - you could break away from ds this part a bit. It's quite an upbeat part and it's kiai end

Carry on

idk why i don't really like the diff name xd

00:39:164 (2,4) - these 2 are kinda too close to each other compared to the rest
00:44:764 - map this?
00:46:164 (4,1) - idk about space out 1/4 gaps here tho. You used it for more intense parts like kiai but maybe do semi-stacks to make it fit the part better since it's not really as uplifted as the kiai

Yea that's all I can find, imo best diff in the set
as i said, unhelpful ;w;

Nice set. All the best and GOOD LUCK >v<

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-01-18T22:39:41+00:00

Astarte wrote:
my m4m part o/

Nowa's Hard
00:22:364 - i'd prefer this and 00:23:964 - to be mapped Imo mapping the "and" would just ramp up the intensity too much for that part. Ignoring the fall was my mistake and it will be fix'd
00:31:164 (3) - drum at this sliderend is quite significant, probably make this 1/1 then replace it with a circle. 00:31:564 - should be mapped too so why not Done, i do disagree this 00:31:564 - begin mapped because there is literally nothing mappable under it but i can deal with having it under a slidertail
00:33:764 (1) - this would fit better if it's 1/1, cuz it's not really an intense part and it's consistent with what you did here 00:36:164 (3) - . same as 00:36:764 - and onward too Problem is that i follow the vocals. 00:33:764 - "Go" is a 1/2 hold sound and 00:34:164 - "to" is whatever it is. It can not be compared to the other "similar" spots because they are not similar
01:15:764 (2,3,4) - a bit awkward flow here, or its just me Sense making mapping > Comforable flow. Anyway there were other things i don't like in the mapping so i rewoked few of the patterns. I will take flow little bit more into count for the new patterns
01:18:164 (4) - 1/4 extended? 01:19:364 (4) - ????
01:21:764 - you could break away from ds this part a bit. It's quite an upbeat part and it's kiai end I like how it is rn

Nice set. All the best and GOOD LUCK >v<

Sank yoo~

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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2017-01-20T00:48:08+00:00

Astarte wrote:
my m4m part o/
not like it'll help anyway... =='
Normal
00:17:764 (1) - spin time is kinda short don't you think? Recovery time is too also idk seems like players can get a sufficient bonus score on it, plus idk what to do to make recovery any longer than it is...
00:23:964 (3) - you mapped this but I think this 00:23:164 - is a more important vocal part. Move the circle there instead? good idea =)
00:39:364 (2) - I'd curve this a bit for a better flow like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7086347 hmm i guess so
00:55:164 - why'd you skip this? not a vocal, so skipped since i map the vocals
That's all I can find
Carry on
idk why i don't really like the diff name xd no one does except me D:
00:39:164 (2,4) - these 2 are kinda too close to each other compared to the rest moved away ever so slightly
00:44:764 - map this? dunno sounds to me like the pause better compliments the music
00:46:164 (4,1) - idk about space out 1/4 gaps here tho. You used it for more intense parts like kiai but maybe do semi-stacks to make it fit the part better since it's not really as uplifted as the kiai tbh they arent even that big, its the same distance multiplier as other 1/2 parts of this section
Yea that's all I can find, imo best diff in the set
as i said, unhelpful ;w;

Nice set. All the best and GOOD LUCK >v<

Unhelpful? i disagree... even if the mapper doesnt take suggestions right away, it still makes them aware of the fact that someone else thinks there is a better way to do things. so thanks a lot for your mod!!

Arduck

56 posts

Joined December 2015

Arduck 2017-01-21T11:47:56+00:00

Astarte wrote:
Arduck's Easy
You should consider "simplifying" the diff a bit... I believe the only reason that it stays below 1.5 is your big CS
00:19:364 (1,2) - I don't see a reason why you use 1/2 here. 1/2 should be used only if the song really suggested so, so that it's easily predictable for beginners, or you must use reversed polarity/syncopation. I mean what's the importance of that 1/2 note that you need to map it? imo, (1) could be a 2/1 slider, or make it 3/2 and remove the circle
00:20:964 - don't NC here. In easier diffs you NC every 1st and 3rd downbeats, not every downbeat
00:24:164 (1,2,3,1) - kinda bad... not sure how to fix your rhythm. I'd use 3/2 sliders
00:27:764 (3) - big no no to these kinds of 1/2 non-repeats sliders in easy... again, 3/2 sliders at 00:27:364 - would map the snare you're trying to go for
01:26:564 - every diff ends here. Any reason why yours is unique? I strongly suggest you map that super intense part of the kiai, and have a spinner like all other diffs.
01:10:564 - what I also dislike about your diff is that you released a TON of downbeats instead of making it clickable. What's more, this is the start of a kiai, pls explain why you mapped it this way :/
Well I guess I'll stop here. I'd say a remap is greatly appreciated tho. Imo, in easies, you should follow what's most prominent, either vocals or white ticks. There's no reason why you should use 1/2 to follow the drums in an easy. I know you're trying to not make this boring, but don't make it hard to play also. A boring easy is quite normal imo, as it's kinda meant to be that way. Have you seen the easy for this map? It's like same BPM, more upbeat song, >1.5* and is more boring than your diff.

Taking into consideration the points mentioned above, I think a remap is a good idea as well. I understand what you're saying and I don't even know why I didn't implement this logic into mapping this difficulty.

Thank you very much for your mod ;3

Nice set. All the best and GOOD LUCK >v< ty <3

Here's the new GD

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Toyosaki Aki

337 posts

Joined February 2014

Toyosaki Aki 2017-03-06T09:01:59+00:00

Hi, as m4m :3

Arduck's Easy

00:34:364 (2) - maybe add Sampleset Drum on slider's head?
looks fine

Normal

00:54:564 (6) - nc
00:54:964 (1) - remove nc
01:19:764 (7,8) - would change them to a 1/1 slider for consistency with 01:13:364 (7) - ?
01:16:564 (5,6,1) - I guess this stack is a bit hard to read for newbie ; ; How about using 1/2 slider instead of 01:16:564 (5) - ?
01:02:364 (3,4) - this space makes it difficult to play just because 01:03:164 (4) - starts from red tick (and circles are always harder than sliders ofc). So I suggest you change 01:02:364 (3) - to reverse slider and delete 01:03:164 (4) - .
01:03:164 (4) - add clap

Nowa's Hard

00:31:764 (4) - add sampleset drum, clap?
00:57:164 (5) - maybe remove whistle and clap?
01:07:764 (2) - remove clap
placement looks fine

Carry On

00:50:164 (2,3,4,5,6) - I felt a bit weird this pattern. It's my preference tho, how about this?
01:00:164 (2) - looks too curvy?
SPOILER
move 01:15:964 (3) - to about x:270|y:217 and 01:15:164 (1) - to x:310|y:137 ? you can true up the distance of 01:15:564 (2,3,4) - and make 01:15:164 (1,2,3) - triangle.

that's all I can point out ;;
nice mapset, good luck!

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-03-06T20:30:20+00:00

Toyosaki Aki wrote:
Nowa's Hard
00:31:764 (4) - add sampleset drum, clap? Auto|Auto Clap sounds more impactful for that kind of a impacting beat :>
00:57:164 (5) - maybe remove whistle and clap? It's mapped on a strong drum hit (clap) and on a vocal line (whistle)
01:07:764 (2) - remove clap oh yeah, done
placement looks fine

that's all I can point out ;;
nice mapset, good luck!

Thanks a lot :>

Upd

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Arduck

56 posts

Joined December 2015

Arduck 2017-03-06T20:54:44+00:00

Toyosaki Aki wrote:
Arduck's Easy
00:34:364 (2) - maybe add Sampleset Drum on slider's head? Whoops missed that one ;D thanks for noticing ;3
looks fine <3

nice mapset, good luck! Thank you for the mod and the star as well D: We 'll do our best <3

Hitsounding Fix

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Strange Talk - Young Hearts.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 70564
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Young Hearts
TitleUnicode:Young Hearts
Artist:Strange Talk
ArtistUnicode:Strange Talk
Creator:HydroCannon13
Version:Arduck's Easy
Source:
Tags:synth pop cast away arduck dtm9 nowa slayed
BeatmapID:1176173
BeatmapSetID:488230

[Difficulty]
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OverallDifficulty:2
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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2017-03-06T23:51:33+00:00

Toyosaki Aki wrote:
Hi, as m4m :3
Normal
00:54:564 (6) - nc
00:54:964 (1) - remove nc fixed, and above too
01:19:764 (7,8) - would change them to a 1/1 slider for consistency with 01:13:364 (7) - ? i originally made it a 1/2 slider because there was a triple there but i like it as a 1/1 =p
01:16:564 (5,6,1) - I guess this stack is a bit hard to read for newbie ; ; How about using 1/2 slider instead of 01:16:564 (5) - ? not sure if i want to do that since the part the circles map is much stronger than the 1/2 slider that came before :/
01:02:364 (3,4) - this space makes it difficult to play just because 01:03:164 (4) - starts from red tick (and circles are always harder than sliders ofc). So I suggest you change 01:02:364 (3) - to reverse slider and delete 01:03:164 (4) - . good idea =)
01:03:164 (4) - add clap imo no need for clap

Carry On
00:50:164 (2,3,4,5,6) - I felt a bit weird this pattern. It's my preference tho, how about this?
i like this, good idea
01:00:164 (2) - looks too curvy? changed it to something other than a curve instead
SPOILER
move 01:15:964 (3) - to about x:270|y:217 and 01:15:164 (1) - to x:310|y:137 ? you can true up the distance of 01:15:564 (2,3,4) - and make 01:15:164 (1,2,3) - triangle. alright, i did that

that's all I can point out ;;
nice mapset, good luck!

Thanks for m4ming and for the star!

Bluekrait

202 posts

Joined March 2014

Bluekrait 2017-03-19T13:51:29+00:00

HydroCannon13's free #modhelp request

[Arduck's Easy]

00:19:364 (1) - Consider extending this slider to the white tick on 00:20:164 (2) and adjust spacing. Remember this is Easy difficulty, so we need to keep the rhythm simple to follow for new players.
00:24:164 (2) - ^
00:25:764 (1) - ^
00:30:564 (1) - ^
00:27:364 (3,1) - Consider increasing gap spacing between these two sliders for better aesthetics. Example to something like this.
00:52:564 (3,1) - Watch your spacing here. Decrease to 1.00 for consistency.
NC Mod
For this difficulty, try new comboing once per 2 measures (once per every 2 big white ticks).
00:30:564 (1) - no NC
00:33:764 (1) - ^
00:41:764 (3) - NC
00:46:564 (1) - no NC
00:49:764 (1) - ^
00:52:964 (1) - ^
01:05:764 (1) - ^

[Normal]

00:19:964 (1) - Move to x:192 y:108 for better readability
00:30:564 (3) - Move to x:351 y:74 for better readability

[Nowa's Hard]

00:44:964 (1,2) - 00:51:364 (1,2) - Me nitpicking here, but I would unstack the first set or stack the second set for consistency.
01:08:764 (5,1) - Consider remapping this to 01:08:764 (5,1,2) -

Drum on the big white tick is the main reason. You don't want to have a slider end on it.

[Carry On]

01:07:364 (1) - I would map this instead of just putting a spinner. Since it's the last diff, I think it can only benefit from mapping those drums!

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2017-03-19T15:07:42+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
HydroCannon13's free #modhelp request

[Normal]
00:19:964 (1) - Move to x:192 y:108 for better readability did a proper stack to hopefully fix readability completely
00:30:564 (3) - Move to x:351 y:74 for better readability same as ^
[Carry On]
01:07:364 (1) - I would map this instead of just putting a spinner. Since it's the last diff, I think it can only benefit from mapping those drums! ok, done =)

Thanks a lot for modding!!

Arduck

56 posts

Joined December 2015

Arduck 2017-03-20T02:51:49+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
[Arduck's Easy]
00:19:364 (1) - Consider extending this slider to the white tick on 00:20:164 (2) and adjust spacing. Remember this is Easy difficulty, so we need to keep the rhythm simple to follow for new players.
00:24:164 (2) - ^
00:25:764 (1) - ^
00:30:564 (1) - ^
There's a fine line between being simple and being plain boring, even for an Easy difficulty as this one. I don't see the point on making this change, since I do want new players to enjoy my map and understand basic rhythm & time-distance equality as well.
00:27:364 (3,1) - Consider increasing gap spacing between these two sliders for better aesthetics. Example to something like this.
Changed this part a bit, but not as suggested.
00:52:564 (3,1) - Watch your spacing here. Decrease to 1.00 for consistency.
Remapped this section and fixed the distancing mistake. Thanks for noticing ;3
NC Mod
For this difficulty, try new comboing once per 2 measures (once per every 2 big white ticks).
00:30:564 (1) - no NC
00:33:764 (1) - ^
00:41:764 (3) - NC
00:46:564 (1) - no NC
00:49:764 (1) - ^
00:52:964 (1) - ^
01:05:764 (1) - ^
Fixed NC's Thanks for the advice ^^

Thank you for your mod <3

Update

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Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-03-20T15:22:42+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
HydroCannon13's free #modhelp request
[Nowa's Hard]
00:44:964 (1,2) - 00:51:364 (1,2) - Me nitpicking here, but I would unstack the first set or stack the second set for consistency. Stacked the second one
01:08:764 (5,1) - Consider remapping this to 01:08:764 (5,1,2) -

Drum on the big white tick is the main reason. You don't want to have a slider end on it.

Ya see that i'm not really focusing on the drums. Sure i can pick a few here and there that i may priotirize (mostly the cymbals in kiai) but i focus way more on the vocals throughout the difficulty

Thank yoo

Upd

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Saoji

825 posts

Joined February 2013

Saoji 2018-01-31T20:07:54+00:00

Hello.

[Nowa's Hard]

00:27:364 (1,2,3) - Spacing is visually uneven because we can see followpoints between those 00:27:364 (1,2) - but not for them 00:27:964 (2,3) - so try to space (3) by one grid
00:28:964 (1,2,3) - ^
01:15:764 (2,3,4) - flow isn't too great here what about something like this: https://puu.sh/zdNZL/70f1a93740.png

[Carry On]

00:33:764 (1) - Would flow better if you ctrl+j
01:01:364 (1) - I think a straight slider might look better cause it would recall 01:02:364 (3) - and hence your pattern would have a better balance. If anything you can curve this one 01:02:764 (4) - instead.
Just a suggestion, but it's be cool to add a few triples in your kiai to give some emphasis. would sound pretty cool here for example (01:12:864 - 01:19:264 - )

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2018-01-31T22:05:02+00:00

Yales wrote:
Hello.

[Carry On]
00:33:764 (1) - Would flow better if you ctrl+j ok
01:01:364 (1) - I think a straight slider might look better cause it would recall 01:02:364 (3) - and hence your pattern would have a better balance. If anything you can curve this one 01:02:764 (4) - instead. did not fix as suggested, however tried smth else to fix the problem
Just a suggestion, but it's be cool to add a few triples in your kiai to give some emphasis. would sound pretty cool here for example (01:12:864 - 01:19:264 - ) they dont really fit to the music though :/

Thanks for your mod!

Kaitjuh

856 posts

Joined December 2012

Kaitjuh 2018-02-25T13:03:35+00:00

from queue

really not much to point out except for some general unused files

General

unused osb file "Strange Talk - Young Hearts (HydroCannon13) [.osb". might be a backup though idk xd
other unused files include:
storyboard\lyrics\lyrics14.png
storyboard\lyrics\lyrics15.png
storyboard\background\Thumbs.db
storyboard\effects\Thumbs.db
storyboard\lyrics\Thumbs.db
Thumbs do pretty much nothing for the storyboard afaik and you should probably doublecheck the two lyric files just in case.
Nowa's Hard is missing the additional "arduck_gr" tag

Carry On

really love the use of undermap in the first section. Really brings out the calmness <3
01:21:364 (5,6) - the stack here kinda kills emphasis of the two vocal sounds imo. 01:16:564 (5,6) - works a lot better bc of the single vocal sound on 01:16:564 (5) - , but on these two 01:21:364 (5,6) - there are two vocal sounds so using movement would work a lot better with the emphasis.

Normal

01:16:564 (5,6,1,2,3) - might be a bit too harsh rhythmically. Maybe simplify 01:16:564 (5,6) - into a slider instead?

Arduck's Easy

00:27:364 (3,1) - seems a bit close even though they're not overlapping. Kinda creates a visual discrepancy with the other distances between objects you normally have like 00:30:564 (2) - . Since it's pretty much the only one where the visual gap is this tight, it stands out.

Great map and great song choice. Get some bn's xd

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2018-02-26T00:21:40+00:00

Kaitjuh wrote:
from queue

really not much to point out except for some general unused files

General
unused osb file "Strange Talk - Young Hearts (HydroCannon13) [.osb". might be a backup though idk xd
other unused files include:
storyboard\lyrics\lyrics14.png
storyboard\lyrics\lyrics15.png
storyboard\background\Thumbs.db
storyboard\effects\Thumbs.db
storyboard\lyrics\Thumbs.db
Thumbs do pretty much nothing for the storyboard afaik and you should probably doublecheck the two lyric files just in case. all the unused files removed, and yeah the unused lyrics were used at one point but then taken out, and i never actually removed them from the map
Nowa's Hard is missing the additional "arduck_gr" tag fixed
Carry On
really love the use of undermap in the first section. Really brings out the calmness <3 thanks! <3
01:21:364 (5,6) - the stack here kinda kills emphasis of the two vocal sounds imo. 01:16:564 (5,6) - works a lot better bc of the single vocal sound on 01:16:564 (5) - , but on these two 01:21:364 (5,6) - there are two vocal sounds so using movement would work a lot better with the emphasis. good idea, edited this part quite a bit to incorporate
Normal
01:16:564 (5,6,1,2,3) - might be a bit too harsh rhythmically. Maybe simplify 01:16:564 (5,6) - into a slider instead? idk i think its easy enough to follow since the double circles are far enough away from each other, and its one the most intense sounds of the map so i mapped it as such
Great map and great song choice. Get some bn's xd

Thanks a ton for modding, and for catching those file errors

Arduck

56 posts

Joined December 2015

Arduck 2018-03-01T12:36:34+00:00

Kaitjuh wrote:
Arduck's Easy
00:27:364 (3,1) - seems a bit close even though they're not overlapping. Kinda creates a visual discrepancy with the other distances between objects you normally have like 00:30:564 (2) - . Since it's pretty much the only one where the visual gap is this tight, it stands out.

Distance Snap is being used throughout the entire map. Even if this slider was a circular one blanketing the previous repeat slider, the difference between their distances would only be a few pixels. Object's placement as it is now poses no gameplay issue or any visual discrepancy that needs to be fixed.

Thank you for your mod <3

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Neta 2018-04-07T06:29:46+00:00

hi~ from my queue

[Arduck's Easy]

00:19:364 (1,2) - 00:25:764 (1,2) - i think just make them reverse sliders like 00:20:964 (2) - will more fit on this part. following vocal background better
00:54:564 (1) - how about add note 00:54:564 - here and start spinner from 00:54:964 - or somewhere. skipping 00:54:564 - this strong sound with spinner is sad also players can feel note + spinner like slider
01:13:764 (1,4) - overlapping little bit if you care

[Carry On]

00:23:964 - i think you should add note here you're following vocal previous and following background from 00:24:164 - but it's pretty unnatural without note there since there's vocal sound also there's note in this part 00:36:164 (3,4,1,2,3) -
00:55:564 (5,3) - stacking them will make map more clean

nothing much! nice mapsets gl

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Vespirit 2018-04-08T18:51:27+00:00

Neta wrote:
hi~ from my queue

[Carry On]
00:23:964 - i think you should add note here you're following vocal previous and following background from 00:24:164 - but it's pretty unnatural without note there since there's vocal sound also there's note in this part 00:36:164 (3,4,1,2,3) -
00:55:564 (5,3) - stacking them will make map more clean
nothing much! nice mapsets gl

Fixed everything on my diff, thanks for modding! =)

Arduck

56 posts

Joined December 2015

Arduck 2018-04-13T00:35:49+00:00

Neta wrote:
hi~ from my queue

[Arduck's Easy]
00:19:364 (1,2) - 00:25:764 (1,2) - i think just make them reverse sliders like 00:20:964 (2) - will more fit on this part. following vocal background better
These objects follow the bassline though, not the vocals.
00:54:564 (1) - how about add note 00:54:564 - here and start spinner from 00:54:964 - or somewhere. skipping 00:54:564 - this strong sound with spinner is sad also players can feel note + spinner like slider
I'm sorry that you found my object placement "sad" but let me clarify the logic behind them.
Spinners, especially in lower difficulties, are commonly being used in the endings of sections right before a break. And that's what I did here as well.
Using a spinner with a length of 1 beat (2 in this case because of the double bpm setting) wasn't a mindless ignorance of a strong beat as you mentioned, rather a simplification of the rhythm that was being followed on the previous part, which was strenuous. Taking advantage of the "blowing wind" sound effect to release the tension that was built and giving enough time for the player to realise that there's an incoming spinner that needs to be clicked and then spun, was my first priority.
I get the circle+spinner/slider feeling you described, but keep in mind that this kind of object placement is mostly being used in higher difficulties that tend to be of songs with higher bpm as well. Not to mention that spinners tend to start in blue ticks after this kind of object usage.
Lastly, by following the suggested timing for the placement of the spinner would make the object follow the vocals, which again, was not what I was following with the previous objects.
01:13:764 (1,4) - overlapping little bit if you care
Good catch, but since it doesn't pose any actual issue on reading the following/previous objects, I see no reason to change this part.
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