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Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought [OsuMania]

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KaySon_old_1
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KaySon_old_1
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 8:48:11 PM

Artist: Mastermind(xi+nora2r)
Title: Dreadnought
Source: BMS
Tags: xi nora2r magic full space
BPM: 192
Filesize: 5274kb
Play Time: 05:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Space Legion - 4Key (4.58 stars, 3947 notes)
Download: Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I'd be happy if this got ranked

TEST PLAYERS
Zero Calamity / Jakads / Piggy / gamecontrol / Starry- / gusto -_- / Asrielly / Alternater / Papyrus / -Kamikaze- / Eterna / stupud kid321 / Quick Draw / Zephyrdyne / Wh1teh / defluxit / jepetski / zenpaifangirl / Tem / Adularescence / Hinpoppo / aitor98 / jole / Tori- / OroMaster / Hikatteru desu / Panshow / _Asriel / Gosy777 / Soul Evans

**ROUGH DRAFT**
:!: looking for mods atm :!: [I NEED SOMEONE TO DO HITSOUNDS FOR ME <3]
EDITS ~
changed the pattern of the 1/8th staircase to something less complained about or complicated
the quad LNs changed to 3
lowered speed for player to react for the SVs
better offset change( 7/28/16)
added some of mijkolsmith's moderations, thank you
changed OD to 8(7/29/16)
made the long SV easier to pre-determine(8/1/16)
added some of eternalie and Soul Evans' mods, thank you(8/11/16)
changed a few patterns, add LeinZ mini mod(8/20/16)
added own personal modderations(8/22/16)
added redball's and MrDorian's mods(8/27/16)
added some of amelia's mods(9/3/16)
added shirinisu's mods (9/3/16)
Last edited by KaySon_old_1 , edited 21 times in total.
mijkolsmith
297 posts
Joined April 2014
mijkolsmith
here you go boi
2016-07-29 17:42 Hollas: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1039958 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought]
2016-07-29 17:42 mijkolsmith: oboi
2016-07-29 17:42 mijkolsmith: O BOI
2016-07-29 17:43 Hollas: you think its the short one
2016-07-29 17:43 Hollas: GET FUCKED!
2016-07-29 17:46 mijkolsmith: when
2016-07-29 17:46 mijkolsmith: did you become good in mapping
2016-07-29 17:46 mijkolsmith: holy fuck
2016-07-29 17:46 mijkolsmith: compared to your maps few months ago this is so good
2016-07-29 17:46 mijkolsmith: also remove that minijack a bit back
2016-07-29 17:48 Hollas: kek
2016-07-29 17:48 mijkolsmith: 03:44:438 (224438|1) - 03:41:938 (221938|1) - these 2 parts are pretty inconsistent my dude
2016-07-29 17:49 mijkolsmith: 03:01:469 (181469|0) - suggest mapping the 1/4 synth sounds here
2016-07-29 17:49 mijkolsmith: 02:21:469 (141469|0) - wut
2016-07-29 17:49 mijkolsmith: this should be 1/8 trills
2016-07-29 17:49 mijkolsmith: 02:30:531 (150531|2) - what
2016-07-29 17:50 mijkolsmith: 02:50:609 (170609|2) -
2016-07-29 17:50 mijkolsmith: 02:57:875 (177875|0) - 1/8
2016-07-29 17:51 mijkolsmith: 00:11:782 (11782|0) - missing note also use that 1234321 pattern less my dude
2016-07-29 17:51 Hollas: post on forum plox? :^)
2016-07-29 17:52 mijkolsmith: ill post the chatlog i guess
2016-07-29 17:52 mijkolsmith: i never try to mod but it always turns out like this
2016-07-29 17:52 Hollas: yeah
2016-07-29 17:52 Hollas: but you actually like this map kappa
2016-07-29 17:52 mijkolsmith: 00:50:375 (50375|0) - this part is 1/8
2016-07-29 17:53 mijkolsmith: i like the map because of 01:16:000 (76000|1,76000|0,76078|2,76156|3) -
2016-07-29 17:53 mijkolsmith: those pattern types with the slider are really cool
2016-07-29 17:53 mijkolsmith: and unusual
2016-07-29 17:53 Hollas: should i add a trill there or have the notes 1/8th
2016-07-29 17:53 Hollas: yeah no one does that shit
2016-07-29 17:53 mijkolsmith: there is one burst of 1/8 from there
2016-07-29 17:54 mijkolsmith: i wouldnt make 1/8 trills if its this longh
2016-07-29 17:54 mijkolsmith: 02:21:469 (141469|0) - like here its fine
2016-07-29 17:54 mijkolsmith: its only 4 notes
2016-07-29 17:54 mijkolsmith: 00:50:375 (50375|0) - here its harder i guess just make it a 1234
2016-07-29 17:55 mijkolsmith: http://puu.sh/qiJgP/7effdb69d0.jpg
2016-07-29 17:56 Hollas: ahh i just put 3
2016-07-29 17:56 Hollas: cause its a continuous sound
2016-07-29 17:56 mijkolsmith: there's 4
2016-07-29 17:56 Hollas: http://puu.sh/qiJjh/9107deada1.jpg
2016-07-29 17:57 mijkolsmith: ew no
2016-07-29 17:57 mijkolsmith: that isn't correct my dude
2016-07-29 17:57 mijkolsmith: what i did is neither:
2016-07-29 17:57 mijkolsmith: its 1/6
2016-07-29 17:58 Hollas: oh i didnt do it in 1/6th
2016-07-29 17:58 mijkolsmith: http://puu.sh/qiJrJ/44aab50a7b.jpg
2016-07-29 17:58 Hollas: i just change the snap divisor last second
2016-07-29 17:58 mijkolsmith: should be like this
2016-07-29 17:58 mijkolsmith: well you can change the pattern of course
2016-07-29 17:58 Hollas: oh
2016-07-29 17:59 mijkolsmith: 00:57:720 (57720|1) - there's a cool sound here you might wanna map
2016-07-29 17:59 mijkolsmith: 01:06:938 (66938|1) - piano gone?
2016-07-29 17:59 mijkolsmith: 01:11:469 (71469|1) - 1/8
2016-07-29 18:00 mijkolsmith: 01:24:125 (84125|1) - piano gone?
2016-07-29 18:00 mijkolsmith: 01:25:063 (85063|3) - the timing in this part is really weird and off most of the time lol
2016-07-29 18:00 mijkolsmith: 02:12:563 (132563|0) - this piano starts where the slider does
2016-07-29 18:01 mijkolsmith: 02:14:438 (134438|2) - chart the 1/4's after this
2016-07-29 18:01 mijkolsmith: also maybe a triple fits better
2016-07-29 18:01 mijkolsmith: 00:56:938 (56938|1) - not sure about this considering consistency
2016-07-29 18:01 mijkolsmith: 02:33:396 (153396|1,153500|1) - ew ew ew
2016-07-29 18:02 Hollas: i added this
2016-07-29 18:02 Hollas: http://puu.sh/qiJE1/1831c32619.jpg
2016-07-29 18:02 mijkolsmith: 02:34:125 (154125|1) - another quad which im not sure about, but the worst part about it is the unmapped piano right after: maybe a slider will fit
2016-07-29 18:02 mijkolsmith: ya sure
2016-07-29 18:03 mijkolsmith: ok but im rather bored with the rest of the map
2016-07-29 18:03 mijkolsmith: it just gets denser or something
2016-07-29 18:03 mijkolsmith: 04:47:875 (287875|2,287875|3,287927|1,287979|2,288031|3) - worst timing yet
2016-07-29 18:03 Hollas: yeah i was thinking about making it harder
2016-07-29 18:04 mijkolsmith: 04:51:781 (291781|2) - another missing 1/4
2016-07-29 18:04 mijkolsmith: 04:59:126 (299126|2) - mayube a double after this note on 1/2
2016-07-29 18:04 mijkolsmith: 04:59:438 (299438|1) - this should just be 1/4...
Fubukicat
970 posts
Joined February 2012
Fubukicat
Hi there, hope this can help abit

dadon
Collumn = 1/2/3/4
[Space Legion]
00:41:001 (41001|3,41079|2,41157|3,41235|2) - Ctrl+H this part of the pattern to make it less right hand focused and still as catchy imo
00:45:689 (45689|3) - move to 2 , this LN sounds lower in pitch tham this one : 00:45:063 (45063|2) -
00:49:439 (49439|0) - how about move to 4 ? this jack is okay tho up to you
01:01:626 (61626|3) - i'd suggest moving this one to 3 to avoid repetitive of the 4th collumn
01:02:876 (62876|3,62954|2,63032|1,63032|0) - Ctrl+H ?
01:33:397 (93397|0,93501|0) - thoose sounds like not following a really strong sound , remove ?
02:24:126 (144126|0,144282|1) - Ctrl+J for pitch
03:05:845 (185845|0) - move to 2 ?
03:22:719 (202719|2) - I suggest this : [url=osu.ppy.sh/ss/5750735]Dadon[/url]
03:28:031 (208031|3,208031|1,208031|2,208031|0) - I think the quad should be here : 03:28:188 (208188|1,208188|0) - this one is more loud imo
04:08:032 (248032|0) - move to 2

Good Luck :3 *star*
this song is gud aye
Soul Evans
Elite Mapper
425 posts
Joined June 2014
Soul Evans
Alright, hope you like my suggestions
Mod
  • 00:03:814 (3814|0) - Move this to 3
    00:03:970 (3970|3) - Move this to 1 to keep better flow of the incoming jacks + for consistancy with the second jack because of this 00:06:000 (6000|1,6156|1,6156|3,6313|0,6391|0) -
    00:38:852 (38852|1,38891|0,38930|2,38969|3,39008|1,39047|0,39086|2,39125|3,39164|1,39203|0,39242|2,39281|3,39320|1,39359|0,39398|2,39438|3) - I suggest making these like this :
    Imo, the point is to make the map more creative and fun, and these might actually help in doing so.
    00:41:001 (41001|3,41079|2,41157|3,41235|2) - Ctrl H, reversing this would increase flow in the streams and would help
    01:14:125 (74125|1) - I think removing this note would be better
    01:53:345 (113345|3,113422|2,113501|3,113579|2,113657|0,113735|1,113814|2,113891|3,113969|0,114048|1) - Maybe make it like this? :
    03:21:939 - Don't make the slowjam SV like that, speed it up just a tad or add something similar to pyakura's SV instead, because this SV is not predictable or countable by players and always catch them off guard
    03:26:626 - Add note in 2 and 4?
Good luck!
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

Eternalie wrote:

Hi there, hope this can help abit

dadon
Collumn = 1/2/3/4
[Space Legion]
00:41:001 (41001|3,41079|2,41157|3,41235|2) - Ctrl+H this part of the pattern to make it less right hand focused and still as catchy imo
00:45:689 (45689|3) - move to 2 , this LN sounds lower in pitch tham this one : 00:45:063 (45063|2) -
00:49:439 (49439|0) - how about move to 4 ? this jack is okay tho up to you
01:01:626 (61626|3) - i'd suggest moving this one to 3 to avoid repetitive of the 4th collumn
01:02:876 (62876|3,62954|2,63032|1,63032|0) - Ctrl+H ?
01:33:397 (93397|0,93501|0) - thoose sounds like not following a really strong sound , remove ?
02:24:126 (144126|0,144282|1) - Ctrl+J for pitch
03:05:845 (185845|0) - move to 2 ?
03:22:719 (202719|2) - I suggest this : [url=osu.ppy.sh/ss/5750735]Dadon[/url]
03:28:031 (208031|3,208031|1,208031|2,208031|0) - I think the quad should be here : 03:28:188 (208188|1,208188|0) - this one is more loud imo
04:08:032 (248032|0) - move to 2

Good Luck :3 *star*
this song is gud aye
i took almost all suggestions except the jack one, always good with a little help, thank you *gives kudosu*
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

Soul Evans wrote:

Alright, hope you like my suggestions
Mod
  • 00:03:814 (3814|0) - Move this to 3
    00:03:970 (3970|3) - Move this to 1 to keep better flow of the incoming jacks + for consistancy with the second jack because of this 00:06:000 (6000|1,6156|1,6156|3,6313|0,6391|0) -
    00:38:852 (38852|1,38891|0,38930|2,38969|3,39008|1,39047|0,39086|2,39125|3,39164|1,39203|0,39242|2,39281|3,39320|1,39359|0,39398|2,39438|3) - I suggest making these like this :
    Imo, the point is to make the map more creative and fun, and these might actually help in doing so.
    00:41:001 (41001|3,41079|2,41157|3,41235|2) - Ctrl H, reversing this would increase flow in the streams and would help
    01:14:125 (74125|1) - I think removing this note would be better
    01:53:345 (113345|3,113422|2,113501|3,113579|2,113657|0,113735|1,113814|2,113891|3,113969|0,114048|1) - Maybe make it like this? :
    03:21:939 - Don't make the slowjam SV like that, speed it up just a tad or add something similar to pyakura's SV instead, because this SV is not predictable or countable by players and always catch them off guard
    03:26:626 - Add note in 2 and 4?
Good luck!
did most of the changes, for the sv pattern, i changed it all up. found a better pattern for it so its not so bland
*gives kudosu*
RedBall
132 posts
Joined September 2015
RedBall
Hello~ I'm from RRM mania modding queue!


Here's NM you requested!

+These are just my suggestions! Accepting these or not is totally depended on you. :P

Column
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

General
- The current BG's size is 1365 x 768. But, 1366 x 768 is more accurate one. I resized it for you -> http://puu.sh/qMOgc/2ae2cd0d36.jpg
- Why is the red line at offset -561? I think it should be at 1939 (Don't forget to re-snap all notes. Also, apply this after applying my mod!) (But, I'm also not sure about this since I'm not good at timing, kek. Please receive more mods related to it)
- Add kiai time. I suggest 02:14:439 ~ 02:34:439, 02:44:439 ~ 02:54:751, 02:59:439 ~ 03:21:939, 03:32:564 ~ 03:41:626, 03:41:939 ~ 03:51:939, 03:52:564 ~ 04:01:626, 04:11:939 ~ 04:22:251 (before editing the red line)
- A preview point is not set. I suggest 02:44:126 or 03:41:626 (before editing the red line)

- How about adding hitsounds?

Space Legion
- 00:01:939 - add one note on column 4 in order to emphasize the big sound
- 01:02:329 - add one note (There is sound that you've followed)
- 01:17:798 - add one note on column 4 (as you did at 01:16:547 (76547|3) )
- 01:17:953 (77953|3) - move to column 1 AND 01:18:032 - add one note on column 4 (sound is at 01:18:032 )
- 01:18:970 AND 01:19:048 - add one note (^)
- 01:19:282 - add double AND 01:19:360 - add one note (^)
- 01:20:845 - add one note (emphaszie the sound that you emphasized at 01:20:063 (80063|2,80063|0,80141|1,80219|3,80298|0,80375|2,80375|3,80531|0)
- 01:24:751 - add one note on column 2 (follow the drum sound in order to keep the mood)
- 01:25:142 - add one note on column 3 AND 01:25:220 (85220|2) - move to column 2 AND 01:25:297 (85297|1) - delete AND 01:25:298 - add one note on column 3 AND 01:25:376 - add one LN which ends at 01:25:532 on column 2 (following the sound)
- 01:31:938 (91938|2,91938|3,92094|0,92094|1,92250|3,92250|2,92406|0,92406|1) - How about change the pattern to a pattern that contains jacks? Such as http://puu.sh/qMKff/8ccbdb68bf.jpg this
- 01:55:375 (115375|1,115375|0) - delete one of them (in order to emphasize other bigger drums) You did it at 01:56:625 (116625|1)
- 01:59:126 - add one note on column 4 (emphasize that sound and follow the mood)
- 02:03:188 (123188|0,123189|3,123267|1,123345|2,123422|1,123500|0,123500|2,123578|3,123656|2,123734|1,123813|3,123813|0,123891|1,123969|2,124047|3,124125|1,124125|2) - I love this one~!
- 02:03:970 - add one note on column 1 (following the sound and mood)
- 02:33:188 (153188|0,153240|1,153292|3,153344|2,153397|0,153449|1,153501|2,153553|3,153605|1,153657|0,153709|2,153760|3,153814|0,153866|1,153918|2,153970|3,154022|0,154074|1,154126|3) - I think the part is 1/4. Is it intended?
- 02:39:360 - add one note (there's sound + follow mood)
- 02:41:548 - add one note (^)
- 02:41:703 (161703|2,161782|3) - delete (there's no elec sound)
- 02:41:625 (161625|0) - move to column 4 AND change it to LN which ends at 02:41:782 as you did before if you applied the previous suggestion
- 02:45:376 - double (following the sound)
- 02:46:625 (166625|3) - change it to a short note (the sound is quite short, compared to that in 02:45:688 (165688|3,166000|0,166313|0) )
- 02:47:876 - add one note on column 1 (drum sound)
- 02:53:188 (173188|1,173240|3,173292|2,173344|1,173396|0,173448|2,173500|3,173552|0,173604|1,173656|2,173708|3,173760|1,173813|0,173865|3,173917|2,173969|1,174021|0,174125|2,174125|1) - I think this part is also 1/4. (I'll not mention this one later on)
- 03:09:438 (189438|1,189438|0,189438|3) - I think these notes should be ended at 03:09:751 according to the sound
- 03:09:751 - add one note on column 3 if you applied the previous suggestion
- 03:10:376 - add one note on column 2 if you applied the previous suggestion
- 03:10:532 (190532|1) - change it to a short note AND 03:10:610 - add one note on column 3 (regarding 03:10:845 ~ 03:11:470 this part)
- 03:11:938 (191938|3,192016|1,192094|2,192172|3) - How about deleting these AND 03:11:939 - add one note on column 4 AND 03:12:095 - add one note on column 4 ? (following the sound)
- 03:13:188 (193188|0,193189|3,193267|2,193267|1,193345|0,193345|3,193423|2,193423|1,193501|0,193501|3,193579|1,193579|2,193657|3,193657|0,193734|2,193814|0,193814|1) - How about this? -> https://puu.sh/qMMd6/75bcb0ef95.jpg (just a suggestion, lol)
- 03:27:564 - add one note on column 1 (strong drum sound)
- 03:28:501 - add one note on column 4 (^)
- 03:29:751 - add one note on column 4 (drum)
- 03:32:406 (212406|0) - move to column 3 (in order to avoid 03:32:250 (212250|0,212406|0,212563|0,212719|0,212875|0) - this one)
- 03:32:484 (212484|3) - delete (mood of 03:32:251 ~ 03:32:564 and 03:32:564 ~ is quite different)
- 03:35:375 (215375|1) - double (drum)
- Look at these 03:42:719 (222719|3,222720|1,222720|0,222797|2,222876|3,222954|2,223032|0,223110|1) and 03:45:219 (225219|0,225219|3,225219|1,225297|2,225375|0,225375|1,225454|2,225532|1,225532|3,225610|0) and 03:47:719 (227719|1,227797|2,227875|0,227875|1,227875|3,227953|2,228031|0,228031|1,228110|2) All of them are different, even though they have similar sounds and are in a same section. I suggest you to emphasize similarly. For example, double on 03:42:720 and 03:43:032 AND triple on 03:42:876
---+ I think you got some points to edit. Apply them in that section (kiai section). But, you don't need to make 'all' of them same. (Of course, If you don't want to apply them, do not apply them.)
- 04:02:798 - add one note (similarly to 04:03:500 (243500|3,243500|1,243578|2,243656|0,243734|2,243813|3,243813|1,243891|0,243969|1,244047|2,244125|1,244125|3,244203|0) this part)
- 04:06:860 - add one note on column 1 (^)
- 04:29:750 (269750|3) , 04:29:906 (269906|0) , 04:30:063 (270063|3) - double?

Nice song~ xD I hope it's helpful to you...

Good luck on your map~!
MrDorian
448 posts
Joined April 2012
MrDorian
Hi
moddo
00:06:704 - missing note?
SV--> you can add 0,5x sv at 00:39:439 and 1x sv at 00:39:673, nice effect
02:11:938 (131938|0,131938|1) - what are these for? same sound like in 00:39:438 (39438|3) - (you can add ^ sv)
02:15:531 (135531|2) - missing note??
02:17:953 (137953|3,137953|0) - what are these for?
02:18:031 (138031|1) - missing note?
02:33:188 (153188|0,153240|1,153292|3,153344|2,153397|0,153449|1,153501|2,153553|3,153605|1,153657|0,153709|2,153760|3,153814|0,153866|1,153918|2,153970|3,154022|0,154074|1,154126|3) - - isn't this 1/4th?
02:44:204 (164204|3) - to 3 and 02:44:282 (164282|0) - to 2 for raising sound
02:53:240 (173240|3,173292|2,173344|1,173396|0,173448|2,173500|3,173552|0,173604|1,173656|2,173708|3,173760|1,173813|0,173865|3,173917|2,173969|1,174021|0) - 1/4th again?
03:16:834 - and 03:16:886 - (1/6th) missing notes
03:40:688 (220688|3,220740|2,220792|0,220844|1,220896|2,220948|3,221000|1,221052|0,221105|3,221157|2,221209|1,221261|0,221314|2,221366|3,221418|0,221470|1,221522|3,221574|2) - again 1/4th?
03:42:876 (222876|3,223032|0) - missing notes?
[03:55:531 (235531|0,235609|1) - ^^
04:09:439 (249439|0,249517|1,249595|2,249751|0,249829|1,249907|2,250064|0,250142|2,250220|3,250376|0,250454|2,250532|3,250689|3,250767|1,250845|0,251001|3,251079|1,251157|0,251314|3,251392|2,251469|1) - check snaps http://puu.sh/qPqC5/5900a9897b.jpg
04:20:740 (260740|1,260792|2,260896|3,260948|2,261000|1,261052|2,261104|3,261156|0,261208|1,261260|2,261417|0) - 1/4
05:01:938 (301938|0,301938|3) - maybe end at 05:06:954
GL~~
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

RedBall wrote:

Hello~ I'm from RRM mania modding queue!


Here's NM you requested!

+These are just my suggestions! Accepting these or not is totally depended on you. :P

Column
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

General
- The current BG's size is 1365 x 768. But, 1366 x 768 is more accurate one. I resized it for you -> http://puu.sh/qMOgc/2ae2cd0d36.jpg
- Why is the red line at offset -561? I think it should be at 1939 (Don't forget to re-snap all notes. Also, apply this after applying my mod!) (But, I'm also not sure about this since I'm not good at timing, kek. Please receive more mods related to it)
- Add kiai time. I suggest 02:14:439 ~ 02:34:439, 02:44:439 ~ 02:54:751, 02:59:439 ~ 03:21:939, 03:32:564 ~ 03:41:626, 03:41:939 ~ 03:51:939, 03:52:564 ~ 04:01:626, 04:11:939 ~ 04:22:251 (before editing the red line)
- A preview point is not set. I suggest 02:44:126 or 03:41:626 (before editing the red line)

- How about adding hitsounds?

Space Legion
- 00:01:939 - add one note on column 4 in order to emphasize the big sound
- 01:02:329 - add one note (There is sound that you've followed)
- 01:17:798 - add one note on column 4 (as you did at 01:16:547 (76547|3) )
- 01:17:953 (77953|3) - move to column 1 AND 01:18:032 - add one note on column 4 (sound is at 01:18:032 )
- 01:18:970 AND 01:19:048 - add one note (^)
- 01:19:282 - add double AND 01:19:360 - add one note (^)
- 01:20:845 - add one note (emphaszie the sound that you emphasized at 01:20:063 (80063|2,80063|0,80141|1,80219|3,80298|0,80375|2,80375|3,80531|0)
- 01:24:751 - add one note on column 2 (follow the drum sound in order to keep the mood)
- 01:25:142 - add one note on column 3 AND 01:25:220 (85220|2) - move to column 2 AND 01:25:297 (85297|1) - delete AND 01:25:298 - add one note on column 3 AND 01:25:376 - add one LN which ends at 01:25:532 on column 2 (following the sound)
- 01:31:938 (91938|2,91938|3,92094|0,92094|1,92250|3,92250|2,92406|0,92406|1) - How about change the pattern to a pattern that contains jacks? Such as http://puu.sh/qMKff/8ccbdb68bf.jpg this
- 01:55:375 (115375|1,115375|0) - delete one of them (in order to emphasize other bigger drums) You did it at 01:56:625 (116625|1)
- 01:59:126 - add one note on column 4 (emphasize that sound and follow the mood)
- 02:03:188 (123188|0,123189|3,123267|1,123345|2,123422|1,123500|0,123500|2,123578|3,123656|2,123734|1,123813|3,123813|0,123891|1,123969|2,124047|3,124125|1,124125|2) - I love this one~!
- 02:03:970 - add one note on column 1 (following the sound and mood)
- 02:33:188 (153188|0,153240|1,153292|3,153344|2,153397|0,153449|1,153501|2,153553|3,153605|1,153657|0,153709|2,153760|3,153814|0,153866|1,153918|2,153970|3,154022|0,154074|1,154126|3) - I think the part is 1/4. Is it intended?
- 02:39:360 - add one note (there's sound + follow mood)
- 02:41:548 - add one note (^)
- 02:41:703 (161703|2,161782|3) - delete (there's no elec sound)
- 02:41:625 (161625|0) - move to column 4 AND change it to LN which ends at 02:41:782 as you did before if you applied the previous suggestion
- 02:45:376 - double (following the sound)
- 02:46:625 (166625|3) - change it to a short note (the sound is quite short, compared to that in 02:45:688 (165688|3,166000|0,166313|0) )
- 02:47:876 - add one note on column 1 (drum sound)
- 02:53:188 (173188|1,173240|3,173292|2,173344|1,173396|0,173448|2,173500|3,173552|0,173604|1,173656|2,173708|3,173760|1,173813|0,173865|3,173917|2,173969|1,174021|0,174125|2,174125|1) - I think this part is also 1/4. (I'll not mention this one later on)
- 03:09:438 (189438|1,189438|0,189438|3) - I think these notes should be ended at 03:09:751 according to the sound
- 03:09:751 - add one note on column 3 if you applied the previous suggestion
- 03:10:376 - add one note on column 2 if you applied the previous suggestion
- 03:10:532 (190532|1) - change it to a short note AND 03:10:610 - add one note on column 3 (regarding 03:10:845 ~ 03:11:470 this part)
- 03:11:938 (191938|3,192016|1,192094|2,192172|3) - How about deleting these AND 03:11:939 - add one note on column 4 AND 03:12:095 - add one note on column 4 ? (following the sound)
- 03:13:188 (193188|0,193189|3,193267|2,193267|1,193345|0,193345|3,193423|2,193423|1,193501|0,193501|3,193579|1,193579|2,193657|3,193657|0,193734|2,193814|0,193814|1) - How about this? -> https://puu.sh/qMMd6/75bcb0ef95.jpg (just a suggestion, lol)
- 03:27:564 - add one note on column 1 (strong drum sound)
- 03:28:501 - add one note on column 4 (^)
- 03:29:751 - add one note on column 4 (drum)
- 03:32:406 (212406|0) - move to column 3 (in order to avoid 03:32:250 (212250|0,212406|0,212563|0,212719|0,212875|0) - this one)
- 03:32:484 (212484|3) - delete (mood of 03:32:251 ~ 03:32:564 and 03:32:564 ~ is quite different)
- 03:35:375 (215375|1) - double (drum)
- Look at these 03:42:719 (222719|3,222720|1,222720|0,222797|2,222876|3,222954|2,223032|0,223110|1) and 03:45:219 (225219|0,225219|3,225219|1,225297|2,225375|0,225375|1,225454|2,225532|1,225532|3,225610|0) and 03:47:719 (227719|1,227797|2,227875|0,227875|1,227875|3,227953|2,228031|0,228031|1,228110|2) All of them are different, even though they have similar sounds and are in a same section. I suggest you to emphasize similarly. For example, double on 03:42:720 and 03:43:032 AND triple on 03:42:876
---+ I think you got some points to edit. Apply them in that section (kiai section). But, you don't need to make 'all' of them same. (Of course, If you don't want to apply them, do not apply them.)
- 04:02:798 - add one note (similarly to 04:03:500 (243500|3,243500|1,243578|2,243656|0,243734|2,243813|3,243813|1,243891|0,243969|1,244047|2,244125|1,244125|3,244203|0) this part)
- 04:06:860 - add one note on column 1 (^)
- 04:29:750 (269750|3) , 04:29:906 (269906|0) , 04:30:063 (270063|3) - double?

Nice song~ xD I hope it's helpful to you...

Good luck on your map~!
applied 99% of the mods, they all made sense in terms of sound detections so thank you ( the 1%, the 1/6th part was intentional) *gives kudosu*
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

MrDorian wrote:

Hi
moddo
00:06:704 - missing note?
SV--> you can add 0,5x sv at 00:39:439 and 1x sv at 00:39:673, nice effect
02:11:938 (131938|0,131938|1) - what are these for? same sound like in 00:39:438 (39438|3) - (you can add ^ sv)
02:15:531 (135531|2) - missing note??
02:17:953 (137953|3,137953|0) - what are these for?
02:18:031 (138031|1) - missing note?
02:33:188 (153188|0,153240|1,153292|3,153344|2,153397|0,153449|1,153501|2,153553|3,153605|1,153657|0,153709|2,153760|3,153814|0,153866|1,153918|2,153970|3,154022|0,154074|1,154126|3) - - isn't this 1/4th?
02:44:204 (164204|3) - to 3 and 02:44:282 (164282|0) - to 2 for raising sound
02:53:240 (173240|3,173292|2,173344|1,173396|0,173448|2,173500|3,173552|0,173604|1,173656|2,173708|3,173760|1,173813|0,173865|3,173917|2,173969|1,174021|0) - 1/4th again?
03:16:834 - and 03:16:886 - (1/6th) missing notes
03:40:688 (220688|3,220740|2,220792|0,220844|1,220896|2,220948|3,221000|1,221052|0,221105|3,221157|2,221209|1,221261|0,221314|2,221366|3,221418|0,221470|1,221522|3,221574|2) - again 1/4th?
03:42:876 (222876|3,223032|0) - missing notes?
[03:55:531 (235531|0,235609|1) - ^^
04:09:439 (249439|0,249517|1,249595|2,249751|0,249829|1,249907|2,250064|0,250142|2,250220|3,250376|0,250454|2,250532|3,250689|3,250767|1,250845|0,251001|3,251079|1,251157|0,251314|3,251392|2,251469|1) - check snaps http://puu.sh/qPqC5/5900a9897b.jpg
04:20:740 (260740|1,260792|2,260896|3,260948|2,261000|1,261052|2,261104|3,261156|0,261208|1,261260|2,261417|0) - 1/4
05:01:938 (301938|0,301938|3) - maybe end at 05:06:954
GL~~
ok according to red's and your mod to the 1/6th part, i changed it to 1/4th with doubles, found it best suitable like that (100% all mods as well)
*gives kudosu*
Rachel
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Joined May 2015
Rachel
The fact that there is already a ranked chart on this just makes me feel…. ugh….
I’ll proceed anyway

is it just me or your patterning is rather rigid

OD to 8.5, HP to 8.7

keep in mind that these are all suggestions so feel free to reject anything that doesn't float your boat

Columns : 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

xi

00:01:939 - I would really prefer you to have doubles on the whites and not the reds. Most people use doubles as a way of keeping timing, but at such a weird spot, it is very hard to. Plus you have that in the later section anyway so it’s consistency too
00:12:094 (12094|0) - this is very uncomfortable after the shield. Move it to 3?
00:12:250 (12250|2,12250|1,12250|0,12406|2) - at the same time you can rearrange these to make it less boring
00:18:032 (18032|0,18084|1,18135|2) - sounds like 1/8 to me, if you’re gonna change that then you probably have to adjust the mini jumpjacks too because they are not fun to hit at all
I mean, this suggestion is probably not the best because it goes against your layering but it still represents the 1/8s (mind you that it can be approximated with a trill)
00:20:063 (20063|3,20063|1,20063|0) - stream sounds like it starts from here, not 00:20:219 (20219|2) - here, so you may want to adjust it
00:22:095 - missing double?

man this is getting a bit repetitive…

00:25:376 - why do you not use a triple here? You used it 00:15:375 (15375|1,15375|0,15375|3) - here and 00:16:313 (16313|2,16313|3,16313|1) - here. It goes against your layering too so
00:26:469 (26469|1,26469|0,26547|1,26547|0,26625|3,26625|2,26703|3,26703|2,26781|1,26781|0,26859|1,26859|0) - I’m not sure if this is the best pattern to use but I’ll let it slide for now
00:27:875 (27875|0,27875|3,27875|1,27953|1,27953|0,28031|3,28083|2,28135|1,28188|3,28188|2,28188|0) - this one again, but I’ll use a similar suggestion but same effect
00:29:438 (29438|0,29438|3,29438|2,29594|1,29594|2,29750|0,29750|3,29750|1,29906|2,29906|1,30063|3,30063|2,30063|0,30219|2,30219|1,30375|1,30375|0,30375|3,30531|2,30531|1) - is that seriously all you can do? your already heavy layering really makes it hard to bring out specific parts of the song, like 00:30:063 (30063|0,30063|3,30063|2) - this, triples are so prevalent in this chart that it is hard to bring out this sound. I will not be one to tell you to “change your layering”, but you can probably consider something about it
00:30:688 (30688|0,30688|3,30766|2,30844|0,30922|2,31000|3,31000|0,31078|1,31156|3,31234|1,31313|0,31313|3,31391|2,31469|0,31547|2,31625|1,31625|0,31703|2,31703|3,31781|1,31781|0,31859|3,31859|2,31939|3) - this section is generally rough, suggestion?
00:38:814 (38814|3,38853|1,38892|0,38931|2,38970|3,39009|1,39048|0,39087|2,39126|3,39165|1,39204|0,39243|2,39282|3,39321|1,39360|0,39399|2) - I’m not a fan of these vibros, maybe make them inward instead of outward will be better
00:40:688 (40688|3,40767|1,40844|3,40923|1,41000|3,41079|1,41156|3,41235|1,41313|3,41392|1,41469|3,41547|2) - I think for this you can probably use something like this
00:50:219 (50219|0,50272|1,50324|2,50376|3,50428|0,50480|1,50532|2,50584|3) - did you map this wrongly? some notes sound like ghosts
01:06:001 (66001|1,66078|2,66156|1) - ctrl h? it plays better that way
01:07:875 (67875|1,68031|1,68188|1,68344|1,68500|1,68657|1,68969|1,69125|1,69281|1,69438|1,69594|1,69750|1) - can you like avoid this it’s very hard to nail when doing the stream
01:10:609 (70609|3,70766|3,70922|3,71078|3,71234|3,71391|3,71548|3,71704|3,71860|3) - why do you like anchors so much
01:14:125 (74125|0) - move to 2 so that it’s slightly more comfortable

I’m shit at LNs…

01:43:656 (103656|0,103656|3) - why a double? I don’t hear anything strong
01:53:814 - if you wanna use 1/6 it starts here
01:58:656 (118656|2,118734|3,118813|2,118891|3,118969|2) - you can try this, it’s better than a minitrill
02:02:250 (122250|3,122406|3,122563|3) - rough, 02:02:407 (122407|3,122485|2,122564|3,122642|2) - ctrl j
Generally 3+ note anchors aren’t comfortable to play but I’ll avoid some for my sanity’s sake and they might be “ok” to play so keep that in mind
02:11:391 (131391|3,131430|2,131469|0,131508|1,131547|3,131586|2,131625|0,131664|1,131703|3,131742|2,131781|0,131820|1,131859|3,131898|2) - yeah this was what I wanted earlier, it’s more comfortable to play after all

Oh god time for the kiai

02:14:751 - your layering is inconsistent, 02:15:375 (135375|3,135375|1,135375|2) - why a triple here but 02:17:875 (137875|2,137875|1,137953|0,137953|3) - a mini jumptrill here?
I will focus on pattern choice for this section since I’m not sure what are you doing with your layering
02:19:125 (139125|2,139281|2,139438|2,139594|2,139750|2,139906|2,140063|2) - mmmmm yeah this is cute
02:21:938 (141938|1,141938|3,141938|0,142016|2,142094|1,142172|0,142250|2,142250|3,142251|1,142328|0,142406|1,142484|2,142563|1,142563|0,142563|3) - I can come up with a more sensible pattern for that drum sound on the red line
If you apply that then 02:22:797 (142797|2,142797|0,142797|3,143031|0,143031|1,143031|3,143266|0,143266|2,143266|3,143500|3,143500|1,143500|0,143734|0,143734|3,143734|2) - ctrl h everything
02:24:828 (144828|2,144906|3,144984|2,145063|3,145141|2) - you like one-handed trills too, sigh.
my suggestion
Just to point out something important
I would like to point out that you should listen to the track at 50% for 02:25:689 - notice how your notes are a tad too early than the actual sound. I can still hear a tiny bit of sound on where the single notes are, but considering the synth is a bigger sound, that should be prioritized and not the tiny ones. This goes the same for 02:15:689 - 02:18:189 - 02:20:689 - 02:45:689 - 03:43:189 - 03:45:689 - 03:48:189 - 03:53:189 -
03:33:189 - this is the only one that I found was correct, it also makes me wonder why you made this different from all the others. Try to use this to gauge where the notes are placed
Of course they represent the single notes beside the 4 LNs in each section

If you have anymore questions about this hit me up and I’ll explain
02:27:250 (147250|0,147250|3,147250|2) - this sound doesn’t really warrant a triple unlike 02:27:406 (147406|0,147406|3,147406|2) -
02:27:719 (147719|1,147719|2,147719|0,147797|3,147875|2,147953|1,148031|0,148031|3,148031|2,148188|2,148188|0,148188|1) - you used 02:47:250 (167250|2,167250|1,167328|3,167406|0,167406|2,167406|1,167484|3,167563|2,167641|1,167719|3,167719|2,167719|0,167797|1,167875|2,167876|0,167953|3,168031|0,168031|1,168109|2,168109|3,168188|3,168188|1,168188|0) - here, so you should keep it consistent here
If you apply that change 02:28:396 (148396|0,148396|3,148396|1) - this too so it’s not repetitive
02:32:406 (152406|1) - double here
02:34:126 (154126|3) - triple

I won’t touch too much on the LN sections since I’m not skilled enough
Clocking in at 2 hours now…

02:39:439 - if you are able to squeeze a triple in here while keeping this relatively fine to play I would appreciate it
02:40:689 - here too
02:41:939 - ^
from 02:41:939 - to 02:43:814 - all I can say is that your notes are wrongly snapped to the sound but I’ll leave it to you to snap them because I’m kinda losing steam now
02:50:609 (170609|2) - that’s an interesting pattern, don’t really see it often but i can’t seem to catch the LN after that, you might want to shift it somewhere else where it’s not a hit-or-miss situation here
jumptrill ends 02:53:189 - here, you seem to have missed that section
02:54:048 - missing note?
02:56:234 (176234|2,176313|1,176391|2,176469|1,176547|2,176625|1,176703|2,176781|1,176859|2,176938|1,177016|2,177094|0,177172|2,177250|0,177328|2,177406|0,177484|3,177563|0,177641|3,177719|0,177797|3) - I mean, it’s ok I guess, just very hard to time well (look at Kamui)
02:57:875 (177875|0,177875|1,177928|3,177928|2,177980|1,177980|0,178032|2,178032|3,178084|1,178084|0,178136|3,178136|2,178189|0,178189|1) - it’s 1/8, not 1/6. Try using a roll
02:58:656 (178656|2) - remove
02:58:814 - you can use a jumptrill here (remove 02:59:439 (179439|1) - too btw if you wanna use the jumptrill)
what really irks me is that you’re not that consistent in your patterning, like from 02:59:517 - to 03:09:439 - compared to 03:10:532 - to 03:16:939 - why should they be different? If I should pick one I would have to choose the second one because it makes more musical sense
03:13:188 (193188|0,193189|3,193267|2,193267|1,193345|0,193345|3,193423|2,193501|1,193501|0,193579|3,193579|2,193657|0,193657|1) - maybe you can try to compare it to 03:03:188 (183188|3,183188|2,183266|1,183266|0,183344|3,183344|2,183422|0,183422|1,183500|2,183500|3,183578|0,183579|1) - they should be similar. Although, for that kind of sound it shouldn’t warrant a jumptrill. I would use jumptrills only for consecutive percussion sounds, not for synths
03:14:125 (194125|2,194203|3,194281|2) - have a jumptrill here
03:15:689 (195689|1,195689|3,196001|0,196001|2) - you should end all of them on white lines
03:16:834 (196834|3) - if you can approximate this well and still get a good hit on the LN then you can keep it, otherwise you should reorder that 1/6 section
Remove the kiai in that entire section btw, it’s not needed
03:29:282 - why no quad? it sounds exactly the same as the ones below

My computer is getting fried so I might not be able to do playability check…
I’ll make briefer mods since I’m getting tired as hell…

04:12:720 - it really looks like you ctrl+v this section, please don’t do that, it kills creativity and makes the chart repetitive and boring
04:14:439 - can you keep your patterning consistent? it is irking me a ton
04:17:406 (257406|3,257406|0) - remove at 1
04:20:063 (260063|0,260063|2,260141|3,260141|1,260219|2,260219|0,260297|3,260297|1,260375|2,260375|0,260453|3,260453|1,260531|2,260531|0,260609|3,260609|1) - this is the hardest jumptrill pattern there is for 4K and you shouldn’t make them too long as they can go out of hand very easily. The best ones to use are [12][34] or [14][23]
04:21:548 - is that a missing note?
04:46:469 (286469|3,286547|3,286626|3) - not recommended for playability, a normal jumptrill should suffice
04:47:875 (287875|0,287875|2,287875|3,287927|1,287979|2,288031|3,288084|1,288188|3,288188|0,288188|2) - I already made a point on this, just look at the suggestions above and try to make something similar. I don’t want to make another suggestion for fear I might go crazy after this
04:49:985 - missing
04:50:220 - I prefer a jumptrill here
04:55:375 (295375|2,295375|0,295453|3,295453|1,295531|2,295531|0,295609|1,295609|3) - again, not really recommended. Try using [14][23] here

ok enough

To sum up
I hate to say this but I’m afraid that I had expected more from you when making this. Your layering and patterning is inconsistent and you don’t pay enough attention to tinier sounds. I’m betting that you didn’t even adjust the speed throughout the making of this chart since I hear 1/8s, but you put 1/6s. So many sounds were given too much layering, and many too little. You should emphasize on percussion more than the synths because they are concrete sounds, where synths are just color. Another thing is the sheer number of anchors, just to let you know that 3+ anchors are in no way easy to hit at all and require a lot of effort, which affects playability. Most mappers will avoid this unless there is an effect that they want to bring up, but it’s usually for special cases and should not be all the time (see: Grief and Malice)

Do take note on consistency too. If you make a pattern in some section, you should make a similar pattern to a section that sounds exactly the same. Don’t try to make new patterns too many times as it will trip players up

I clocked 3 hours…

Don’t kds me if I didn’t help at all, and if you have anymore questions feel free to hit me up

Good luck~
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

[ -Ryuki- ] wrote:

The fact that there is already a ranked chart on this just makes me feel…. ugh….
I’ll proceed anyway

is it just me or your patterning is rather rigid

OD to 8.5, HP to 8.7

keep in mind that these are all suggestions so feel free to reject anything that doesn't float your boat

Columns : 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

xi

00:01:939 - I would really prefer you to have doubles on the whites and not the reds. Most people use doubles as a way of keeping timing, but at such a weird spot, it is very hard to. Plus you have that in the later section anyway so it’s consistency too
00:12:094 (12094|0) - this is very uncomfortable after the shield. Move it to 3?
00:12:250 (12250|2,12250|1,12250|0,12406|2) - at the same time you can rearrange these to make it less boring
00:18:032 (18032|0,18084|1,18135|2) - sounds like 1/8 to me, if you’re gonna change that then you probably have to adjust the mini jumpjacks too because they are not fun to hit at all
I mean, this suggestion is probably not the best because it goes against your layering but it still represents the 1/8s (mind you that it can be approximated with a trill)
00:20:063 (20063|3,20063|1,20063|0) - stream sounds like it starts from here, not 00:20:219 (20219|2) - here, so you may want to adjust it
00:22:095 - missing double?

man this is getting a bit repetitive…

00:25:376 - why do you not use a triple here? You used it 00:15:375 (15375|1,15375|0,15375|3) - here and 00:16:313 (16313|2,16313|3,16313|1) - here. It goes against your layering too so
00:26:469 (26469|1,26469|0,26547|1,26547|0,26625|3,26625|2,26703|3,26703|2,26781|1,26781|0,26859|1,26859|0) - I’m not sure if this is the best pattern to use but I’ll let it slide for now
00:27:875 (27875|0,27875|3,27875|1,27953|1,27953|0,28031|3,28083|2,28135|1,28188|3,28188|2,28188|0) - this one again, but I’ll use a similar suggestion but same effect
00:29:438 (29438|0,29438|3,29438|2,29594|1,29594|2,29750|0,29750|3,29750|1,29906|2,29906|1,30063|3,30063|2,30063|0,30219|2,30219|1,30375|1,30375|0,30375|3,30531|2,30531|1) - is that seriously all you can do? your already heavy layering really makes it hard to bring out specific parts of the song, like 00:30:063 (30063|0,30063|3,30063|2) - this, triples are so prevalent in this chart that it is hard to bring out this sound. I will not be one to tell you to “change your layering”, but you can probably consider something about it
00:30:688 (30688|0,30688|3,30766|2,30844|0,30922|2,31000|3,31000|0,31078|1,31156|3,31234|1,31313|0,31313|3,31391|2,31469|0,31547|2,31625|1,31625|0,31703|2,31703|3,31781|1,31781|0,31859|3,31859|2,31939|3) - this section is generally rough, suggestion?
00:38:814 (38814|3,38853|1,38892|0,38931|2,38970|3,39009|1,39048|0,39087|2,39126|3,39165|1,39204|0,39243|2,39282|3,39321|1,39360|0,39399|2) - I’m not a fan of these vibros, maybe make them inward instead of outward will be better
00:40:688 (40688|3,40767|1,40844|3,40923|1,41000|3,41079|1,41156|3,41235|1,41313|3,41392|1,41469|3,41547|2) - I think for this you can probably use something like this
00:50:219 (50219|0,50272|1,50324|2,50376|3,50428|0,50480|1,50532|2,50584|3) - did you map this wrongly? some notes sound like ghosts
01:06:001 (66001|1,66078|2,66156|1) - ctrl h? it plays better that way
01:07:875 (67875|1,68031|1,68188|1,68344|1,68500|1,68657|1,68969|1,69125|1,69281|1,69438|1,69594|1,69750|1) - can you like avoid this it’s very hard to nail when doing the stream
01:10:609 (70609|3,70766|3,70922|3,71078|3,71234|3,71391|3,71548|3,71704|3,71860|3) - why do you like anchors so much
01:14:125 (74125|0) - move to 2 so that it’s slightly more comfortable

I’m shit at LNs…

01:43:656 (103656|0,103656|3) - why a double? I don’t hear anything strong
01:53:814 - if you wanna use 1/6 it starts here
01:58:656 (118656|2,118734|3,118813|2,118891|3,118969|2) - you can try this, it’s better than a minitrill
02:02:250 (122250|3,122406|3,122563|3) - rough, 02:02:407 (122407|3,122485|2,122564|3,122642|2) - ctrl j
Generally 3+ note anchors aren’t comfortable to play but I’ll avoid some for my sanity’s sake and they might be “ok” to play so keep that in mind
02:11:391 (131391|3,131430|2,131469|0,131508|1,131547|3,131586|2,131625|0,131664|1,131703|3,131742|2,131781|0,131820|1,131859|3,131898|2) - yeah this was what I wanted earlier, it’s more comfortable to play after all

Oh god time for the kiai

02:14:751 - your layering is inconsistent, 02:15:375 (135375|3,135375|1,135375|2) - why a triple here but 02:17:875 (137875|2,137875|1,137953|0,137953|3) - a mini jumptrill here?
I will focus on pattern choice for this section since I’m not sure what are you doing with your layering
02:19:125 (139125|2,139281|2,139438|2,139594|2,139750|2,139906|2,140063|2) - mmmmm yeah this is cute
02:21:938 (141938|1,141938|3,141938|0,142016|2,142094|1,142172|0,142250|2,142250|3,142251|1,142328|0,142406|1,142484|2,142563|1,142563|0,142563|3) - I can come up with a more sensible pattern for that drum sound on the red line
If you apply that then 02:22:797 (142797|2,142797|0,142797|3,143031|0,143031|1,143031|3,143266|0,143266|2,143266|3,143500|3,143500|1,143500|0,143734|0,143734|3,143734|2) - ctrl h everything
02:24:828 (144828|2,144906|3,144984|2,145063|3,145141|2) - you like one-handed trills too, sigh.
my suggestion
Just to point out something important
I would like to point out that you should listen to the track at 50% for 02:25:689 - notice how your notes are a tad too early than the actual sound. I can still hear a tiny bit of sound on where the single notes are, but considering the synth is a bigger sound, that should be prioritized and not the tiny ones. This goes the same for 02:15:689 - 02:18:189 - 02:20:689 - 02:45:689 - 03:43:189 - 03:45:689 - 03:48:189 - 03:53:189 -
03:33:189 - this is the only one that I found was correct, it also makes me wonder why you made this different from all the others. Try to use this to gauge where the notes are placed
Of course they represent the single notes beside the 4 LNs in each section

If you have anymore questions about this hit me up and I’ll explain
02:27:250 (147250|0,147250|3,147250|2) - this sound doesn’t really warrant a triple unlike 02:27:406 (147406|0,147406|3,147406|2) -
02:27:719 (147719|1,147719|2,147719|0,147797|3,147875|2,147953|1,148031|0,148031|3,148031|2,148188|2,148188|0,148188|1) - you used 02:47:250 (167250|2,167250|1,167328|3,167406|0,167406|2,167406|1,167484|3,167563|2,167641|1,167719|3,167719|2,167719|0,167797|1,167875|2,167876|0,167953|3,168031|0,168031|1,168109|2,168109|3,168188|3,168188|1,168188|0) - here, so you should keep it consistent here
If you apply that change 02:28:396 (148396|0,148396|3,148396|1) - this too so it’s not repetitive
02:32:406 (152406|1) - double here
02:34:126 (154126|3) - triple

I won’t touch too much on the LN sections since I’m not skilled enough
Clocking in at 2 hours now…

02:39:439 - if you are able to squeeze a triple in here while keeping this relatively fine to play I would appreciate it
02:40:689 - here too
02:41:939 - ^
from 02:41:939 - to 02:43:814 - all I can say is that your notes are wrongly snapped to the sound but I’ll leave it to you to snap them because I’m kinda losing steam now
02:50:609 (170609|2) - that’s an interesting pattern, don’t really see it often but i can’t seem to catch the LN after that, you might want to shift it somewhere else where it’s not a hit-or-miss situation here
jumptrill ends 02:53:189 - here, you seem to have missed that section
02:54:048 - missing note?
02:56:234 (176234|2,176313|1,176391|2,176469|1,176547|2,176625|1,176703|2,176781|1,176859|2,176938|1,177016|2,177094|0,177172|2,177250|0,177328|2,177406|0,177484|3,177563|0,177641|3,177719|0,177797|3) - I mean, it’s ok I guess, just very hard to time well (look at Kamui)
02:57:875 (177875|0,177875|1,177928|3,177928|2,177980|1,177980|0,178032|2,178032|3,178084|1,178084|0,178136|3,178136|2,178189|0,178189|1) - it’s 1/8, not 1/6. Try using a roll
02:58:656 (178656|2) - remove
02:58:814 - you can use a jumptrill here (remove 02:59:439 (179439|1) - too btw if you wanna use the jumptrill)
what really irks me is that you’re not that consistent in your patterning, like from 02:59:517 - to 03:09:439 - compared to 03:10:532 - to 03:16:939 - why should they be different? If I should pick one I would have to choose the second one because it makes more musical sense
03:13:188 (193188|0,193189|3,193267|2,193267|1,193345|0,193345|3,193423|2,193501|1,193501|0,193579|3,193579|2,193657|0,193657|1) - maybe you can try to compare it to 03:03:188 (183188|3,183188|2,183266|1,183266|0,183344|3,183344|2,183422|0,183422|1,183500|2,183500|3,183578|0,183579|1) - they should be similar. Although, for that kind of sound it shouldn’t warrant a jumptrill. I would use jumptrills only for consecutive percussion sounds, not for synths
03:14:125 (194125|2,194203|3,194281|2) - have a jumptrill here
03:15:689 (195689|1,195689|3,196001|0,196001|2) - you should end all of them on white lines
03:16:834 (196834|3) - if you can approximate this well and still get a good hit on the LN then you can keep it, otherwise you should reorder that 1/6 section
Remove the kiai in that entire section btw, it’s not needed
03:29:282 - why no quad? it sounds exactly the same as the ones below

My computer is getting fried so I might not be able to do playability check…
I’ll make briefer mods since I’m getting tired as hell…

04:12:720 - it really looks like you ctrl+v this section, please don’t do that, it kills creativity and makes the chart repetitive and boring
04:14:439 - can you keep your patterning consistent? it is irking me a ton
04:17:406 (257406|3,257406|0) - remove at 1
04:20:063 (260063|0,260063|2,260141|3,260141|1,260219|2,260219|0,260297|3,260297|1,260375|2,260375|0,260453|3,260453|1,260531|2,260531|0,260609|3,260609|1) - this is the hardest jumptrill pattern there is for 4K and you shouldn’t make them too long as they can go out of hand very easily. The best ones to use are [12][34] or [14][23]
04:21:548 - is that a missing note?
04:46:469 (286469|3,286547|3,286626|3) - not recommended for playability, a normal jumptrill should suffice
04:47:875 (287875|0,287875|2,287875|3,287927|1,287979|2,288031|3,288084|1,288188|3,288188|0,288188|2) - I already made a point on this, just look at the suggestions above and try to make something similar. I don’t want to make another suggestion for fear I might go crazy after this
04:49:985 - missing
04:50:220 - I prefer a jumptrill here
04:55:375 (295375|2,295375|0,295453|3,295453|1,295531|2,295531|0,295609|1,295609|3) - again, not really recommended. Try using [14][23] here

ok enough

To sum up
I hate to say this but I’m afraid that I had expected more from you when making this. Your layering and patterning is inconsistent and you don’t pay enough attention to tinier sounds. I’m betting that you didn’t even adjust the speed throughout the making of this chart since I hear 1/8s, but you put 1/6s. So many sounds were given too much layering, and many too little. You should emphasize on percussion more than the synths because they are concrete sounds, where synths are just color. Another thing is the sheer number of anchors, just to let you know that 3+ anchors are in no way easy to hit at all and require a lot of effort, which affects playability. Most mappers will avoid this unless there is an effect that they want to bring up, but it’s usually for special cases and should not be all the time (see: Grief and Malice)

Do take note on consistency too. If you make a pattern in some section, you should make a similar pattern to a section that sounds exactly the same. Don’t try to make new patterns too many times as it will trip players up

I clocked 3 hours…

Don’t kds me if I didn’t help at all, and if you have anymore questions feel free to hit me up

Good luck~
i changed alot of stuff.... some stuff i kept for personal reasons for the map
Kites
64 posts
Joined September 2014
Kites
Hi. Have a mod.

http://puu.sh/qYjXF/0e988b3ba3.osr (testplay if you need it)

columns 0 | 1 | 2 | 3

00:06:860 - Add a note.
00:06:781 (6781|0,8813|3,8813|0,8891|2,8969|3,8969|1) - Consider making this a jack because it is consistent with the previous jacks.
00:21:704 (21704|2,21782|1,21860|0) - Move to column 1,2,3 because it follows the pitch of the music.
00:30:375 (30375|3,30375|1,30375|0,30531|2,30531|1) - There is 1/4 in this bit so consider putting in a trill (03->12->03).
00:36:547 (36547|0) - 00:38:813 (38813|3) - The pattern between these notes are generally uncomfortable/anti fun to play (you can keep this pattern if you want, just a lot of people don't really like playing this pattern).
00:46:626 - Map something for the sound here.
00:54:048 (54048|3,54126|2,54204|1,54282|0,54360|1) - Consider making this a trill because of the sound is similar to the one in this (00:40:688 (40688|3,40767|1,40844|3,40923|1,41000|3,41079|1,41156|3,41235|1,41313|3,41392|1,41469|3,41547|2) - ).
00:55:844 (55844|1,55844|2) - Consider extending to 00:56:157 (56157|0) - .
00:58:656 (58656|1,58656|2) - Consider extending to 00:58:970 (58970|2) - .
01:00:375 - Add notes to column 2 and/or 3 for the sound here.
01:03:813 (63813|0,63866|1,63918|2,63970|3,64021|2,64073|1) - Rearrange pattern to something like this
because it follows the pitch better.
01:10:063 (70063|3,70063|0,70063|2,70375|2,70375|3,70376|0) - These chords shouldn't be the same because they map the same sound at a different pitch.
01:54:281 (114281|0,114333|1,114385|2,114438|0,114438|3) - Rearrange pattern to something like this

because it follows the pitch better and puts more emphasis on 01:54:439 - .
02:03:970 (123970|0) - You can make this a 1/4 slider.
02:04:439 - Consider adding notes to column 0 and 3 because 02:04:439 - has more emphasis than 02:04:126 - .
02:09:047 (129047|3) - 02:11:313 (131313|0) - The pattern between these notes are generally uncomfortable/anti fun to play (you can keep this pattern if you want, just a lot of people don't really like playing this pattern).
02:21:470 (141470|0,141522|1,141574|2,141626|3,141626|0) - Invert these notes because it follows the pitch better
02:22:797 (142797|2,142797|0,142797|3,143031|0,143031|1,143031|3,143266|0,143266|2,143266|3,143500|3,143500|1,143500|0,143734|0,143734|3,143734|2) - You should use more varied chords because the music doesn't alternate between two sounds.
02:24:126 (144126|0,144281|1) - Switch the columns of these notes because it follows pitch better.
02:29:438 -, 02:30:688 - I feel like this section should be swapped with 02:30:688 - ,02:31:938 - Because the sliders here don't follow the pitch of the music.
03:09:906 (189906|3,189906|2,189906|0,190063|2,190063|3,190063|0) - I don't think there is significant enough of a change in the music to justify this pattern.
03:36:938 -, 03:38:189 - I feel like this section should be swapped with 03:38:189 - , 03:39:438 - Because the sliders here don't follow the pitch of the music.
03:53:110 (233110|0) - I'm not really sure what this is mapped to.
04:50:219 (290219|2,290219|1,290271|3,290323|2,290375|1,290427|0,290480|1,290531|3,290531|2) - Using revolving stairs for this pattern makes it harder and more awkward to play.

The mapping got better as the map progressed so it might be a good idea to look at the earlier parts of the map and remap some of the patterns.

Good luck with getting this ranked.
KaySon_old_1
Topic Starter
KaySon_old_1

Shirinisu wrote:

Hi. Have a mod.

http://puu.sh/qYjXF/0e988b3ba3.osr (testplay if you need it)

columns 0 | 1 | 2 | 3

00:06:860 - Add a note.
00:06:781 (6781|0,8813|3,8813|0,8891|2,8969|3,8969|1) - Consider making this a jack because it is consistent with the previous jacks.
00:21:704 (21704|2,21782|1,21860|0) - Move to column 1,2,3 because it follows the pitch of the music.
00:30:375 (30375|3,30375|1,30375|0,30531|2,30531|1) - There is 1/4 in this bit so consider putting in a trill (03->12->03).
00:36:547 (36547|0) - 00:38:813 (38813|3) - The pattern between these notes are generally uncomfortable/anti fun to play (you can keep this pattern if you want, just a lot of people don't really like playing this pattern).
00:46:626 - Map something for the sound here.
00:54:048 (54048|3,54126|2,54204|1,54282|0,54360|1) - Consider making this a trill because of the sound is similar to the one in this (00:40:688 (40688|3,40767|1,40844|3,40923|1,41000|3,41079|1,41156|3,41235|1,41313|3,41392|1,41469|3,41547|2) - ).
00:55:844 (55844|1,55844|2) - Consider extending to 00:56:157 (56157|0) - .
00:58:656 (58656|1,58656|2) - Consider extending to 00:58:970 (58970|2) - .
01:00:375 - Add notes to column 2 and/or 3 for the sound here.
01:03:813 (63813|0,63866|1,63918|2,63970|3,64021|2,64073|1) - Rearrange pattern to something like this
because it follows the pitch better.
01:10:063 (70063|3,70063|0,70063|2,70375|2,70375|3,70376|0) - These chords shouldn't be the same because they map the same sound at a different pitch.
01:54:281 (114281|0,114333|1,114385|2,114438|0,114438|3) - Rearrange pattern to something like this

because it follows the pitch better and puts more emphasis on 01:54:439 - .
02:03:970 (123970|0) - You can make this a 1/4 slider.
02:04:439 - Consider adding notes to column 0 and 3 because 02:04:439 - has more emphasis than 02:04:126 - .
02:09:047 (129047|3) - 02:11:313 (131313|0) - The pattern between these notes are generally uncomfortable/anti fun to play (you can keep this pattern if you want, just a lot of people don't really like playing this pattern).
02:21:470 (141470|0,141522|1,141574|2,141626|3,141626|0) - Invert these notes because it follows the pitch better
02:22:797 (142797|2,142797|0,142797|3,143031|0,143031|1,143031|3,143266|0,143266|2,143266|3,143500|3,143500|1,143500|0,143734|0,143734|3,143734|2) - You should use more varied chords because the music doesn't alternate between two sounds.
02:24:126 (144126|0,144281|1) - Switch the columns of these notes because it follows pitch better.
02:29:438 -, 02:30:688 - I feel like this section should be swapped with 02:30:688 - ,02:31:938 - Because the sliders here don't follow the pitch of the music.
03:09:906 (189906|3,189906|2,189906|0,190063|2,190063|3,190063|0) - I don't think there is significant enough of a change in the music to justify this pattern.
03:36:938 -, 03:38:189 - I feel like this section should be swapped with 03:38:189 - , 03:39:438 - Because the sliders here don't follow the pitch of the music.
03:53:110 (233110|0) - I'm not really sure what this is mapped to.
04:50:219 (290219|2,290219|1,290271|3,290323|2,290375|1,290427|0,290480|1,290531|3,290531|2) - Using revolving stairs for this pattern makes it harder and more awkward to play.

The mapping got better as the map progressed so it might be a good idea to look at the earlier parts of the map and remap some of the patterns.

Good luck with getting this ranked.

thanks for helping out a bit
SakaSak
16 posts
Joined September 2011
SakaSak
[Space Legion]
Hello! Some mods.

01:14:126 - Remove a note, And 01:14:439 - Add a note here.
what do you think about? 01:14:126 - This section should not be emphasized than 01:14:439 - I feel loud that section.
If you done that, then consider this part as well 04:01:626 -

02:24:204 - Add some notes here? I could feel same sounds with 02:23:735 -
If you done that, then consider this section too. 03:51:704 -

02:49:439 - Add a note here, I think It should be 3notes at least. for notes consitency with them 02:49:021 (169021|0,169021|1,169021|3,169229|0,169229|2,169229|3) -

03:56:939 (236939|0) - This LN's length should be cutted here 03:57:876 -
03:58:189 (238189|3) - Same reason with 03:59:126 -

04:52:563 (292563|3) - what do you think about? till 04:52:876 -
04:53:813 (293813|2) - same reason with above 04:54:126 -
04:55:064 (295064|1) - 04:56:314 (296314|0) -

Good luck ! already good map :)
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