1. Extra!! (5.58 stars, 1053 notes)
2. Psychopath!! (5.55 stars, 277 notes)

SPOILER

- jakomo73 (Extra diff)
- Neoskylove (Overall hitsounding *)
- Weriko (Extra diff)

Thanks to all, for supporting me!

jakomo73 wrote:

NM from my queue

Insane!!

SPOILER

00:02:769 (4) - Should place slightly higher up to have a better blanket with 3 (or could make the concave part of 3 less steep) fixed
00:04:826 (4) - Should make it blanket 5 a bit better imo fixed
00:09:798 (6) - Should be in the same pattern as 7 and 8 (too steep compared to them) it's not needed to fixed now, i'm mapping it

Got really nitpicky with this since it has only a bit of it mapped so far, idk if this helps at all lol

Extra!!

SPOILER

For an extra map, the HP drain should be around 9 at least None of the Extras in my Best PP have that much high drain or OD =) nowadays ppl doesn't like high drain, because jumps are usual pattern
OD should be around 9 as well imo ^
Offset is slightly too much, not quite the best with offsets and bpm but at 00:49:569 you can hear the drums before the hitsound at 50% speed I think so too. I'll ask about it for Elite mappers, if I can
00:09:798 (1) - Keep with the pattern 2 and 3 have, don't have it curve to the right when 2 and 3 curve to the left imo fixed it may glitch player's flow
00:34:655 (4) - Should place it further away, it's currently right under a note that had you do a mini stream before-hand ^
00:59:169 (1, 2) - Awkward blanket, should put 1 more-so into 2's "nook" yes, it's bit messy. changed blanket and jump aesthetic, but I dunno it worked
00:59:512 (2, 3) - Breaks flow, should have 3 in around 4's spot imo ^
01:25:226 - 01:26:169 - Miss a second of mapping, could add an inheriting point with a slower slider velocity and a few sliders to go along with her vocals imo okay, unnecessary break. added
01:26:598 - 01:27:626 - Another second missed, could map the guitar (I think lol), imo you should do map either this part or the previous one, cause that's too long for hp drain on an extra imo ^
01:39:284 (3, 4) - The hitsound here is off, not sure what the best action would be, maybe get rid of it from 4 altogether drum is bit noisy, changed to hi-hat
01:40:826 (3) - Should add an inheriting point before the end and change the volume/set so that you don't get the popping twice imo. There are more, but they're all around that area I don't think it is needed, cuz there's no hitsound but drum cover which is already included at music. it's just a characteristic of this song
01:47:512 - Feels empty, I know she is just breathing here, but maybe a circle added would help? added
02:24:884 (6, 7, 1) - Flow gets broken here due to 7, think it should be in the upper left quadrant fixed but changed to triplet
03:12:198 (1, 2) - Should be same pattern imo idk, but it's beatiful enuf breaking flow here is my intention

Hopefully that helps! If it wasn't at all, just PM me or write a reply on my queue and I'll try to go more in depth/nitpicky Really nicely mapped so far! Streams look really good. Good luck getting it ranked

Weriko wrote:

Irc mod

22:39 Weriko: ill mod your map :p
22:40 Weriko: but im still new to this so its your call
22:41 Lecoren: idc whether new or not cuz I'm new to mapping, too
22:41 Weriko: okay
22:41 Weriko: btw
22:41 Weriko: do you want irc mod?
22:41 Weriko: or forum?
22:42 Lecoren: anywhere would be fine
22:42 Lecoren: as you choose
22:42 Weriko: okay
22:42 Weriko: ill do it here :p
22:43 Weriko: 00:06:198 (5,6) -
22:43 Weriko: this feels a bit weird
22:43 Weriko: like overmapped
22:44 Lecoren: yea, It's bit weird everytime I play it :O
22:44 Weriko: but here is just perfect
22:44 Weriko: 00:09:798 (1,2) -
22:45 Weriko: i kinda understand what you tried to do here
22:45 Weriko: 00:57:455 (6) -
22:45 Lecoren: awh
22:45 Weriko: but i think it cuts the flow a bit
22:46 Weriko: i love those triplets :p
22:46 Lecoren: then moving 6 to upper would be better?
22:46 Lecoren:
22:46 Weriko: yeah probly
22:46 Weriko: or just remake that slider
22:47 Weriko: and use the same distance
22:47 Lecoren: trying =)
22:47 Weriko: 01:17:341 (2) -
22:47 Weriko: okay i dont really understand the slider velocity change here
22:48 Weriko: i think it doesnt fit at all
22:48 Lecoren: fixed
22:48 Lecoren: I'm sorry but can you continue it at forum? lol
22:49 Lecoren: with pasting irc would be fine
22:49 Weriko: oh
22:49 Weriko: sure
22:49 Lecoren: I need short off
22:49 Weriko: okay
22:49 Lecoren: sorry..
22:49 Weriko: np :p

All fixed from IRC!

ill continue the mod here :p

01:27:112 (7) - I think you should make a 1/2 slider here instead of 1/4 My heart still says "I want short-beat slider here!" and 1/2 slider is still weird tho
01:38:084 (2) - you should make like a .4 snap on this circle so the slider doesn't cover it fixed to fit with flow! but idk if it still has problem
01:39:284 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - hitsounds on this section are... the rhythm is right but I think you could change the sound yes, music's original band cover is bit messy. thought normal clap is not fit here, so changed it to soft-clap
02:24:026 (6) - same as before, a .4 snap may be good (apply this to all the circles you see like this, specially this one02:52:312 (1) - ) fixed + delayed all notes to back at stream
02:42:026 (1) - you could add some more triples on this kiai, it might fit added 1 more triple pattern, but long jumps on kiai is fine now

okay I think that's it for now :p

I wasn't able to play the map, so some of those things i told you may be wrong

but overall I think this can be a pretty good map :p good luck!

jossieP wrote:

#TimingHelp

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wow this is terrible

Bow Queue

1. Your current mapset is unrankable, please consider completing the set before asking for mods. So you can get an overall feel for what the spread should be. (imo making difficulties out of order can really mess with your spread.)

1. Why have the HP so low at 5? I think something like 7 would work better.
2. 00:01:741 - and 00:02:598 - Tight sliders like these don't look very nice. They look like you used grid snap to make them. Moreover, 00:01:741 - could be blanketing 00:01:569 - and 00:02:084 -
3. 00:04:312 - and 00:04:998 - This overlap is pretty big, and also ugly to look at. Consider a different pattern here.
4. 00:09:798 - / 00:09:969 - / 00:10:312 - This type of overlap is also pretty bad. Also the fact that 00:09:798 - and 00:09:969 - are overlapping, will give the player the thought that 00:09:969 - and 00:10:312 - are about the same beat apart as the first two notes mentioned.
5. Also, going from the above statement, the rhythm at 00:09:798 - is not correct. It should just be one slider from 00:09:798 - to 00:10:141 -
6. From 00:11:684 - to 00:12:198 - this rhythm is also incorrect. The guitar strum is being held out, so a slider from 00:11:684 - to 00:12:198 - would work out best, rather than the weird 1/4 jumps you have here.
   
7. Rather than modding the whole difficulty, I would like to give more general points instead. That's why I gave some rather direct points first to help you.
8. A main thing in standard mapping is structure and how that structure flows. A structure can be solid, but does it flow well? That is a question you need to ask yourself.
9. Aside from structure you need to worry about aesthetics. Like making clean jumps or sliders. An example of something that is not aesthetically pleasing is the type of slider you have at 00:26:255 - which appears a bunch of times throughout the map. Having tight curves does not make it a good slider, rather it just looks cramped and weird.
10. Another thing you need to worry about is overlaps. Especially in the higher or lower difficulties. Some overlaps are okay. Such as what you did at 00:01:569 - and 00:02:084 - but other overlaps like at 00:04:312 - and 00:04:998 - those just look plain messy. And in higher difficulties, misplaced overlaps or underlaps will make the map hard to read. But in lower difficulties, people will misjudge the stack or overlap/underlap and click too early or late based upon what it is.
11. After thinking about structure, flow, aesthetics, and overlaps/underlaps you need to also worry about jumps themselves. Since in the two difficulties that you have, that is what you seem to rely on. Many of the jumps that you have are misplaced. (Like the one I pointed out at 00:11:855 - ) Think: Does the song call for this here? If you were to make a visual display of the song, would there be enough energy here for a jump? Or is it just because I wanted a jump? Those are other things you need to think about when placing your notes. For example, a section like 00:18:541 - to 00:22:141 - would work great for some jumps. If they are done correctly, like in nice spaces like squares, triangles, diamonds, etc. Try to keep your shapes basic, so they're readable.
12. Test your maps. An important thing about mapping is that you should be able to test your own maps. If not, then how will you be able to selfmod? Because there are a good amount of mistakes that you could probably see in play, rather than just looking at your map in editor. Being able to play your map will help you figure out better flow and structure for the map itself. Since you will actually be able to feel what is wrong with the map. (There still will be other things you might not notice, but that kinda comes with making a map. ;w; )
13. With testing your own maps, you can also see if there are any rhythmic errors within it. Like, "Would this work better as a circle? Or a slider?" or, "Would this work better as a triplet or reverse slider?" You will be able to tell which beats should be clickable, because through play, you will be able to see the density of the map better. (Such as if it is too dense or too empty.)
14. Overall, keep trying. I know that this may seem long, and maybe even annoying to read, but I hope that this helps you. Because it really is nice to see someone's progression of mapping over time. And don't worry, mapping isn't for everyone, nor does everyone improve at the same rate. So just because your style is the same today, does not mean that you won't improve tomorrow, or the next day. Heck, you might think of something really creative one day, and it'll be great!

Ayyri wrote:

Hello~

NM from Bow Queue

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you!

[General]

1. Your current mapset is unrankable, please consider completing the set before asking for mods. So you can get an overall feel for what the spread should be. (imo making difficulties out of order can really mess with your spread.)

[Extra!!]

1. Why have the HP so low at 5? I think something like 7 would work better.
2. 00:01:741 - and 00:02:598 - Tight sliders like these don't look very nice. They look like you used grid snap to make them. Moreover, 00:01:741 - could be blanketing 00:01:569 - and 00:02:084 -
3. 00:04:312 - and 00:04:998 - This overlap is pretty big, and also ugly to look at. Consider a different pattern here.
4. 00:09:798 - / 00:09:969 - / 00:10:312 - This type of overlap is also pretty bad. Also the fact that 00:09:798 - and 00:09:969 - are overlapping, will give the player the thought that 00:09:969 - and 00:10:312 - are about the same beat apart as the first two notes mentioned.
5. Also, going from the above statement, the rhythm at 00:09:798 - is not correct. It should just be one slider from 00:09:798 - to 00:10:141 -
6. From 00:11:684 - to 00:12:198 - this rhythm is also incorrect. The guitar strum is being held out, so a slider from 00:11:684 - to 00:12:198 - would work out best, rather than the weird 1/4 jumps you have here.
   
7. Rather than modding the whole difficulty, I would like to give more general points instead. That's why I gave some rather direct points first to help you.
8. A main thing in standard mapping is structure and how that structure flows. A structure can be solid, but does it flow well? That is a question you need to ask yourself.
9. Aside from structure you need to worry about aesthetics. Like making clean jumps or sliders. An example of something that is not aesthetically pleasing is the type of slider you have at 00:26:255 - which appears a bunch of times throughout the map. Having tight curves does not make it a good slider, rather it just looks cramped and weird.
10. Another thing you need to worry about is overlaps. Especially in the higher or lower difficulties. Some overlaps are okay. Such as what you did at 00:01:569 - and 00:02:084 - but other overlaps like at 00:04:312 - and 00:04:998 - those just look plain messy. And in higher difficulties, misplaced overlaps or underlaps will make the map hard to read. But in lower difficulties, people will misjudge the stack or overlap/underlap and click too early or late based upon what it is.
11. After thinking about structure, flow, aesthetics, and overlaps/underlaps you need to also worry about jumps themselves. Since in the two difficulties that you have, that is what you seem to rely on. Many of the jumps that you have are misplaced. (Like the one I pointed out at 00:11:855 - ) Think: Does the song call for this here? If you were to make a visual display of the song, would there be enough energy here for a jump? Or is it just because I wanted a jump? Those are other things you need to think about when placing your notes. For example, a section like 00:18:541 - to 00:22:141 - would work great for some jumps. If they are done correctly, like in nice spaces like squares, triangles, diamonds, etc. Try to keep your shapes basic, so they're readable.
12. Test your maps. An important thing about mapping is that you should be able to test your own maps. If not, then how will you be able to selfmod? Because there are a good amount of mistakes that you could probably see in play, rather than just looking at your map in editor. Being able to play your map will help you figure out better flow and structure for the map itself. Since you will actually be able to feel what is wrong with the map. (There still will be other things you might not notice, but that kinda comes with making a map. ;w; )
13. With testing your own maps, you can also see if there are any rhythmic errors within it. Like, "Would this work better as a circle? Or a slider?" or, "Would this work better as a triplet or reverse slider?" You will be able to tell which beats should be clickable, because through play, you will be able to see the density of the map better. (Such as if it is too dense or too empty.)
14. Overall, keep trying. I know that this may seem long, and maybe even annoying to read, but I hope that this helps you. Because it really is nice to see someone's progression of mapping over time. And don't worry, mapping isn't for everyone, nor does everyone improve at the same rate. So just because your style is the same today, does not mean that you won't improve tomorrow, or the next day. Heck, you might think of something really creative one day, and it'll be great!

All in all, good luck. ;w;7