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HXJ_Crafter

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-02T14:22:42+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[notice]4K:1|2|3|4

[GRAVITY]
[list]
[*]00:23:476 - Starting from here, I am actually against the 1/4 jumpstreams since sounds on them actually have different volume.00:23:476 - to 00:24:095 - Sounds even haven't faded in. 00:27:188 - And sounds fade away from here without any more. So you may take a look at INFINITE, and give a try to follow its logic. which is just yours in the first part of this song.
[*]00:43:270 - I am against 1/4 jumpstreams here too, with the same reason as 00:23:476 -. Remake your patterns from here just like 00:33:373 - things starting from this point.
Just considering these two points. Others seems fine for me :3

xlwan

39 posts

Joined January 2014

xlwan 2018-01-04T10:52:46+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[notice]4K:1|2|3|4

[xl's EXHAUST]
00:13:580 (13580|0,13889|0,14198|0,14507|0,14817|0) - Rearrange this part to avoid this long stack. change some pattern
00:16:363 (16363|0,16363|1,16518|2,16672|3,16672|1,16982|0,16982|1,17136|2,17291|1,17291|3) - Can you rearrange them to make one pattern of them at least being a bit different with the other?
00:23:476 (23476|3,23786|3,24095|3,24404|3,24714|3,25023|3) - And a long stack here. Rearrange your pattern for balance.
00:25:951 (25951|3,26260|3,26569|3,26878|3,27188|3) - Same as above. Please rearrange them.
00:42:033 - In this part your note use is even harder than INFINITE. I would suggest some nerf like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9909932 cymbal,drum three note.so no change
00:45:435 (45435|3,45590|3,45744|3) - To avoid this, you may rearrange like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9909934 no change
00:52:549 (52549|2,52626|3,52703|2,52781|3,52858|2,52935|3,53013|2,53090|3,53167|2) - This pattern is definitely unbalanced, and I suggest you to spread the notes to all columns. You may take INFINITE as a reference to remake your patterns here.
fixed
00:56:956 (56956|2) - The melodic sound goes quite weak here, maybe delete this note? no
00:57:961 (57961|3,57961|1,57961|2) - Better nerf to a double just like 00:55:332 (55332|2,55332|3) - no change
00:59:430 (59430|1) - Weak sound too. Maybe delete this. no
01:02:446 - To follow closely with the downward flow of the melody you may try this pattern: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9909958 no change
01:03:296 (63296|1,63296|2,63528|3,63528|2) - 01:04:920 (64920|1,64920|0,65152|3,65152|1) - 01:05:538 (65538|3,65538|1,65770|1,65770|2,66002|0,66002|1) - 01:07:626 (67626|0,67626|1) - These notes are merely melodies, so single notes are quite enough. INFINITE also takes single notes so double notes really don't fit in this diff. i think no problem
01:09:714 - to 01:11:105 - How about some rearrangement like this to avoid most of the unnecessary stacks? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9909976 change some
01:11:647 (71647|0) - Move this to col1, 01:11:647 (71647|0) - this to col3, and 01:11:724 (71724|2) - to col1, then you don't need to stack drums with melodies like 01:11:724 (71724|2,71878|2) - change some
01:15:590 (75590|3,75590|2) - 01:16:827 (76827|1,76827|0) - 01:17:136 (77136|2,77136|3) - Mixing with other doubles for drums they look quite confusing, so single notes actually fit better. change some
01:18:141 (78141|1) - No melody sound goes here. Delete it. fixed
01:18:683 (78683|0,78683|1) - 01:18:992 (78992|2,78992|0) - 01:20:538 (80538|1,80538|2) - 01:21:466 (81466|3,81466|1) - 01:23:013 (83013|0,83013|3) - 01:23:322 (83322|1,83322|0) - 01:23:631 (83631|2,83631|3) - 01:23:940 (83940|1,83940|2) - Single fits better with melody. fixed
01:22:858 (82858|3) - Move this to col2 to avoid stack on col4.. change some
01:24:791 (84791|1,84946|2) - They are not melody sounds so you don't need them. no
01:25:409 (85409|0,85564|2,85719|2,85873|0) - They don't belong to the main melody too. Delete them to make more clear patterns. no
01:29:043 (89043|3,89198|0,89353|3,89507|0) - These LNs stand for nothing cuz the melody sounds don't really go in that way. I think normal notes would be better for here since the double notes already make here a bit challenging. no change
01:30:358 (90358|2) - 01:30:976 (90976|1) - As your previous patterns for such sound indicate, you don't need these two notes cuz you used to follow melody during 1/8 bursts and drums after them. no change
01:33:992 (93992|2,94069|1,94147|2,94224|1,94301|2,94378|1,94456|2,94533|1,94610|2) - Kamui pattern you see. Get rid of these unbalanced patterns. fixed
01:38:244 - Don't you miss a melody sound here? FIXED
01:39:095 (99095|1) - No LN needed here because of no melody here. no change
01:40:255 (100255|1,100719|1,100951|1,101183|1,101647|1,101878|0,102110|2) - These notes are all unnecessary ones becuase they represent no melody sounds. Delete them and rearrange your patterns. ok
01:43:734 (103734|2,103889|2,104043|2,104198|2,104353|2) - Can you do something to avoid this stack? no change
01:47:600 - 01:47:755 - Why not also have two LNs here because they represent the main melody? change some pattern
01:48:837 - to 01:49:765 - Better do this to emphasize accurately on drums: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9910065 no
01:53:940 (113940|0) - Move to col3 for balance. ok
01:55:255 (115255|0) - Remove this LN to make each diff end at the same time. ok
Eedow做的不错 xl的需要多努力有些问题可能是普遍的我并没有指出希望可以自己检查并改一下主难度也还可以，主要是对某些地方结构不够满意。

Call me back when finish.

thx for mod

Eedow

178 posts

Joined June 2015

Eedow 2018-01-04T14:56:49+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:03:141 (3141|3,4378|2,5616|1,8090|2) - Delete them because the echos here are way too weak to be noticed. √
00:10:564 (10564|3) - If you apply the previous mod, make this LN start at 00:10:332 - .
00:30:358 (30358|2) - This note represents no melody and breaks your pattern of drums. Delete it. the melody exists
01:12:342 - 01:12:652 - They have the same volume. In the way of representation of sounds, I think triple notes fit both. √
01:13:966 (73966|1) - No melody sound here. Delete this. Here is a melody sound although it sounds like a bass sound
01:24:791 - Why not have another note here to continue your patterns like 01:23:940 (83940|1,84018|2,84095|3,84172|2,84250|1) - ? √
01:40:177 - to 01:42:652 - Patterns here are actually a bit boring for me cuz doubles are all focused on the left hands. How about some rearrangements to spread things out? √

Shima Rin

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Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-11T09:09:50+00:00

Recheck.

What you should do are the following:

1. Check pattern mods.
2. Check hitsound mods for GRAVITY diff.
3. Check hitsound inconsistencies in other diffs with respect to the fixed version of hitsound in GRAVITY. It is your job to make sure hitsound is always consistent.

[BASIC]

00:28:270 (28270|1,28425|1) - No need to stack them. Please rearrange.

[NOVICE]

Already good to go.

[Bie's ADVANCED]

00:37:085 (37085|3,37394|3) - Move them to col3 because these drums are during the next synth sound. You may differentiate them with 00:36:466 (36466|3,36775|3) - in this way.
01:19:765 (79765|1,79920|1,80074|1) - To avoid this stack, you may put 01:19:765 (79765|1) - on col1, and 01:19:610 (79610|0) - on col3.
01:22:317 (82317|0,82471|0) - I think in ADVANCED, you may delete these notes to reduce the pressure here and also emphasize more on the drums. Even EXHAUST does not catch such sounds so I think it is also logical for you not to have them.
01:36:462 - From here it is a bit imbalanced to col4 because on every 1/2 beat there is a note on col4. I know you wanna express the drums, but for such a 3* diff, I don't think players may really handle this as this repeats more. I hope you can try some rearrangements here.

[xl's EXHAUST]

00:20:074 (20074|3) - Move to col1 for balance.
00:26:878 (26878|3) - Move to col1 for balance.
01:08:786 (68786|1,68786|0) - It will look more consistent with 01:10:023 (70023|3,70023|2,70177|1,70177|0,70332|2,70332|3) - this similar pattern if you flip these two notes.
01:39:095 (99095|1) - This melody sound is absolutely weaker, so I suggest a normal note instead of a short LN.
01:43:889 (103889|2) - Why not move this to col1 to do some similar with your previous pattern. You may also want to move 01:43:734 (103734|0) - this to col2 if you apply this mod.
01:47:291 - I mean, you are using double notes for whole part, why you use a triple suddenly here? A double helps with consistency here.

[Eedow's INFINITE]

00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
01:42:265 (102265|0,102420|0) - Well, what are these short LNs for? They actually make your patterns here look more inconsistent and complex than it is supposed to be.

[GRAVITY]

00:01:208 (1208|0) - This should be deleted so that all diffs start from the same point.
00:28:116 (28116|2) - Better move to col2 to avoid 00:27:652 (27652|2,27806|2,27961|2,28116|2) - this stack. Then you may 00:28:270 (28270|0,28270|3,28270|1,28348|2,28425|3,28425|0,28425|1) - ctrl+h this pattern.
00:35:848 (35848|2) - Move to col2 to avoid the stack.
00:37:085 (37085|2) - Move to col4 for the same reason as above.
00:40:177 - Rearrange like this to avoid the stack: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9981172
00:45:126 (45126|3) - Move to col1 for the same reason.
00:48:064 (48064|3) - Better move to col2 for balance.
01:36:311 (96311|1) - May move to col3 to actually stack with the previous note because they are in a group.
01:38:013 (98013|2) - Move to col4 for balance.
01:38:476 (98476|1) - Move to col1.
01:38:786 (98786|2) - Move to col4.
01:45:435 (105435|3) - Looks better on col2.
01:47:291 - Aren't you supposed to have double note here? Why a triple?

Hitsounds:
00:23:476 - Add W and F
00:28:425 - Add F
00:29:662 - Add W
00:30:899 - 00:31:131 - 00:31:363 - 00:31:595 - 00:32:136 - Add W
00:42:188 - 00:42:652 - Add W
00:43:270 - Add C
00:53:167 - 00:53:399 - 00:53:631 - 00:53:863 - 00:55:641 - 00:55:873 - 00:56:105 - 00:56:337 - 00:57:652 - 00:57:961 - 00:58:116 - 00:58:348 - 00:58:580 - 00:58:811 - 00:59:353 - 00:59:585 - 00:59:817 - 01:00:049 - 01:00:590 - 01:00:822 - 01:01:208 - 01:01:440 - 01:02:446 - 01:02:677 - 01:02:909 - Add W
01:10:873 - 01:10:951 - 01:11:492 - 01:11:647 - Add W
01:12:342 - 01:12:652 - Add W
01:17:755 - Add W
01:22:858 - Add W
01:27:806 - 01:29:043 - 01:30:667 - 01:30:822 - 01:31:286 - 01:31:440 - 01:31:518 - 01:31:750 - 01:31:982 - 01:32:214 - 01:32:446 - 01:32:600 - 01:30:899 - Add W
01:30:899 - Delete one F
01:32:755 - Add F
01:35:229 - Add W
01:45:126 - Change F to W
01:49:610 - 01:49:688 - 01:50:074 - Add W
01:51:311 - 01:52:549 - 01:52:781 - 01:53:013 - 01:53:244 - 01:53:476 - 01:53:631 - 01:53:786 - Add W

Last edited by Shima Rin 2018-01-11T14:41:33+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-11T11:16:39+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
Recheck.

What you should do are the following:

1. Check pattern mods.
2. Check hitsound mods for GRAVITY diff.
3. Check hitsound inconsistencies in other diffs with respect to the fixed version of hitsound in GRAVITY. It is your job to make sure hitsound is always consistent.

[BASIC]
00:28:270 (28270|1,28425|1) - No need to stack them. Please rearrange.
[NOVICE]
Already good to go.
[Bie's ADVANCED]
00:37:085 (37085|3,37394|3) - Move them to col3 because these drums are during the next synth sound. You may differentiate them with 00:36:466 (36466|3,36775|3) - in this way.
01:19:765 (79765|1,79920|1,80074|1) - To avoid this stack, you may put 01:19:765 (79765|1) - on col1, and 01:19:610 (79610|0) - on col3.
01:22:317 (82317|0,82471|0) - I think in ADVANCED, you may delete these notes to reduce the pressure here and also emphasize more on the drums. Even EXHAUST does not catch such sounds so I think it is also logical for you not to have them.
01:36:462 - From here it is a bit imbalanced to col4 because on every 1/2 beat there is a note on col4. I know you wanna express the drums, but for such a 3* diff, I don't think players may really handle this as this repeats more. I hope you can try some rearrangements here.
[xl's EXHAUST]
[Eedow's INFINITE]
[GRAVITY]

Hitsounds:
00:23:476 - Add W and F
00:28:425 - Add F
00:29:662 - Add W
00:30:899 - 00:31:131 - 00:31:363 - 00:31:595 - 00:32:136 - Add W
00:42:188 - 00:42:652 - Add W
00:43:270 - Add C
00:53:167 - 00:53:399 - 00:53:631 - 00:53:863 - 00:55:641 - 00:55:873 - 00:56:105 - 00:56:337 - 00:57:652 - 00:57:961 - 00:58:116 - 00:58:348 - 00:58:580 - 00:58:811 - 00:59:353 - 00:59:585 - 00:59:817 - 01:00:049 - 01:00:590 - 01:00:822 - 01:01:208 - 01:01:440 - 01:02:446 - 01:02:677 - 01:02:909 - Add W
01:10:873 - 01:10:951 - 01:11:492 - 01:11:647 - Add W
01:12:342 - 01:12:652 - Add W
01:17:755 - Add W
01:22:858 - Add W
01:27:806 - 01:29:043 - 01:30:667 - 01:30:822 - 01:31:286 - 01:31:440 - 01:31:518 - 01:31:750 - 01:31:982 - 01:32:214 - 01:32:446 - 01:32:600 - 01:30:899 - Add W
01:30:899 - Delete one F
01:32:755 - Add F
01:35:229 - Add W
01:45:126 - Change F to W
01:49:610 - 01:49:688 - 01:50:074 - Add W
01:51:311 - 01:52:549 - 01:52:781 - 01:53:013 - 01:53:244 - 01:53:476 - 01:53:631 - 01:53:786 - Add W

Done

biemote

292 posts

Joined April 2011

biemote 2018-01-11T11:56:17+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[Bie's ADVANCED]
00:37:085 (37085|3,37394|3) - Move them to col3 because these drums are during the next synth sound. You may differentiate them with 00:36:466 (36466|3,36775|3) - in this way.
01:19:765 (79765|1,79920|1,80074|1) - To avoid this stack, you may put 01:19:765 (79765|1) - on col1, and 01:19:610 (79610|0) - on col3.
01:22:317 (82317|0,82471|0) - I think in ADVANCED, you may delete these notes to reduce the pressure here and also emphasize more on the drums. Even EXHAUST does not catch such sounds so I think it is also logical for you not to have them.
01:36:462 - From here it is a bit imbalanced to col4 because on every 1/2 beat there is a note on col4. I know you wanna express the drums, but for such a 3* diff, I don't think players may really handle this as this repeats more. I hope you can try some rearrangements here.

All fixed

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-11T13:09:52+00:00

[Hitsound]

00:45:126 - Delete one W.
01:08:013 - 01:09:250 - Add W.
01:11:724 - Delete one W.
01:12:342 - 01:12:342 - You still forget W here.
01:32:446 - Change one F to W.
01:32:755 - Delete one C.
01:48:992 - Delete one W.

Apply to all diffs.

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-11T13:48:39+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[Hitsound]
00:45:126 - Delete one W.
01:08:013 - 01:09:250 - Add W.
01:11:724 - Delete one W.
01:12:342 - 01:12:342 - You still forget W here.
01:32:446 - Change one F to W.
01:32:755 - Delete one C.
01:48:992 - Delete one W.
Apply to all diffs.

done

Eedow

178 posts

Joined June 2015

Eedow 2018-01-12T13:23:51+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
Recheck.
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
I Actually deleted this, but I can hear it clearly when I offed the hitsound. So I didn't forgot
01:42:265 (102265|0,102420|0) - Well, what are these short LNs for? They actually make your patterns here look more inconsistent and complex than it is supposed to be.
This sound is divided into two short notes, that's why I made it

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-12T23:57:12+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
Recheck.

[GRAVITY]
00:48:064 (48064|3) - Better move to col2 for balance. Well at first I don't recommend this pattern, secondly these two drugs are the same so I think it's not necessary to do like that

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-14T15:10:14+00:00

Eedow wrote:
Tofu1222 wrote:
Recheck.
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
I Actually deleted this, but I can hear it clearly when I offed the hitsound. So I didn't forgot

This is an issue of consistency now. For this only you have four but others have three, players will be expecting here to have 3. And indeed, even if here is a sound as you said, it is too weak to be noticed when playing in 100% speed so players won't notice that sound clearly but rather feel a bit weird to have 4 notes only here. Please keep consistent for your beginning.

Another issue is 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this one because it is really weird to have two LNs of different length here ONLY. And I don't see logic behind this when you are only catching one line of melody in this part. I think 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this should be deleted.

Eedow

178 posts

Joined June 2015

Eedow 2018-01-15T02:07:45+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
I Actually deleted this, but I can hear it clearly when I offed the hitsound. So I didn't forgot

This is an issue of consistency now. For this only you have four but others have three, players will be expecting here to have 3. And indeed, even if here is a sound as you said, it is too weak to be noticed when playing in 100% speed so players won't notice that sound clearly but rather feel a bit weird to have 4 notes only here. Please keep consistent for your beginning.
I've said I can hear it CLEARLY. Though not all players can hear it, some will be weird because notes there are playing delayed sounds, ONLY that is UNNOTED.

Another issue is 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this one because it is really weird to have two LNs of different length here ONLY. And I don't see logic behind this when you are only catching one line of melody in this part. I think 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this should be deleted.
That's an higher pitch than those same-pitch sounds. If I delete it, it will be the same pattern as 01:40:873 (100873|1) , that's stupid.

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-15T02:56:55+00:00

Eedow wrote:
Tofu1222 wrote:
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
I Actually deleted this, but I can hear it clearly when I offed the hitsound. So I didn't forgot

This is an issue of consistency now. For this only you have four but others have three, players will be expecting here to have 3. And indeed, even if here is a sound as you said, it is too weak to be noticed when playing in 100% speed so players won't notice that sound clearly but rather feel a bit weird to have 4 notes only here. Please keep consistent for your beginning.
I've said I can hear it CLEARLY. Though not all players can hear it, some will be weird because notes there are playing delayed sounds, ONLY that is UNNOTED.

I still keep my point here. And I will ask for some other BNs' opinions. If you do feel this is a sound, I do suggest you add back other 4th notes.

Another issue is 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this one because it is really weird to have two LNs of different length here ONLY. And I don't see logic behind this when you are only catching one line of melody in this part. I think 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this should be deleted.
That's an higher pitch than those same-pitch sounds. If I delete it, it will be the same pattern as 01:40:873 (100873|1) , that's stupid.

This is not stupid actually. By putting on a different column, you can make your ideas into pitch changes. However it doesn't necessarily mean that you need one more LN, because the sound type is still the same. Make only one 1/2 LN on col3, and it is different with the previous 1/2 LNs on col2 that on col3 it expresses a higher pitch.

By the way, I didn't mean at all to start any conflict or any other bad to you. If you feel anything uncomfortable for me I apologize for this.

Last edited by Shima Rin 2018-01-15T03:24:18+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Shima Rin

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Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-15T03:15:41+00:00

[Bie's ADVANCED]

01:00:049 - 01:01:208 - 01:01:440 - These cymbals may be double notes like other doubles you put for them.
01:37:935 - Feel it is better to have a note here because of the melody.
01:26:878 - Maybe have another double here for drum?
01:38:322 - Also it will keep the consistency of doubles for drums if you add another note here. It won't affect gameplay too much.
01:48:528 - Double for drum here too.

[GRAVITY]

00:53:090 (53090|0) - May delete this to avoid the mini-jack, just like what you did here 01:11:647 - .

BASIC and NOVICE are quite good now. Eedow's INFINITE will be ok to go after fixing the issues argued in previous posts.

Asherz007

Beatmap Nominator

687 posts

Joined September 2016

Asherz007 2018-01-15T03:32:36+00:00

Man, why is everyone using red...

People, please calm down. Don't let things get messy through "who can shout the loudest". It only slows the whole process down and irritates everyone.

First things first, just as I was checking the thread.

biemote wrote:
Tofu1222 wrote:
[Bie's ADVANXED Lv.9]
From 00:13:580 - , the layering are mostly using the same note amount as EXHAUXT, so I really suggest you to nerf a bit in your diff: using double notes twice only in a bar, which looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9799367. →no change...

No change because? It's fine to deny changes, but you need to provide backup as to why you think keeping it the way it is is better (just saying "it will make it worse" doesn't count). That way other modders will see this and could potentially understand your intentions a little more, as well as properly resolving the issue. This is important especially with the transition to moddingv2 since it will appear to people like you're randomly denying things and people will simply reopen the issues.

Next person.

Eedow wrote:
Tofu1222 wrote:
[Eedow's INFINITE]
00:05:616 (5616|1) - You forget to delete this.
I Actually deleted this, but I can hear it clearly when I offed the hitsound. So I didn't forgot

This is an issue of consistency now. For this only you have four but others have three, players will be expecting here to have 3. And indeed, even if here is a sound as you said, it is too weak to be noticed when playing in 100% speed so players won't notice that sound clearly but rather feel a bit weird to have 4 notes only here. Please keep consistent for your beginning.
I've said I can hear it CLEARLY. Though not all players can hear it, some will be weird because notes there are playing delayed sounds, ONLY that is UNNOTED. Yes, you are right in that there's a sound there, as well as after all of the other 3 note stacks at the start. On the other hand, you'd have to be listening at a 25% playback rate and trying to listen just for that sound, and only then can you hear it. To me, that means the sound is more or less non-existent and not really worth mapping, but you're the mapper, so it's up to you. It does remain important that it's done consistenly, so either all of them are 3-note stacks or all of them are 4-note stacks, but not a mix of both.

Another issue is 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this one because it is really weird to have two LNs of different length here ONLY. And I don't see logic behind this when you are only catching one line of melody in this part. I think 01:41:801 (101801|2) - this should be deleted.
That's an higher pitch than those same-pitch sounds. If I delete it, it will be the same pattern as 01:40:873 (100873|1) , that's stupid.
Well change the pattern then. Simple. I really don't think representing this sound with two LNs of different lengths is a good idea, since the shorter LN isn't really representing anything concrete; just acknowledging that the synth is different through this doesn't really work in my opinion. Break the 4132 LN pattern instead; you could change the direction instead, something along the lines of this is an option.

Again, please remain calm and the whole process will be much smoother.

Also HXJ_Crafter I need to slap you for using GRV as a diff name in an sdvx 2 song when that name as a diff didn't exist lol

Eedow

178 posts

Joined June 2015

Eedow 2018-01-15T05:29:09+00:00

http://puu.sh/z1SJ1/601be0ef1c.rar
I can still hear the sound at 00:05:616 at 100% speed

Arzenvald

4,033 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2018-01-15T11:23:23+00:00

move along w

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-15T11:51:10+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
move along w

w

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-15T12:34:37+00:00

Asherz007 wrote:
Man, why is everyone using red...

Also HXJ_Crafter I need to slap you for using GRV as a diff name in an sdvx 2 song when that name as a diff didn't exist lol
WE HAVE SDVX III so We have XROSS INFECTION GRAVITY lmao

thx

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-20T11:37:30+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
Recheck.

[xl's EXHAUST]
00:20:074 (20074|3) - Move to col1 for balance.
00:26:878 (26878|3) - Move to col1 for balance.
01:08:786 (68786|1,68786|0) - It will look more consistent with 01:10:023 (70023|3,70023|2,70177|1,70177|0,70332|2,70332|3) - this similar pattern if you flip these two notes.
01:39:095 (99095|1) - This melody sound is absolutely weaker, so I suggest a normal note instead of a short LN.
01:43:889 (103889|2) - Why not move this to col1 to do some similar with your previous pattern. You may also want to move 01:43:734 (103734|0) - this to col2 if you apply this mod.
01:47:291 - I mean, you are using double notes for whole part, why you use a triple suddenly here? A double helps with consistency here.

FIXED With Permission

==============================

Tofu1222 wrote:
[GRAVITY]
00:53:090 (53090|0) - May delete this to avoid the mini-jack, just like what you did here 01:11:647 - .
BASIC and NOVICE are quite good now. Eedow's INFINITE will be ok to go after fixing the issues argued in previous posts.

FIXED

biemote

292 posts

Joined April 2011

biemote 2018-01-20T12:28:08+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
[Bie's ADVANCED]
01:00:049 - 01:01:208 - 01:01:440 - These cymbals may be double notes like other doubles you put for them. →√
01:37:935 - Feel it is better to have a note here because of the melody. →This melody sound is like 01:37:781 - which is also ignored. I think it would be better to keep them ignored~
01:26:878 - Maybe have another double here for drum? →√
01:38:322 - Also it will keep the consistency of doubles for drums if you add another note here. It won't affect gameplay too much. →√
01:48:528 - Double for drum here too. →√

Asherz007 wrote:
Man, why is everyone using red...

People, please calm down. Don't let things get messy through "who can shout the loudest". It only slows the whole process down and irritates everyone.

First things first, just as I was checking the thread.

ahh...I just use red color to make my reply more conspicuous . Not shout or irritate. (Maybe I should change to another color to reply?

[Bie's ADVANCED]
From 00:13:580 - , the layering are mostly using the same note amount as EXHAUXT, so I really suggest you to nerf a bit in your diff: using double notes twice only in a bar, which looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9799367. →no change...
If I nerf here , the difficulty gap of this part and the after part will become huger. So I think keeping this pattern is better.

SpectorDG

1,167 posts

Joined June 2014

SpectorDG 2018-01-20T16:11:07+00:00

Talked with Tofu and Im do something here. Mods only hardest diff.

[GRAVITY]

00:18:605 - You missed one more note here, it's same as your Red to Red parts (but it's different than 00:28:425 - this one.)
00:32:755 - INFINITE's burst more harder than GRAVITY. why not make something like that? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055284
00:50:229 (50229|3) - It's should be move to [2] cause you mapped 2 to 2 before parts : 00:48:373 (48373|2,48373|0,48683|0,48683|2) - 00:48:992 (48992|3,48992|2,49301|3,49301|2) - 00:49:610 (49610|0,49610|2,49920|2,49920|0) - .
00:54:714 - Doubles? it's solo synth sound? so you mapped double here? if you sure you should add more notes on other solo synth sound 00:54:250 - 00:56:724 - .
also 00:54:868 (54868|1,54946|2) - better to move [1] and [4].
00:57:806 - Different synth is starting here why you mapped only simple note here? it's must be multi. like this one
01:04:920 - Why you make triple here?
01:11:028 (71028|2,71144|2) - Kinda awkard to catchable so maybe you can make better that one.
If you sure with above you must be re-arrange thats one too 01:11:647 (71647|0,71724|3,71724|1,71724|2,71878|2,72033|1,72188|0,72342|1,72342|2,72342|3,72652|2,72652|1,72652|0,72961|1,72961|2,72961|3) - Ctrl+H.
01:20:538 (80538|1,80693|2,80848|0,81002|3,81157|0) - Ctrl+H to keeping 01:20:229 - 01:20:538 these
01:24:559 (84559|0,84636|2) - 4/1 LN's kinda awkard to playable on 2/1 LN stream part.
01:26:260 (86260|3,86415|2) - Make these more multi for same reason as before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055213.
01:30:822 - Same as before.
01:31:518 - I think you are missed something here? maybe some green lights?
~~01:31:440 - Keeping doubles for playabile?~~
~~01:41:801 (101801|2) - Looks it's special~~
01:43:889 - There are needs little bit improve? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055317.
01:48:992 (108992|2,109147|1) - Ctrl+G to keeping twin triple pattern.
01:50:848 (110848|0) - Change this simple note to 2/1 LN, it's much better than read to your pattern.

[INFINITE]

00:30:358 (30358|0) - Why not just prefer 2/1 stream here? I think no needs any 4/1 notes here. Just suggestion

[SV]

1.0x 1.1x 1.2x 1.3x 1.4x 0.75x is very rude to ranking. So you can use new meta for your beginning parts.
01:49:765 - There are very fast to catch for next pattern, so 1.8x 1.5x.
00:13:580 - INFINITE added double 1.0x here so delete one.

[HS]

Current soft-hitnormal is little bit louder than other hitsounds so you can use another one New soft-hitnormal
01:03:064 - Double |C| Delete one.
01:10:951 - ^ |W|.
01:10:796 - ^ |W|.

XROSS INFECTION is best song

Goodluck!

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-21T14:40:52+00:00

SpectorDG wrote:
Talked with Tofu and Im do something here. Mods only hardest diff.

[notice][GRAVITY]
00:32:755 - INFINITE's burst more harder than GRAVITY. why not make something like that? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055284
00:57:806 - Different synth is starting here why you mapped only simple note here? it's must be multi. like this one
01:24:559 (84559|0,84636|2) - 4/1 LN's kinda awkard to playable on 2/1 LN stream part.
01:26:260 (86260|3,86415|2) - Make these more multi for same reason as before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055213.
01:43:889 - There are needs little bit improve? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10055317.
In my opinion, Multi-short-LN will cause more problem than I'm expected to think so I think mine is ok for me.
emmm but short LN in this chart is not difficult at all..
[SV]
1.0x 1.1x 1.2x 1.3x 1.4x 0.75x is very rude to ranking. So you can use new meta for your beginning parts.
waiting for Tofu's reply...?! :3

XROSS INFECTION is best song

Goodluck!

Not mentioned = fixed

can't dl that hs-nm, waiting for help uwu

Eedow

178 posts

Joined June 2015

Eedow 2018-01-21T14:45:58+00:00

SpectorDG wrote:
[INFINITE]
00:30:358 (30358|0) - Why not just prefer 2/1 stream here? I think no needs any 4/1 notes here. Just suggestion

here is a sound~~, and you can see every part like this has two 4/1 streams~~

_Stan

Beatmap Nominator

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_Stan 2018-01-22T09:05:40+00:00

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Shima Rin

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Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-23T05:41:16+00:00

_Stan wrote:
喝喜酒滑翔机化学键焊锡机汉学家韩学键汉学界好想家何享健红星奖洪宣娇红学家红学界后悬架牛逼！

HXJ_Crafter wrote:
[SV]
1.0x 1.1x 1.2x 1.3x 1.4x 0.75x is very rude to ranking. So you can use new meta for your beginning parts.
waiting for Tofu's reply...?! :3

This makes a different SV impact, but actually it fits too. I think this depends on you to fix or not. For your previous SVs it is indeed a bit fierce but if you don't want to change it doesn't mean unrankable too.

XROSS INFECTION is best song

Goodluck!

can't dl that hs-nm, waiting for help uwu

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-27T10:45:22+00:00

I think this is the last time.

[GRAVITY]

01:36:466 (96466|0) - There should not be a LN here because no new melody sound appear. You should extend this LN 01:35:229 (95229|3) - to 01:36:621 -
01:39:095 (99095|1) - This melody sound is way too weak, so delete this and place one LN on 01:39:250 - because it is where the real strong melody sound appear.
01:51:311 (111311|0,111621|3,111930|0,112239|3) - Just notice that the real high-pitch melody sounds are actually not on these lines but should on 01:51:466 - 01:51:775 - 01:52:085 - 01:52:394 - , so I think you should move those four LNs to these four new places.

Other diffs already satisfied with my standards. Go fix these issues and be sure to apply hitsound mods to all diffs and recheck them before you call me back.

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-27T14:11:03+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
I think this is the last time.

[GRAVITY]
01:36:466 (96466|0) - There should not be a LN here because no new melody sound appear. You should extend this LN 01:35:229 (95229|3) - to 01:36:621 -
01:39:095 (99095|1) - This melody sound is way too weak, so delete this and place one LN on 01:39:250 - because it is where the real strong melody sound appear.
01:51:311 (111311|0,111621|3,111930|0,112239|3) - Just notice that the real high-pitch melody sounds are actually not on these lines but should on 01:51:466 - 01:51:775 - 01:52:085 - 01:52:394 - , so I think you should move those four LNs to these four new places.

Other diffs already satisfied with my standards. Go fix these issues and be sure to apply hitsound mods to all diffs and recheck them before you call me back.

Done

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2018-01-27T16:10:30+00:00

GRAVITY is all good now. Hitsound is rechecked and fixed by the mapper. Everything should be good to go. Bubbled!

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-01-28T03:14:22+00:00

Above
You know Mania is bubbled
then if I update taiko it'll be popped
but never care owo

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2018-02-18T19:26:01+00:00

seems theres no statement about approving taiko set is fine. if it was approved from taiko BN, give the link post

popping this map due the unsnapped sliders on taiko diffs, most the issues can be found from muzukashii. but try to check all taiko diffs

>Chikane
* 00:22:935 - is not this should be as kat since it has different sound with 00:17:987 - the similar part?
* 00:28:269 (134,135,136,137,138,139) - ctrl g these would better on accurate emphasis of sound
* 00:42:187 (263,267,268) - finishers emphasis right, but it feels bad if you end 00:43:270 - this emphasis without finish. how about add finish in here and delete this or just give it finish?
* 01:05:074 - from here, how about switch the colors as dd kk ? to avoid 01:05:305 (464,465,466) - monotone in here, alteration emphasis seems good if you switch it
* 01:10:486 (505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512) - sounds good but 01:11:105 - in here, 01:11:260 - try to switch it with 01:11:337 - this to give a significant emphasis
* 01:30:281 - tbh still not good with the intense emphasis in this pattern part. kkkd d kddk would give a strong emphasis, 01:30:899 - also in here too
* 01:46:827 - kat it, 01:46:672 - to follow similar sound
old taste, well yeah mapped..

>Thousand
* 00:07:471 - ~ 00:12:304 - well yeh..
* 00:34:108 - ~ 00:36:234 - dominant of kats but I felt that part just, weak flows? at least 00:34:765 - 00:35:461 - don these, seems balance with some sound e.g drum
* 00:51:853 - idk why but its good as don and 00:52:162 - kat this to follow piano flows, feels duhh to ignore it
* 00:52:935 (350,351,352,353) - I thinks its flat streamsound, so yeah 00:53:013 - don this
* 01:00:126 - ~ 01:00:513 - around here, why not to add notes to follow the sound. kinda inconsistent in here
* 01:37:703 - ~ 01:38:090 - make a stream in here? feels weird as 1/2
* 01:40:564 - don it , feels overemphasis with kat
* 01:43:811 - move to 01:43:657 - here, good alteration stream between 01:43:734 - and 01:43:889 -

>Jessi
* 00:47:909 - too much with dons from here, how about 00:48:373 - 00:49:610 - kat these to give emphasis with after the melody of flows?
* 00:50:693 - kat it to follow melody
* 01:19:920 - kat to follow the stream flows

and the rest diffs seems good for me... for now and I guess.
still needs to work with taiko set, try to find modders more and good luck

JessiChan

488 posts

Joined January 2012

JessiChan 2018-02-19T00:12:58+00:00

Surono wrote:
>Jessi
* 00:47:909 - too much with dons from here, how about 00:48:373 - 00:49:610 - kat these to give emphasis with after the melody of flows?
* 00:50:693 - kat it to follow melody
* 01:19:920 - kat to follow the stream flows

and the rest diffs seems good for me... for now and I guess.
still needs to work with taiko set, try to find modders more and good luck

All applied, thanks Surono.

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Arzenvald

4,033 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2018-02-19T00:36:52+00:00

kwek :'V

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2018-02-19T07:28:15+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
kwek :'V

:'v makasih dah bilangin, baru sadar di bub ala tavvuranz.

HXJ_Crafter

207 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

HXJ_Crafter 2018-02-20T13:10:38+00:00

Surono wrote:
Arzenvald wrote:
kwek :'V
:'v makasih dah bilangin, baru sadar di bub ala tavvuranz.

??? @Arzenvald

Todotrucks

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Todotrucks 2018-03-02T05:40:00+00:00

Surono wrote:
>Thousand
* 00:07:471 - ~ 00:12:304 - well yeh.. uh..? @w@
* 00:34:108 - ~ 00:36:234 - dominant of kats but I felt that part just, weak flows? at least 00:34:765 - 00:35:461 - don these, seems balance with some sound e.g drum Sure!
* 00:51:853 - idk why but its good as don and 00:52:162 - kat this to follow piano flows, feels duhh to ignore it done
* 00:52:935 (350,351,352,353) - I thinks its flat streamsound, so yeah 00:53:013 - don this done
* 01:00:126 - ~ 01:00:513 - around here, why not to add notes to follow the sound. kinda inconsistent in here done
* 01:37:703 - ~ 01:38:090 - make a stream in here? feels weird as 1/2 done
* 01:40:564 - don it , feels overemphasis with kat done
* 01:43:811 - move to 01:43:657 - here, good alteration stream between 01:43:734 - and 01:43:889 - done

Thanks for your mod!

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Shima Rin

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Shima Rin 2018-04-09T10:54:46+00:00

Well, I will put this icon here as the mania diffs were checked and had nothing changed. It's ok if you wanna recheck them, arzen :3

Shima Rin

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Shima Rin 2018-05-07T12:37:31+00:00

If you can't find HimemiyaChikane, actually I can't find him too cuz he didn't reply to my PM for two weeks, find one taiko mapper in your set and take care of his diff then. It's normal to do that for those who have quit already. I of course can help with that diff but I think it is not proper since I am nominating this set, and I am not that sort of taiko pro ;w; Good luck and be quick~

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