flawless victory O___O

Sonnyc wrote:

01:56:176 (1) - Unsnapped object.

Not some aspire matters :3 Fix it, and I can make a nomination.

send me a forum pm as well when you ready!

hello im nitpicking

just a few things you could do if you care (aka hi im nitpicking)

following full-burai sliders could have start and end stacking perfectly
00:09:279 (3) - 00:19:796 (2) - 00:20:313 (2) -

00:34:105 (1) - maybe thats just me but i think it would fit better if this slider would go on for longer because right now half of the DRRRRRRRRRRRT sound goes ignored

no real clue why you do streamjump for 00:38:501 (6,1) - , considering you didnt do that for other stuff
00:55:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe louder / clearer hitsounding with soft whistles?
01:06:060 (8,1) - stack

01:40:313 (1,1) - this is new isnt it lol anyways why does it stack and nothing else in the entire map stacks

It'd be neat if one of the honourable mentions donated their storyboard for this set. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Sonnyc fixed the unsnap! Just moved it in timeline.

Okorin wrote:

hello im nitpicking

just a few things you could do if you care (aka hi im nitpicking)

following full-burai sliders could have start and end stacking perfectly
00:09:279 (3) - 00:19:796 (2) - 00:20:313 (2) - Fixed!

00:34:105 (1) - maybe thats just me but i think it would fit better if this slider would go on for longer because right now half of the DRRRRRRRRRRRT sound goes ignored I want to keep this just because I think making it a 1/4 jump with the slider arranged like this makes it really hard for players to properly use slider-leniency to jump to the next object.

no real clue why you do streamjump for 00:38:501 (6,1) - , considering you didnt do that for other stuff Alright, removed the streamjump here.
00:55:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe louder / clearer hitsounding with soft whistles? Yea sure. Added some soft-whistles
01:06:060 (8,1) - stack Okay

01:40:313 (1,1) - this is new isnt it lol anyways why does it stack and nothing else in the entire map stacks Fixed by just moving the circle 1ms forward in timeline xD.

Alright, ready!

I was impressed
thank you

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 2074725196


huhu, message to everyone can you test if the warning arrows of your skins get overwritten by this map? For mine, they don't which is a bit unfortunate since not having them would make for a better effect

Testing on Cutting Edge and beatmap skins enabled.

Doesn't override.

mine dont either even though they should, weird weird weird

seems like that element turns out to be not beatmap skinnable then...? Sonnyc said his arrow overrides but he uses Fallback...

Okorin wrote:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bhnV-CQRMy3Z0npQd9XSoTdkYxz0ew5e648S00qkJZ8/edit#gid=2074725196


huhu, message to everyone can you test if the warning arrows of your skins get overwritten by this map? For mine, they don't which is a bit unfortunate since not having them would make for a better effect

Beatmap usage "No" :/
(you can't find it under beatmap skin sets as well)

Yea. It's not working on cutting edge, but it's supposed to work... I wonder if we can keep it like it is? Maybe in the future there will be some change that will allow this element to be skinnable on all platforms again? I don't think it hurts to keep the warningarrow image in the file for now. If we remove the image, and this feature becomes skinnable in the future, we won't be able to add the file in again. What do you guys think? Keep it anyways?

exactly what i was thinking^

keep it for future use, and doesnt piranhas skin have a custom warning arrow element in it?

Although the cutting edge isn't supporting, we've got a client that is using that object as a skinnable element. Considering that file as unused won't be valid imo. Besides, it's just 143bytes, which is extremely small in file size. I have no issues on that.

This is amazing.

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable.
00:09:279 (3) - ^
00:17:900 (1) - ^
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^
01:48:933 (1) - ^

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders.
00:23:072 (1) - ^
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast
00:45:486 (1) - ^
01:08:934 (1) - ^
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better.
01:40:313 (1) - ^

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical!

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable.

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Hello.

In case you're confused, please keep in mind that this is a winner of the osu!Aspire mapping contest, and will be treated as a specially approved beatmap this case. This contest is testing the limits of creativity inside the editor, and no ranking criteria was applied in this contest. Hope you got stuffs here clearer.

If it was a meme, nice try.

regarding the breaks, i think you might have mistimed them a bit. looking at the timing points in the notepad i can see what you're going for, but i think there's a bit of a delay between where the breaks theoretically start/end and where they actually and visually start/end, probably because they fade in and out

like in the first break, set to 11003,12381, it's set to start at 00:11:003 (1) - and end on 00:12:382 (1) - which makes perfect sense, but watching-GN's play of it it looks instead like it starts on 00:11:262 (2) - and ends on 00:13:244 (5) - and this seems to be the case on a few of the other breaks, but not all of them.

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable.
00:09:279 (3) - ^
00:17:900 (1) - ^
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^
01:48:933 (1) - ^

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders.
00:23:072 (1) - ^
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast
00:45:486 (1) - ^
01:08:934 (1) - ^
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better.
01:40:313 (1) - ^

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical!

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable.

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

i feel bad for you

Hpocks wrote:

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

I think you triggered me a little bit more then need be.

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable.
00:09:279 (3) - ^
00:17:900 (1) - ^
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^
01:48:933 (1) - ^

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders.
00:23:072 (1) - ^
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast
00:45:486 (1) - ^
01:08:934 (1) - ^
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better.
01:40:313 (1) - ^

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical!

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable.

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Nice

Hpocks wrote:

I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

in your dreams

Hpocks wrote:

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all!
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right?

I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

can you even make those sliders lo. monstra told me they took a lot effort. how can you say they aren't playable and said he's a freaking moron lmfao. t r i g g e r e d nice try if its a meme xd

Hpocks wrote:

I have heard rumors that you are trying to rank this, so I have decided to leave a simple mod to discuss some of the things that are wrong with it and make it unrankable. Even ignoring the distinct lack of readability, distance spacing, and general playability throughout the entire song, this map still has many issues, some of which I will point out in this mod.


[Aspire]

To make this map rankable, you need to make a full set for this song, which includes a map that is at least less than 2*, and a steady spread throughout reaching this diffulcty (easy, normal, hard, insane, then this behemoth)

00:00:659 (1) - This slider should end at 00:00:831 -. You see, when sliders for no reason bend back on themselves, that is confusing and is hard to read. This should be fixed to make the map more readable. Fixed it by rotating the slider 360 degrees.
00:09:279 (3) - ^ Rotated it 720 degrees instead.
00:17:900 (1) - ^Moved this up 5 pixels, right 20 pixels, down 5 pixels, and left 20 pixels.
00:18:589 (1,2,1) - ^Ctrl+G'ed this twice.
00:19:969 (1,2) - ^ Ctrl+G'ed it 4 times.
01:48:933 (1) - ^ Ctrl+H'ed it, then Ctrl+J'ed, then rotated 180 degrees!

00:01:865 (1,2) - I see here that you put the circle on top of the slider at the end. This is not allowed, and the fact that the circle is on the slider makes it difficult to read, and it should be changed immediately. The examples below could either be examples of notes ontop of notes or sliders on top of sliders Excellent observation! Moved it two pixels up, four pixels down, then two pixels up again!
00:04:624 (1,2) - ^ Same
00:07:382 (1,2) - ^I deleted this, the Ctlr+L'ed
00:10:141 (1,2) - ^Deleted this, then Ctrl+Z'ed
00:12:900 (4,5) - ^Same here
00:15:658 (1,2) - ^Deleted this, and the next two as well, then Ctrl+Shift+L'ed
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:40:313 (1,1) - ^

00:12:037 (4) - Not only is this slider bad because of how suddenly fast it is, but it also changes speed as it goes along its path. Your sliders should not change speed during its movement, and this is highly difficult to read. The examples below could even show random speed changing of sliders, extremely slow, or extremely fast sliders. Reduced the SV by 2x, then doubled the SV.
00:23:072 (1) - ^ Doubled the bpm, then reduced the bpm by 174.
00:34:105 (1) - ^ I dont even know what the hell this is I believe this is a slider.
00:44:796 (1,2,1,2) - ^ But it is overly slow instead of fast Made it twice as fast, then twice as slow.
00:45:486 (1) - ^ Reduced the SV by a factor of 1.
01:08:934 (1) - ^Pressed "E" on the slider-head twice.
01:36:348 (1) - ^ A spinner would be about 200x more appropriate. Even a circle would be many times better. Deleted the slider, and added a spinner, then updated my map to the latest pending version.
01:40:313 (1) - ^ ^Used the same technique here.

00:42:813 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Not only are these sliders very difficult to read (you have no idea what direction they would go!), but they are painfully fast and unplayable!!! Not even AUTO can do these! These need to be taken out immediately. You have to be a freaking moron to think this was playable at all! I agree. Replaced with 1/4 repeating sliders, then reverted to the last saved stated.
01:11:002 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ I hope these are jokes. You know this is absolute crap that needs to be remapped, right? I agree. Deleted the entire map and redownloaded it.

00:56:520 (1) - Nice symmetry! Make this symmetrical! Ctrl+H'ed it twice! Hopefully it's more symmetrical now.

02:02:726 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes are not fully on the screen. You see, when notes are not on the screen, they are very difficult to read and nearly impossible to hit. These are just plain unrankable. Replaced them with a spinner, and Ctrl+L'ed

And I didnt even go over anything nit-picky. ALL of these things have to be changes for the map to even have a slither of chance of being ranked.
I would like Kudosu for being the most helpful mod here...

Thanks for the amazing mod! I literally fixed everything! Leave your memes elsewhere, child. You'll get outmeme'd every time.

Forlornly wrote:

regarding the breaks, i think you might have mistimed them a bit. looking at the timing points in the notepad i can see what you're going for, but i think there's a bit of a delay between where the breaks theoretically start/end and where they actually and visually start/end, probably because they fade in and out

like in the first break, set to 11003,12381, it's set to start at 00:11:003 (1) - and end on 00:12:382 (1) - which makes perfect sense, but watching-GN's play of it it looks instead like it starts on 00:11:262 (2) - and ends on 00:13:244 (5) - and this seems to be the case on a few of the other breaks, but not all of them.

Theres the fade out yes. But what was most important for me was the health bar, and other objects on the screen fading out in sync to the music. It's true, the actual "break" doesn't begin until 250 ms after the initial break, due to fade out, but i'm aiming to snap the fade out and fade in with the music, not the break duration itself. Fadein-Fadeout being snapped maps more sense because it better relates to the theme of "transforming" and seeing a visual change in progress as you go from one section to another.

Thanks for your time though!

Nominated.

Nice :3

monstrata filthy memer
grats on nomination!
hype bois

get hyped

as a ctb bn i'm basically the most qualified to check maps like this right :^)

why is the description talking about assholes

Nominated, we gonna wait for Chaoslitz and Okorin, since they also want to give their approval to the map.

Ayyy almost there :3

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

get hyped

as a ctb bn i'm basically the most qualified to check maps like this right :^)

i s ranked so, good for ctb

that never stopped me

oh baby a triple

lololol

Monstrata wrote:

Forlornly wrote:

regarding the breaks, i think you might have mistimed them a bit. looking at the timing points in the notepad i can see what you're going for, but i think there's a bit of a delay between where the breaks theoretically start/end and where they actually and visually start/end, probably because they fade in and out

like in the first break, set to 11003,12381, it's set to start at 00:11:003 (1) - and end on 00:12:382 (1) - which makes perfect sense, but watching-GN's play of it it looks instead like it starts on 00:11:262 (2) - and ends on 00:13:244 (5) - and this seems to be the case on a few of the other breaks, but not all of them.

Theres the fade out yes. But what was most important for me was the health bar, and other objects on the screen fading out in sync to the music. It's true, the actual "break" doesn't begin until 250 ms after the initial break, due to fade out, but i'm aiming to snap the fade out and fade in with the music, not the break duration itself. Fadein-Fadeout being snapped maps more sense because it better relates to the theme of "transforming" and seeing a visual change in progress as you go from one section to another.

Thanks for your time though!

not actually too sure what you mean, but it sounds like you wanted to visual aspect of the break to sync up with some musical aspect of the song itself. in the section i'm talking about, the first break, there's a section where the music kind of holds its breath and the humming in the music stops, until 00:12:382 (1) - when the noise kind of comes back in and resumes, and that's where you set the break to end, which makes sense atmospherically. but when i first played the map, the whole timing of the break starting and ending seemed to be off jussst slightly, but the fading nature of breaks made this perceived mistiming a lot more conspicuous, in that first break as well as in a couple of the other longer ones. i think when you set the break to end at 00:12:382 (1) - that's when the background BEGINS to fade out, but i think it would be more atmospherically effective to have it FINISH fading out at 00:12:382 (1) -

again, i didnt really understand what you said in your post so sorry if that's exactly what you addressed, but clarifying just in case

It's exactly what I addressed. I want it to begin fading in/out, not finish fading in/out at the time stamp. I want to capture the transition, the point of transformation, not the end result.

ah ok. it still seems it'd work better for it to finish fading out when the music reenters, to have that decisive single point when the background settles back into solidity and the song continues on its way. but if the timing now is what you intended then that's fine, thanks for the reply