genkicho wrote:

map ressurected.... uhh really im trying to rank this like a stupid because its kinda impossible to rank..

Asherz007 wrote:

Hey there! From a modding queue.

genkicho wrote:

map ressurected.... uhh really im trying to rank this like a stupid because its kinda impossible to rank..

Yeah... Sadly, there has been a rule change where BNs can only cast their judgement on a mapset in which they can pass all of the diffs... so you may be struggling to find capable people. But don't worry, the map is very promising. thx :> gonna try rank this to deatth

General

I don't know... I'm just not a fan of using the drum sampleset for this. Up to you though, really.

Might I suggest a change to the OD/HP structure?

1. EZ: OD 6, HP 6 (fine imo from the large number of LNs)
2. NM: OD 7, HP 7
3. HD: OD 8, HP 7.5
4. MX: OD 8.2, HP 7.8
5. SC: OD 8.5, HP 8
6. SHD: OD 8.8, HP 8.2
7. Awakened: OD 9, HP 8.5 thx for suggestion, gonna fix HP and OD

Mania maps don't tend to go above OD/HP 9, from what I've seen.

Also, don't double-up on hitsounds... or more. (like at 00:22:133) It's often a little too much. (I reckon for this specific example, a double should be fine, whereas a triple isn't.) which diff

0|1|2|3

EZ

As a general note, EZ diffs should not really have any SV changes in them at all. People need to get used to the notes alone first, never mind them scrolling down at different speeds. I'd suggest removing these. fixed

1. 00:01:062 (1062|3,1597|3,2133|3,2669|3,3026|3,3204|2,3740|2,4276|2,4811|2,5169|2,5347|1,5883|1,6419|1,6954|1,7311|1,7490|2,8026|2,8561|3,9097|3,9454|2) etc etc etc... - Ok, so at the moment, you're mapping the piano, right? How about mapping to the drum set? (the cymbal-sounding things actually have some sort of pitch, surprisingly.) It would allow you to map like this, instead of putting everything in the same column. Listen closely to the audio to see what I mean. (Looking at the other diffs, this idea could also apply there too.) aww sorry, i think this pattern already fine[color]
2. 00:47:847 (47847|2) - Change to col 1 for hand balance?
3. 01:13:919 (73919|0,76061|2,78204|1,80347|0) - Why not make these LNs? i want to make it easy as possible, cuz the SR succ and i think LN not good for that part
4. 02:06:419 (126419|3,126419|0) - Switch to cols 1+2? (only because the previous notes were in this column, plus this combo hasn't been used for the entire map.)fixed

HD

Drum following idea still applicable here. Apart from that, there's not much. Hitsounding wise, I think you went a little overboard on using the soft whistle in some areas. Don't forget, hitsounds don't necessarily need to be on every note.loll sorry bout that, this is my first hitsound map xD

1. 00:15:436 (15436|0) - On the white tick earlier in col 3 for the pattern? fixed
2. 00:22:847 - Don't really see any reason to have the minijacks here. What about like this? Many more occasions where the notes can be rearranged to avoid the unnecessary minijacks and improving hand balance at the same time. fixed some, and some not. sorry i misheard the piano sound
3. 00:39:454 (39454|3,39544|2) - Move one col left? moved
4. 01:11:776 (71776|0,71895|2,72014|1,72133|3,72252|2,72371|0,72490|3,72609|1,72728|2) - I know what you're trying to map here, but being the only bar which is mapped to 1/3s, I don't think it's worth it. Consider remapping to the drums instead. it was drum, but many ppl said need variations, so i decided to change it
5. 01:38:561 (98561|2,98829|2,98919|1,99097|1,99276|2,99454|1,99633|2) - Too much finish HS here.but the song is liek dat :<
6. For the LN section at 01:56:776, I know you're trying for variation, but I really don't think this is necessary and thus should all be replaced with normal notes. aww no, i think it's worth it, SHD and SC use same style too
7. 02:01:061 (121061|3,121061|2,121240|3,121240|2,121419|2,121419|1,121597|1,121597|2,121776|0,121776|1,121954|1,121954|0,122133|1,122133|2,122311|1,122311|2,122490|3,122490|2,122669|3,122669|2,122847|1,122847|2,123026|1,123026|2) - This isn't really following anything. You could follow the cymbals, or map the piano stream instead. rearranged, but not like dat,
8. 02:03:204 (123204|3,123294|0,123383|3,123472|0,123561|3,123651|0,123740|3,123829|0,123919|3,124008|0,124097|3,124186|0) - Put some notes in different columns. This is extremely hard to read and play when repeated for this longwat... trill is trill... just spam 0 4 0 4 0 4 with correct beat.

I hope this helps and good luck!

thanks for mod, rlly helpful

[B A D] wrote:

Hi, my name is Jeff
Let's go

Guide

Black text: Ghost note/Note that even when i put playback rate down to 25%, I still couldn't here a thing
Red text: Missing note
Blue text: Change the pattern
Pink text: Others

Overall

Too many jacks in the last diff that it doesn't even fun any more. Do you want this to be the next AiAe of osu!mania? actually, yes
Some pattern are the same in 2 or more difficults. Consider changing it to make your beatmap to have more variety of notes arrangement more fun

sory i cant change last diff, cuz it is the main diff, i made that before other diffs, and Awakened is my main reason to continue modding this map

SC

00:11:151 (11151|1) - Remove this
00:13:294 (13294|1) - ^
00:15:436 (15436|3) - ^
00:17:579 (17579|1) - ^actually i can hear the sound but volume rlly low. if someone point it out again i will change it
00:40:526 (40526|0,40526|1) - Switch these two notes' placement and make the LN 1/2 long
00:44:811 (44811|0,44811|1) - ^ aww sorry i think already good
01:03:204 (63204|3,63383|3,63740|3,63919|3) - Why LNs here, the music didn't change too much that you use LNs here. Consider changing it to NM note aww sorry thats for piano. anyway thanks i will add that too in SHD
01:11:895 (71895|1,72014|0,72014|0) - These notes make no sense, remove this
01:12:252 (72252|1,72371|2,72609|3,72728|1) - ^ polyrhythm
01:39:722 (99722|3) - Add a note here fixed
01:43:561 (103561|0,103561|1) - Remove 1 of these 2 notes. The bass doesn't extremely stressed there to use a triple i did that a lot before... thats for something-like-clap sound
01:56:776 (116776|3,116776|1,116865|2,116865|0,116954|1,116954|3,117044|0,117044|2,117133|1,117133|3,117222|2,117311|3,117311|1,117401|2,117401|0,117490|1,117490|3,117579|0,117579|2,117669|1,117669|3,117758|2,117847|3,117847|1,117936|0,117936|2,118026|1,118026|3,118115|2,118115|0,118204|1,118204|3,118294|0,118294|2,118383|3,118383|1,118472|2,118472|0,118561|1,118561|3,118651|0,118651|2,118740|3,118740|1,118829|2,118919|0,118919|3,119008|1,119008|2,119097|3,119097|0,119186|2,119186|1,119276|3,119276|0,119365|1,119454|0,119454|3,119544|1,119544|2,119633|3,119633|0,119722|2,119722|1,119811|0,119811|3,119901|1,119990|3,119990|0,120079|2,120079|1,120169|0,120169|3,120258|2,120258|1,120347|0,120347|3,120436|1,120436|2,120526|3,120526|0,120615|2,120615|1,120704|3,120704|0,120794|1,120794|2) - I dislike this pattern. There is no need to use LNs here. No violin, no long stretching sound, just NM base. Consider remake this partaww sorry thats for piano and variations. i hate common ranked patterns. theyre boring and less challenging to read

Advice

Consider delete the last diff lol no way thx for advice because with that diff, it is really hard to get this map ranked and it is not really fun to play with too

GL for ranking, big Voez fan here
Edit: forgot to color some text

riunosk wrote:

decided to mod SHD and Awakened instead since im quite free atm

Supa Hard Deefeeculty

00:20:347 (20347|1) - i suggest moving to 3 and changing to LN instead for playability wat... thats playable for sure and follow the extended sound until the next triple [i will think again bout that
00:28:204 (28204|1,28204|3,28294|2,28383|1) - suggested patternRearranged but different
00:33:026 (33026|1,33204|1,33383|1,33561|1,33740|1,33919|1) - anchor here fixed
00:45:704 (45704|1,45883|1,46061|1,46240|1,46419|1) - ^ fixed
00:52:044 (52044|1,52222|1,52401|1,52579|1,52758|1,52936|1) - ^Fixed
00:53:472 (53472|2,53651|2,53829|2,54008|2,54186|2,54365|2) - ^Fiixed
01:30:704 (90704|3,90704|0,90764|1,90764|2,90823|3,90823|0,90883|1,90883|2,90942|3,90942|0,91002|2,91002|1) - i highly suggest changing this into 12 34 jtrill style for much better playability i will think again bout dat
02:01:061 - i feel that the SVs are too strong for weak sounds like this, maybe reduce them to 1.3 or something thx. gonna fix them :>
02:06:419 (126419|2,126419|3,126419|0,126419|1) - maybe change to double and add 2 more notes at 3 4 that follows the piano?applied, gonna do that to other diff too
i noticed the HP is 9.2 but awakening and sc is lower than 9, intentional or accidental?intentional cuz awakened with 9+ HP is insanely unplayable

wake me up inside

for this difficulty, i'll be very blunt, i find this overmapped in terms of massively excessive jacking sorry thats my mapping style . the quads dont seem to fit with the track although the pattern would make sense for the quads to be around. im unable to mod this due to me not familiar with this kind of mapping so i'll shoot one star as compensation

j a c k g a l o r e

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

As Requested in Crumpey's mod Queue

MX, HD

cols = 1|2|3|4

MX(Mod
00:18:204 (18204|2) - potential for a nice stream instead of a boring Ln right here. fixed, stream arranged
00:40:526 (40526|1,40704|1) - id avoid things like this, really hard to hit whoa thats the challenge, i will reconsider that
00:44:811 (44811|1,44990|1) - same as above
00:54:454 (54454|2,54633|2) - Same, it just so easy to mess up on them, although not objectively wrong, imo its better without them
01:12:847 (72847|0,72907|2,72966|0,73026|2,73085|0,73145|2,73204|0,73264|2,73323|0,73383|2,73442|0,73502|2) - try a pattern thats easier on the hands utilizing all 4 columns, thats super hard to hit. i will reconsider bout that, if i changed it to use 4 columns it will become boring af
01:13:919 - So much potential for some streams, yet theres no notes here? break after 1/6 trill
01:37:490 (97490|1,98026|2,103919|2,104454|1,104990|2,105526|3,106061|1,106597|2,107133|1) - these lns dont feel like they are adding to the song at all, just have streams in that area imo background sound, cant really hear that but i think thats good

HD(Mod)
Feels and looks way too similar to mx, compare the diffs and i suggest changing them up a bit, HD just feels like MX with less notes imo it is a bit different actally, theres no 1/2 LN Jack
01:56:776
(116776|0,116865|1,116954|2,117044|3,117133|2,117222|0,117311|1,117401|2,117490|3,117579|2,117669|1,117758|2,117847|3,117936|2,118026|1,118115|0,118204|3,118294|2,118383|1,118472|0,118561|2,118651|1,118740|0,118829|1,118919|2,119008|0,119097|1,119186|3,119276|2,119365|0,119454|1,119544|3,119633|2,119722|0,119811|3,119901|2,119990|0,120079|1,120169|2,120258|3,120347|0,120436|1,120526|2,120615|3,120704|0) - wouldnt suggest this in a 3* song gonna reconsider dat, but for now i still choose hard pattern + low HP

Awakened Attempt
This feels waaaaaay too overmapped, there are some songs that just arnt meant to be a high starred song as it wont make sense.
Imo to keep this diff it will need an overhaul, the quads in the beginning arnt needed, and there are waaaaay too many jacks, imo, i would probably remove the diff. aww sorry bout the alien patterns, and sorry for being stubborn, i just want to rank that

Overall solid map

thanks for the mod

1. 00:01:062 (1062|3,1062|1,1062|0,1240|3,1240|1,1240|0,1597|3,1597|1,1597|0,1776|3,1776|1,1776|0,2133|3,2133|1,2133|0,2311|3,2311|1,2311|0,2669|3,2669|1,2669|0,3026|3,3026|1,3026|2,3204|2,3204|0,3204|1,3383|2,3383|0,3383|1,3740|2,3740|0,3740|1,3919|2,3919|0,3919|1,4276|2,4276|0,4276|1,4454|2,4454|0,4454|1,4811|0,4811|2,4811|1,5169|0,5169|2,5169|1,5347|2,5347|3,5347|1,5526|2,5526|3,5526|1,5883|2,5883|3,5883|1,6061|2,6061|3,6061|1,6419|2,6419|3,6419|1,6597|2,6597|3,6597|1,6954|2,6954|3,6954|1,7311|2,7311|3,7311|1,7490|3,7490|0,7490|2,7669|3,7669|0,7669|2,8026|3,8026|0,8026|2,8204|3,8204|0,8204|2,8561|2,8561|0,8561|1,8740|2,8740|0,8740|1,9097|2,9097|0,9097|1,9454|1,9454|0,9454|2) - 1 note aja yg di hitsound, terlalu keras
2. 00:09:633 (9633|0,9633|1,9633|3,9633|2,9722|3,9722|2,9811|1,9811|0,9811|3,9811|2,9901|1,9901|0,9990|3,9990|2,10169|0,10169|1,10169|3,10169|2,10258|0,10258|2,10347|1,10347|0,10347|3,10347|2,10436|3,10436|1,10526|0,10526|2,10704|0,10704|1,10704|2,10704|3,10794|3,10794|0,10883|3,10883|1,10883|2,10883|0,10972|1,10972|2,11061|3,11061|0,11240|0,11240|1,11240|2,11240|3,11329|0,11329|1,11419|3,11419|2,11508|1,11508|0,11597|1,11597|0,11597|2,11597|3,11686|3,11686|2,11776|3,11776|1,11776|2,11776|0,11865|0,11865|1,11954|1,11954|3,11954|2,11954|0,12044|3,12044|2,12133|0,12133|1,12311|3,12311|1,12311|0,12311|2,12401|1,12401|3,12490|2,12490|3,12490|0,12490|1,12579|2,12579|0,12669|1,12669|3,12847|3,12847|1,12847|0,12847|2,12936|2,12936|1,13026|1,13026|3,13026|2,13026|0,13115|3,13115|0,13204|2,13204|1,13383|2,13383|0,13383|1,13383|3,13472|3,13472|2,13561|1,13561|0,13651|3,13651|2,13740|0,13740|2,13740|1,13740|3,13829|0,13829|1,13919|3,13919|0,13919|1,13919|2,14008|2,14008|3,14097|0,14097|3,14097|1,14097|2,14186|0,14186|1,14276|2,14276|3,14454|3,14454|0,14454|1,14454|2,14544|3,14544|0,14633|0,14633|3,14633|2,14633|1,14722|1,14722|2,14811|3,14811|0,14990|3,14990|0,14990|1,14990|2,15079|1,15079|3,15169|0,15169|3,15169|2,15169|1,15258|0,15258|2,15347|1,15347|3,15526|3,15526|0,15526|1,15526|2,15615|1,15615|0,15704|3,15704|2,15794|0,15794|1,15883|0,15883|3,15883|2,15883|1,15972|3,15972|2,16061|1,16061|0,16061|2,16061|3,16151|1,16151|0,16240|0,16240|1,16240|2,16240|3,16329|3,16329|2,16419|0,16419|1,16597|1,16597|0,16597|2,16597|3,16686|0,16686|2,16776|1,16776|2,16776|3,16776|0,16865|3,16865|1,16954|2,16954|0,17133|1,17133|0,17133|2,17133|3,17222|1,17222|2,17311|1,17311|0,17311|2,17311|3,17401|3,17401|0,17490|2,17490|1,17669|1,17669|2,17669|3,17669|0,17758|3,17758|2,17847|0,17847|1,17936|3,17936|2,18026|3,18026|2,18026|0,18026|1,18115|1,18115|0,18204|0,18204|3,18204|2,18204|1) - tooooooo wadooo panjang bgt anjay:'u
3. 00:20:347 (20347|3,20347|0) - ini jg 1 aja
4. 1 time line 1 aja hitsoundnya. jd gk balapan ama mp3 nya. hmm
5. yaila irc aja dah, poke me in game. saran, mending pake custom hitsound deh.

Abraxos wrote:

hi i was stalking a friend of mine for their mods and i came across this map and i think i aged 20 years and got 23 more wrinkle lines on my forehead

Leonita wrote:

hi owo
[Hitsound Awakened]

1. 00:01:062 (1062|3,1062|1,1062|0,1240|3,1240|1,1240|0,1597|3,1597|1,1597|0,1776|3,1776|1,1776|0,2133|3,2133|1,2133|0,2311|3,2311|1,2311|0,2669|3,2669|1,2669|0,3026|3,3026|1,3026|2,3204|2,3204|0,3204|1,3383|2,3383|0,3383|1,3740|2,3740|0,3740|1,3919|2,3919|0,3919|1,4276|2,4276|0,4276|1,4454|2,4454|0,4454|1,4811|0,4811|2,4811|1,5169|0,5169|2,5169|1,5347|2,5347|3,5347|1,5526|2,5526|3,5526|1,5883|2,5883|3,5883|1,6061|2,6061|3,6061|1,6419|2,6419|3,6419|1,6597|2,6597|3,6597|1,6954|2,6954|3,6954|1,7311|2,7311|3,7311|1,7490|3,7490|0,7490|2,7669|3,7669|0,7669|2,8026|3,8026|0,8026|2,8204|3,8204|0,8204|2,8561|2,8561|0,8561|1,8740|2,8740|0,8740|1,9097|2,9097|0,9097|1,9454|1,9454|0,9454|2) - 1 note aja yg di hitsound, terlalu keras
2. 00:09:633 (9633|0,9633|1,9633|3,9633|2,9722|3,9722|2,9811|1,9811|0,9811|3,9811|2,9901|1,9901|0,9990|3,9990|2,10169|0,10169|1,10169|3,10169|2,10258|0,10258|2,10347|1,10347|0,10347|3,10347|2,10436|3,10436|1,10526|0,10526|2,10704|0,10704|1,10704|2,10704|3,10794|3,10794|0,10883|3,10883|1,10883|2,10883|0,10972|1,10972|2,11061|3,11061|0,11240|0,11240|1,11240|2,11240|3,11329|0,11329|1,11419|3,11419|2,11508|1,11508|0,11597|1,11597|0,11597|2,11597|3,11686|3,11686|2,11776|3,11776|1,11776|2,11776|0,11865|0,11865|1,11954|1,11954|3,11954|2,11954|0,12044|3,12044|2,12133|0,12133|1,12311|3,12311|1,12311|0,12311|2,12401|1,12401|3,12490|2,12490|3,12490|0,12490|1,12579|2,12579|0,12669|1,12669|3,12847|3,12847|1,12847|0,12847|2,12936|2,12936|1,13026|1,13026|3,13026|2,13026|0,13115|3,13115|0,13204|2,13204|1,13383|2,13383|0,13383|1,13383|3,13472|3,13472|2,13561|1,13561|0,13651|3,13651|2,13740|0,13740|2,13740|1,13740|3,13829|0,13829|1,13919|3,13919|0,13919|1,13919|2,14008|2,14008|3,14097|0,14097|3,14097|1,14097|2,14186|0,14186|1,14276|2,14276|3,14454|3,14454|0,14454|1,14454|2,14544|3,14544|0,14633|0,14633|3,14633|2,14633|1,14722|1,14722|2,14811|3,14811|0,14990|3,14990|0,14990|1,14990|2,15079|1,15079|3,15169|0,15169|3,15169|2,15169|1,15258|0,15258|2,15347|1,15347|3,15526|3,15526|0,15526|1,15526|2,15615|1,15615|0,15704|3,15704|2,15794|0,15794|1,15883|0,15883|3,15883|2,15883|1,15972|3,15972|2,16061|1,16061|0,16061|2,16061|3,16151|1,16151|0,16240|0,16240|1,16240|2,16240|3,16329|3,16329|2,16419|0,16419|1,16597|1,16597|0,16597|2,16597|3,16686|0,16686|2,16776|1,16776|2,16776|3,16776|0,16865|3,16865|1,16954|2,16954|0,17133|1,17133|0,17133|2,17133|3,17222|1,17222|2,17311|1,17311|0,17311|2,17311|3,17401|3,17401|0,17490|2,17490|1,17669|1,17669|2,17669|3,17669|0,17758|3,17758|2,17847|0,17847|1,17936|3,17936|2,18026|3,18026|2,18026|0,18026|1,18115|1,18115|0,18204|0,18204|3,18204|2,18204|1) - tooooooo wadooo panjang bgt anjay:'u
3. 00:20:347 (20347|3,20347|0) - ini jg 1 aja
4. 1 time line 1 aja hitsoundnya. jd gk balapan ama mp3 nya. hmm
5. yaila irc aja dah, poke me in game. saran, mending pake custom hitsound deh.

kalo kamu mau irc, no kudos ampe aku post irc an nya. tapi kalo kamu gmw irc, sorry cmn segini checking hitsoundnya teserah mau di kudos/ndak. gdluck!

genkicho wrote:

i dont think it being your "mapping style" gives you excuse to do 01:06:419 (66419|0,66419|2,66419|1,66419|3,66508|2,66508|3,66597|3,66597|1,66597|0,66597|2) - patterning like this, because of a few reasons actually what are those reasons? my map my pattern, no reason no change

genkicho wrote:

i have, and i always tested it and trying to make it good.

Rivals_7 wrote:

genkicho wrote:

i dont think it being your "mapping style" gives you excuse to do 01:06:419 (66419|0,66419|2,66419|1,66419|3,66508|2,66508|3,66597|3,66597|1,66597|0,66597|2) - patterning like this, because of a few reasons actually what are those reasons? my map my pattern, no reason no change

you should state your reason about why are you chosing that kind of pattern. If you dont even know what are you doing.... You can say goodbye to the ranked section.


https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Code_of_Conduct ... nd_Mapping
We have a CoC which is must be followed. If not, then BNs have a reason to not push this forward by any means.

genkicho wrote:

i have, and i always tested it and trying to make it good.

Really, give me a pic of yours with an S on awakened well i cant pass it :/
If you think it doesnt play good on yours, then the others wil probably have the same thinking.
Dont say this map is for the top Players. Its not a valid reasoning.

Dont take this as an attack, we're the community are helping you to push your map. quit being such a stubborn and think professionally. aw i really need some help on this problem srsly.. whats wrong with me :/

peace.

genkicho wrote:

Abraxos wrote:

hi i was stalking a friend of mine for their mods and i came across this map and i think i aged 20 years and got 23 more wrinkle lines on my forehead

i dont think it being your "mapping style" gives you excuse to do 01:06:419 (66419|0,66419|2,66419|1,66419|3,66508|2,66508|3,66597|3,66597|1,66597|0,66597|2) - patterning like this, because of a few reasons actually what are those reasons? my map my pattern, no reason no change the reasons are below!

01:48:204 - the chorus is not within the same bounds of intensity as 00:09:633 - the start, which doesnt make a lot of sense because i can very clearly and objectively state that the chorus is in a higher plane of intensity as the beginning, given all the high pitched violins and increased drum/bass volumesorry, so when is the chorus? please read, "01:48:204 - the chorus is not " this indicates that the chorus is at 1:48, i.e. the kiai time you placed! and im very certain people normally placed kiai time at the chorus, am i wrong on that?

01:53:561 - this part is just completely spiteful to everyone in question, why are you just using [12] [34] and [1234]s repeatedly when theres so much going on the music? if you wanted to just chart the drum and bass then go chart metal or something idk you like drums a lot dont you emphasizing every single bass beat sound with a double thx, gonna give another variation, any suggestion? guess no hmmmmmm
few things you can do
1) declutter the layering, i.e. dont double every single bass beat you see
2) focus more on the violin pulls in the music, i.e. 01:48:204 - 01:48:740 - 01:48:919 - 01:49:097 -
3) focus more on the piano beats in the music, i.e. 01:49:722 - 01:49:811 - 01:49:901 - 01:49:990 -(last one 01:09:276 - is kinda an anomaly, there are two main beats here; the hihats, and the main piano beat, and funnily enough the main piano beats fall on the same tick with the hihats 90% of the time, with the other 10% being unemphasized which is kinda odd dontcha think)

its kinda late now and i can very much give pattern suggestions here and there but i dont really feel like im up for it right now; maybe you can pm me through the forums as a way for a reminder and all so id get back to you; this is if you yourself cant think of a better pattern given whatever i said before so (pretty sure you can)




01:48:204 (108204|3,108204|2,108383|1,108383|0) - these LNs are horrible to play, dealing with simultaneously repeatedly pressing a button and holding down them is not something i want to do every day, and not what i want to do in your map i didnt ask you to play this map if you dont like it. btw those are on different hands. sure, i didnt have to play it since i dont like it, but the map was offensive enough to me that i decided that i needed to discuss with you your intentions and your processes behind mapping, because it concerns me

they being on different hands does not change the fact that we, as players, are still "simultaneously repeatedly pressing a button and holding down them"
i can wager with you can on 168 bpm, a patterning that invovles such a quick switch between holding down a button and repeatedly pressing is not very fun to hit at all - of course you can deny this and say its fine, which is actually fine by me since a lot of things on here are somewhat intersubjective anyway

this isnt much of a problem of it being unbalanced, or it being overmapped really - its about you understanding what is actually fun, and what is frustrating to play and nail down(or in plain english not fun) - and personally speaking looking at your sloppy justification for such patterning ("its my mapping style") i can say with 100% certainty you do not have the player in mind at all i have, and i always tested it and trying to make it good. - is that what you really want to do? second hmmmmm

theres always this sense of bias that comes along when you playtest your own map - i mean, its very obvious everyone at least somewhat thinks well of themselves so you might be biased on the point here

i was in a conversation with a rank 450~ player with this chart actually (dont really want to pull names in here), and he himself has a good history of dealing with jack maps - to rephrase what he said,
" ending spikes really badly in difficulty, the LNs in the ending too make it hard to play"
perhaps theres no weight to this since i dont have the transcript but you can take this as you will, i personally cant exactly play the chart (a pass is viable at least) and to me the current patterning, even with the lack of playing ability, seems to ignore the essence of the music itself and carries a ton of artificial-smelling difficulty in it

have fun, i dont think i need to reply to you - i just need to hear what you have to say
kds or not i dont really care

this is too much offense and not constructive at all. i know i need variations, but give some suggestion. you came here just to attack me,
not modding my map. no kudos alright, forgot that people took things too emotionally on here sometimes wop wop

*edit : btw yea thats my mapping style, idk whats wrong with me. can solve this problem? ye! just dont be so pissy and all because of how i apparently seem to be aggressive (guess its to be expected, everyone likes to be buttered up even in criticism) and ill be willing to discuss further with you on how to approach and deal with the problems i have with the mapset

genkicho wrote:

Abraxos wrote:

hi i was stalking a friend of mine for their mods and i came across this map and i think i aged 20 years and got 23 more wrinkle lines on my forehead

whaw sorry for taking that as offense, idk what happened to me.

Peace ;>

gekicho wrote:

oh lol yea i sorry bout that rule, and sorry bout that. i just cant hold it, cuz i just wanted to rank a map for long time, and never happened. ranking is a long process, be patient and youll be duly rewarded i promise you

Here the reason for the nonsense patterns , (some reason might sound nonsense) :
- I love that kind of pattern even i cant play it well, idk why
- I want to rank something different and unique, thats why im still working on this map till now :<
- There are only few 5*+ maps, and some of them are overrated, i just want to rank something not overrated
- Many ppl around me say and think that 4K is easy, i just want to prove 4k isnt (this might be nonsense or stoopid)
- Many modders here say that hard patterns dont fit with this song, but idk why i think hard patterns good for this song, maybe cuz first time i tried this song on voez, it was too hard for me, and i made it hard too here.

those are all valid reasons you know, because these are all personal perspectives on this matter and can only be refuted if you realize that the ranked section is for everyone, not only for you

it is your job to intertwine how you feel together with how everyone feels in a balanced way, and i dont think its fair to the people who achieved that same balance by pushing this mapset to rank in its current state because you feel invalidated and have your own personal goal of the ranked section

feel free to continue on with the mapset with the current patterns, but dont be surprised if there is severe backlash because your beliefs clash with the thoughts of the players in ranked

Abraxos wrote:

hi i was stalking a friend of mine for their mods and i came across this map and i think i aged 20 years and got 23 more wrinkle lines on my forehead

Abraxos wrote:

im blue in color btw


i dont think it being your "mapping style" gives you excuse to do 01:06:419 (66419|0,66419|2,66419|1,66419|3,66508|2,66508|3,66597|3,66597|1,66597|0,66597|2) - patterning like this, because of a few reasons actually what are those reasons? my map my pattern, no reason no change the reasons are below!

01:48:204 - the chorus is not within the same bounds of intensity as 00:09:633 - the start, which doesnt make a lot of sense because i can very clearly and objectively state that the chorus is in a higher plane of intensity as the beginning, given all the high pitched violins and increased drum/bass volumesorry, so when is the chorus? please read, "01:48:204 - the chorus is not " this indicates that the chorus is at 1:48, i.e. the kiai time you placed! and im very certain people normally placed kiai time at the chorus, am i wrong on that? yea i usually do it that way :/

01:53:561 - this part is just completely spiteful to everyone in question, why are you just using [12] [34] and [1234]s repeatedly when theres so much going on the music? if you wanted to just chart the drum and bass then go chart metal or something idk you like drums a lot dont you emphasizing every single bass beat sound with a double thx, gonna give another variation, any suggestion? guess no hmmmmmm
few things you can do
1) declutter the layering, i.e. dont double every single bass beat you see
2) focus more on the violin pulls in the music, i.e. 01:48:204 - 01:48:740 - 01:48:919 - 01:49:097 - [color=#FF00FF]thx for suggestion, i keep the pattern there, but i will map the violin here 01:49:276 - 01:49:633 - 01:49:990
3) focus more on the piano beats in the music, i.e. 01:49:722 - 01:49:811 - 01:49:901 - 01:49:990 -(last one 01:09:276 - is kinda an anomaly, there are two main beats here; the hihats, and the main piano beat, and funnily enough the main piano beats fall on the same tick with the hihats 90% of the time, with the other 10% being unemphasized which is kinda odd dontcha think) yea, thx. i gonna LN violin + note piano

its kinda late now and i can very much give pattern suggestions here and there but i dont really feel like im up for it right now; maybe you can pm me through the forums as a way for a reminder and all so id get back to you; this is if you yourself cant think of a better pattern given whatever i said before so (pretty sure you can)
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01:48:204 (108204|3,108204|2,108383|1,108383|0) - these LNs are horrible to play, dealing with simultaneously repeatedly pressing a button and holding down them is not something i want to do every day, and not what i want to do in your map i didnt ask you to play this map if you dont like it. btw those are on different hands. sure, i didnt have to play it since i dont like it, but the map was offensive enough to me that i decided that i needed to discuss with you your intentions and your processes behind mapping, because it concerns me

they being on different hands does not change the fact that we, as players, are still "simultaneously repeatedly pressing a button and holding down them"
i can wager with you can on 168 bpm, a patterning that invovles such a quick switch between holding down a button and repeatedly pressing is not very fun to hit at all - of course you can deny this and say its fine, which is actually fine by me since a lot of things on here are somewhat intersubjective anyway ok then gonna work on it,

this isnt much of a problem of it being unbalanced, or it being overmapped really - its about you understanding what is actually fun, and what is frustrating to play and nail down(or in plain english not fun) - and personally speaking looking at your sloppy justification for such patterning ("its my mapping style") i can say with 100% certainty you do not have the player in mind at all i have, and i always tested it and trying to make it good. - is that what you really want to do? second hmmmmm

theres always this sense of bias that comes along when you playtest your own map - i mean, its very obvious everyone at least somewhat thinks well of themselves so you might be biased on the point here

i was in a conversation with a rank 446 player with this chart actually (dont really want to pull names in here), and he himself has a good history of dealing with jack maps - to rephrase what he said,
" ending spikes really badly in difficulty, the LNs in the ending too make it hard to play"
perhaps theres no weight to this since i dont have the transcript but you can take this as you will, i personally cant exactly play the chart (a pass is viable at least) and to me the current patterning, even with the lack of playing ability, seems to ignore the essence of the music itself and carries a ton of artificial-smelling difficulty in it

have fun, i dont think i need to reply to you - i just need to hear what you have to say
kds or not i dont really care

genkicho wrote:

rlly thanks for mod, this is very helpful, i reworked so much on last part. aww sorry i was too emotional. idk whats wrong with me ::<< thats fine, live and learn

*note : gonna submit update after finished reworking some new patterns and hitsounds

edit : wew sorry i didnt read that "dont continue reply" looo if theres anything you need clarification on the feel free to PM me and ill get back to you as soon as i can

LordTimeWaste wrote:

From my modding queue

Just to clarify this, if i say something about 0/1/2/3, i mean the 4 keys you are using for playing (1 = most left key, 4 = most right key).
Anyways, let's go!!!

SHD

00:05:169 - Change the pattern so it is different as the one before and the one after it
00:07:311 - ^^applied
00:09:097 (9097|2,9097|1,9097|0,9454|1,9454|2,9454|0) - This tripples bouth sound different then the sound before, i would rearrange them wait.. theyre same :/ .. or my speaker?
00:20:347 - LN untill 00:21:776 applied
00:50:526 (50526|2,50615|3,50704|0,50704|1,50704|2,50794|3,50883|2,50972|1,51061|3,51061|2,51151|1,51240|0) - Please rearrange these since they seem pretty unbalanced, you mapped nearly nothing here at 0 fixed
00:52:044 (52044|3,52044|0,52133|0,52133|2,52133|1) - Made a mistake here? i think the double shouldn't be here nah, the double same like here 00:49:901 (49901|1,49901|0) - 00:47:758 (47758|3,47758|1) - etc
00:54:454 - Here should be a double, i think applied
00:55:347 - ^^ fixed
01:13:919 - Would map the long piano sound with LN's, but just a suggestionwutt i mapped the piano

Really good map, had nearly nothing to critisize. Good Luck!

Rizevim wrote:

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17:36 Rizevim: 01:12:907 (72907|2,73026|2,73145|2,73264|2,73383|2,73502|2) - pindah ke col 4 aj
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17:37 Rizevim: 01:16:061 (76061|2) - ga LN aj?
17:37 Rizevim: 01:18:204 (78204|1) - ^
17:38 Rizevim: 01:20:347 (80347|0) - ^
17:38 genkicho: ln nya buat ini
17:38 genkicho: 01:21:419 (81419|0) -
17:38 Rizevim: gue denger sih suarany enakan LN :/
17:38 Rizevim: well it's up to u
17:39 Rizevim: 01:47:669 - missing notes?
17:40 Rizevim: dari suara ny sampe ke 01:48:115 - :/
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17:44 *Rizevim is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1029907 ICE - citanLu [SC]]
17:44 genkicho: ea HAHA
17:45 genkicho: pusing dah tuu
17:45 Rizevim: 00:40:526 (40526|1) - pindah ke col1?
17:45 Rizevim: 00:40:526 (40526|0) - pindah ke col4?
17:45 Rizevim: ato col 2 jg blh
17:45 genkicho: tydac
17:45 genkicho: 00:40:526 (40526|1) -
17:45 genkicho: sama 00:40:704 (40704|1) -
17:45 genkicho: suaranya sama
17:45 Rizevim: hmm
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17:46 Rizevim: ato gnti jd notes biasa?
17:46 genkicho: jgn wkkw
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17:49 Rizevim: dah
17:49 Rizevim: lanjut
17:49 *Rizevim is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1042951 ICE - citanLu [SHD]]
17:49 genkicho: ea haha
17:49 Rizevim: dah bagus sisany
17:49 genkicho: nah mulai galau SHD kwkwkw
17:49 Rizevim: wkwk
17:50 Rizevim: 00:39:276 (39276|2,39276|0,39365|1,39454|0,39454|3,39544|2,39633|0,39633|3) - dafuq XD
17:51 genkicho: fixed wkwkkw
17:51 genkicho: ntah drmana bkn gw yg buat kwkw
17:51 Rizevim: awkwakawk
17:51 Rizevim: parah
17:53 Rizevim: 01:58:383 (118383|1) - move to col4?
17:54 genkicho: sengaja itu di minijack
17:54 Rizevim: hm
17:54 Rizevim: okay
17:54 Rizevim: lanjut
17:54 genkicho: sama kyk gini
17:54 genkicho: 00:11:508 (11508|2,11508|1,11597|2,11597|0,11686|1,11686|3) -
17:54 Rizevim: ya
17:54 *Rizevim is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1029904 ICE - citanLu [Awakened]]
17:54 Rizevim: bisa mod kgk ya
17:54 Rizevim: awkwak
17:54 genkicho: HAHA
17:54 genkicho: galauu
17:54 Rizevim: mapper nya aja gabisa pass :V
17:54 Rizevim: AWKAWKWAK
17:54 genkicho: liat ja patternnya
17:55 genkicho: ee :v
17:55 genkicho: gw perna pass 1x
17:55 Rizevim: pake no fail
17:55 Rizevim: :V
17:55 genkicho: gak :v
17:55 Rizevim: kirain
17:56 Rizevim: 01:04:454 (64454|2) - knp g dganti LN aj?
17:56 Rizevim: biar sama kyk 01:04:276 (64276|2) -
17:57 Rizevim: 01:04:276 (64276|2) - ctrl+j biar ena :V
17:57 genkicho: suara pianonya gak kedengeran
17:57 Rizevim: hm
17:57 Rizevim: masa sih
17:58 genkicho: 01:04:276 (64276|1,64276|3,64276|2,64454|2,64454|3,64454|1) -
17:58 genkicho: sama kyk 01:03:740 (63740|0,63740|3,63740|1,63919|3,63919|0,63919|1) -
17:58 genkicho: triple same column x2
17:58 genkicho: triple sisanya kepotong sama
17:58 Rizevim: anjeg wakawk akhir"ny
17:58 genkicho: 01:04:633 (64633|0,64722|1,64811|2,64811|3,64901|0,64990|1,65079|2,65169|0,65169|3,65258|1) -
17:59 genkicho: JGN LIHAT HAHA
17:59 Rizevim: parah awkawkwa
17:59 Rizevim: nyiksa lu
17:59 genkicho: seru nyiksaa
17:59 genkicho: top 50 HT smua HAHA
18:00 Rizevim: oke :V
18:00 Rizevim: ez nm hd mod juga gk?:V
18:00 Rizevim: kemungkinan udh bagus sih :V
18:00 genkicho: gausa uda bener itu mah wkwk
18:00 Rizevim: oke
18:00 genkicho: wkkw ty
18:00 Rizevim: siapp
18:00 genkicho: gw off dl
18:00 Rizevim: post ya

TheNewBungping wrote:

Hi from my modding queue TheNewBungping's 4Keys O!Mania GD/Modding Queue [OPEN]

1|2|3|4

Awakened

Pls change jack patterns to be more easier, especially 00:09:633 - 00:18:204 and 01:05:347 - 01:12:847 and on 01:22:490 - 01:31:061 i will think again bout dat

00:30:526 - 00:31:061 Like this for it to be more playable https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406606 applied

01:12:847 - 01:13:919 If I were you, I would ignore piano sound here and only play drum dat polyrhythm part feels good trust me

01:39:276 Remove note on 3 01:38:561 (98561|2,98561|3,98561|1,98561|0) - 01:38:919 (98919|2,98919|3,98919|0) - 01:39:276 (99276|0,99276|2,99276|1,99276|3) - 01:39:633 (99633|2,99633|0,99633|1) - are supposed to be quads, but some are triple for some reason, that one is ok i guess cuz 12 1234 34

02:01:061 - 02:03:026 Pls go according to the heaviness like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406656 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406658 that would make it easier than SHD >.>

02:03:919 Remove note on 1 and 2 for now i will keep it liek dat

I'm gonna shoot 2 stars for this map, good luck on ranked

tatatat wrote:

Why do you have two backgrounds files? Don't include unused files in your mapset's folder.

qqqant wrote:

Hey~ I stumbled across your map probably from your GHOST map and I've just gotten to actually play through it now. Here's a mod
--please note that I am not very experienced with modding, and if this post isn't helpful, no kudos. can't guarantee quality, etc.

regarding spread (short comment)

Your SC diff is 4.76, SHD 5.07, and Awakened 5.36. These numbers are extremely close together with about .3 difference between each diff. i noticed a lot of stuff is copypasta (SC and SHD) so the spread really needs to be fixed - I would remove Awakened and buff SHD a bit in certain places but it's your map so you do what you think needs to be done

SHD(full mod)

let me just get this out of the way first- overall i'm not sure whether SHD diff should contain so much minijack with such low SR. i understand your intention of creating underrated maps but i thinks this is way too much. also, some of the minijacks are pretty unjustifiable...i know you want to #rankhardermaps but i don't think this is the kind of song to do that with... and the LNs near the end are far from comfortable and readable, too.. :') either remove the LNs completely or lower the HP

anyways, the remainder of this SHD mod will not take the SR into consideration at all~

and are you sure about the default hitsounding? ;-;?


00:02:669 (2669|1,2669|0) - why the LN placement here? there's no other sound that distinguishes this chord from the other ones
00:09:633 (9633|2,9633|3,9811|2,9811|3,9990|3,9990|2,10169|2,10169|3,10347|2,10347|3,10526|3,10526|2,10704|3,10704|2,10883|3,10883|2,11061|3,11061|2) - this is really uncomfortable for the right hand, consider switching the patterns up
00:11:508 (11508|2,11597|2) - i understand there is nothing else you can do here but this is extremely awkward, you could just do something like what you did here 00:13:383 (13383|3,13383|0,13472|1,13472|2,13561|0,13561|3,13651|1,13651|0,13740|3,13740|2,13829|1,13829|0)
00:11:597 (11597|0,11597|2,11776|2,11776|0,11954|2,11954|0,12133|2,12133|0,12311|0,12311|2,12490|2,12490|0,12669|2,12669|0,12847|0,12847|2,13026|2,13026|0,13204|0,13204|2) - the same as above except uncomfortable for both hands now
00:13:919 (13919|2,13919|1,14097|2,14097|1,14276|1,14276|2,14454|2,14454|1,14633|1,14633|2,14811|2,14811|1,14990|2,14990|1,15169|1,15169|2,15347|2,15347|1) - same problem
00:15:704 (15704|0,15794|0,15972|0,16061|0) - switch up the columns in which the minijacks occur
00:16:061 (16061|0,16061|1,16240|0,16240|1,16419|0,16419|1,16597|0,16597|1,16776|0,16776|1,16954|0,16954|1,17133|0,17133|1,17311|0,17311|1,17490|0,17490|1) - same problem as earlier
00:18:115 (18115|0,18204|0,18294|0) - very, very uncomfortable especially because of this 00:18:115 (18115|1,18204|1) consider moving this note 00:18:294 (18294|0) - to another column preferably on the right hand so that it's more comfortable for both hands to play
00:20:347 (20347|1,20347|3) - why the LNs let go at different times but in Awakened diff let go at the same time? consistency, you should only have one or the other
00:22:133 (22133|0,22133|3,22133|1) - in my opinion the hand clap sound should not be mapped with a triple/hand chord
understand the triple/hand at 00:22:490, but why a triple at 00:22:847? the rest of them are all doubles/jumps so i dont really understand the triple there or what sound its mapping that is not heard in the other chords.
00:24:186 (24186|1,24276|0,24365|1,24454|0,24544|1,24633|0,24722|1,24811|0) - uncomfortable for the left hand while the right hand doesnt do as much, Ctrl+H these two notes 00:24:722 (24722|1,24811|0) or change the pattern to be like at 00:26:776 but reflected
another triple at 00:24:990 that i dont understand =w=
and 00:27:133 as well =w=
00:27:133 (27133|1,27311|1,27490|1,27669|1) - this is awkward, change this - 00:27:490 (27490|1,27490|2,27579|0,27669|1) - to something like this 00:25:704 (25704|3,25704|2,25794|1,25883|2)
00:29:990 (29990|1,29990|3,29990|2,30079|0,30169|1,30258|3,30347|1,30436|3,30526|0,30526|1,30526|2,30615|3,30704|2,30794|0) - this part is uncomfortable for me especially due to the LNs that arent on the outside column, here is a pattern i think is more comfortable, for me at least https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591869
00:32:133 (32133|1) - move right one column
00:39:276 (39276|2,39365|1,39454|2,39544|1) - D:::: here's my solution for it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591901
00:39:722 (39722|2,39811|3,39901|2,39990|3,40079|2,40169|3) - right hand uncomfort! D: here's my solution https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591918 but again, a triple at 00:39:990 that doesnt have any additional sound mapped to it
00:47:490 (47490|0,47579|1,47669|0,47758|1,47847|0,47936|1) - another uncomfort here
00:52:490 the LN section here is awkward. doable but awkward. maybe move the first LN to the right one column and it will be more comfortable
00:56:240 (56240|1,56240|0,56419|0,56419|1,56597|0,56597|1,56776|0,56776|1,56954|1,56954|0) - it's, i dont know, for lack of a better word- "lame" patterning here, switch it up a bit, like maybe the trill can be [14][23] instead of [12][34]
again, why the LN here 00:58:383 (58383|0,58383|1) and here 01:00:526 (60526|2,60526|3) and here 01:02:669 (62669|0,62669|1)
you can clearly hear the piano starting at 01:04:276, why is that sound not mapped?
the section at 01:05:347, see my earlier comments regarding similar pattern
01:12:847 (72847|0,72907|1,72966|0,73026|1,73085|0,73145|1,73204|0,73264|1,73323|0,73383|1,73442|0,73502|1,73561|0,73621|1) - are you a piano player? XD i know that trills are common like this but please don't do this especially in 4K and at this speed, just remap this section with same layering but different pattern
01:22:490 same thing here, earlier comments regarding similar pattern
just to get this out of the way this section is very good patterning 01:30:704 (90704|0,90704|3,90764|1,90823|2,90883|1,90942|0,90942|3,91002|2,91061|1,91061|0,91061|3)
now this next section at 01:31:061 i dont understand why you are mapping those sounds with LN. you can barely hear it. you can hear other sounds much clearer, like the hi-hat, and the kick at 01:33:115, please remap this section without mapping the quiet string sounds
01:35:794 (95794|1,95883|0,95972|1,96061|0,96151|1,96240|0,96329|1,96419|0,96508|1,96597|0,96686|1,96776|0,96865|1,96954|0,97044|1,97133|0,97222|1,97311|0,97401|1,97490|0,97579|1,97669|0,97758|1,97847|0) - are you a monster XD (here is my solution https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8592066&#41;
01:39:454 (99454|3,99454|0,99499|2,99544|1,99588|2,99633|0,99633|1,99633|3) - hi tidek!! by the way i like this pattern a lot please do not change
01:44:990 (104990|0,105079|1,105169|0,105258|1,105347|0,105436|1,105526|0,105615|1) - please remap, see above comments
01:47:669 (107669|0) - im assuming you are mapping the violin/string sound, but it continues longer than the LN maps
01:48:204 earlier comments regarding similar pattern
01:56:776 this part is completely undoable, change the LNs to regular notes
02:04:276 (124276|3,124276|0,124320|1,124365|2,124410|3,124454|0,124454|1,124499|2,124544|3,124588|0,124633|1,124678|3,124722|2,124767|1,124811|0,124811|3,124856|2,124901|1,124945|0,124990|2,125035|3,125079|1,125124|2,125169|1,125169|3,125213|0,125258|2,125303|1,125347|0) - who hurt you? D: this is super messy and cri and dan 9 material (here's my jumptrilly solution but i know you are not going to do this lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8592167&#41;
maybe add an LN at the end to map the whooshy sound?

Awakened (short comment)

not really a full mod just a comment, im not going to lie here this diff is really messy and i dont think this is rankable at all. again as i said in the beginning of the SHD diff, this isnt the song to make #harder4kmaps with. based on what ive seen of your mapping style (this map and GHOST), if you really want a map ranked, choose an extremely dense (music-wise) song thats around 140bpm kind of like planet shaper. it would really fit your mapping style.i wish you luck

qqqant wrote:

Hey~ I stumbled across your map probably from your GHOST map and I've just gotten to actually play through it now. Here's a mod
--please note that I am not very experienced with modding, and if this post isn't helpful, no kudos. can't guarantee quality, etc.

regarding spread (short comment)

Your SC diff is 4.76, SHD 5.07, and Awakened 5.36. These numbers are extremely close together with about .3 difference between each diff. i noticed a lot of stuff is copypasta (SC and SHD) so the spread really needs to be fixed - I would remove Awakened and buff SHD a bit in certain places but it's your map so you do what you think needs to be done okii i will try to buff SHD, but i wont remove awakened

SHD(full mod)

let me just get this out of the way first- overall i'm not sure whether SHD diff should contain so much minijack with such low SR. i understand your intention of creating underrated maps but i thinks this is way too much. also, some of the minijacks are pretty unjustifiable...i know you want to #rankhardermaps but i don't think this is the kind of song to do that with... and the LNs near the end are far from comfortable and readable, too.. :') either remove the LNs completely or lower the HP thx :> i think i gonna rework on HP and OD for all diffs, but i dont mean to rank hardest map as possible, i remapped many parts after abrax' mod, and i think the patterns are ok, and idk about that broken star rating i tried to make higher star, but i dont want to put weird pattterns

anyways, the remainder of this SHD mod will not take the SR into consideration at all~

and are you sure about the default hitsounding? ;-;? i need help at this one ;;;_;


00:02:669 (2669|1,2669|0) - why the LN placement here? there's no other sound that distinguishes this chord from the other ones same sound like 00:02:311 (2311|3,2311|0,2311|1) - but it's longer so i placed mini LN
00:09:633 (9633|2,9633|3,9811|2,9811|3,9990|3,9990|2,10169|2,10169|3,10347|2,10347|3,10526|3,10526|2,10704|3,10704|2,10883|3,10883|2,11061|3,11061|2) - this is really uncomfortable for the right hand, consider switching the patterns up so many ppl pointed that out xD okii i gonna fix that
00:11:508 (11508|2,11597|2) - i understand there is nothing else you can do here but this is extremely awkward, you could just do something like what you did here 00:13:383 (13383|3,13383|0,13472|1,13472|2,13561|0,13561|3,13651|1,13651|0,13740|3,13740|2,13829|1,13829|0) oh some pattern error there >.>
00:11:597 (11597|0,11597|2,11776|2,11776|0,11954|2,11954|0,12133|2,12133|0,12311|0,12311|2,12490|2,12490|0,12669|2,12669|0,12847|0,12847|2,13026|2,13026|0,13204|0,13204|2) - the same as above except uncomfortable for both hands now
00:13:919 (13919|2,13919|1,14097|2,14097|1,14276|1,14276|2,14454|2,14454|1,14633|1,14633|2,14811|2,14811|1,14990|2,14990|1,15169|1,15169|2,15347|2,15347|1) - same problem
00:15:704 (15704|0,15794|0,15972|0,16061|0) - switch up the columns in which the minijacks occur fixed applied for similar issues too
00:16:061 (16061|0,16061|1,16240|0,16240|1,16419|0,16419|1,16597|0,16597|1,16776|0,16776|1,16954|0,16954|1,17133|0,17133|1,17311|0,17311|1,17490|0,17490|1) - same problem as earlier
00:18:115 (18115|0,18204|0,18294|0) - very, very uncomfortable especially because of this 00:18:115 (18115|1,18204|1) consider moving this note 00:18:294 (18294|0) - to another column preferably on the right hand so that it's more comfortable for both hands to play i didnt realized datt :: fixed
00:20:347 (20347|1,20347|3) - why the LNs let go at different times but in Awakened diff let go at the same time? consistency, you should only have one or the other fixed
00:22:133 (22133|0,22133|3,22133|1) - in my opinion the hand clap sound should not be mapped with a triple/hand chord
understand the triple/hand at 00:22:490, but why a triple at 00:22:847? the rest of them are all doubles/jumps so i dont really understand the triple there or what sound its mapping that is not heard in the other chords. actually the sound is louder, theres something like clap (?) but not rlly audible,
if i map all double and single i think it would be boring and repetitive
00:24:186 (24186|1,24276|0,24365|1,24454|0,24544|1,24633|0,24722|1,24811|0) - uncomfortable for the left hand while the right hand doesnt do as much, Ctrl+H these two notes 00:24:722 (24722|1,24811|0) or change the pattern to be like at 00:26:776 but reflectedfixed
another triple at 00:24:990 that i dont understand =w=
and 00:27:133 as well =w=
00:27:133 (27133|1,27311|1,27490|1,27669|1) - this is awkward, change this - 00:27:490 (27490|1,27490|2,27579|0,27669|1) - to something like this 00:25:704 (25704|3,25704|2,25794|1,25883|2)
00:29:990 (29990|1,29990|3,29990|2,30079|0,30169|1,30258|3,30347|1,30436|3,30526|0,30526|1,30526|2,30615|3,30704|2,30794|0) - this part is uncomfortable for me especially due to the LNs that arent on the outside column, here is a pattern i think is more comfortable, for me at least https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591869 i moved them to 2 and 3 cuz they sound different from 2 previous LN sound,
00:32:133 (32133|1) - move right one column rearranged that part but different :>
00:39:276 (39276|2,39365|1,39454|2,39544|1) - D:::: here's my solution for it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591901 rearranged but a bit different
00:39:722 (39722|2,39811|3,39901|2,39990|3,40079|2,40169|3) - right hand uncomfort! D: here's my solution https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8591918 but again, a triple at 00:39:990 that doesnt have any additional sound mapped to it fixed it ^
00:47:490 (47490|0,47579|1,47669|0,47758|1,47847|0,47936|1) - another uncomfort here fixed
00:52:490 the LN section here is awkward. doable but awkward. maybe move the first LN to the right one column and it will be more comfortable rearranged + anchors fixed
00:56:240 (56240|1,56240|0,56419|0,56419|1,56597|0,56597|1,56776|0,56776|1,56954|1,56954|0) - it's, i dont know, for lack of a better word- "lame" patterning here, switch it up a bit, like maybe the trill can be [14][23] instead of [12][34] rearranged but different
again, why the LN here 00:58:383 (58383|0,58383|1) and here 01:00:526 (60526|2,60526|3) and here 01:02:669 (62669|0,62669|1)
you can clearly hear the piano starting at 01:04:276, why is that sound not mapped?i cant map many sounds in 4k :<
the section at 01:05:347, see my earlier comments regarding similar pattern
01:12:847 (72847|0,72907|1,72966|0,73026|1,73085|0,73145|1,73204|0,73264|1,73323|0,73383|1,73442|0,73502|1,73561|0,73621|1) - are you a piano player? XD i know that trills are common like this but please don't do this especially in 4K and at this speed, just remap this section with same layering but different pattern dont worry i testplayed it, feels good xD
01:22:490 same thing here, earlier comments regarding similar pattern
just to get this out of the way this section is very good patterning 01:30:704 (90704|0,90704|3,90764|1,90823|2,90883|1,90942|0,90942|3,91002|2,91061|1,91061|0,91061|3) thx :>
now this next section at 01:31:061 i dont understand why you are mapping those sounds with LN. you can barely hear it. you can hear other sounds much clearer, like the hi-hat, and the kick at 01:33:115, please remap this section without mapping the quiet string sounds i think it's ok cuz and ii love LN :>
01:35:794 (95794|1,95883|0,95972|1,96061|0,96151|1,96240|0,96329|1,96419|0,96508|1,96597|0,96686|1,96776|0,96865|1,96954|0,97044|1,97133|0,97222|1,97311|0,97401|1,97490|0,97579|1,97669|0,97758|1,97847|0) - are you a monster XD (here is my solution https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8592066&#41; fixed, btw i couldnt open the pictt
01:39:454 (99454|3,99454|0,99499|2,99544|1,99588|2,99633|0,99633|1,99633|3) - hi tidek!! by the way i like this pattern a lot please do not change haha thats how i kill ppl
01:44:990 (104990|0,105079|1,105169|0,105258|1,105347|0,105436|1,105526|0,105615|1) - please remap, see above comments rearranged :> but i think anchors cant be fixed ..
01:47:669 (107669|0) - im assuming you are mapping the violin/string sound, but it continues longer than the LN maps i map the "ssshh"
sound, and i think the timing is right >.>
01:48:204 earlier comments regarding similar pattern
01:56:776 this part is completely undoable, change the LNs to regular notes some patterns fixed there, added noodles to buff SHD. actually those mini LNs hav pattern, but i messed up the pattern somehow, and i just fixed it :>
02:04:276 (124276|3,124276|0,124320|1,124365|2,124410|3,124454|0,124454|1,124499|2,124544|3,124588|0,124633|1,124678|3,124722|2,124767|1,124811|0,124811|3,124856|2,124901|1,124945|0,124990|2,125035|3,125079|1,125124|2,125169|1,125169|3,125213|0,125258|2,125303|1,125347|0) - who hurt you? D: this is super messy and cri and dan 9 material (here's my jumptrilly solution but i know you are not going to do this lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8592167&#41; nahh i hate jumptrill
maybe add an LN at the end to map the whooshy sound? i will reconsider it >

Awakened (short comment)

not really a full mod just a comment, im not going to lie here this diff is really messy and i dont think this is rankable at all. again as i said in the beginning of the SHD diff, this isnt the song to make #harder4kmaps with. based on what ive seen of your mapping style (this map and GHOST), if you really want a map ranked, choose an extremely dense (music-wise) song thats around 140bpm kind of like planet shaper. it would really fit your mapping style.i wish you luck thx, but i will try to rank something different and looks messy (actually they all hav patterns)
edit : harder4kmaps doesnt mean i map for sake of hard, but avoiding overrated map and avoiding mainstream map difficulty like 4* - 5* (underrated maps dont count..), cuz maps like P//S are rare >.> and about the song, i think it's ok now, the old awakened is.... satan's special gift

eyes wrote:

sorry I forgot about M4M

I think offset is 1056 (apply this after mod) i think little difference doesnt matter, cuz other citanlu (7k ver) is 1050, not 1056 >.>
Using scroll speed changes in Easy/Normal diff is unrakable theres only 1 section with sv and i think the slowdown sv is ok as long as not some weird teleports >.>

|1-4|
[EZ]
00:09:633 - change pattern for emphasizing the 1/4 kicks for now i will stick to the LN =D

00:18:204 - double fixed

00:24:276 (24276|0,24990|0) - avoid fixed

[NM]
00:34:097 (34097|2,34276|2,36240|2,36419|2) - these are different pitch, move second jack to another column i will change it if other ppl say that again >.> the first two are different 00:33:740 (33740|0,33919|1) - but idk with other two 00:34:097 (34097|2,34276|2) -

01:34:097 - maybe note here nah >.>

01:38:561 - hmm triple in Normal is very questionable thing, also I don't see a reason for sudden triple, remove 1 note fixed

00:55:883 (55883|2,56061|2) - move to 1 for balance i think it's ok cuz theres also something like that here 00:56:419 (56419|3,56597|3) -

[MX]
00:20:347 - LN? yeaa

00:33:740 (33740|1,33919|0,33919|3) - should be a jack I guess thats the different pitch note i mentioned above

01:00:883 (60883|2,61061|2) - it should be a jack because you didn't jack these notes 00:58:740 (58740|0,58740|2,58919|1,58919|3) - 01:03:026 (63026|0,63026|3,63204|2,63204|1) i will reconsider it, but i think it doesnt matter >.>

01:12:847 - wrong snap, it should be like this i will stick to consistency here, cuz easier to read

Other diffs are fine but I think last diff is overmapped a little bit

qqqant wrote:

i think a BN gave the kudosu lol

also, SHD is a lot more playable now, nice :0 (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8706128)

HXJ_Crafter wrote:

wow the level spread changed quite a lot..... where is 6.5* I forgot