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Getty vs. DJ DiA - Fox4-Raize-

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Xilver15
Former osu! Champion: 2015
510 posts
Joined August 2013
Xilver15
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xilvr
00:24:812 (1,4) - the fuk uis this overlap http://puu.sh/s4JtB/d3bdb67a62.jpg a e s t h e t i c s
00:44:912 (5) - 00:45:512 (1) - the fuk uis this barely teouchign bs fixed
00:45:662 (1,1) - the fuk uis this overlap fixed

Xilver
00:41:012 (1) - mapping this a slider completely ignores this phatt beat right on 00:41:162 - and lands on an empty beat. wouldn't it be best to either map 00:41:012 - and 00:41:162 - as high distance spacing circles, or map 00:40:862 (2) - a 3/4 slider to finish off mapping the sharp synth and put a circle on 00:41:162 - to capture the phatt beat? i guess another way to do it would be continue the 1/4 sliders until 00:41:312 - because that's the most clear instance of a single over powering element
it's mapped to the drums, not the wob sounds. notice how it's consistent for all 3 parts

Spaghetti: Because copied hitsounds, removed

https://puu.sh/s5CSH/cd79e441b7.osu
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin
all diffs updated: changed top diff back to feel at everyone's request

i can write a cited 5 paragraph essay on why the diff name is rankable if necessary but i think it's pretty clear that the only people who say it's not just don't like the name :)
Yogurtt
Beatmap Nominator
321 posts
Joined May 2013
Yogurtt
i lack the mental capacity to mod this map but heres what i got from top diff

feel:

00:20:462 (1) - no NC
01:00:812 (1,2) - blanket the followcircle
01:06:812 (2) - make this shape even, im p sure its off a little bit idk
01:19:487 (1,2) - i dont THINK this has to be NC
01:24:287 (1,2) - ^
01:34:712 (1,2) - move these down
01:44:012 (1) - make thsi even
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin

Yogurtt wrote:

i lack the mental capacity to mod this map but heres what i got from top diff

feel:

00:20:462 (1) - no NC MISTAKe
01:00:812 (1,2) - blanket the followcircle nah
01:06:812 (2) - make this shape even, im p sure its off a little bit idk fixed????? i hope??????
01:19:487 (1,2) - i dont THINK this has to be NC colourful kiai time, helps a lot with reading too for player
01:24:287 (1,2) - ^ colourful kiai time, helps a lot with reading too for player
01:34:712 (1,2) - move these down and ruin both the patterning and my structure? NUH
01:44:012 (1) - make thsi even monstrata pointed this out too and i fuckd up fixing it -_______
small IRC with Karen about top diff
22:22 Kaifin: would i be able to ask your opinion on my map?
22:22 Karen: which one?
22:22 *Kaifin is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1029677 Getty vs. DJ DiA - Fox4-Raize-]
22:26 Karen: it looks cool but i'm not able to testplay it
22:26 Karen: just one thing
22:27 Karen: 00:49:562 (1,2) - why is it inconsistent with 00:49:262 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these?
22:27 Kaifin: what do you mean?
22:27 Kaifin: as in why does the velocity change at 00:49:862 (1) - ?
22:29 Kaifin: 00:49:562 (1,2) - this is two sliders because the drums come in, unlike 00:49:262 (1,2) - which has more of a stop which is why i put a circle
22:29 Karen: i mean this is 1/4 slider+1/4 slider, but 00:49:862 (1,2) - this is different
22:30 Kaifin: i think that 00:49:712 (2) - has more of an echo to it than 00:50:012 (2) -
22:30 Kaifin: but that means i should make 00:50:312 (2) - a slider too
22:30 Kaifin: do you agree with that?
22:32 Karen: hmm yea a slider might work better here
22:32 Kaifin: changed!
22:32 Kaifin: thank you for pointing that out i would have never realized :D
22:33 Karen: 01:22:112 (4) - and maybe you need a new combo here?
22:33 Kaifin: added
22:34 Karen: nothing else then, coudn't point out much due to my poor playing skill
22:34 Karen: >_>
22:34 Kaifin: thank you very much!
22:34 Karen: no problem xd

okay we are ready now hopefully
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
VINXIS:

Offscreen objects:
00:30:812 (1) -
00:31:862 (5) -
01:15:512 (3) -
01:52:262 (1) -

Top diff name is still questionable, I'll ask around and edit this post if I see anybody else having a problem with it.

Call me back otherwise~
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
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Kaifin
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Kaifin
jk changed diff name i dont care lolz
Spaghetti
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Spaghetti
Nominated. Good luck!
Ayyri
Ayyri
:fish:
kbd
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kbd
#BringBackOurFeel
#PsychoLivesMatter
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jabronski
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jabronski
Kaifin
745 posts
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
thank you RLC for the godly hitsounds
Karen
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Karen
we added some hitsounds, i'll qualify it tomorrow xd, just a placeholder here
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Doormat
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Doormat
it'shappening.gif
Kaifin
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
updated to remove the old hitsounds and also tweak the lower diff's hitsounds!

hype!!!!!!
Karen
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Karen
quality set

VINXIS wrote:

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Ayyri
Ayyri
Girl
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Girl
RLC
Elite Mapper
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Joined August 2011
RLC
a) trivial computation
b) add the two equalities and observe that (root(3)-root(2))^2n < 1
c) derive simple recursions for a_n and b_n and reduce modulo 10 (it becomes very simple; the units digit of a_n is periodic)

my turn:
Karen
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Karen
what the fuck is going on
Doormat
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Joined September 2013
Doormat

Karen wrote:

what the fuck is going on
the degens are pumping this party
fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
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fieryrage
Boys, I'm down!
ac8129464363
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ac8129464363
good job coffin

not good job omar cuz I bet he didn't fix his deaf rhythm
Kaifin
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
Thanks
Beatmania IIDX_old_1
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Beatmania IIDX_old_1

RLC wrote:

a) trivial computation
b) add the two equalities and observe that (root(3)-root(2))^2n < 1
c) derive simple recursions for a_n and b_n and reduce modulo 10 (it becomes very simple; the units digit of a_n is periodic)

my turn:
Nice Communative Algebra memes dude.

Lemme post my LaTeXed problem sets too!

Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
I have several concerns about this map, time to have some fun.

General
00:41:012 - All diffs miss a clap here.

Kamal's Special Extra
There is nothing special about this diff, this is a style that has been overused by tons of mappers.
00:24:662 (1) - No reason for this NC, please be consistent with the previous pattern and remove the NC from this.
00:37:262 (1) - ^
00:39:962 (2) - Replace with two circles to make the pattern correspond to the music.
00:48:212 (1,2) - Switch NC placements to make it make sense with the change in music.
01:52:262 (1) - Offscreen Tail.

Extreme
Your HP Drain Rate is extremely high, especially considering how complex the map is and the insane amount of new combos you've put, consider lowering it to 7 or 6.5.
00:21:512 (1,1) - An anti jump into spaced 1/3s just feels extremely odd to play, People can probably read this, but I doubt it's actually fun to play. Also, the 1/3 isn't so prominent in the song, meaning that mapping it fully feels a bit unnatural to the player, consider using 1/3 repeat sliders like the rest of the difficulties. Also, NC Spam = Easy fails. (This applies to the rest of the 1/3s in the map)
00:40:862 (1) - This skips an extremely important beat for seemingly no reason, please turn this into a 1/2 slider.
00:58:412 (1) - The tails of these are awfully loud even though they don't cover any sound, please make them really quiet or even silent.

Xilver's Extra
00:05:612 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - What are these even snapped to?
00:27:812 (4,7) - This slight overlap makes me a bit uncomfortable for some reason, probably because you're a traitor though babe <3
00:38:837 (4,1) - This is a bit too edgy in my opinion.. consider lowering the spacing here.
01:15:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Out of my experience with such things (And essentially being the meme spaced streams mapper), This might cause some uncomfortable misses due to the extremely high spacing with odd flow, consider just lowering the spacing between each combo.

On Normal, conisder putting half the amount of new combos, most of your combos are only 2 notes on that difficulty which is a bit strange for a Normal.
Bonzi's diff is perfect as always.
Good luck~
Mao
Elite Mapper II
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Joined December 2012
Mao
I'm taking this down as Priti brought up some valid points like the offscreen object in Kamal's difficulty and the 1/16 snaps in Xilver's difficulty.
Also the HP drain in Extreme and some other things mentioned in Priti's mod are worth discussing.

Good luck o/
hehe
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hehe
VINXIS
Featured Artist
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VINXIS

Priti wrote:

Kamal's Special Extra
There is nothing special about this diff, this is a style that has been overused by tons of mappers.
niga put too much salt on his beef

ill change useless nc shit and the offscreen when i get home : 0
Kaifin
745 posts
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
HP drain is completely fine: the map is dense enough and is NC'd in a way that it never presents a threat of coming remotely close to killing you if you hit a reasonable amount of noyes

The HP is a unique concept in the map compared to the rest of the mapset and I think lowering it detracts from the quality of the map, even though on paper it looks high in practice it works perfectly

It's also worth noting that the pass rate of the map with quite a few plays was completely normal compared to the other diffs, so it's not like it's presenting a massive issue for those trying to pass the ma

As for the 1/3, your "fun" is subjective: I find them to be quite fitting and interesting throughout the map and they are consistent and follow the same concepts as the rest of the map

I'll fix the hitsound/NC stuff when I get online, there's sound on those tails but I agree that it could be toned down a little

The reason Normal is NC'd like that is because its the easiest diff in the set so I NC'd it more like an Easy to compensate, I'll ask opinions and maybe change

lol the slider at 40:862 is extended because the sound is extended??????? Listen to the song and what I'm mapping to in this section, I'm not ruining my rhythm and feel just to hit some stupid drum note that no one is listening to at this part of the song in the first place and isn't a part of what I'm following distinctly in any sense for the entire section

tldr no changes to my diff other than the hitsound which I'll fix today

@xilver @omar fix unrankable and whatevrr from mod and let's get rolling again
Stoof
104 posts
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Stoof
ya hp drain not evn there my rank 6 digit friend can pass d
Natsu
8,074 posts
Joined September 2012
Natsu
I also don't agree with your comboing at the normal diff, all your combos are 2 or 1 objects, which isn't nice for the HP drain, since each last object in a combo gives a HP boost and you normal gives it every 1 or 2 objects, and BTW easy diffs don't spam combos like that, they usually use a NC every two measures and you should follow that, since your diff isn't dense.
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin
ok thank for input I'll change just was explaining my reasoning!

I'll keep that in mind for the future when mapping lower diff
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,315 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
Bonzi: Can you consider colorhax? I think this would help for the SV changes

edit: well maybe everyone who's using a lot of sv changes could consider it.. it would be a nice tweak anyway
VINXIS
Featured Artist
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VINXIS
00:39:962 (2) -????/ wt
00:48:212 (1,2) - dont see how tht makes any mor sens Lolz + this is better reading-wise anywaY


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312,361,105887,1,0,3:0:0:0:
341,361,105962,1,0,3:0:0:0:
370,360,106037,1,0,3:0:0:0:
397,358,106112,6,0,L|381:100,1,216,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
283,199,106412,6,0,L|273:48,1,135,0|2,1:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
274,64,106712,1,8,0:0:0:0:
197,293,106862,6,0,P|228:311|262:320,1,72,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
149,126,107012,1,0,1:0:0:0:
149,126,107162,6,0,P|148:161|157:196,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,0,107312,1,8,0:0:0:0:
269,0,107462,6,0,P|238:16|212:41,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
438,40,107612,6,0,L|450:197,1,135,0|2,1:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
448,174,107912,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,149,108062,6,0,L|319:152,1,72,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
169,241,108212,2,0,L|67:245,2,96,0|2|2,1:0|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
340,130,108512,5,8,0:0:0:0:
341,372,108662,1,2,1:1:0:0:
339,107,108812,6,0,L|204:111,1,135,0|2,1:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
204,111,109112,1,8,0:0:0:0:
338,336,109262,6,0,P|302:333|267:324,1,72,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
453,222,109412,1,0,1:0:0:0:
453,222,109562,6,0,P|450:257|441:292,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,107,109712,1,8,0:0:0:0:
339,107,109862,6,0,P|374:110|409:119,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,221,110012,6,0,L|229:57,2,83.9999974365235,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,123,110312,2,0,L|103:60,1,62.9999980773926,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,289,110462,2,0,L|343:226,1,62.9999980773926,2|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,320,110612,5,0,1:0:0:0:
250,112,110762,1,2,1:2:0:0:
250,112,110837,1,2,1:2:0:0:
250,112,110912,1,8,0:0:0:0:
0,155,111062,1,2,1:2:0:0:
232,313,111212,6,0,L|371:311,1,108,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,311,111512,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,123,111662,6,0,L|116:212,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,44,111812,1,0,1:0:0:0:
222,214,111962,6,0,L|230:303,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,135,112112,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,305,112262,6,0,L|344:394,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,226,112412,6,0,P|391:192|340:178,1,108,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,178,112712,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,307,112862,6,0,L|363:303,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,184,113012,1,0,1:0:0:0:
206,184,113162,6,0,L|107:180,1,72,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
267,55,113312,1,8,0:0:0:0:
267,313,113462,1,2,1:1:0:0:
477,123,113612,6,0,P|492:174|487:227,1,108,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,186,113912,6,0,P|369:250|321:299,1,135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,197,114212,6,0,P|233:242|107:249,1,161.999995056153,0|0,1:0|1:1,0:0:0:0:
180,151,114512,6,0,P|101:166|-5:96,1,188.999994232178,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,34,114812,6,0,L|254:39,1,120,4|2,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
399,192,115112,2,0,L|261:197,1,120,4|2,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
237,69,115412,6,0,L|245:194,1,120,4|2,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
253,331,115712,5,8,1:0:0:0:
235,38,115862,1,8,1:0:0:0:

edit: when kaifin and bonzi do th same rhythm at a part but only kaifin gets the beats from the post-qual mod we./w
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Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin
Normal comboing fixed I think, I'll pm some people and make sure its good to go

missing hitsound fixed in all non gd diffs, i'll fix it in the gds when they submit updates!

also, I've decided i like the hitsounds on the slider ends in the slow part, gives it more texture and is more satisfying to listen to imo'

@irre imo colours are fine as they are right now, there are some minor tweaks in my diff but nothing major and i don't think it helps with readability especially with the level of variance in SV

however bonzi if you wanna do it go right ahead!
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin
talked with bonzi, we decided against the hax after looking at how it looked

xilver fixed all, i updated all diffs

round 2!
Stjpa
886 posts
Joined July 2013
Stjpa
Round 2? Smth smth BN rules :thinking:
Kaifin
745 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Kaifin
maybe if BNs like you actually modded my maps or gave input instead of just memeing in my thread, the ranking process would be less hellish

:thinking:
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti

Kaifin wrote:

maybe if BNs like you actually modded my maps or gave input instead of just memeing in my thread, the ranking process would be less hellish

:thinking:
Completely agree. You earned your position, so show some maturity for the sake of the mapper and for the sake of the image of the BNG.

edit: Also, where in the BN rules does it say that he cannot move on now? Only rule regarding DQ's is this one and I do not see what relevance it holds as there hasn't been an icon placed yet and Priti hasn't testified against the map after Kaifin's reply/fixings:

BN Rules wrote:

If the community member(s) requesting disqualification cannot reach an agreement with the mapper and you placed the last bubble or heart on a map, you cannot rebubble or requalify it. For osu!taiko, osu!catch, osu!mania, and hybrid sets, you may break these conditions once per map due to the low number of nominators.
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