eINess wrote:

근데 이거 mp3 음질 이상한거 저만 그런가요??

1. b4 you're going to get it like a bubble or qualified, i think you should check the hitsound more carefully. i found some missing hitsounds there .-.
2. 02:42:551 (5) - did u miss a hitsound set on the tail?
3. 04:05:047 (5) - clap on head pls
4. 05:03:885 (3) - clap
5. 05:12:068 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - i see what u did there :^)
6. 05:17:485 (1) - i think the spinner can end well in 05:23:173 -

1. hmm is it just me or is some of the timing off at some points? for example the first chorus feels a little late (i'm hitting too early on most notes). then again it might just be me..
2. 00:48:881 (1) - mm i think you can give more emphasis by moving it somewhere on the bottom half of the screen; stack here feels kind of underwhelming imo
   
   SPOILER

   just an example of where you could place it
   
3. 01:19:714 (6,1) - have you considered making these parallel for aesthetics?
4. 01:28:547 (4) - red pivot slider looks out of place with all the other curved sliders; consider removing red pivot for a curved slider?
5. 01:50:243 (3,4) - shouldn't spacing be a little higher to emphasize clap since you did it everywhere else?
6. 02:18:562 (3) - since rhythm here is different due to vocals being slightly different, why not add circle at drum note 02:18:230 - so player can notice the difference earlier?
7. 02:41:885 (1,2) - i get the spacing increase here for buildup here but why is this the largest spacing? plays a bit out of place since the next few jumps have higher buildup but less spacing
8. 03:01:218 (4,1) - kind of a weird angle when moving from (4) to (1); maybe try to curve (1) inwards towards (4) so catch-in angle is a bit smoother?
   
   SPOILER

   just an idea that might make movement a bit more natural
   
9. 03:11:718 (1) - don't see the point in NC'ing this 1/3 snap pattern too, since having NC here won't impact readability. i recommend you remove this
10. 03:38:383 (7) - 1/1 gap here feels kind of lacking imo; maybe try 3/4 slider here for some slight vocal emphasis?
11. 04:05:047 (5) - imo the 1/4 buzz slider here isn't fast enough to match the piano. consider using a 1/8 buzz slider here
12. 04:09:547 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - interesting choice to have spacing decrease here because of quieter piano, but the drums are still pretty strong. you sure about this?
13. 04:18:073 (2) - consider Ctrl + G here so that slider end points towards the next slider 04:18:740 (1) - . you will also have to Ctrl + G 04:16:073 (1) - 04:16:740 (2) - 04:17:407 (1) - if you take this suggestion
14. 04:30:080 (1) - starting to build up again, so slider here feels a little underwhelming. consider two circles instead?
15. 04:52:906 (1) - why new combo here? seems kind of unnecessary
16. 05:02:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - kind of a similar thing about a previous point; you're building up here and then choose to follow the quieter sections of music while drums are still really strong. just making sure if you're 100% certain on wanting this

Doormat wrote:

sorry for the super late m4m; been revamping my modding style. no worriez :3

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1. hmm is it just me or is some of the timing off at some points? for example the first chorus feels a little late (i'm hitting too early on most notes). then again it might just be me..Listening at 25%, I don't think it's off, maybe by 10ms or so, but not sure... I wouldn't be surprised if there are improvements to be made for timing, but I don't think that there is any major issue.
2. 00:48:881 (1) - mm i think you can give more emphasis by moving it somewhere on the bottom half of the screen; stack here feels kind of underwhelming imo I'll give that a try
   
   SPOILER

   just an example of where you could place it
   
3. 01:19:714 (6,1) - have you considered making these parallel for aesthetics? curved slightly to make it look smoother instead.
4. 01:28:547 (4) - red pivot slider looks out of place with all the other curved sliders; consider removing red pivot for a curved slider?
5. 01:50:243 (3,4) - shouldn't spacing be a little higher to emphasize clap since you did it everywhere else? OK
6. 02:18:562 (3) - since rhythm here is different due to vocals being slightly different, why not add circle at drum note 02:18:230 - so player can notice the difference earlier? ok
7. 02:41:885 (1,2) - i get the spacing increase here for buildup here but why is this the largest spacing? plays a bit out of place since the next few jumps have higher buildup but less spacing Slightly reduced spacing I still wanna give this part largest spacing because I think vocal's tension relaxes a bit at 02:42:218 - , or at least that's how I feel xD
8. 03:01:218 (4,1) - kind of a weird angle when moving from (4) to (1); maybe try to curve (1) inwards towards (4) so catch-in angle is a bit smoother?not sure if this actually affect playability, but both looks good imo. So I'll follow your advice~~
   
   SPOILER

   just an idea that might make movement a bit more natural [
   
9. 03:11:718 (1) - don't see the point in NC'ing this 1/3 snap pattern too, since having NC here won't impact readability. i recommend you remove this
10. 03:38:383 (7) - 1/1 gap here feels kind of lacking imo; maybe try 3/4 slider here for some slight vocal emphasis? I will remove if others agree with you, but I think this 1) lets player know it's 1/3 beat gap 2) blands well with darkening sb
11. 04:05:047 (5) - imo the 1/4 buzz slider here isn't fast enough to match the piano. consider using a 1/8 buzz slider here from 25% play, I think 1/4 is the better option
12. 04:09:547 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - interesting choice to have spacing decrease here because of quieter piano, but the drums are still pretty strong. you sure about this? Nope, I'm not sure, but if I had to pick, I'll keep it since overall intensity of music seem to decreaase
13. 04:18:073 (2) - consider Ctrl + G here so that slider end points towards the next slider 04:18:740 (1) - . you will also have to Ctrl + G 04:16:073 (1) - 04:16:740 (2) - 04:17:407 (1) - if you take this suggestion I think it's fien with next slider being downbeat, and nobody follows reverse slider to the end
14. 04:30:080 (1) - starting to build up again, so slider here feels a little underwhelming. consider two circles instead? I like these circles ><; feels right to me... mmm... sliders....
    If I need a logical explanation, I think it makes vocal at 04:30:417 (2,3) - stand out more
15. 04:52:906 (1) - why new combo here? seems kind of unnecessary rip NC
16. 05:02:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - kind of a similar thing about a previous point; you're building up here and then choose to follow the quieter sections of music while drums are still really strong. just making sure if you're 100% certain on wanting this /w/

neat map, sorry it took so long again ;A;

Beomsan wrote:

스레드 구경왔는데 븡분들이 참 많네요
edit: 마지막 스피너 초록선 스냅해주세용

1. from 00:50:716 - to 01:10:715 - . it will be better to remove all claps, if you want to follow the song correctly.
2. 01:10:549 (7) - remove whistle
3. 01:11:548 (5) - remove whistle and add clap

1. 01:12:548 (2) - remove whistle
2. 01:13:048 (4) - add whistle
3. 01:13:548 - remove whistle
4. 01:13:714 - add whistle
5. 01:14:381 - you should keep clap here.
6. 01:15:048 - add whistle
7. 01:15:214 (2) - remove whistle
8. 01:15:714 (4) - add whistle
9. 01:16:214 - remove whistle
10. 01:16:381 - add whistle
11. 01:17:048 - keep clap.
12. 01:17:714 - add whistle
13. 01:17:881 - remove whistle
14. 01:18:381 (3) - add whistle
15. 01:18:881 - remove whistle
16. 01:19:048 - add whistle
17. 01:19:714 - add clap
18. 01:20:381 - add whistle
19. 01:20:547 (2) - remove whistle
20. 01:21:047 - add whistle
21. 01:21:547 - remove whistle
22. 01:21:714 - add whistle
23. 01:22:381 - keep clap.

1. 01:30:714 - add finish
2. 01:59:884 (7) - add finish and clap
3. 02:23:053 - add drum-clap
4. 02:23:553 - add drum-finish

1. 02:24:053 (1) - add whistle
2. 02:24:553 - remove whistle
3. 02:25:053 - add whistle
4. 02:25:553 - remove whistle
5. 02:25:719 - add whistle
6. 02:25:219 (5) - add clap
7. 02:27:053 - add whistle
8. 02:27:219 (2) - remove whistle
9. 02:27:719 (4) - add whistle
10. 02:29:053 - add clap
11. 02:29:719 - add whistle
12. 02:29:886 - remove whistle
13. 02:30:386 - add whistle
14. 02:30:886 - remove whistle
15. 02:31:053 - add whistle
16. 02:31:719 - add clap
17. 02:32:386 - add whistle
18. 02:32:886 - remove whistle
19. 02:33:053 - add whistle
20. 02:33:553 - remove whistle
21. 02:33:719 - add whistle
22. 02:34:386 - add clap

1. 02:37:885 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - add clap to all
2. 02:41:718 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - ^
3. 03:01:384 (1) - set Additions to Auto
4. 03:09:884 - add whistle
5. 03:10:051 - remove whistle
6. 03:10:218 (1) - add whistle
7. 03:10:551 - add whistle
8. 03:10:718 - remove whistle
9. 03:10:884 (1,2) - set drum-finish
10. 03:12:051 (1) - add finish and whistle
11. 03:22:716 - add finish
12. 03:42:383 - remove whistle and add clap
13. 03:53:881 - add finish
14. 03:54:214 - ^
15. 04:08:047 (1) - add clap
16. 04:08:713 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - add clap to all
17. 04:26:739 - add finish
18. 04:28:073 - ^
19. 04:29:406 (1) - ^
20. 04:58:563 - remove clap, then add drum-finish
21. 04:58:716 (1) - add finish
22. 04:59:889 - ^
23. 05:01:229 - drum-finish or soft-whistle
24. 05:01:397 - add finish
25. 05:17:401 (1) - add whistle
26. 05:17:401 (1) - also, you should make it hearable. move this green line to 05:17:485 -

thzz wrote:

hi~
from my Hitsound mod queue!
I came here just for checking hitsounding.

I'll show the way how to "follow" the song correctly. your hitsounding "changes" the song a bit too much imo.

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1. from 00:50:716 - to 01:10:715 - . it will be better to remove all claps, if you want to follow the song correctly. claps there to emphasize piano sound because a modder suggested to do so. I think it works. But I'm willing to add a new hitsound if someone suggest something more appropriate
   for 01:11:548 (5) - , I'd like to keep the hitsound different from 01:11:715 (6) -
   /list]
   from 01:12:048 - to 01:22:714 - . at first, you also should remove all claps here. considering that no snaredrum rings here without some exception, you "changed" the song too much imo, not "followed".
   
   1. 01:12:548 (2) - remove whistle
   2. 01:13:048 (4) - add whistle
   3. 01:13:548 - remove whistle
   4. 01:13:714 - add whistle
   5. 01:14:381 - you should keep clap here.
   6. 01:15:048 - add whistle
   7. 01:15:214 (2) - remove whistle
   8. 01:15:714 (4) - add whistle
   9. 01:16:214 - remove whistle
   10. 01:16:381 - add whistle
   11. 01:17:048 - keep clap.
   12. 01:17:714 - add whistle
   13. 01:17:881 - remove whistle
   14. 01:18:381 (3) - add whistle
   15. 01:18:881 - remove whistle
   16. 01:19:048 - add whistle
   17. 01:19:714 - add clap
   18. 01:20:381 - add whistle
   19. 01:20:547 (2) - remove whistle
   20. 01:21:047 - add whistle
   21. 01:21:547 - remove whistle
   22. 01:21:714 - add whistle
   23. 01:22:381 - keep clap.

from 02:24:053 - to 02:34:719 - . same reason as from 01:12:048 - to 01:22:714 - , at first, you should remove all claps.

1. 1. 02:24:053 (1) - add whistle
   2. 02:24:553 - remove whistle
   3. 02:25:053 - add whistle
   4. 02:25:553 - remove whistle
   5. 02:25:719 - add whistle
   6. 02:25:219 (5) - add clap
   7. 02:27:053 - add whistle
   8. 02:27:219 (2) - remove whistle
   9. 02:27:719 (4) - add whistle
   10. 02:29:053 - add clap
   11. 02:29:719 - add whistle
   12. 02:29:886 - remove whistle
   13. 02:30:386 - add whistle
   14. 02:30:886 - remove whistle
   15. 02:31:053 - add whistle
   16. 02:31:719 - add clap
   17. 02:32:386 - add whistle
   18. 02:32:886 - remove whistle
   19. 02:33:053 - add whistle
   20. 02:33:553 - remove whistle
   21. 02:33:719 - add whistle
   22. 02:34:386 - add clap
   1. 02:37:885 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - add clap to all I feel like this makes this part stand out too much compared to the rest, although difference in purcussion in the music seems rather subtle. Maybe this can be solved if I can find another custom clap sounds, hopefully something very subtle. But again, I think the way it is hitsounded rn works fine too.
   2. 03:09:884 - add whistle
   3. 04:08:713 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - add clap to all I prefer not to for same reason above

okay,that's all
if you want to follow the song correctly, consider these.

Regarding your suggestion on section ( 01:12:048 - 01:22:381 - and 02:24:053 - 02:34:719 - ) First of all, thanks for the detailed step by step procedure :3 I wasn't sure why you were making these suggestions, so I just created a new diff and followed everything you said and listened to how it sound compared to the way I've done it. Well, the upshot is that I like the way I've done it better. Maybe your suggestion is "correct" in following the sounds in the music. Still, it feels rather empty, and it sounds more interesting with more variant hitsounding. A lot of mappers add hitsounds that has absolutely no basis in the music, but still compliments the music well. I also think it is fine since I've done it in a way that's consistent. over the section. None of the previous modders pointed out any issue with the hitsounding in this section, and one of them thought this section in particular was very well done. So I'd like to keep the way it is.

Sorry if my explanation is bit incoherent/wordy. I'm just a bit tired rn :v


thanks for your patience
gl~

1. I would use a lower AR. The map isn't very dense to warrant anything higher than 9
2. 00:06:760 - This beginning section, consider using simpler slider shapes and sparser rhythm to preserve its humility and maybe slower sliders in general. Keep it delicate
3. 00:32:730 (5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These circles don't need to be spaced so far. Just the fact you're changing from sliders to circles will provide enough emphasis. You can use the larger distances for the louder drums just before the melody kicks in
4. 00:38:723 - Careful with you rhythm -- it's too predictable and boring ( S+C x 4 + C C S, repeated twice )
5. 00:44:048 - I'd probably not go with whistle clap spam. Change the hitsounds to something that's not as obtrusive. Also don't have them on every note
6. 01:14:048 (4,5) - Drum claps are too much. Drum finishes are probably better, and I would also not make these have the same hitsounds; they sound really awkward in their current state
7. 02:02:743 - maybe consider restructuring this section? it's not on par with the rest of the map
8. 02:26:053 (4,5) - yeah these drums x_x
9. 03:55:381 - Maybe more variation here. Get more creative :p
10. 04:01:047 (1) - These kind of sliders in this section can be built more creatively I think
11. 04:10:381 (3,4,1) - Might be cool if you can differentiate these better. maybe make them super close like 0.8x distance snap and in a line
12. 04:16:073 (1) - The first four of these are fine, the next three get boring
13. 04:45:382 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you're missing the point in the song here, I would make this part the highlight of the map. Don't follow exactly the vocals, focus on the drums as well, especially this 04:46:715 -
14. 05:04:132 - spinner?

Frostings wrote:

Addressing big points

The Storyboard absolutely needs to be reduced in filesize. Use ONE or TWO backgrounds -- one fullsized for the real background, and one possibly B/W for storyboard, using the built in Color function whenever possible. If you absolutely need to include background variations as individual files (for physical differences), use smaller dimensions (usually 0.625 of normal, so 854x480) and keep them 250kb each

05:04:049 - I suggest a slower fade, until here 05:06:382 -, black til 05:06:735 -
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1. I would use a lower AR. The map isn't very dense to warrant anything higher than 9 I think plus or minus 2 AR is mostly down to personal preference, and I lean toward higher AR. I prefer to keep 9.2
2. 01:14:048 (4,5) - Drum claps are too much. Drum finishes are probably better, and I would also not make these have the same hitsounds; they sound really awkward in their current state Changed to drum finish. The drum in the music sounds the same tho, so same hitsound sounds seems fine to me
3. 02:02:743 - maybe consider restructuring this section? it's not on par with the rest of the map
4. 03:55:381 - Maybe more variation here. Get more creative :p This is my favorite pattern in the whole map xD I'd really like to keep it as is
5. 04:10:381 (3,4,1) - Might be cool if you can differentiate these better. maybe make them super close like 0.8x distance snap and in a line :)
6. 04:16:073 (1) - The first four of these are fine, the next three get boring I see, but I don't have a better idea, and I think it's not as boring when you're playing. Time goes slower in the editor ;^) It's only 3 more seconds
7. 05:04:132 - spinner? No spinner feels better to me... I just feel, you know ;^)

also I would recommend a higher quality mp3 http://puu.sh/rdLLO/32c0db3d26.mp3
offset 180, assuming first timing point is 180.00 bpm. I would have made it have the same offset as your current mp3 but I failed like five times THanks a lot for going into that trouble... but IDK if I want to replace it tbh. I think the mp3 file you gave me is from different release. The one I'm using is from Zigaexperientia (hence "Album Mix"). It sounds little different, and I think maybe that's why you (and others) think quality is poor...? idk. But the Kokuhaku in sold digitally on Amazon sounds just like the mp3 I'm using (as far as I can tell), and different from the one you provided...

Left wrote:

맵 아직 진행중이신거 같아서 모딩해봅니다. 랜덤 모딩 감사합니다 <3
from my queue

00:48:215 (1,2,3) - 앞쪽에 나왔던 점프를 생각하면, 이 노래 멜로디에 DS를 좀더 줘서 강조를 해줘도 좋지 않을까 생각합니다. 00:48:381 (2,3) - 조금 늘려봤습니다

01:22:714 (1) - ~ 01:33:214 (3) - 노래가 점점 고조되어가는 구간이라는 느낌이 조금 있는데, 초반부터 과도하게 디스턴스가 증가된 채로 시작해서 조금 느낌이 살지 않다고 느껴집니다. 저라면 조금씩 거리를 늘려가보는 해석을 해볼지도 모르겠습니다. 그 외에도 드럼 킥으로 구성된 구간이라 과격한 동선이 어울리지 않는다 생각하지만, 이건 개인차인거 같으니..슬라를 이용해서 클릭 난이도를 서서히 증가시킨다는 느낌으로 매핑했습니다. 아마 바꾸게 된다면 뒷 부분 비슷한 구간도 손 봐야 해서 정확한 방향성이 생각나지 않는 이상 놨두겠습니다.

01:32:047 (1,2,3,4) - 다른 힛사로 강조를 해주셨는데, 다른 패턴을 사용해보시는게..?좋은 생각이 나면 바꿔보겠습니다 ㅇㅅㅇ

03:58:715 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 이부분 패턴 되게 맘에드는데, 좀 노래대비 난이도가 뻥튀기된 느낌이 있었던 것 같습니다. 이거나 앞부분 둘중하나 정도는 슬라이더로 바꿔도 되지 않을까 싶습니다. 전 뒷부분이 음이 다르므로 나을거같다고 생각해요. 패턴이 반복 적이라 거리가 조금 있지만 난이도가 다른 파트에 비해 높다고 생각하진 않습니다.

04:53:411 (1) - 왼쪽 블랭킷이 안된건 의도하신건가요? 넹... 하는게 나을려나요
05:03:885 (3) - 킥이 이어지다 여기서 강한 음이 나왔는데, 강조가 부족한거 같아요. 그 직전도 음이 점점 강해지는데 ds는 오히려 줄었고.. 그 음만 보면 강한데, 노래는 점점 잔잔해 지는것 같아서요. 조금 늘러보겠습니다


맵 좋네요ㅋㅋ 패턴은 지난번꺼랑 같이 깔끔한데 슬라가 곳곳에 이쁘네요..3점슬라만 쓰는 저는 부러울 따름..
꼭 랭크시키시길!

모딩 감사합니다!!!!!!

KuroNeko1509 wrote:

yo o/ free free mod lol GL RANKING PLS RANK <3

kawaii neko!

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1. 00:43:548 (6,1) - ew the overlap thoo lol, <3 ew indeed <3
   
   
2. 01:10:549 (7) - shouldn't 7 follow the same pattern as the notes before? like wouldn't it be better to place it somewhere like here http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6303776 ? changed DS so it has same emphasis. I think change makes transition more interesting, so flow is kept
   
   
3. 04:10:714 (1) - why nc? it was following the pattern of 2 prev. notes and the note itself isnt really outstanding or whatsoever, so i think it would be better to just take nc off? lol I am a simple man, I put NC on downbeat and sleep like a baby
   
   
4. 03:00:384 (3,1) - move 3 a bit to the side lol nice catch

Vert wrote:

m4m https://osu.ppy.sh/s/455011

[A D]
00:32:235 (4) - I think this repeat slider can change into a silder & a circle I am not sure if it's good idea to increase clicking density too much here
00:44:048 (1) - hitsound here is a little strange for me I'm getting mixed feedback for this sound but I like :3
01:37:577 (2,5) - you can make a blanket here Didn't blanket but made them nearter
01:54:076 (5,6) - ^ feels forced
02:04:061 (2,3,4,1) - ^ I just want 02:04:061 (2) - to be symmetric wave slider and 02:05:380 (1) - is already blanket
01:38:410 (6,1) - really dislike this pattern changed
04:51:726 (4,1) - distance here is too large here reduced a bit
others are fine to me

gl!