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Mel
omg je pensais pas que tu allais mettre saucisse dans les tags
je suis mort j'en peux plus xD
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Musty
C'est bien une connerie, jetais pas sur mdr je t'ai fait confiance!!!!
6th
On dirait que le début est un peu mal timé, cf la fin de 00:02:450 (4) - ; 00:01:807 (2) - . Je pense que le bpm est inexact.
00:20:664 (1,2,3) - Une raison de mapper soudainement le violon ?
00:24:949 (1,2) - Echange les NC ?
00:49:937 (2) - Pareil, ceci est clairement trop en avance. Le timing peut être faux
01:09:740 (5) - Tu pourrais peut-être te passer de ça. C'est plutôt personnel mais ça sonne mieux sans.
01:26:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Le spacing haut commence trop tôt. Réduis le spacing entre 01:26:292 (1,2) -, ça va mieux avec la musique
01:29:248 (6,7,8) - Honnêtement un tel slider avec un flow à angle droit est pas terrible, je l'ai overjump trois fois d'affilée. Tu devrais les espacer un peu plus ou tourner le slider.
Ou alors, selon ta logique, 01:42:105 (2) - ceci devrait être plus espacé.
01:46:243 (2,1) - Pareil, ça paraît un peu étroit, tu peux augmenter le spacing ?
02:11:809 (5,6,7,8) - Le spacing augmente un peu trop comparé au reste. Est-ce que ça en mérite autant ? Pas vraiment
02:14:469 (3) - Enlève clap à sa fin
02:19:051 (5,6,7) - Pareil, tu ne comptes pas le réduire ?
02:34:568 (4,1,2,3) - Honnêtement ce mouvement est très peu naturel. Je ne comprends pas comment ça devrait jouer.
03:06:341 (1,2,3) - là au contraire ils devraient être espacés +, ce sont des sons très très forts
04:05:011 (5,6,1,2) - Je trouve que ce pattern pourrait être amélioré. Il démarre trop tôt par rapport à la musique, essaie quelque chose de ce genre http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6410784
04:22:597 (2) - Ceci ne couvre pas l'instrument que tu mappes. Supprime-le ou mappe la pause.
04:39:593 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ici le timing devient clairement faux. Ecoute avec 25%
05:05:011 (7) - Un CTRL+H ne ferait pas de mal
05:10:331 (5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Encore une fois il n'y a quasiment pas de flow entre les patterns :/ ceci est beaucoup trop dur par rapport à la difficulté générale

C'est une très bonne map, bravo ! Pas grand-chose à dire, corrige juste le timing !
Topic Starter
Musty

6th wrote:

On dirait que le début est un peu mal timé, cf la fin de 00:02:450 (4) - ; 00:01:807 (2) - . Je pense que le bpm est inexact. en jouant j'ai pas vraiment cette impression mais je vais quand même tenter de faire vérifier du coup
00:20:664 (1,2,3) - Une raison de mapper soudainement le violon ? on entends un peu en fond le piano
00:49:937 (2) - Pareil, ceci est clairement trop en avance. Le timing peut être faux je trouve ça en rythme par contre haha
01:09:740 (5) - Tu pourrais peut-être te passer de ça. C'est plutôt personnel mais ça sonne mieux sans. je l'avais mis pour la symbale qu'on entends, moi je trouve que ça fait un trop gros vide sans ^^
02:19:051 (5,6,7) - Pareil, tu ne comptes pas le réduire ? nope pas celui là, je pense pas que ça soit réellement nécessaire
04:05:011 (5,6,1,2) - Je trouve que ce pattern pourrait être amélioré. Il démarre trop tôt par rapport à la musique, essaie quelque chose de ce genre http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6410784 je comprends pas trop ce que tu veux me faire changer mais j'aime beaucoup comme il est actuellement ^^
04:22:597 (2) - Ceci ne couvre pas l'instrument que tu mappes. Supprime-le ou mappe la pause. on entends un petit son en vérité et je sais pas si c'est justifiable haha
04:39:593 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ici le timing devient clairement faux. Ecoute avec 25% on a l'impression que c'est faux en effet xD
05:05:011 (7) - Un CTRL+H ne ferait pas de mal un ctrl+h? je trouve que ça fait un jump abusé :o
05:10:331 (5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Encore une fois il n'y a quasiment pas de flow entre les patterns :/ ceci est beaucoup trop dur par rapport à la difficulté générale encore une fois, ça me paraît pas être une des parties les plus corsés de la map du tout, pour moi c'est juste une relance ce genre de patterns je préfère garder pour le moment !

C'est une très bonne map, bravo ! Pas grand-chose à dire, corrige juste le timing !
Merci beaucoup pour ton mod, je suis désolé du retard ahaha je fais mon mod très bientôt !
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Hi~ Musty Senpai! From my Q

[General]
  1. can you use not .png but .jpg image? I prepared the image just convert file extension. Please use it if you like. https://puu.sh/sR32t/3232ef886c.jpg

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  1. 00:18:092 (1,2) - i think to be clean those sliders are blanket
  2. 00:23:235 (2,4) - same as above
  3. 00:31:481 (2) - i think better to use circle instead of slider in 00:31:481 -
  4. 00:48:460 (1) - why dont you move to upword this slider like this image? in my thought, look more neat next stream shape
  5. 01:22:745 (6) - add NC?
  6. 03:36:785 - if you put 1/1 slider on here, suit to strong vocal imo
  7. 03:41:514 - same reason as above
I should mod more suggestions..but i dont bethink anymore!
Very nice song and map!! GL for App!!
Topic Starter
Musty

joker- wrote:

  1. 00:48:460 (1) - why dont you move to upword this slider like this image? in my thought, look more neat next stream shape
    i prefer keeping it like i had before, because i think the stream you shown is a bit too "condensed" :(
  2. 03:36:785 - if you put 1/1 slider on here, suit to strong vocal imo i want to make the rhythm consistent here :D
  3. 03:41:514 - same reason as above so the same applies above !
I should mod more suggestions..but i dont bethink anymore!
Very nice song and map!! GL for App!!
Thanks a lot for the mod !!!!! w
Zero__wind
map is decent
despite a questionable timing

I think your 203BPM timing section should better have offset 48472(+12)
and the part from 04:38:272 (6) - needs additional timing points:
BPM: 203 offset: 278302
BPM: 203 offset: 283160

hope this helps

but beware, the timing above is still not 100% safe for rank
please get further timing confirmation before getting nominated
Topic Starter
Musty
thanks for the input !

I also tried to improve the timing in the whole map aswell hope it goes better now.. might get a timing check though !
GoldenWolf
It's time for the T-T-T-Timing Check

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00:33 Musty: Salut, est-ce que tu acceptes les requests pour aider pour un timing dont je ne suis pas sûr? :s
00:34 GoldenWolf: ça dépend
00:34 GoldenWolf: j'ai droit à un bonbon après?
00:34 Musty: ah bah bien sûr, je peux envoyer par pigeon voyageur :D
00:34 GoldenWolf: allez
00:35 *Musty is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1028498 Shoujo Byou - Gareki no Shuuon]
00:35 Musty: alors
00:35 Musty: j'ai essayé de faire du mieux que je peux mais disons que je suis vraiment pas sûr si c'est vraiment correct :p
00:36 Musty: ah j'ai un slider qui s'est décalé LUL
00:36 GoldenWolf: ce moment où la chanteuse est plus on-time que les violons sur l'intro
00:36 GoldenWolf: mhhh
00:36 Musty: ouais c'est spécial ça aussi
00:37 Musty: c'est ce qu'on entend le plus donc j'ai préféré suivre cette ligne là
00:37 Musty: je sais pas si c'est judicieux :D
00:37 GoldenWolf: les violons ont tendances à être tjs en retard dû à leur nature, mais là c'est chaud mdr
00:37 GoldenWolf: du coup t'as bien de map la voix
00:37 GoldenWolf: t'as bien fait*
00:40 Musty: woops mon jeu a crash
00:40 GoldenWolf: mdr
00:40 GoldenWolf: le timing m'a l'air un poil early
00:42 GoldenWolf: 00:48:472 - +4 ms sur cette ligne rouge
00:43 Musty: ah oui ça sonne bcp mieux
00:46 GoldenWolf: 04:39:610 (1) - ici c'est bcp trop early par contre
00:46 Musty: ah ouais zero wind m'avait dit qu'il valait mieux changer là
00:47 Musty: moi je ressens pas bien c'est abusé ><
00:47 GoldenWolf: en plus la redline est pas au bon endroit mdr
00:48 GoldenWolf: 04:38:280 - bouge cette redline jusqu'à 04:38:449 -
00:48 Musty: 04:39:631 (1) -
00:49 Musty: j'ai l'impression que c'est décalé
00:49 Musty: et ici aussi du coup 04:41:700 (3) -
00:49 GoldenWolf: 04:38:449 - avec la redline ici ça devrait être on time
00:50 Musty: le jeu a encore planté
00:50 GoldenWolf: mdr
00:50 Musty: c'est abusé comment ça aime pas qu'on change les timing
00:52 GoldenWolf: mh y a la partie d'après qui est un peu off aussi
00:56 GoldenWolf: ok alors
00:57 GoldenWolf: va falloir rajouter pas mal de redlines
00:57 GoldenWolf: j'espère que t'es prêt :D
00:58 Musty: LUL
00:58 Musty: je suis prêt
00:58 Musty: haha
00:58 GoldenWolf: 04:52:617 - commence par ajouter une redline ici
00:58 GoldenWolf: avec le même bpm, 203.000 donc
01:00 Musty: ouaip
01:00 GoldenWolf: 04:51:423 - ajoute une redline ici, bpm 201.000
01:01 Musty: ah ouais xD
01:01 GoldenWolf: 04:51:113 - redline ici, bpm 194.000
01:01 GoldenWolf: (heureusement que tu utilises des sliders ici mdr
01:02 GoldenWolf: 04:50:244 - redline ici, bpm 207.000
01:03 GoldenWolf: 04:46:717 - red line ici, bpm 203.000
01:03 GoldenWolf: 04:44:649 - redline ici, bpm 203.000
01:03 GoldenWolf: 04:44:342 - ^
01:03 GoldenWolf: 04:43:160 - ^
01:04 GoldenWolf: 04:38:449 - ^ et c'est tout
01:04 GoldenWolf: en gros c'est principalement des offsets shifts, les bpm qui change c'est juste pour le roll où le batteur a été trop vite au début et a ralenti sur la fin, et ça n'a pas été fix en post prod
01:05 GoldenWolf: ils ont voulu garder un feeling d'authenticité pour cette partie probablement, et n'ont pas fix le timing
01:05 GoldenWolf: c'est des petits changements qui ne devraient pas avoir d'impact sur le gameplay
01:05 GoldenWolf: http://puu.sh/tkkss/eb60597822.png voilà à quoi ça doit ressembler
01:07 Musty: ok
01:07 Musty: alors wow
01:07 Musty: c'est chaud quand même de chopper tout ça
01:07 GoldenWolf: ça va j'ai l'habitude mdr
01:07 GoldenWolf: j'ai vu 100x pire
01:07 GoldenWolf: des fois ça fait ça, mais sur une musique entière de 10 minutes
01:07 GoldenWolf: fait juste attention à bien resnap tous les objets
01:08 GoldenWolf: et vérifie-les un par un
01:08 Musty: ouais
01:08 Musty: normalement tout est bon
01:08 GoldenWolf: double check bien avec mon screenshot
01:08 GoldenWolf: pour être sûr que c'est 100% correct
01:08 GoldenWolf: le reste a l'air bien constant
01:09 Musty: ouais j'ai tout qu'est bon
01:09 GoldenWolf: t'es tranquille alors
01:09 GoldenWolf: hf pour le rank
01:10 Musty: ahaha merci beaucoup en totu cas !!
01:10 Musty: j'espère que le mapping est correct pour passer LUL
01:10 GoldenWolf: ui ça devrait passer sans soucis
01:10 Musty: ! :D
01:10 Musty: en tout cas merci beaucoup pour l'aide
01:10 GoldenWolf: np mec
01:11 GoldenWolf: j'vais poster les logs dans le thread pour les futures mods/BNs
01:12 Musty: okok

So basically, one section near the end with unfixed timing, so quite a few redlines there. Small fixes elsewhere.
Topic Starter
Musty
Artorias pm mod
17:30 Artorias: k for your map
17:30 Artorias: you want to talk from here?
17:30 Artorias: to talk about things?
17:30 Musty: sure
17:31 Artorias: first of all
17:31 Artorias: this was just WEIRD to tap
17:31 Artorias: i played it 3 times
17:31 Artorias: was still weird
17:31 Artorias: 00:03:521 (1) -
17:31 Artorias: this note feels weird
17:31 Artorias: because of this
17:31 Artorias: 00:02:235 (3,4) -
17:31 Musty: why? D:
17:31 Artorias: a fucking slider there is much better imo, but you can do w/e you want with that
17:32 Artorias: its just cuz
17:32 Artorias: you have 1/2
17:32 Artorias: 1/2
17:32 Musty: oh
17:32 Artorias: then 3rd note goes into 1/4 tap into the slider
17:32 Artorias: then note is also weird length
17:32 Artorias: and goes right into 1/2 again
17:32 Artorias: idk it just didnt make a lot of sense to me while playing
17:32 Artorias: also i am shitrank2000000K but i dont play for PP
17:32 Artorias: i can easily FC this map
17:32 Artorias: some good day
17:33 Musty: its fine its like the easiest part xD
17:33 Musty: i changed the beginning and this into sliders tho
17:33 Artorias: that's why i have a problem with it lol
17:33 Artorias: cuz is the easiest part
17:33 Musty: because yeah it sounds better aswell anyways
17:33 Artorias: :P told ya
17:33 Artorias: anyways where do we continue
17:33 Artorias: that you didnt turn into sliders?
17:34 Artorias: what the fuck is this
17:34 Artorias: 00:31:481 (2) -
17:35 Artorias: its just.. there. one random note and it never reappears again in the entire song/map
17:35 Musty: yeah but the sound is significant
17:35 Artorias: i mean you can have it cuz of the sound
17:35 Musty: it feels just empty if theres no note
17:37 Artorias: i get that this is very slow part
17:37 Artorias: but
17:37 Artorias: 00:21:092 (2) -
17:37 Artorias: this should get some more emphasis, it's just like a dead fish slider there
17:38 Musty: it has
17:38 Musty: it is way much more spaced than usual :p
17:39 Artorias: 01:05:618 (5,6,1) -
17:39 Artorias: this is too clunky
17:39 Artorias: look at the snap 4 does into 5
17:39 Artorias: then 5 has a differnt angle for the triple?
17:40 Musty: i think its fine honestly :(
17:40 Artorias: just stack that to be easier and more intuitive, making wide angle snaps for triples like that isn't cool imo
17:40 Artorias: it aint fine
17:41 Artorias: k lets take this the other way
17:41 Artorias: look at the motion of this
17:41 Artorias: 01:05:027 (1,2,3,4) -
17:41 Artorias: where in this thing, does a triplet like this fit in
17:41 Artorias: 01:05:618 (5,6,1) -
17:41 Musty: i don't see how this is not intuitive
17:41 Musty: i mean, you see clearly that there is a triple right there
17:41 Musty: the fact that the movement is not "smooth"
17:41 Musty: is that the song breaks apart
17:41 Artorias: its awkwardly angled
17:42 Musty: have to disagree there lol
17:43 Artorias: well modding is about disagreeing
17:43 Artorias: ive never seen anyone take a mod well
17:43 Artorias: anyways fuck that triplet then
17:43 Artorias: 01:17:441 (8) -
17:43 Artorias: tbh if you make this into 3 more jump notes, not large
17:43 Artorias: but noticable enough
17:43 Artorias: its SO ORGASMICALLY BETTER
17:44 Musty: yeah
17:44 Artorias: if you listen that 8 slider
17:44 Artorias: is the same part as this
17:44 Artorias: 01:26:899 (5,6,7,8) -
17:44 Artorias: more or less
17:44 Artorias: the intensity of the percussion is the same
17:45 Artorias: anyways, are you happy with that change?
17:45 Artorias: ill update map later to see what you did with these parts
17:46 Musty: yea
17:46 Artorias: ok next
17:46 Artorias: this thing
17:46 Artorias: 01:44:338 (3,4) -
17:46 Artorias: and this entire 10 note part
17:47 Artorias: best way to do this sound is
17:47 Artorias: 1 2 snaps vertically
17:47 Artorias: or somewhat vertically
17:47 Artorias: similar so these
17:47 Artorias: 01:44:042 (1,2) -
17:47 Artorias: just more vertical
17:48 Musty: nah because the sound is quite different
17:48 Musty: it would make it a bit inconsistent
17:48 Musty: if i manage to get the same pattern but with a different timespacing
17:48 Artorias: then pause
17:48 Artorias: then another reverse snap 1 2
17:49 Artorias: jesus christ that crash
17:50 Artorias: 01:44:042 (1,2) -
17:51 Artorias: fcking sharex sec
17:51 Artorias: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/MYUaEbQ.png
17:51 Artorias: kinda like this?
17:52 Artorias: it just is objectively better fitting the song i think.. how does it sound?
17:57 Musty: hey yeah sorry received an important call
17:58 Artorias: and I got crash into oblivion, then my internet wasnt working for 2 minutes for some reason
17:58 Musty: i dont like how this pattern looks though xD
17:58 Artorias: you can do w/e you want with the pattern
17:58 Artorias: just it has to be like this, 1->2
17:58 Artorias: 1->2 again
17:58 Artorias: but 1 is stacked on last 2
17:58 Musty: honestly i dont even want to do that aswell
17:59 Artorias: this is a very important part of the song
17:59 Artorias: and you map it with a .. standard jump into slider
17:59 Artorias: this is against my moral code to not speak out against shit like this
18:00 Artorias: turn down effects volume and checkwhat the song does
18:00 Artorias: its like a pause after this note
18:00 Musty: i found an alternative
18:00 Artorias: 01:44:190 (2) -
18:00 Artorias: and, you emphasize that pause with an antijump of sorts
18:00 Musty: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090381
18:02 Artorias: that's better but tell me this, where do you see the emphasis in that tapping pattern?
18:02 Artorias: you need to go 12 snap then antijump into 12
18:02 Artorias: thats the only way
18:02 Artorias: I feel like I'm gonna make a lot of enemies if i start modding stuff....
18:02 Musty: there is no way
18:02 Artorias: am i right?
18:02 Musty: you have to do 1-2-.-1-2
18:02 Musty: in the song
18:02 Musty: no way !
18:03 Musty: i dont think it feels right to do this
18:03 Artorias: sec sending u sample
18:05 Artorias: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ediIgMyXLrV2tLaDdUcXJYcFk
18:06 Artorias: throw this into your map folder
18:06 Artorias: it wont overwrite anything
18:06 Artorias: and check how it works
18:10 Musty: sure
18:12 Artorias: i'd be pleased if the spacing here was increased by a fuckton
18:12 Artorias: 02:35:471 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:13 Musty: yeah
18:13 Musty: i increased it a bit
18:13 Artorias: to 1.0x or smth
18:13 Artorias: 02:40:347 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - this as well. to 1.0 or 0.9?
18:13 Musty: sorry
18:13 Artorias: love this part of the song
18:13 Musty: im dealing with drama atm so im a bit slow lol
18:13 Artorias: irl drama?
18:14 Musty: nah
18:14 Musty: osu french
18:14 Musty: drama
18:14 Musty: lol
18:14 Musty: btw
18:14 Musty: 01:44:633 (2) -
18:14 Artorias: oh god
18:14 Musty: dont like doing this
18:14 Musty: to be honest
18:14 Musty: just feel empty
18:14 Artorias: do jumps there if you want
18:15 Artorias: just put the 2 where the slider starts
18:15 Artorias: so you have that antijump effect with the previous 12
18:15 Artorias: this another problem i had with this section
18:15 Artorias: 01:45:668 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
18:15 Musty: nah i dont like this honestly lol
18:15 Artorias: made it into a small stream
18:15 Musty: it feels like too generic
18:15 Musty: xD
18:15 Artorias: right in the heart
18:15 Artorias: fuck
18:15 Musty: haaha
18:16 Artorias: its about emphasis
18:16 Artorias: rn as your map stands
18:16 Artorias: its too the same with the rest of the map there
18:16 Artorias: meanwhile i think it deserves attention, that specific part
18:17 Musty: i hate those 1/2 1/2 patterns
18:18 Musty: it doesnt feel ok aswell to tap the last 2
18:19 Artorias: no shit its the antijump feel
18:19 Artorias: but antijumps are dead recently so no one wants to play them lol
18:19 Artorias: moving on, fuck that part
18:19 Artorias: dont change anything
18:19 Musty: lol
18:19 Musty: i actually changed
18:19 Musty: something
18:20 Artorias: dont rage or anything
18:20 Artorias: try this first blindly, dont check anything
18:20 Artorias: just reproduce it
18:20 Artorias: and tell me if its better
18:20 Artorias: cuz ithink its like at least 50% better
18:20 Artorias: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/CCCs2tI.jpg
18:20 Artorias: 03:36:062 (2,3,4,5) -
18:20 Musty: wait
18:20 Artorias: large slider moved 1/4 later
18:20 Musty: where
18:20 Musty: oh
18:20 Musty: nvm
18:21 Musty: its not good
18:21 Musty: so inconsistent
18:21 Musty: to place the slider on red ticks
18:22 Musty: i've like never did that
18:22 Musty: throughout the whole map
18:23 Artorias: k then you need to change the two notes
18:23 Artorias: its just too weird like this
18:23 Musty: why?
18:23 Artorias: 03:36:357 (3,4,5) -
18:23 Artorias: this thing
18:23 Musty: i actually placed the 4 somewhere else
18:24 Artorias: idk the problem was in the gameplay
18:24 Artorias: it felt bad
18:24 Artorias: nothing concrete
18:25 Artorias: this whole section felt wrong to me
18:25 Artorias: 03:36:062 (2,3,4,5) -
18:25 Artorias: from the 2 slider
18:25 Artorias: if you play it and its fine then ok
18:26 Artorias: you can also maybe do jumps for these sliders
18:26 Musty: it actually plays smooth to be fair :p
18:26 Artorias: 03:42:860 (5,1,1) -
18:26 Artorias: the song uses some sort of anti jump but for a song
18:26 Artorias: lowering density
18:26 Artorias: to provide emphasis
18:26 Musty: like the one you said earlier?
18:26 Musty: LUL
18:26 Artorias: so you could do that with jumps as well
18:26 Artorias: yeah but that was just 1 note
18:27 Artorias: this is like.. 12 or something
18:27 Musty: im sorry i wont lxD
18:27 Musty: i just feel like it's retarded to play
18:27 Musty: i personnaly hate playing this pattern
18:27 Musty: it always feel like im forced
18:27 Artorias: 03:53:943 (2) -
18:28 Artorias: how do you feel about this slider
18:28 Artorias: and the sound accompanying it?
18:28 Artorias: easily can be a 1.1 space stream here leading into the next stack or smth
18:28 Artorias: but it works as is somewhat
18:29 Artorias: definitely change this here tho
18:29 Artorias: 04:03:993 (6,1,1) -
18:29 Artorias: the snapping between the 6->slider->1 is like a triangle if you take leniance into account
18:30 Artorias: but its too close and uncomfortable
18:30 Artorias: esp considering everything else is nicely spaced and comfortable to play
18:30 Musty: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090586
18:30 Musty: is it better
18:31 Artorias: yeah i did somethign similar
18:31 Artorias: this is good
18:31 Artorias: you agreed to something :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:31 Artorias: wtf happened
18:32 Musty: hahaha
18:33 Artorias: also do w/e you want with what ill say but
18:33 Artorias: 04:26:899 (1,2,3,4) -
18:33 Artorias: for this section
18:33 Artorias: and the stream
18:33 Artorias: the SCREAMS and everything
18:33 Artorias: this is the spacing you're going for in the jumps and stream>?
18:34 Artorias: this is i'd say less than some relatively normal song parts before it
18:34 Musty: yeah because im not mapping them
18:34 Artorias: I'd bump SV to 1.35
18:34 Artorias: for starters
18:34 Artorias: for the entire kiai
18:36 Artorias: also last part
18:36 Artorias: 04:52:617 (1) -
18:36 Artorias: this section till the end or smth
18:36 Artorias: could be like WAY harder
18:36 Artorias: its like the finale of the song or smth herer
18:36 Musty: yeah but the song is not especially going nuts lol
18:36 Musty: its not mandatory
18:36 Artorias: it just felt anticlimactic compared to even the rest of the song
18:37 Musty: to go "HEY LETS MAKE THE SR GROW BECAUSE YOU ARE STRESSED UP THERE AND ULL MOST LIKELY BREAK BECAUSE XD WHY NOT XDDdD"
18:37 Musty: idk
18:37 Musty: it feels like pretty calm actuazlly lol
18:37 Musty: compared to the rest of the song
18:37 Artorias: you didnt mention PP :o
18:37 Artorias: someone would be like "I AM NOT PP MAPPUR LUL"
18:38 Artorias: tbh that's all with the map, you see i almost didnt say anything about most parts of it
18:38 Musty: haha
18:38 Artorias: choruses are good, except like 1 thing i said
18:38 Musty: that's true though
18:38 Artorias: start needs some work on the slow part
18:38 Artorias: ending i'd increase SV a bit
18:38 Artorias: and make it more snappy
18:38 Artorias: I'd also increase AR by 0.1
18:38 Musty: i dunno why i would do that
18:38 Artorias: OD too fucking low
18:38 Musty: because the end is like the same as the ending
18:39 Artorias: wat
18:39 Musty: beginning*
18:39 Musty: im tired
18:39 Musty: lol
18:39 Musty: ar is fine as it is though imo
18:39 Musty: it's maybe even a bit high imo lol
18:39 Artorias: 05:11:237 (2,3,4,5) -
18:39 Musty: 9 would fit perfectly with this map lol
18:39 Artorias: this could use a spacing increase as well tbh
18:41 Artorias: gonna try it ar9
18:41 Artorias: just th eend
18:41 Artorias: also lol
18:41 Musty: put the od to 8.5
18:41 Artorias: k
18:41 Artorias: btw
18:41 Artorias: i removed everything except ending
18:41 Artorias: after the solo
18:41 Artorias: map is barely 5 stars
18:41 Artorias: kek
18:41 Artorias: 04:51:113 (1) -
18:42 Artorias: everything after this, the finale, is 5 stars max
18:42 Artorias: OH GOD MAKE IT AR9 PLEASE
18:42 Artorias: its so beautiful
18:44 Musty: but i said that the ending doesnt necessarily need to be the hardest part !
18:44 Artorias: yeah yeah yeah
18:44 Artorias: go AR9 and recieve free hate
18:44 Artorias: from people who cant play AR9 lulz
18:45 Musty: to be honest
18:45 Musty: it fits
18:45 Artorias: Ar9?
18:45 Artorias: its too good i just played it ar9
18:46 Artorias: 05:12:715 (6,7,8) -
18:46 Artorias: why triple there btw
18:46 Musty: you can hear a tiny sound
18:46 Artorias: anyways, what AR are you doing?
18:46 Musty: i have no clue
18:47 Musty: i think ill just stick with 9.3
18:47 Musty: until someone says otherwise
18:47 Artorias: fcccckkk
18:47 Artorias: no go AR9
18:47 Artorias: or 9.1
18:47 Musty: i really like ar9
18:47 Artorias: fuck whatever anyone says, go AR9 lyl
18:47 Musty: i guess ill try lol
18:48 Musty: AR8 does work too !!
18:48 Artorias: Do i look like fucking Ekoro to you
18:48 Artorias: :P
18:48 Artorias: who tf can play 6 star AR8 nowadays, not me tbh
18:50 Musty: ok guess im updating
18:50 Artorias: btw idk what youre doing
18:50 Artorias: youre editing my diff this whole time ?
18:50 Musty: no im not
18:51 Artorias: oh must be lag then
18:51 Artorias: lul
18:51 Artorias: AR9 update hype?
18:51 Musty: ya
18:53 Artorias: noice
18:53 Artorias: btw you arent gonna give me KD for this are u?
18:55 Musty: sure i am giving
18:55 Artorias: shit i have to post log?
18:55 Artorias: from now on ill only mod 200K player first maps
18:57 Musty: i can post it if u want
18:58 Artorias: if u can, ill post yours on my map for kd
18:58 Musty: i already posted mine on ur map xd
18:58 Artorias: oh you posted already
18:58 Artorias: kek
18:58 Artorias: rofl
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Artorias pm mod
17:30 Artorias: k for your map
17:30 Artorias: you want to talk from here?
17:30 Artorias: to talk about things?
17:30 Musty: sure
17:31 Artorias: first of all
17:31 Artorias: this was just WEIRD to tap
17:31 Artorias: i played it 3 times
17:31 Artorias: was still weird
17:31 Artorias: 00:03:521 (1) -
17:31 Artorias: this note feels weird
17:31 Artorias: because of this
17:31 Artorias: 00:02:235 (3,4) -
17:31 Musty: why? D:
17:31 Artorias: a fucking slider there is much better imo, but you can do w/e you want with that
17:32 Artorias: its just cuz
17:32 Artorias: you have 1/2
17:32 Artorias: 1/2
17:32 Musty: oh
17:32 Artorias: then 3rd note goes into 1/4 tap into the slider
17:32 Artorias: then note is also weird length
17:32 Artorias: and goes right into 1/2 again
17:32 Artorias: idk it just didnt make a lot of sense to me while playing
17:32 Artorias: also i am shitrank2000000K but i dont play for PP
17:32 Artorias: i can easily FC this map
17:32 Artorias: some good day
17:33 Musty: its fine its like the easiest part xD
17:33 Musty: i changed the beginning and this into sliders tho
17:33 Artorias: that's why i have a problem with it lol
17:33 Artorias: cuz is the easiest part
17:33 Musty: because yeah it sounds better aswell anyways
17:33 Artorias: :P told ya
17:33 Artorias: anyways where do we continue
17:33 Artorias: that you didnt turn into sliders?
17:34 Artorias: what the fuck is this
17:34 Artorias: 00:31:481 (2) -
17:35 Artorias: its just.. there. one random note and it never reappears again in the entire song/map
17:35 Musty: yeah but the sound is significant
17:35 Artorias: i mean you can have it cuz of the sound
17:35 Musty: it feels just empty if theres no note
17:37 Artorias: i get that this is very slow part
17:37 Artorias: but
17:37 Artorias: 00:21:092 (2) -
17:37 Artorias: this should get some more emphasis, it's just like a dead fish slider there
17:38 Musty: it has
17:38 Musty: it is way much more spaced than usual :p
17:39 Artorias: 01:05:618 (5,6,1) -
17:39 Artorias: this is too clunky
17:39 Artorias: look at the snap 4 does into 5
17:39 Artorias: then 5 has a differnt angle for the triple?
17:40 Musty: i think its fine honestly :(
17:40 Artorias: just stack that to be easier and more intuitive, making wide angle snaps for triples like that isn't cool imo
17:40 Artorias: it aint fine
17:41 Artorias: k lets take this the other way
17:41 Artorias: look at the motion of this
17:41 Artorias: 01:05:027 (1,2,3,4) -
17:41 Artorias: where in this thing, does a triplet like this fit in
17:41 Artorias: 01:05:618 (5,6,1) -
17:41 Musty: i don't see how this is not intuitive
17:41 Musty: i mean, you see clearly that there is a triple right there
17:41 Musty: the fact that the movement is not "smooth"
17:41 Musty: is that the song breaks apart
17:41 Artorias: its awkwardly angled
17:42 Musty: have to disagree there lol
17:43 Artorias: well modding is about disagreeing
17:43 Artorias: ive never seen anyone take a mod well
17:43 Artorias: anyways fuck that triplet then
17:43 Artorias: 01:17:441 (8) -
17:43 Artorias: tbh if you make this into 3 more jump notes, not large
17:43 Artorias: but noticable enough
17:43 Artorias: its SO ORGASMICALLY BETTER
17:44 Musty: yeah
17:44 Artorias: if you listen that 8 slider
17:44 Artorias: is the same part as this
17:44 Artorias: 01:26:899 (5,6,7,8) -
17:44 Artorias: more or less
17:44 Artorias: the intensity of the percussion is the same
17:45 Artorias: anyways, are you happy with that change?
17:45 Artorias: ill update map later to see what you did with these parts
17:46 Musty: yea
17:46 Artorias: ok next
17:46 Artorias: this thing
17:46 Artorias: 01:44:338 (3,4) -
17:46 Artorias: and this entire 10 note part
17:47 Artorias: best way to do this sound is
17:47 Artorias: 1 2 snaps vertically
17:47 Artorias: or somewhat vertically
17:47 Artorias: similar so these
17:47 Artorias: 01:44:042 (1,2) -
17:47 Artorias: just more vertical
17:48 Musty: nah because the sound is quite different
17:48 Musty: it would make it a bit inconsistent
17:48 Musty: if i manage to get the same pattern but with a different timespacing
17:48 Artorias: then pause
17:48 Artorias: then another reverse snap 1 2
17:49 Artorias: jesus christ that crash
17:50 Artorias: 01:44:042 (1,2) -
17:51 Artorias: fcking sharex sec
17:51 Artorias: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/MYUaEbQ.png
17:51 Artorias: kinda like this?
17:52 Artorias: it just is objectively better fitting the song i think.. how does it sound?
17:57 Musty: hey yeah sorry received an important call
17:58 Artorias: and I got crash into oblivion, then my internet wasnt working for 2 minutes for some reason
17:58 Musty: i dont like how this pattern looks though xD
17:58 Artorias: you can do w/e you want with the pattern
17:58 Artorias: just it has to be like this, 1->2
17:58 Artorias: 1->2 again
17:58 Artorias: but 1 is stacked on last 2
17:58 Musty: honestly i dont even want to do that aswell
17:59 Artorias: this is a very important part of the song
17:59 Artorias: and you map it with a .. standard jump into slider
17:59 Artorias: this is against my moral code to not speak out against shit like this
18:00 Artorias: turn down effects volume and checkwhat the song does
18:00 Artorias: its like a pause after this note
18:00 Musty: i found an alternative
18:00 Artorias: 01:44:190 (2) -
18:00 Artorias: and, you emphasize that pause with an antijump of sorts
18:00 Musty: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090381
18:02 Artorias: that's better but tell me this, where do you see the emphasis in that tapping pattern?
18:02 Artorias: you need to go 12 snap then antijump into 12
18:02 Artorias: thats the only way
18:02 Artorias: I feel like I'm gonna make a lot of enemies if i start modding stuff....
18:02 Musty: there is no way
18:02 Artorias: am i right?
18:02 Musty: you have to do 1-2-.-1-2
18:02 Musty: in the song
18:02 Musty: no way !
18:03 Musty: i dont think it feels right to do this
18:03 Artorias: sec sending u sample
18:05 Artorias: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ediIgMyXLrV2tLaDdUcXJYcFk
18:06 Artorias: throw this into your map folder
18:06 Artorias: it wont overwrite anything
18:06 Artorias: and check how it works
18:10 Musty: sure
18:12 Artorias: i'd be pleased if the spacing here was increased by a fuckton
18:12 Artorias: 02:35:471 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:13 Musty: yeah
18:13 Musty: i increased it a bit
18:13 Artorias: to 1.0x or smth
18:13 Artorias: 02:40:347 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - this as well. to 1.0 or 0.9?
18:13 Musty: sorry
18:13 Artorias: love this part of the song
18:13 Musty: im dealing with drama atm so im a bit slow lol
18:13 Artorias: irl drama?
18:14 Musty: nah
18:14 Musty: osu french
18:14 Musty: drama
18:14 Musty: lol
18:14 Musty: btw
18:14 Musty: 01:44:633 (2) -
18:14 Artorias: oh god
18:14 Musty: dont like doing this
18:14 Musty: to be honest
18:14 Musty: just feel empty
18:14 Artorias: do jumps there if you want
18:15 Artorias: just put the 2 where the slider starts
18:15 Artorias: so you have that antijump effect with the previous 12
18:15 Artorias: this another problem i had with this section
18:15 Artorias: 01:45:668 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
18:15 Musty: nah i dont like this honestly lol
18:15 Artorias: made it into a small stream
18:15 Musty: it feels like too generic
18:15 Musty: xD
18:15 Artorias: right in the heart
18:15 Artorias: fuck
18:15 Musty: haaha
18:16 Artorias: its about emphasis
18:16 Artorias: rn as your map stands
18:16 Artorias: its too the same with the rest of the map there
18:16 Artorias: meanwhile i think it deserves attention, that specific part
18:17 Musty: i hate those 1/2 1/2 patterns
18:18 Musty: it doesnt feel ok aswell to tap the last 2
18:19 Artorias: no shit its the antijump feel
18:19 Artorias: but antijumps are dead recently so no one wants to play them lol
18:19 Artorias: moving on, fuck that part
18:19 Artorias: dont change anything
18:19 Musty: lol
18:19 Musty: i actually changed
18:19 Musty: something
18:20 Artorias: dont rage or anything
18:20 Artorias: try this first blindly, dont check anything
18:20 Artorias: just reproduce it
18:20 Artorias: and tell me if its better
18:20 Artorias: cuz ithink its like at least 50% better
18:20 Artorias: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/CCCs2tI.jpg
18:20 Artorias: 03:36:062 (2,3,4,5) -
18:20 Musty: wait
18:20 Artorias: large slider moved 1/4 later
18:20 Musty: where
18:20 Musty: oh
18:20 Musty: nvm
18:21 Musty: its not good
18:21 Musty: so inconsistent
18:21 Musty: to place the slider on red ticks
18:22 Musty: i've like never did that
18:22 Musty: throughout the whole map
18:23 Artorias: k then you need to change the two notes
18:23 Artorias: its just too weird like this
18:23 Musty: why?
18:23 Artorias: 03:36:357 (3,4,5) -
18:23 Artorias: this thing
18:23 Musty: i actually placed the 4 somewhere else
18:24 Artorias: idk the problem was in the gameplay
18:24 Artorias: it felt bad
18:24 Artorias: nothing concrete
18:25 Artorias: this whole section felt wrong to me
18:25 Artorias: 03:36:062 (2,3,4,5) -
18:25 Artorias: from the 2 slider
18:25 Artorias: if you play it and its fine then ok
18:26 Artorias: you can also maybe do jumps for these sliders
18:26 Musty: it actually plays smooth to be fair :p
18:26 Artorias: 03:42:860 (5,1,1) -
18:26 Artorias: the song uses some sort of anti jump but for a song
18:26 Artorias: lowering density
18:26 Artorias: to provide emphasis
18:26 Musty: like the one you said earlier?
18:26 Musty: LUL
18:26 Artorias: so you could do that with jumps as well
18:26 Artorias: yeah but that was just 1 note
18:27 Artorias: this is like.. 12 or something
18:27 Musty: im sorry i wont lxD
18:27 Musty: i just feel like it's retarded to play
18:27 Musty: i personnaly hate playing this pattern
18:27 Musty: it always feel like im forced
18:27 Artorias: 03:53:943 (2) -
18:28 Artorias: how do you feel about this slider
18:28 Artorias: and the sound accompanying it?
18:28 Artorias: easily can be a 1.1 space stream here leading into the next stack or smth
18:28 Artorias: but it works as is somewhat
18:29 Artorias: definitely change this here tho
18:29 Artorias: 04:03:993 (6,1,1) -
18:29 Artorias: the snapping between the 6->slider->1 is like a triangle if you take leniance into account
18:30 Artorias: but its too close and uncomfortable
18:30 Artorias: esp considering everything else is nicely spaced and comfortable to play
18:30 Musty: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090586
18:30 Musty: is it better
18:31 Artorias: yeah i did somethign similar
18:31 Artorias: this is good
18:31 Artorias: you agreed to something :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:31 Artorias: wtf happened
18:32 Musty: hahaha
18:33 Artorias: also do w/e you want with what ill say but
18:33 Artorias: 04:26:899 (1,2,3,4) -
18:33 Artorias: for this section
18:33 Artorias: and the stream
18:33 Artorias: the SCREAMS and everything
18:33 Artorias: this is the spacing you're going for in the jumps and stream>?
18:34 Artorias: this is i'd say less than some relatively normal song parts before it
18:34 Musty: yeah because im not mapping them
18:34 Artorias: I'd bump SV to 1.35
18:34 Artorias: for starters
18:34 Artorias: for the entire kiai
18:36 Artorias: also last part
18:36 Artorias: 04:52:617 (1) -
18:36 Artorias: this section till the end or smth
18:36 Artorias: could be like WAY harder
18:36 Artorias: its like the finale of the song or smth herer
18:36 Musty: yeah but the song is not especially going nuts lol
18:36 Musty: its not mandatory
18:36 Artorias: it just felt anticlimactic compared to even the rest of the song
18:37 Musty: to go "HEY LETS MAKE THE SR GROW BECAUSE YOU ARE STRESSED UP THERE AND ULL MOST LIKELY BREAK BECAUSE XD WHY NOT XDDdD"
18:37 Musty: idk
18:37 Musty: it feels like pretty calm actuazlly lol
18:37 Musty: compared to the rest of the song
18:37 Artorias: you didnt mention PP :o
18:37 Artorias: someone would be like "I AM NOT PP MAPPUR LUL"
18:38 Artorias: tbh that's all with the map, you see i almost didnt say anything about most parts of it
18:38 Musty: haha
18:38 Artorias: choruses are good, except like 1 thing i said
18:38 Musty: that's true though
18:38 Artorias: start needs some work on the slow part
18:38 Artorias: ending i'd increase SV a bit
18:38 Artorias: and make it more snappy
18:38 Artorias: I'd also increase AR by 0.1
18:38 Musty: i dunno why i would do that
18:38 Artorias: OD too fucking low
18:38 Musty: because the end is like the same as the ending
18:39 Artorias: wat
18:39 Musty: beginning*
18:39 Musty: im tired
18:39 Musty: lol
18:39 Musty: ar is fine as it is though imo
18:39 Musty: it's maybe even a bit high imo lol
18:39 Artorias: 05:11:237 (2,3,4,5) -
18:39 Musty: 9 would fit perfectly with this map lol
18:39 Artorias: this could use a spacing increase as well tbh
18:41 Artorias: gonna try it ar9
18:41 Artorias: just th eend
18:41 Artorias: also lol
18:41 Musty: put the od to 8.5
18:41 Artorias: k
18:41 Artorias: btw
18:41 Artorias: i removed everything except ending
18:41 Artorias: after the solo
18:41 Artorias: map is barely 5 stars
18:41 Artorias: kek
18:41 Artorias: 04:51:113 (1) -
18:42 Artorias: everything after this, the finale, is 5 stars max
18:42 Artorias: OH GOD MAKE IT AR9 PLEASE
18:42 Artorias: its so beautiful
18:44 Musty: but i said that the ending doesnt necessarily need to be the hardest part !
18:44 Artorias: yeah yeah yeah
18:44 Artorias: go AR9 and recieve free hate
18:44 Artorias: from people who cant play AR9 lulz
18:45 Musty: to be honest
18:45 Musty: it fits
18:45 Artorias: Ar9?
18:45 Artorias: its too good i just played it ar9
18:46 Artorias: 05:12:715 (6,7,8) -
18:46 Artorias: why triple there btw
18:46 Musty: you can hear a tiny sound
18:46 Artorias: anyways, what AR are you doing?
18:46 Musty: i have no clue
18:47 Musty: i think ill just stick with 9.3
18:47 Musty: until someone says otherwise
18:47 Artorias: fcccckkk
18:47 Artorias: no go AR9
18:47 Artorias: or 9.1
18:47 Musty: i really like ar9
18:47 Artorias: fuck whatever anyone says, go AR9 lyl
18:47 Musty: i guess ill try lol
18:48 Musty: AR8 does work too !!
18:48 Artorias: Do i look like fucking Ekoro to you
18:48 Artorias: :P
18:48 Artorias: who tf can play 6 star AR8 nowadays, not me tbh
18:50 Musty: ok guess im updating
18:50 Artorias: btw idk what youre doing
18:50 Artorias: youre editing my diff this whole time ?
18:50 Musty: no im not
18:51 Artorias: oh must be lag then
18:51 Artorias: lul
18:51 Artorias: AR9 update hype?
18:51 Musty: ya
18:53 Artorias: noice
18:53 Artorias: btw you arent gonna give me KD for this are u?
18:55 Musty: sure i am giving
18:55 Artorias: shit i have to post log?
18:55 Artorias: from now on ill only mod 200K player first maps
18:57 Musty: i can post it if u want
18:58 Artorias: if u can, ill post yours on my map for kd
18:58 Musty: i already posted mine on ur map xd
18:58 Artorias: oh you posted already
18:58 Artorias: kek
18:58 Artorias: rofl

>.< !!
Nozhomi
Bop beep je suis baguette.

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  1. J'ai pas compris comment t'as NC au début. Je veux dire ça a beaucoup plus de sens de NC 00:04:378 (2,2,2) - (et ça continue) parce que ça emphasis la voix.
  2. 00:01:378 (1) - Pk t'embéter ? Juste curve le dans l'autre sens. Garde un flow simple pour la partie calme.
  3. 00:14:664 (2) - Tu map la voix right ? Alors pk tu skip 00:15:092 - ?
  4. 00:15:949 (3,4) - Blanket mieux et si possible fait un vrai triangle avec 00:14:664 (2,3,4) - .
  5. 00:18:092 (1,2) - Blanket dégeulasse.
  6. 00:23:235 (2,4) - ^
  7. 00:26:664 (2) - Much useless anchor points dans la dernière courbe XD
  8. 00:31:481 (2) - Heu oui ? Supprime moi ça merci.
  9. 00:30:742 (1) - Pourquoi NC ? Et pourquoi aussi à 00:33:697 (1) - ? Et lui aussi 00:37:540 (1) - ? Revois tes NCs BEAUCOUP !
  10. 00:52:540 (3) - C'est overmapped, aucun son n'est présent pour justifier le triplet.
  11. 00:58:155 (3) - ^ same la voix ne tombe pas sur le tic bleu, écoute bien à 25%.
  12. 01:17:589 (2,1) - J'imagine que c'est pas stack exprès ?
  13. 01:27:195 (7,1) - Want to kms fix tes blanket quand tu essayes d'en faire un go fix les autres maintenant XD
  14. 01:31:702 (6) - C'est moi ou tu l'as placé au seul endroit ou ça overmap ? Je veux dire ça passe soit à 01:31:554 - ou 01:31:850 - :c
  15. 01:35:027 (2,3) - Le jump est démentiel pour l'intensité de la musique. Je veux dire, il est aussi grand que 01:34:288 (6,1) - qui a 4x plus d'intensité. Nerf thx.
  16. 01:44:190 (2) - Berk c'est pas beau, fait une simple curve.
  17. 03:06:948 (3,4) - Ca ne mérite pas un spacing aussi élevé, la tension est redescendu après les 3 sliders.
  18. 03:09:756 (4,2) - Rip stack.
  19. 03:36:653 (5,6) - Ton rythme ne fonctionne pas, parce que le slider ne colle pas avec la voix. Il faudrait inverser ces deux là pour avoir ton slider à 03:36:801 - .
  20. 03:58:525 (8) - J'ai pas compris pourquoi le reverse. Il n'y a rien qui correspond à ça sur la musique.
  21. 04:07:613 (2) - Raté, la guitare c'est à 04:07:466 - .
  22. 04:43:160 (4) - Ca fait très slider random quand on regarde l'intégralité de ta map. Vaudrait mieux le remplacer par un truc plus "standard".
  23. 04:46:717 (1,3) - L'overlap gache tout ton pattern :c

Check tes NCs / triplets / blankets.
T'as des tonnes de trucs à polir avant de passer à la phase suivante.
Good luck dod
Mukyu~
Topic Starter
Musty

Nozhomi wrote:

Bop beep je suis baguette.

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  1. 00:31:481 (2) - Heu oui ? Supprime moi ça merci. non, il y a une note beaucoup trop forte pour l'ignorer
  2. 00:30:742 (1) - Pourquoi NC ? Et pourquoi aussi à 00:33:697 (1) - ? Et lui aussi 00:37:540 (1) - ? Revois tes NCs BEAUCOUP ! le deuxième est justifié par la nouvelle phrase mais par contre les autres oui, je vais refaire tous mes NCs en fait
  3. 00:52:540 (3) - C'est overmapped, aucun son n'est présent pour justifier le triplet. oui, mais c'est question de flow
  4. 00:58:155 (3) - ^ same la voix ne tombe pas sur le tic bleu, écoute bien à 25%. ^
  5. 01:17:589 (2,1) - J'imagine que c'est pas stack exprès ? c'est pas stack exprès mais pour une raison que j'ignore la note s'est décalée du mauvais côté
  6. 01:44:190 (2) - Berk c'est pas beau, fait une simple curve. c'est pas censé être là lol
  7. 03:36:653 (5,6) - Ton rythme ne fonctionne pas, parce que le slider ne colle pas avec la voix. Il faudrait inverser ces deux là pour avoir ton slider à 03:36:801 - . Je comprends pas pourquoi dire ça alors que ça ferait quelque chose de SUPER INCONSISTANT dans toute la map, j'ai JAMAIS commencé un slider long d'1 temps sur un tick rouge, alors je compte vraiment pas le faire ici, perso je trouve que ça fit vraiment bien lorsque l'on joue. Je veux pas spécialement fit à 100% le vocal pour faire quand même donner une diversité dans la map!
  8. 04:46:717 (1,3) - L'overlap gache tout ton pattern :c c'était volontaire, tu t'en doutes ^^

Check tes NCs / triplets / blankets.
T'as des tonnes de trucs à polir avant de passer à la phase suivante.
Good luck dod
Mukyu~
Garden
General
  1. video seems to be a good extra content but its resolution is too low to enjoy xd
  2. consider increasing ar a bit, it's after all a 200bpm extra diff
Star
  1. for the section before 00:27:735 - , mind adding some more whistles to vocal/pianos? i found 3 whistles there but i don't see the consistency
  2. 00:18:092 (2,3) - blanket aesthetic can be improved https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7294375
  3. 01:13:155 (4,1) - do you think spacing here is a bit too large compared with general spacing in this section
  4. 01:52:318 - add whistle or finish?
  5. 02:14:781 (1) - what about ctrl-g for the better emphasize with spacing?
  6. 03:14:485 (1) - move it somewhere around 460,160? some spacing variation can be nice for an emphasize here
  7. 03:16:259 (7) - 04:22:022 - 04:22:170 - 04:25:126 - etc. potential good spots for a drum-clap hitsound, your choice tho
  8. 03:39:165 (10,1) - swap nc, similar to 01:49:806 (1) -
  9. 03:36:801 - 03:41:530 - it plays a bit weird ignoring the vocal at the red ticks, consider rearranging some rhythm patterns
  10. 03:54:682 - to 03:58:820 - adding some whistles for guitar would be cool, just like u did to 03:59:411 - ~
  11. 04:04:436 - finish?
  12. 04:20:544 (1) - what about rotating a bit like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7295167? flows better with your slider shape
  13. 04:38:352 - wouldn't this be more accurate spot to end the kiai?
  14. 04:38:449 - conflicting volume/kiai setting for red/green lines
  15. 04:52:318 (1) - unnecessary nc imo
  16. 04:58:528 (1) - 04:59:119 (1) - 05:02:666 - 05:02:961 - 05:03:552 - 05:03:848 - etc. nice to have whistles to follow the piano track
decent quality imo but i personally don't feel like nominating it, hope the mod helps some and good luck!
Topic Starter
Musty

Garden wrote:

General
  1. video seems to be a good extra content but its resolution is too low to enjoy xd ok but i wont change because basically i cant find anything better lo
  2. consider increasing ar a bit, it's after all a 200bpm extra diff honestly think that ar9 fits perfectly even though i might consider raising it if i get too much complaints
Star
  1. 01:13:155 (4,1) - do you think spacing here is a bit too large compared with general spacing in this section it is justified because i want to make the emphasis for the new sentence she's starting on the (1) hitcircle
  2. 02:14:781 (1) - what about ctrl-g for the better emphasize with spacing? love the idea thanks
  3. 03:14:485 (1) - move it somewhere around 460,160? some spacing variation can be nice for an emphasize here good idea
  4. 03:36:801 - 03:41:530 - it plays a bit weird ignoring the vocal at the red ticks, consider rearranging some rhythm patterns i dont have the same feeling at all :(
decent quality imo but i personally don't feel like nominating it, hope the mod helps some and good luck!
thanks a lot for the mod anyways !!
PoNo
Vocal & Some irc short mod ;)

Good luck !
Topic Starter
Musty
i changed few blankets and placements regarding flow with Ponoyoshi,
also changed combo colors !
Mir
amazing song

[General]
- White combo color (5) is too bright, try to keep it under 220 luminosity http://i.imgur.com/sxfcYQV.png

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Avoid using combo colors with ~220 luminosity or higher during kiai times. They create bright pulses which can be unpleasant to the eyes.
- 04:38:449 - conflicting settings on timing lines

[Star]
- 00:11:235 (2) - generally sliders like this look better horizontal or vertical but it's minor xd
- 00:18:092 (1,2) - blanket is ever so slightly off // 00:23:235 (2,4) -
- 00:29:560 - hs volume is pretty high here, try dropping it to about 30%?
- 00:36:653 (4) - worth ncing for downbeat?
- 00:41:087 (1,2) - i'd swap these ncs as well and move the 2 closer so it overlaps a bit more
- 00:48:476 (1) - this slider makes the stream flow a bit weird imo... idk how you'd adjust this though since it's kinda in the corner
- 01:17:293 (7,1,2,3,4,1) - you could make a nice star out of this
- 01:20:988 (2) - has less spacing but the snare is on this and not 01:21:136 (3) - o.o
- 01:21:579 (1,2) - kinda also underemphasized imo
- 01:42:712 (4,1) - this is really harsh compared to the other sliders take 01:41:677 (1,2,3) - for example (whose visual spacing could be improved a bit too since 1 and 3 are a bit close)
- 01:55:865 (3,4,5) - you could equalize this spacing too
- 01:58:229 (1) - big curvy slider but nothing to blanket :( maybe http://i.imgur.com/NWdjlGC.png? This would give more emphasis to 3 as well and it's a strong vocal so checks out to me o:
- 01:59:411 (5) - perhaps worth ncing since it's a peak in intensity?
- 02:41:530 (4,1,2) - spacing here is a bit meh :?
- 03:13:008 (1,2) - maybe swap ncs?
- 03:16:702 (5,6,1) - not really optimal to force a sudden stop after a stream then a streamjump right after x.x
- 03:42:860 (5,1,1) - i feel like these'd be a lot cooler as circles instead of sliders :?
- 03:45:520 (2,3) - i don't really understand why these are stacked but 03:46:111 (5,6) - aren't when the music is almost the same o.o
- 04:08:722 (4,5,6,7) - could center these? http://i.imgur.com/Yf3EaqA.png
- 04:19:806 (1,2,3) - ow this pattern is really loose.. like the 2 doesn't really fit with the 1 and 3 if you know what i mean...?
- 04:20:397 (3,2,3,5) - could equalize this overlapping // 04:20:101 (2,3) - stack xd
- 04:43:160 (4) - stands out so much as a really out-of-place slider compared to a lot of your sliders so far, like they've all been fairly straight/curved but this is like WHOA POINTY SHARP THINGY and yeah :?
- 04:46:717 (1,2,3) - pretty sure these blankets are slightly off x.x
- 04:56:754 (9) - a lot of drums/percussion getting ignored here i think might be worth mapping

I'm really sorry but I can't exactly comment much on rhythm/patterning or anything like that since what mainly irks me is the aesthetic choices you make. They kind of clash with each other in places like 04:43:160 (4) - 02:05:323 (1) - (compare to the sliders around it) 02:08:870 (1) - 02:21:875 (6) - (compare shape to sound) and so on. They feel like they don't mesh with the other slider shapes you used so well imo

Thats all from me, sorry for the somewhat useless mod but as Garden said, the quality is decent but it could still use a lot of work in the aesthetics department

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Musty

Mir wrote:

amazing song

- 00:48:476 (1) - this slider makes the stream flow a bit weird imo... idk how you'd adjust this though since it's kinda in the corner i feel like it's absolutely fine as it is because as a player it does play fine
- 01:55:865 (3,4,5) - you could equalize this spacing too what for?
- 01:58:229 (1) - big curvy slider but nothing to blanket :( maybe http://i.imgur.com/NWdjlGC.png? This would give more emphasis to 3 as well and it's a strong vocal so checks out to me o: i don't get it you want me to make equal spacing just before then here you dont, im changing it anyways
- 03:42:860 (5,1,1) - i feel like these'd be a lot cooler as circles instead of sliders :? hate pattern.

I'm really sorry but I can't exactly comment much on rhythm/patterning or anything like that since what mainly irks me is the aesthetic choices you make. They kind of clash with each other in places like 04:43:160 (4) - 02:05:323 (1) - (compare to the sliders around it) 02:08:870 (1) - 02:21:875 (6) - (compare shape to sound) and so on. They feel like they don't mesh with the other slider shapes you used so well imo
i don't get it, Whereas it actually doesn't have obviously particular meaning, it doesn't mean it does play bad
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831705 this is the first map i came across and THERE ARE exactly those "weird sliders" without any particular meaning unless i am missing something. So i don't really get it. I have nothing against you, but i feel like my map just has to be to some standards established through a mappers vision and not exactly about how exciting the map might get while playing. Just reminding that we are playing a game..


Thats all from me, sorry for the somewhat useless mod but as Garden said, the quality is decent but it could still use a lot of work in the aesthetics department

Good luck~
Anyways thanks for the input, i mostly applied everything you mentionned ! I might try to figure out stuff "to improve" lol
Mir

Musty wrote:

Mir wrote:

amazing song

- 00:48:476 (1) - this slider makes the stream flow a bit weird imo... idk how you'd adjust this though since it's kinda in the corner i feel like it's absolutely fine as it is because as a player it does play fine
- 01:55:865 (3,4,5) - you could equalize this spacing too what for?
- 01:58:229 (1) - big curvy slider but nothing to blanket :( maybe http://i.imgur.com/NWdjlGC.png? This would give more emphasis to 3 as well and it's a strong vocal so checks out to me o: i don't get it you want me to make equal spacing just before then here you dont, im changing it anyways
- 03:42:860 (5,1,1) - i feel like these'd be a lot cooler as circles instead of sliders :? hate pattern.

I'm really sorry but I can't exactly comment much on rhythm/patterning or anything like that since what mainly irks me is the aesthetic choices you make. They kind of clash with each other in places like 04:43:160 (4) - 02:05:323 (1) - (compare to the sliders around it) 02:08:870 (1) - 02:21:875 (6) - (compare shape to sound) and so on. They feel like they don't mesh with the other slider shapes you used so well imo
i don't get it, Whereas it actually doesn't have obviously particular meaning, it doesn't mean it does play bad
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831705 this is the first map i came across and THERE ARE exactly those "weird sliders" without any particular meaning unless i am missing something. So i don't really get it. I have nothing against you, but i feel like my map just has to be to some standards established through a mappers vision and not exactly about how exciting the map might get while playing. Just reminding that we are playing a game..


Thats all from me, sorry for the somewhat useless mod but as Garden said, the quality is decent but it could still use a lot of work in the aesthetics department

Good luck~
Anyways thanks for the input, i mostly applied everything you mentionned ! I might try to figure out stuff "to improve" lol
Well I didn't mean anything against you either it's just from a playing perspective I can't actually play this properly, so my input is going to be a lot more instinct than practical knowledge.

There's nothing wrong with your map objectively speaking, we just don't have the same taste here, that's all it is.~
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