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Kano - Sentimental Love Heart

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rohasshiki
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Joined March 2016
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rohasshiki
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:03:35 PM

Artist: Kano
Title: Sentimental Love Heart
Source: Sentimental na Aiboshin
Tags: rohasshiki Kano sentimental na aiboshin IA Gumi shira shiratoi
BPM: 150
Filesize: 3507kb
Play Time: 03:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.31 stars, 122 notes)
  2. Normal (2.55 stars, 345 notes)
  3. Nostalgic (4.37 stars, 696 notes)
  4. Shira's Hard (3.2 stars, 462 notes)
Download: Kano - Sentimental Love Heart
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Second attempt at a beatmap, will hopefully finish this one this time lol

Kano a best

7/12/16: Uploaded map
7/13/16: Timing fixes and some edits to the map's difficulty by increasing jump sizes in the beginning sequence.
8/4/16: Added new GD and some hitsounding, more to be done.
8/9/16: Editing based on some mods, big thanks to Shiratoi and Yales! Overall difficulty no longer Extra, oh well, map's better this way.
9/25/16: Added a Normal and Easy difficulty, made some major edits to Nostalgic diff
2/2/17: We back, made some changes to deal with overmapping

Source for background is Oregairu.

Looking for any willing modders to NM, or potential M4M if I like the song. PM or reply in forum if you're interested. Also looking for anyone who wants to GD, details can be discussed in PMs. Thanks!
Last edited by rohasshiki , edited 22 times in total.
Rieri
905 posts
Joined December 2014
Rieri
Unrankable due to the drain time being less than 5 minutes. You might wanna make easy, normal, hard etc. or get guest difficulties for this if you want to get this ranked.
Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Shira
m4m from your q desudesu
General
  1. "Roha's Extra?" you don't need to add your name unless youre only making this one difficulty and that's it
  2. add "Shira" and "Shiratoi" to tags and a few others~
  3. still wrong offset :/ I think its 2297 instead
  4. no kiai? add one ! take a look at my gd for a reference
  5. only going to talk about rhythm here and maybe other tiny things
Roha's Extra
Rhythm
  1. 00:14:475 (9) - I think stream start here 00:14:475 - you can add a note here 00:14:275 -
  2. 00:16:275 - I don't really understand this stream. there isn't really a rhythm for it so maybe just delete 00:16:375 (2,4) -
  3. 00:25:275 - theres a loud and long beat here so maybe 00:25:275 (5) - 1/2 slider here and note 00:25:675 - here
  4. 00:26:275 (5) - not enough emphasis on this note bc of stream. since its and extra you don't really have to have equal spacing for stream so either you delete the stream or move the slider a little off from it
  5. 00:27:075 (2,3) - I don't hear a beat here so maybe just delete and overlap the slider with 00:26:875 (1) -
  6. 00:37:075 (6) - maybe notes here 00:37:075 - and 00:37:275 - instead because the triple sounds off
  7. 00:39:075 (1) - this would be a perfect chance for a triplet :D
  8. 00:40:275 (5) - why kick slider? I don't hear the stream and its a quiet part so would just change to 2 notes
  9. 00:47:875 - wat is this. the part here is so calm so why is there such a big stream all of a sudden D: I would put a triple here 00:47:875 - and 2 1/2 notes following
  10. 00:50:075 (6,7,1,2) - ctrl+g? for emphasis on the big white tick
  11. 00:54:675 (4) - instead of this long slider, you can add 2 notes that are overlapping like this : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5788021 fitting for an extra~
  12. 00:56:675 (5) - another emphasis thing
  13. 00:58:275 (3) - you can make this a 1/2 slider instead and start another 1/2 slider here 00:58:675 -
  14. 01:02:275 (1) - stream starts too early. 01:02:375 (2,4) - you can fix by deleting these 2
  15. 01:15:875 (1) - this slider is too long for this part. its not following the vocals or the instruments. I recommend something a 1/1 slider here 01:15:875 - and 01:16:475 - then a note here 01:17:075 -
  16. 01:23:875 (4,5,6) - these work fine by just repeating once !
  17. 01:27:675 (3) - start the slider on the white tick not end it here. you can ctrl+g 01:27:475 (2,3) - to fix as well
  18. 01:28:975 (3) - would delete to emphasize 01:28:875 (2) -
  19. 01:29:975 (2) - would also delete. same reason as ^
  20. 01:33:475 (1) - stream is too long. I recommend a 1/2 slider here 01:33:875 - and a 1/1 slider here 01:34:275 -
  21. 01:36:875 (2) - this seems awfully out of place since its long and it repeats. maybe something like a 1/2 slider here 01:36:875 - and 01:37:275 - then add notes here 01:37:175 - and 01:37:675 -
  22. 01:40:975 (2,4) - delete once again like my other reasons
  23. 01:43:875 (1) - instead of this stream, I think you need to emphasize these two parts 01:43:875 (1,3) - so delete 01:43:975 (2,4) -
  24. 01:44:775 - for this part, it would be ok to have a stream here since it follows the instruments so add note here
  25. 01:45:275 (7) - I would end this slider here 01:45:775 - and add a note here 01:45:875 -
  26. 01:46:375 (1) - this spinner isn't really needed since there isn't and "building up" part so would just delete and maybe add a 1/2 slider that's repeating here 01:46:875 - if you wanted to map the vocals
  27. 02:03:875 - you cant ignore kano holding a note here. I would make a slider starting here 02:03:875 - and ending here02:04:175 - keeping the double and slider
  28. 02:09:275 (6,7,1,2) - ctrl+g would make this rhythm sound better imo since it would have emphasis on the vocals here 02:09:475 - because of the triplet
  29. 02:10:075 (1,2,1) - as for these notes, you were following the vocals before but now youre following the instruments. this is no good since you didn't really "signal" the player that you were switching so maybe you could delete the triple and add a note here 02:10:275 -
  30. 02:23:075 - volume here is kind of loud. maybe add an inherited point here with 10-20% volume
  31. 02:28:675 (5) - this sounds off since you ended it on the big white tick so maybe end the slider here 02:29:275 - and add a note here 02:29:475 -
  32. 02:33:475 (4) - slider ends here 02:33:875 - since kano starts having a little emphasis here with the "nee"
  33. 02:46:275 - don't forget to change sv back to 1.00x here since it isn't as quiet compared to 02:45:475 (1) - but you might want to change it back to .50x here 02:47:075 -
  34. 02:54:375 - why not a double here ? itll be more exciting instead of just having a random pause
  35. 02:58:375 (3,5) - again, delete these 2 for emphasis on the white tick
  36. 02:59:275 - now for this part, there isn't anything wrong. its good :D. take this as an example, you can clearly hear the stream noise so this would be perfect to add one here unlike the some of the others which I stated.
  37. 03:03:675 (3) - this stream sounds good but its too early. delete 03:03:775 (4) -
  38. 03:09:475 - there's an unignorable beat here, I would add a note here 03:09:075 - and make the big slider starting here 03:09:475 - make sure its overlapping the note you added (if youre doing it) and slider ending here 03:14:275 - you also might want to decrease volume~

good luck!
poke me if you want me to address "aesthetics" and "flow"
incase you need the link again for m4m here : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/479795
Saoji
825 posts
Joined February 2013
Saoji
Hello, M4M !

[Roha's Extra]
  1. First of all, your samples are too loud. It's really rare you have to put them at 100% and let's say it would never happen for a pretty calm song like this. Try to put them at 70-75% or so~
  2. Audio preview time conflicts with Shira's Hard diff.
  3. Uninherited timing points conflict with Shira's Hard diff.
  4. 00:03:675 (1) - The strong note in the music is just at the end of this slider hence it would be cool if we could actually hit the note, like a single circle, or the beginning of a slider. It feels a bit odd you have to stop hitting when it's the strongest note of the stenza right. You should be really careful with it. Simply avoid sliders on red ticks unless the music really calls for it. It usually plays weird. This way your combo colors will be more structure and would make more sense than the way it is now.
  5. The combo colors. 00:08:675 (1) - You put one on the new stenza, which is the right thing, but right after that, on the same note here 00:10:275 (4) - you don't put any. Why do you prefer put one on a way lower tone here 00:10:875 (1) - ? I'll give a few examples:
    1. 00:10:275 (4) - Add NC then remove here 00:10:875 (1) -
    2. 00:11:875 (4) - Add NC then remove here 00:12:275 (1) -
    3. 00:13:075 (1) - NC doesn't make that much sense here neither, I'd remove and put it there 00:13:475 (3) - When the music actually changes.
  6. The flow is usually good, it always creates a sort of circle which is a good thing. But, I feel that sometimes, your patterns are really overdone.
    1. 00:11:675 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Feels a bit odd to move crusor at pretty high speed in all those directions whenether the music isn't that intense here.
    2. 00:18:475 (1,2,3) - ^ What in the music makes you feel you should put a jump just there? Sounds a bit random to me ._.
    3. 00:30:475 (4,5,6) - ^
  7. Some other things I could point out:
    1. 00:14:375 (9) - Overmapped
    2. 00:15:075 (1) - Wrong spacing with the rest of the stream
    3. 00:39:075 (1) - It's 1/3
    4. 00:47:875 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Sounds really overmapped eh ^^
    5. 00:58:275 (3) - should finish on the previous white tick (same as the previous slider), this aside, I really like the idea you had to put a 1/1 to slow down here, it emphasizes the vocal so greatly.
    6. 01:34:075 (7) - Try to stick on standard curve sliders at the beginning, it's hard enough to make a map look neat :p
    7. 01:15:875 (1) - Make it more curved :c
Alright, that's it, just some ideas of how to fix some stuff x)
Flow was okay, but please, be careful of those really overdone jumps, the song is pretty peaceful, you could go with 0 jump just as well it would fit and might be great too (I'm not kidding). And sometimes you tend to overmap (from triples to whole streams) so be careful with that as well.

Good luck :)
machspeed
47 posts
Joined May 2013
machspeed
Mod for Roha's Extra


I am an aesthetics mapper. I'll check out the major rhythm stuff, but it looks like you got a lot of support on that already. I'm just gonna throw this out there, I'm not a pro at osu!, or at mapping. Feel free to ignore anything that you want, they're all suggestions. :D

General
[*]As was mentioned already, you don't need your name in your own difficulty
[*]offset is 2,275 but might sound slightly better at 2,290 offset


A Note about Spacing
I got out a piece of paper to mark the distance between notes, and took the distance from the space between 00:05:675 (3,4) - this is what I would call a "jump" and I took the "normal" space from 00:02:475(1,2) - end of slider 1 to circle 2
Here's a list of the spacing stuff. Normal, and jump. I will specify short or long mostly, but you should be able to tell. I'm also no expert, and honestly the inconsistencies in the jumps weren't that hard to deal with, but fixing them might make your map look a little tiny bit prettier. :)

Spacing
[*]GIANT NOTE - your spacing seems to be a little inconsistent. I'd highly recommend going into the timing setup panel and using the "slider velocity multiplier" to standardize your jumps and streams. This would mean that you'd have to add boatloads of timing points, but a lot of mapper seem to use this method to ensure their spacing is always correct.
[*]00:05:675 (4,5) - is a hair too far.
[*]00:06:475 (2,3) - far
[*] 00:07:275 (2,3) - end of slider 2 to the beginning of slider 3 - far
[*]00:07:675 (3,4) - end of slider 3 to beginning of slider 4 - far
[*]00:08:075 (4,1) - end of slider 4 to beginning of next combo - short
[*]00:08:875 (1,2) - far
[*]00:09:196 (2,3) - too far for normal, but too short for jump... pick one?
[*]00:09:675 (5,1) - short
[*]00:10:406 (4,5) - in between normal and jump
[*]00:11:075 (1,2) - far
[*]00:11:416 (2,3) - in between N and J
[*]this would go on for the rest of the song, and changing jump lengths isn't bad, but you should standardize them across the map

Streams and 1/4 notes
[*]00:08:275 - let the lead-up stream flow into the slider, move 1,2,3 a little up to create a curve
[*]00:14:275 - this stream is not evenly spaced
[*]00:14:275 (14) - is too high
[*]00:16:275 - add a bit of curve to the notes or move 5 to the right a little for smooth curves
[*]00:19:075 - these four notes are closer together than the other 1/4th streams
[*]00:20:675 - fix curves
[*]00:20:675 (3) - nudge to the right?
[*]00:24:475 - this notes are not aligned on top of each other
[*]00:25:875 (3,4) - nudge up (fix the curves)
[*]00:47:875 - fix curves, consider changing sound of note 8 to let the player hear the emphasis on the down beat
[*]00:55:675 - stack is messed up a little
[*]00:56:275 - define the path of this stream, it's a little vauge
[*]01:02:275 - fix curves, also if this isn't an accelerated stream, then the notes are too far apart for you previous 1/4th note streams
[*]01:09:175 - keep it if you want, but the little jump created here is unexpected because the last stream that was like this was continuous
[*]01:10:075 - stack is not stacked (this was a previous note on two different occasions, and you can keep it, but it might look a little sloppy)
[*]01:26:075 - stacking, also looking at the previous groups of 3 circles that are timed like this you tend to stack these...you can keep it, but it's a bit inconsistent
[*]01:23:675 (2,3) - move these so they make a straight line with 4
[*]01:26:075 - stacking
[*]01:29:875 - notes are spaced further away from each other than the stream directly before it, really consider standardizing the accelerated stream distance and the normal stream distance
[*]01:31:475 - same deal here as with the comment directly above
[*]01:33:475 - if you're trying to mirror note 7, then condense the stream and make sure note 1 is horizontally aligned with the end of slider 7, if that's not what you were going for, then consider changing the curve of the stream to something that makes it flow into slider 7 a bit nicer
[*]01:40:875 - this stream is pretty far apart as far as your previous streams go, maybe place the notes slightly closer together
[*]01:42:675 - same deal with this stream. It's really far apart, but if this is your accelerated stream, then change all your other non-accelerated streams to be noticeably closer together
[*]01:43:875 - same as above. only use accelerated streams when really emphasizing something
[*]01:44:875 - this one's a bit closer, but still further apart than what seems to be the average range of your normal streams
[*]02:03:875 - has a little dip in it from 4-6, so maybe try and smooth out the path
[*]02:58:275 - fix the curves? the spacing on this stream is also a tiny bit irregular
[*]02:59:275 - this stream seems to go from regular to accelerated... not typically advisable, but you can keep it if you're attached to it
[*]03:03:675 - stream spacing is irregular
[*]03:05:875 - same as above

Shapes
[*]01:15:875 - make this curve look more uniform, it's sorta sloppy, and seems a little out of place
[*]01:29:275 - this shape is also irregular, maybe try and make it more symmetrical
[*]01:34:075 - slider 7 ends really strangely, in an almost hook. consider making this more of a normal curve
[*]01:41:475 - make this slider smoother
[*]01:45:275 - smooth the slider, try to get the slider tick in the corner of the turn. that gives the slider extra rhythm!
[*]02:21:475 - turn it into another shape, or make it more circular, just make it less off balance
[*]02:28:675 - make this slider more symmetrical. it's almost there, but the bottom half has a tighter bend than the upper half
[*]02:33:475 - this slider is less close. make the wiggles symmetrical
[*]02:34:275 - this one too
[*]03:09:075 - ok, the heart. it's nice, but you may want to add a corner point at the place where it dips in, somewhere around 03:10:975 - and try to get the end point and beginning points at the tip, at the bottom of the heart.
Kinda like this maybe? See the red dot at the apex of the heart? that'll make your life a lot easier.

I also recommend making the heart vertically first and then just rotate it however you want after you're certain that it's symmetrical.
Anyhow, I'm sorry that I couldn't be more helpful, but I tried. :oops: I hope you get this map ranked!
Ethan
226 posts
Joined September 2015
Ethan
hiyo from modreqs

shira
00:29:097 (4) - keep same pattern, maybe something like this

01:50:297 (3,4) - idk if these should be stacked, i think they should be separated

nostalgia
02:05:889 (1) - remove nc

gl ^w^
Troll
47 posts
Joined April 2014
Troll
hi from #modreqs!

Nostalgic
General:
- You should pay attention to the pace of the music and try to match that with your spacing. When the music is soft/relaxed, it becomes uncomfortable to play large jumps which would be ok in say, the choruses. For this map, this applies most in the beginning and the bridge. Instead of having the jumps in these sections more or less the same as in the choruses, have the distances slowly build up to match the intensity in the music. If this is confusing, intensity generally just means volume (I see you adjust your hitsound volume already).
- Your new combo placement seems a bit arbitrary some of the time, I would simply avoid placing them on upbeats, even when a pattern may start there.
- I'm guessing you changed a slider velocity or something and didn't resnap your stuff. Check AiMod (Ctrl+Shift+A) to fix the unsnapped stuff.

Specifics:
00:03:889 (2) - New combo here and not at 1
00:04:489 (4) - This slider just looks bad when all the other sliders around are just plain passthroughs, and there's nothing here particularly worth emphasizing.
00:10:089 (2,3) - These aren't properly stacked
00:40:689 (1) - Too close to the previous object
00:55:689 (3,4,5) - Just make it a normal stack
01:33:489 (1,2,3,4) - Overmapped, there are probably more of these that I missed, no drums or anything to back this one
01:36:089 (1) - A new combo here doesn't make sense, also the stack is messed up and I can't tell if it's intentional

02:13:690 - Insert break here

Good luck!
machspeed
47 posts
Joined May 2013
machspeed
Hi, it's me again.
Of course, I'd be happy to explain more about standardizing distances. Thanks for telling me that I wasn't being clear. It's not a major problem for you most of the time, but here's the basic premise. I wrote a lot, so i collapsed it... I'm kinda needlessly long-winded.

the stuff
There's usually three distinct speeds a map has. You should always know when you've entered into a different zone. With your map it's a little nebulous. Really, not a huge deal, because you seem to be placing things fairly well without distance snap.

The normal velocity is set in the timing menu where you see the bpm, offset, and slider tick rate.
  1. simply the rate at which most of your map goes
  2. you shouldn't have to mess with the slider velocity for this
The fast/slow velocity is set in the timing setup panel.
  1. After you've selected the point in time where you want to speed up or slow down the map, you can look over at the portion of the window that says "slider velocity multiplier" .75 will slow the map down, 1 will keep it at the velocity you set when you originally timed the map. 1.5 will speed the map up, and then there's custom... you can set it to whatever you want. When I say speed up, (any value multiplier over 1) I mean it makes the notes snap further away, making the player move faster. On the other side,(any value multiplier under 1) slowing the map down means that the the distance snap is closer, making the player move their cursor slower. This is useful if you want to emphasize the movement of a song. If there's a part in the middle where the song feels like it's taking a breather, before getting back to tempo, you can slow the map down to mirror that. You don't have this particular problem, because the song is pretty consistent.
You know this already because you've used it already.

When you have jumps in your map, this is where the fast velocity should be used. If you use it every time you want the player to "jump" then players can begin to get a feel for how far your jumps are, making the process more intuitive. There are lots of instances in which you want to make irregular jumps however, but are almost always timed with special cues in the music, so they don't come out of nowhere.

Example:
01:47:875 - you have a series of 4 jumps. 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, & 4-5.
If you added a timing point at 01:47:875 then you could use the velocity multiplier to make sure these notes snapped the same distance away from each other.

In the case of your map the streams you have sometimes have slightly varying distances between notes. It shouldn't actually screw players up too bad, but sometimes it looks less clean than it could be. The way to fix this is to set timing points around the stream and setting the slider velocity to a value you deem appropriate. If you do this for all your streams and keep distance snap on, then all your streams will be evenly spaced no matter what.

Accelerated Stream
  1. spaced these notes farther apart than normal
  2. it creates a rushed effect that is best used when the music gets quick, or frenzied
Regular Stream
  1. usually keep the cursor at about the same velocity as sliders
  2. it is also normal for regular streams to be slightly slower than the velocity of a slider
My last bit is that your distance snap seems to be snapping your notes really far away. I'd look into that some more because your sliders aren't that fast. I personally keep distance snap on all the time, and just change velocity, but you probably have a different mapping style, so don't think too hard about this stuff. :lol:
Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Shira

Ethan wrote:

hiyo from modreqs

shira
00:29:097 (4) - keep same pattern, maybe something like this i think my current pattern has more emphasis :/

01:50:297 (3,4) - idk if these should be stacked, i think they should be separated i thought it was fine but if someone says something about it again ill change

gl ^w^
no change
thank you for the mod !
Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Shira
audio changes

~
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 55097
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Sentimental Love Heart
TitleUnicode:Sentimental Love Heart
Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:Kano
Creator:rohasshiki
Version:Shira's Hard
Source:Sentimental na Aiboshin Kano
Tags:shira shiratoi kano sentimental na aiboshin love heart IA gumi
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BeatmapSetID:480779

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208,348,119697,2,0,L|236:292,4,35
272,296,120197,2,0,L|288:352,4,35
320,284,120697,6,0,B|360:252|360:252|364:208|364:208|428:176,1,140
484,156,121297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,64,121497,2,0,P|408:84|352:92,1,105
336,80,121897,2,0,P|332:120|320:156,1,70
248,88,122297,6,0,P|196:76|124:124,1,140
204,160,122897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,248,123097,2,0,P|224:244|292:252,1,140
284,336,123697,2,0,P|214:342|144:338,1,140
64,240,124297,6,0,P|80:196|108:168,1,70
112,96,124697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,80,124897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,92,125097,2,0,P|292:152|312:196,1,105
328,212,125497,6,0,P|272:216|240:232,1,70
184,256,125897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,312,126097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,312,126297,2,0,P|380:296|404:268,1,70
460,208,126697,2,0,L|480:252,3,35
428,192,127097,6,0,P|348:176|284:172,1,140
180,200,127697,2,0,P|209:136|246:76,1,140
324,52,128297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,52,128497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,116,128697,5,0,0:0:0:0:
348,256,129097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,300,129497,5,0,0:0:0:0:
216,212,129697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,280,129897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,76,130297,6,0,L|344:96,1,125.999996154785
88,156,131097,2,0,L|120:28,1,125.999996154785
192,192,131897,6,0,L|76:280,1,125.999996154785
288,236,132697,2,0,L|272:92,1,125.999996154785
436,292,133497,6,0,L|349:330,1,94.499997116089
328,336,133897,2,0,P|348:280|352:248,1,62.9999980773926
360,184,134297,2,0,P|304:196|252:144,1,125.999996154785
184,100,134897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,140,135097,6,0,P|100:72|124:24,1,94.499997116089
120,32,135497,2,0,P|172:40|196:36,1,62.9999980773926
260,24,135897,2,0,P|264:76|260:172,1,125.999996154785
280,236,136497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,180,136697,6,0,P|408:164|444:180,1,99.7499973363877
460,184,137097,2,0,P|440:232|436:268,1,66.4999982242585
388,312,137497,2,0,L|240:312,1,132.999996448517
276,224,138097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,176,138297,6,0,L|192:104,1,66.4999982242585
124,204,138697,2,0,L|96:280,1,66.4999982242585
200,264,139097,2,0,P|248:256|300:184,1,132.999996448517
296,104,139697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,76,139897,6,0,L|448:92,1,66.4999982242585
388,164,140297,2,0,L|356:228,1,66.4999982242585
460,216,140697,2,0,L|548:188,1,66.4999982242585
488,312,141097,2,0,L|408:292,1,66.4999982242585
340,304,141497,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141597,12,0,144697,0:0:0:0:
240,148,157497,6,0,P|288:172|316:180,1,56
168,104,157897,2,0,P|160:152|164:184,1,56
80,248,158297,2,0,P|128:236|160:236,1,56
232,276,158697,2,0,P|220:232|216:200,1,56
304,224,159097,6,0,P|344:236|376:240,1,56
416,168,159497,2,0,P|460:160|488:144,1,56
416,80,159897,2,0,P|389:70|361:67,1,56
276,88,160297,2,0,P|236:88|208:80,1,56
136,72,160697,6,0,P|128:128|132:176,1,84
136,176,161097,2,0,P|88:188|72:200,1,56
24,256,161497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,304,161697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,276,161897,5,0,0:0:0:0:
192,276,162097,2,0,P|244:288|316:268,1,112
360,216,162697,2,0,P|380:252|380:292,1,56
440,188,163097,2,0,P|424:128|428:68,1,112
356,32,163697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,112,163897,6,0,B|296:152|252:176|252:176|256:156|248:136,1,112
224,72,164497,2,0,P|148:88|96:88,1,112
40,128,165097,2,0,P|72:168|84:192,1,56
104,260,165497,5,0,0:0:0:0:
104,260,165897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,296,166097,2,0,P|220:288|252:292,1,56
320,264,166497,2,0,P|368:264|396:252,1,56
448,216,166897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,160,167097,6,0,P|316:204|320:260,1,84
320,264,167497,6,0,L|204:148,1,140
144,124,168097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,216,168297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
132,312,168497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
24,180,168697,6,0,L|88:124,1,70
116,216,169097,2,0,L|248:284,1,140
320,240,169697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,164,169897,2,0,P|352:124|352:84,1,70
288,28,170297,6,0,P|256:72|196:108,1,105
192,100,170697,2,0,P|224:152|232:184,1,70
248,264,171097,2,0,P|288:232|388:208,1,140
344,308,171697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,243,171897,6,0,L|352:195,1,70
344,308,172297,2,0,L|272:364,1,70
248,264,172697,2,0,L|208:224,3,35
252,216,173097,2,0,P|256:168|264:124,1,70
284,52,173497,6,0,L|152:76,1,105
164,64,173897,2,0,P|168:104|156:156,1,70
80,96,174297,2,0,P|72:180|88:244,1,140
96,316,174897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,296,175097,6,0,P|240:300|340:292,2,140
252,208,176097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,184,176297,2,0,P|384:180|408:116,1,105
420,100,176697,2,0,L|472:240,1,140
432,304,177297,5,0,0:0:0:0:
348,324,177497,2,0,B|296:304|244:340|200:316,1,140
124,304,178097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,304,178297,6,0,B|156:264|160:232|160:232|152:192|192:152,1,140
252,160,178897,2,0,P|216:112|140:100,2,140
336,248,179897,6,0,L|360:124,1,105
364,128,180297,2,0,L|416:188,1,70
384,32,180697,2,0,L|240:76,1,140
172,48,181297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,84,181497,6,0,B|112:120|96:164|96:164|56:164|28:196,1,140
92,244,182097,2,0,P|112:296|128:320,1,70
208,264,182497,2,0,P|272:280|308:280,1,70
352,240,182897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,188,183097,6,0,P|256:140|256:44,1,140
340,112,183697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,156,183897,2,0,L|472:240,1,70
352,240,184297,2,0,L|328:328,1,70
336,144,184697,6,0,P|368:92|464:80,1,140
312,28,185297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,76,185497,2,0,P|176:104|112:108,1,105
116,108,185897,2,0,P|120:168|112:200,1,70
52,232,186297,6,0,P|112:260|188:228,1,140
256,184,186897,2,0,B|284:232|260:284|260:284|328:272|380:308,1,210
440,248,187697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,248,187897,5,0,0:0:0:0:
464,84,188297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,116,188697,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,184,188897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,104,189097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,189497,12,0,194297,0:0:0:0:
yumesaki-hikari
16 posts
Joined January 2014
yumesaki-hikari
Just for you roha.

Nostalgic
00:05:689 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - Unnecessarily large spacing; would work better with increasing distance, corresponding with the increasing volume in the music.
00:08:289 (1,2,3,4) - Mapped to nothing. Similar rhythm to the previous part; does not call for a burst even though it plays well. Another slider will do.
00:14:689 (3) - Slider would look better if aligned with the previous slider.
00:19:089 (1,2,3,4,5) - Quad and slider looks unrefined, quads would look better if curved, slider is way too low, would look better on (336, 144).
00:27:489 (2) - Doesn't flow well from the previous slider.
00:40:690 - Spacing makes it feel like a 1/4 beat between the end of the last slider and the start of the new slider.
00:56:289 (1,2,3,4,1) - The music does not call for such an ugly burst.
00:59:089 (1,2) - Jumps would work better than stacks here, as your next two circles are spaced far apart.
01:01:489 (4) - Looks bad and flows bad if you follow the kickslider. Moving the sliderend slightly downwards would look better.
01:09:089 (4,5) - Would work better if the slider is spaced away from the triple.
01:22:289 (3,4) - Jumps would work better here.
01:23:889 (4,5,6) - Unnecessary buzz sliders mapped to nothing.
01:29:289 (5) - Ugly slider.
01:31:889 (6) - Would work better if slightly curved.
01:36:289 (2) - Flows bad.
01:41:489 (4) - Ugly, would work better without the two extra points.
01:42:689 (2,3,4,5,6) - Ugly spacing, overmapped for a slower part of the song.
01:45:889 (8) - Lacks impact; would work better if the slider lasts for 3/4 beat with silent sliderend, with a circle on the new beat.
01:50:289 (1,2,3,4) - Flows bad, plays bad.
01:54:489 (2) - Would be better if circle further away from the kickslider.
01:55:889 (1,2,3) - Bigger curves, better blankets.
01:58:089 (4,5,6,7,8) - Ugly quint, mapped to nothing.
01:58:889 (1,2) - Spaced badly in comparison with the rest of the quint, quint mapped to nothing.
02:01:289 (1,2) - Would work better if spaced.
02:02:889 (2,3) - Same as above.
02:09:489 (7,1,2) - Mapped to nothing.
02:21:489 (1) - Ugly.
02:23:689 (1) - This timing section is completely overmapped. You even lowered the slider velocity for it, the spacing between the circles in this section is too large.
02:24:289 (3,4) - Some distance would be better than a stack.
02:38:689 (4,5) - Works better spaced.
02:40:289 (4,5) - Same as above.
02:46:289 (3) - A quint would work better than a slider here.
02:46:889 (4,1) - Mapped to nothing; removing it will emphasize the bass drum on the next beat.
02:50:290 (6) - Would work better if seperated into two sliders of 1/2 beat each, or 1/2 singletaps.
02:51:489 (2,3,4) - Doesn't call for a triple, plays weird.
02:52:089 (6,7,8) - Same as above.
02:52:689 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unnecessary quint.
02:53:489 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above.
02:56:890 (2,3,4) - Unnecessary triple.
03:04:489 (1,2,3) - Would play better spaced.
03:06:289 (7) - Flows bad, too curved compared to the previous quad.
03:09:490 (6) - Looks bad, would be better with more slider points. Manipulate the slider velocity or the slider length to make it last for 3 more beats to fit the end of the long note.
[ D Myung ]
142 posts
Joined April 2014
[ D Myung ]
Yohoo! o/ M4M From My Modding Queue


Nostalgic
00:11:090 (3) // 00:11:690 (5) Stack
00:33:890 (5) // 00:34:290 (1) Stack
00:39:690 (2) // 00:40:090 (4) Stack
00:56:090 Start the stream here
01:06:290 (2) // 01:06:890 (5) Stack
01:21:690 (1) // 01:22:490 (4) Blanket
01:34:290 (6) This slider starts at 01:34:090
01:39:290 (4) Move this note to make a perfect polygon form
01:40:490 A stream wich finish at 01:41:490 linking with this slider could be better
02:25:290 (3) // 02:26:290 (2) Stack
02:47:890 (4) // 02:48:490 (2) Blanket
02:49:090 (4) // 02:49:890 (3) Stack
02:52:490 Start the stream here and link with this slider 02:53:090 (4)
03:02:690 (5) // 03:03:490 (2) Blanket

Btw... Move to the correct place the timing points. Good luck with the map :p

I hope that my mod has been helpful :|

PS: Mod Insane please xd
Caput Mortuum
1,854 posts
Joined March 2016
Caput Mortuum
hi.

[Nostalgic]
00:02:997 (4) - overmapped. doesn't represent anything.
00:08:297 (1,2,3,4) - overmapped.
00:09:397 (4) - ^
00:15:797 (4) - ^
00:20:197 (2) - ^
00:27:897 (1,2) - how about putting slider first and then the circle? read here -> t/58959
00:31:097 (1) - there should be nothing on the blue tick.
00:31:698 - the triplet should be here not in 00:31:898.
00:36:498 - ^, not in 00:36:898.
00:42:497 (3,4,5) - remove (4).
00:43:097 (7) - there should be nothing on the blue tick.
00:44:697 (3,4,5) - ^ I won't say this again.
00:55:297 (1,2,3,4,5) - this doesn't represent anything. better leave it empty.
01:01:297 (3,4,5,6,7) - again, overmapped.
01:09:297 (5,6,7) - this is very weird. try to start the stream at the sliderend.
01:23:897 (4,5) - overmapped.
02:01:897 (3,4,5,6) - ^
02:20:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ^



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That's all. Don't forget to mod my map~ https://osu.ppy.sh/s/509651 and please, I ask you, to reply to mods.
ononoki
7 posts
Joined October 2014
ononoki
[Nostalgic]

General-

-Spacing varies a lot in non-jump sections, I would stick to a set distance snap
-many objects are not snapped to grid, open ai mod in the top left to see which
-Tags conflict with Shira's Hard diff. (aimod)
-Audio preview time conflicts with Shira's Hard diff. (aimod)

00:02:997 (4) - remove this, overmapped
00:08:297 (1,2,3,4) - overmapped
00:13:897 (10,1) - if you want to add flair like the stream above ^, this would be the place to do it instead of overmapping
00:16:297 (1) - spacing here gets very awkward
00:24:897 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this part could be made a lot more enjoyable to play
00:26:897 (1,2) - since you map these triplets previously, might want to stay consistent and add it here
00:31:097 (1) - awkward spacing
00:36:897 (6,7,8) - overmapping
00:48:897 (1) - there are a lot like these, where you start or end with a very small jump then get larger, keep them constant
00:49:497 (4,5) - decide whether or not you want to add the triplets
01:14:697 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - made up rhythm
01:22:897 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - spacing between triplets is inconsistent, the first triplet is spaced further apart
02:20:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - spice it up a bit?
02:52:998 (4,5) - again, make sure every note in all of your streams are spaced the same way
02:55:898 (4,5,1) - you transition from straight sliders to curved, maybe make them all curved
02:59:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the shape of this stream seems weird, i would curve it down more
03:06:297 (7) - make this curved not an angle, since you have the circular stream before it
03:09:498 (4) - this is super cute

in general, the map gets much better as it progresses, the quality of your sliders improves since you can tell you put more work into them (not bland curves, more wispy), maybe go back and improve this earlier on.

[easy]

general -

-there are certain parts that are much harder than the rest of the song, such as 00:16:698 (1) - onwards, consider bringing the rest of the map closer to this level (without increasing the diff above 1.5) or making this section less hard (the timing is different from the rest of the song, having to hit the long slider after the back and forths)
-sliders are boring, make them prettier <3

00:08:698 (1) - since the drums come in here, maybe switch it up a bit to further spaced singles?
00:27:898 (1,2,3) - switch directions somewhere
00:51:498 (3,4,5) - change some of the earlier sliders to these short sliders + 1 note, makes it more interesting
01:04:698 (3) - this felt like one too many back and forths
01:14:298 (5) - this section needs a change, consider single notes between with shorter sliders, or changing from straight to different shaped sliders
01:19:098 (1,2,3) - dont get in the habit of making everything always circle shaped, switching direction makes for a more immersive map
01:33:498 (2) - ^
02:24:698 (1) - make these next few sliders interesting shapes, too many boring curves



Great map :)
Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Shira
-- to modders --

please refrain from modding my difficulty as i'm in the middle of remapping ;;
rohasshiki
84 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
rohasshiki

Eraser wrote:

hi.

[Nostalgic]
00:02:997 (4) - overmapped. doesn't represent anything. agreed
00:08:297 (1,2,3,4) - overmapped. agreed
00:09:397 (4) - ^ yep changed
00:15:797 (4) - ^ im going for a triples theme, but if this comes up some more ill prob change it
00:20:197 (2) - ^ same as above
00:27:897 (1,2) - how about putting slider first and then the circle? read here -> t/58959 good call
00:31:097 (1) - there should be nothing on the blue tick. changed
00:31:698 - the triplet should be here not in 00:31:898. yep
00:36:498 - ^, not in 00:36:898. changed
00:42:497 (3,4,5) - remove (4). i feel like this triple works
00:43:097 (7) - there should be nothing on the blue tick.agreed
00:44:697 (3,4,5) - ^ I won't say this again. kk
00:55:297 (1,2,3,4,5) - this doesn't represent anything. better leave it empty. true but i like them. ugh it hurts to remove
01:01:297 (3,4,5,6,7) - again, overmapped. i feel that this fits since theres nothing really to map it to that would work imo
01:09:297 (5,6,7) - this is very weird. try to start the stream at the sliderend. I thought it was fine, but this has been said several times so ill change it
01:23:897 (4,5) - overmapped. i like it, but ill think about it
02:01:897 (3,4,5,6) - ^ changed
02:20:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ^ I think it actually fits in, but I'll see who else says it.



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That's all. Don't forget to mod my map~ https://osu.ppy.sh/s/509651 and please, I ask you, to reply to mods.
Which diff do you want me to mod?
rohasshiki
84 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
rohasshiki

ononoki wrote:

[Nostalgic]

General-

-Spacing varies a lot in non-jump sections, I would stick to a set distance snap
-many objects are not snapped to grid, open ai mod in the top left to see which
-Tags conflict with Shira's Hard diff. (aimod)
-Audio preview time conflicts with Shira's Hard diff. (aimod)

00:02:997 (4) - remove this, overmapped changed
00:08:297 (1,2,3,4) - overmapped changed
00:13:897 (10,1) - if you want to add flair like the stream above ^, this would be the place to do it instead of overmapping not sure what you meant
00:16:297 (1) - spacing here gets very awkward agreed, changed
00:24:897 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this part could be made a lot more enjoyable to play i tried
00:26:897 (1,2) - since you map these triplets previously, might want to stay consistent and add it here deliberately not to emphasize the bass hit
00:31:097 (1) - awkward spacing changed
00:36:897 (6,7,8) - overmapping changed
00:48:897 (1) - there are a lot like these, where you start or end with a very small jump then get larger, keep them constant changed
00:49:497 (4,5) - decide whether or not you want to add the triplets i dont really think it fits the flow, despite being in the song
01:14:697 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - made up rhythm true
01:22:897 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - spacing between triplets is inconsistent, the first triplet is spaced further apart changed
02:20:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - spice it up a bit? i tried :p
02:52:998 (4,5) - again, make sure every note in all of your streams are spaced the same way yup, thanks
02:55:898 (4,5,1) - you transition from straight sliders to curved, maybe make them all curved good call
02:59:297 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the shape of this stream seems weird, i would curve it down more i tried
03:06:297 (7) - make this curved not an angle, since you have the circular stream before it yup changed
03:09:498 (4) - this is super cute thanks <3

in general, the map gets much better as it progresses, the quality of your sliders improves since you can tell you put more work into them (not bland curves, more wispy), maybe go back and improve this earlier on.

[easy]

general -

-there are certain parts that are much harder than the rest of the song, such as 00:16:698 (1) - onwards, consider bringing the rest of the map closer to this level (without increasing the diff above 1.5) or making this section less hard (the timing is different from the rest of the song, having to hit the long slider after the back and forths)
-sliders are boring, make them prettier <3

00:08:698 (1) - since the drums come in here, maybe switch it up a bit to further spaced singles? im not sure what the rules are with spacing in easy diffs, ill ask about it
00:27:898 (1,2,3) - switch directions somewhere
00:51:498 (3,4,5) - change some of the earlier sliders to these short sliders + 1 note, makes it more interesting
01:04:698 (3) - this felt like one too many back and forths
01:14:298 (5) - this section needs a change, consider single notes between with shorter sliders, or changing from straight to different shaped sliders
01:19:098 (1,2,3) - dont get in the habit of making everything always circle shaped, switching direction makes for a more immersive map
01:33:498 (2) - ^
02:24:698 (1) - make these next few sliders interesting shapes, too many boring curves



Great map :)
didn't have time for the easy mod, ill respond when i have time
Caput Mortuum
1,854 posts
Joined March 2016
Caput Mortuum
any diff would be fine~
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This modding thread has been migrated to the new "modding discussions" system. Please make sure to re-post any existing (and unresolved) efforts to the new system as required.
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