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Wagakki Band - Tengaku [Taiko]

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Raiden
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016 at 21:40:15

Artist: Wagakki Band
Title: Tengaku
Tags: cover vocaloid ゆうゆ yuuyu 鈴華ゆう子 Suzuhana Yuuko
BPM: 232
Filesize: 7631kb
Play Time: 05:01
Difficulties Available:
  1. Heavenly Oni (5,76 stars, 1773 notes)
  2. Oni (4,63 stars, 1646 notes)
Download: Wagakki Band - Tengaku
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Ascendance
ok my first ever taiko mod desu

2016-07-12 13:37 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1025779 Wagakki Band - Tengaku [Heavenly Oni]]
2016-07-12 13:37 Ascendance: helo
2016-07-12 13:37 Raiden: T E N G AK U
2016-07-12 13:37 Raiden: what's up
2016-07-12 13:38 Ascendance: i mod B)
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: oh
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: irc??
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: ._.
2016-07-12 13:38 Ascendance: sure
2016-07-12 13:38 Ascendance: easier to get feedback
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: *rolleyes*
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: I hope I make you a great taiko bn so you can circlejerk me
2016-07-12 13:38 Raiden: :]
2016-07-12 13:38 Ascendance: :]
2016-07-12 13:39 Ascendance: 00:32:557 (6,7,8,9,10) - seems better if you did kdd_k (deleting 00:32:751 (9) - cause there's no sound)
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: let's see
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: how nazi you are
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: press test
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: play it
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: and tell me what plays best
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: kdd k
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: or kkddk
2016-07-12 13:39 Raiden: :(
2016-07-12 13:40 Ascendance: uh i cant play taiko :(
2016-07-12 13:40 Ascendance: wouldnt a triplet play better?
2016-07-12 13:40 Raiden: definitely no
2016-07-12 13:40 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 13:40 Ascendance: hm ok
2016-07-12 13:40 Ascendance: xd
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: don't focus on 25% tho pls
2016-07-12 13:41 Ascendance: oko
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: shit
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: but
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: there is a big impairment
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: one big way to understand taiko
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: is being proficient at playing it
2016-07-12 13:41 Raiden: because of how mapping works here
2016-07-12 13:41 Ascendance: yeah
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: maybe like with ctb i'll learn by mapping and modding more
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: :C
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: o3o
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: I just tested kdd k
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: it flows like shit
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: LOL
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: fuk
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: o well xdd
2016-07-12 13:42 Ascendance: 00:39:023 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - tbh maybe the colors should be inverted
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: 00:44:971 (63,64,65,66,67) - this is not ddddd 1/4 either
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: it's some weird snap
2016-07-12 13:42 Raiden: but it works as 1/4 ddddd
2016-07-12 13:43 Ascendance: cause 00:39:023 (19,20,21) - has 00:39:023 (19) - as a higher pitch noise
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: whaaaat
2016-07-12 13:43 Ascendance: but you have 00:39:109 (20,21) - as k instead
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: I don't map to pitch
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: :p
2016-07-12 13:43 Ascendance: o
2016-07-12 13:43 Ascendance: what do u map to xd
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: instruments
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: drums
2016-07-12 13:43 Raiden: mostly
2016-07-12 13:44 Ascendance: still in that case of the drums, 00:39:023 (19) - should probably be the k
2016-07-12 13:44 Ascendance: idk
2016-07-12 13:44 Ascendance: moving on
2016-07-12 13:44 Raiden: not really
2016-07-12 13:44 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 13:44 Ascendance: lul
2016-07-12 13:44 Ascendance: starting off well :ok_hand:
2016-07-12 13:45 Raiden: it's fine
2016-07-12 13:45 Raiden: lol
2016-07-12 13:45 Raiden: another big part of modding is understanding what the mapper is following
2016-07-12 13:46 Ascendance: yeah
2016-07-12 13:46 Ascendance: idk about "flow" in taiko so it's a bit hard for me
2016-07-12 13:46 Raiden: oh yeah
2016-07-12 13:46 Raiden: flow
2016-07-12 13:46 Ascendance: 00:49:239 (9,10,11) - maybe ddk instead here would be nicer
2016-07-12 13:46 Raiden: #modhelp insists that there is no flow in taiko
2016-07-12 13:46 Raiden: XD
2016-07-12 13:47 Ascendance: (it sounds nicer anyways imo)
2016-07-12 13:47 Ascendance: lol ive never touched #modhelf
2016-07-12 13:47 Ascendance: help*
2016-07-12 13:47 Raiden: that'd be disrupting the drum patterning
2016-07-12 13:47 Raiden: 00:49:368 (11,12,13,14) - is ddkd
2016-07-12 13:47 Raiden: the kkd is for additional purposes
2016-07-12 13:48 Ascendance: if you switch it then it turns to kdkd, wouldnt that better match the up-down noise here?
2016-07-12 13:48 Raiden: up-down ?
2016-07-12 13:48 Raiden: what did I say about pitch
2016-07-12 13:48 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 13:48 Ascendance: FUK
2016-07-12 13:48 Ascendance: im sorry master
2016-07-12 13:48 Raiden: dont say that
2016-07-12 13:48 Raiden: im not a master
2016-07-12 13:48 Ascendance: well you kinda did it 00:50:402 (19,20,21,22) -
2016-07-12 13:48 Ascendance: i figured you can do the same at 00:49:368 (11,12,13,14) -
2016-07-12 13:49 Raiden: so you mean
2016-07-12 13:49 Raiden: do it on both?
2016-07-12 13:49 Ascendance: yeah
2016-07-12 13:49 Raiden: instead of keeping the variation?
2016-07-12 13:49 Raiden: :p
2016-07-12 13:49 Ascendance: :d
2016-07-12 13:51 Raiden: come on say suggestions so I can reject them
2016-07-12 13:51 Ascendance: LOL im looking for more
2016-07-12 13:51 Ascendance: at least you give reasons why you reject them
2016-07-12 13:51 Ascendance: which is nice cuz then im not completely clueless
2016-07-12 13:51 Raiden: ok iwon't now
2016-07-12 13:51 Ascendance: fuk
2016-07-12 13:51 Raiden: "no because my style"
2016-07-12 13:52 Ascendance: 01:16:782 (10) - might wanna add a finisher here for consistency with the previous segment
2016-07-12 13:52 Raiden: eeeeeeeeeeeeh....
2016-07-12 13:52 Raiden: do you see any REASONABLE sound to put a finisher to
2016-07-12 13:52 Raiden: XD
2016-07-12 13:52 Raiden: hearT*
2016-07-12 13:52 Raiden: hear* fgoddamn
2016-07-12 13:52 Ascendance: fgoddamn
2016-07-12 13:53 Raiden: where is the bubble
2016-07-12 13:53 Ascendance: i assumed you did it previously to the strumming noise
2016-07-12 13:53 Ascendance: but
2016-07-12 13:53 Raiden: yes i did
2016-07-12 13:53 Ascendance: if thats not the case then it's fine
2016-07-12 13:53 Ascendance: well ye that repeats itself
2016-07-12 13:53 Raiden: you wouldn't do that even in ctb
2016-07-12 13:53 Ascendance: 01:19:087 (15,18) - why not make these finishers also for the additional emphasis?
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: that's actually a cool suggestion
2016-07-12 13:54 Ascendance: WE DID IT
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: but I won't because it plays terribly
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: :p
2016-07-12 13:54 Ascendance: fuck
2016-07-12 13:54 Ascendance: really
2016-07-12 13:54 Ascendance: there's a 1/1 gap
2016-07-12 13:54 Ascendance: ?
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: it'd still break finisher consistency
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: those hits are not nearly as strong as others
2016-07-12 13:54 Raiden: in fact they could perfectly be DDK
2016-07-12 13:55 Raiden: all 3 hits share a similar intensity
2016-07-12 13:55 Ascendance: there's a much stronger noise on the 3rd hit though
2016-07-12 13:55 Raiden: they are still way similar
2016-07-12 13:56 Raiden: than for example, 01:20:897 (1) - is different from 01:21:156 (2) -
2016-07-12 13:56 Ascendance: 01:43:679 - i assume its the same here also then
2016-07-12 13:56 Raiden: ye
2016-07-12 13:56 Ascendance: sad boys
2016-07-12 13:57 Raiden: ,
2016-07-12 13:57 Raiden: ozzy won't teach you
2016-07-12 13:57 Raiden: he's a bitch
2016-07-12 13:57 Ascendance: ya ozzy is losr
2016-07-12 13:57 Ascendance: 01:45:424 - triplet ?xd
2016-07-12 13:57 Raiden: for what reason
2016-07-12 13:58 Ascendance: uh
2016-07-12 13:58 Ascendance: dunno actually
2016-07-12 13:58 Ascendance: but it sounds p cool so
2016-07-12 13:59 Ascendance: if you did a triplet and then a finisher on 01:45:748 (1) -
2016-07-12 13:59 Ascendance: it would be cool beans
2016-07-12 14:00 Raiden: m
2016-07-12 14:00 Raiden: hmmm
2016-07-12 14:00 Raiden: i'll pass
2016-07-12 14:00 Raiden: :
2016-07-12 14:00 Raiden: :D
2016-07-12 14:00 Ascendance: D:
2016-07-12 14:00 Ascendance: rip that was my best one yet
2016-07-12 14:01 Raiden: 01:45:748 - the part starting here was fixed
2016-07-12 14:01 Ascendance: 01:46:459 - triplet
2016-07-12 14:01 Raiden: i know what you mean
2016-07-12 14:01 Raiden: but won't do dkk
2016-07-12 14:01 Raiden: will map only the oriental drum
2016-07-12 14:02 Ascendance: what about ddk
2016-07-12 14:02 Ascendance: same thing for here 01:47:105 -
2016-07-12 14:02 Raiden: nah
2016-07-12 14:03 Raiden: kk k d _ k k k d k
2016-07-12 14:03 Raiden: is staying
2016-07-12 14:03 Ascendance: i find it weird that you have a finisher on 02:02:558 (113) - but not on other stuff like 02:03:075 (116) - , 02:03:592 (119) - etc
2016-07-12 14:04 Ascendance: i'd either add more finishers or remove the one from there for sound consistency
2016-07-12 14:04 Raiden: hear closely
2016-07-12 14:05 Raiden: hm
2016-07-12 14:05 Raiden: thinking about it in a better way
2016-07-12 14:05 Raiden: I'll remove
2016-07-12 14:05 Ascendance: alright
2016-07-12 14:05 Ascendance: cause i was gonna say, if you kept that one
2016-07-12 14:05 Ascendance: 02:06:696 (139) - this would need one too
2016-07-12 14:05 Raiden: ya
2016-07-12 14:05 Ascendance: out of curiosity since i cant play it
2016-07-12 14:06 Ascendance: would a finisher on 02:13:161 (13,16) - play like shit
2016-07-12 14:06 Raiden: yes
2016-07-12 14:06 Raiden: 1/2 mid finisher is shit
2016-07-12 14:06 Ascendance: alright what about one just on 16
2016-07-12 14:06 Raiden: it doesn't have enough intensity to warrant a finsiher
2016-07-12 14:07 Ascendance: can't you use it as like a buildup? we kinda do it with hdashes in ctb
2016-07-12 14:07 Raiden: nah
2016-07-12 14:08 Ascendance: alright
2016-07-12 14:09 Ascendance: i'd remove 02:16:330 - and add a note at 02:16:588 - instead
2016-07-12 14:09 Ascendance: a double triplet sounds really nice here and idk why
2016-07-12 14:09 Raiden: not to me
2016-07-12 14:09 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 14:09 Ascendance: g
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: well like idk
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: the note at 02:16:330 - sounds really weird to me
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: i did https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5594330
2016-07-12 14:10 Raiden: I know what you did
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: o
2016-07-12 14:10 Raiden: and I don't fancy that :d
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: ok:d
2016-07-12 14:10 Ascendance: 02:16:911 - maybe add a note cuz kiai and also feels a bit empty with the gap here
2016-07-12 14:11 Raiden: feels nice with the vocal pause too
2016-07-12 14:11 Raiden: keeping
2016-07-12 14:13 Ascendance: 03:25:058 - why not kiai here ?
2016-07-12 14:13 Raiden: not necessary
2016-07-12 14:13 Raiden: not chorus
2016-07-12 14:13 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 14:13 Ascendance: dam n
2016-07-12 14:14 Ascendance: any reason why 03:34:045 (4,5) - is in 1/4 when it sounds better in 1/2?
2016-07-12 14:15 Raiden: oh this part
2016-07-12 14:15 Raiden: I copypasted it
2016-07-12 14:15 Raiden: but anyway I fixed it
2016-07-12 14:15 Ascendance: ya it happened earlier too
2016-07-12 14:15 Ascendance: but i fixed it and forgot to mention it
2016-07-12 14:15 Ascendance: lol
2016-07-12 14:15 Raiden: xddd
2016-07-12 14:15 Ascendance: xdd
2016-07-12 14:16 Ascendance: 03:50:145 (113) - finisher thing from before
2016-07-12 14:16 Ascendance: mr. copypaster
2016-07-12 14:16 Raiden: done
2016-07-12 14:16 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 14:16 Raiden: you're being helpful!
2016-07-12 14:16 Ascendance: !!!
2016-07-12 14:16 Raiden: i hope you bubble
2016-07-12 14:16 Ascendance: lol needs +12
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: also why is the SV on the highest diff 1.96
2016-07-12 14:17 Raiden: I wouldn't let you bubble anyway
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: holy moly
2016-07-12 14:17 Raiden: are you crazy
2016-07-12 14:17 Raiden: because you accidentally hit AIMod
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: o
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: what should it be
2016-07-12 14:17 Raiden: 1.4
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: i'd bubble it anyways
2016-07-12 14:17 Ascendance: cuz im crazy
2016-07-12 14:17 Raiden: no
2016-07-12 14:18 Ascendance: 03:48:851 (103) - why not finisher here?
2016-07-12 14:18 Raiden: it has no strong sound
2016-07-12 14:18 Raiden: the strong sounds are the kats
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: hm ok
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: well all done xd
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: i failed
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: my first ever taiko mod :')
2016-07-12 14:20 Raiden: you found one inconsistency
2016-07-12 14:20 Raiden: it's something
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: ayy
2016-07-12 14:20 Ascendance: its also super hard to find stuff in experienced mappers' maps
2016-07-12 14:21 Raiden: :^)
2016-07-12 14:21 Ascendance: :^)
2016-07-12 14:21 Raiden: now post it for free kd and 1 sp
2016-07-12 14:21 Ascendance: nice
Surono
this genre song =_= ( I expected Hanatan ver. xd)

cus I saw post above and ozzyoshburn theres.. K

>Ascendance to heaven
* 00:01:265 - ~00:28:614 - these familiar parts, kappa did it..Spooky ( the overall spinner place isnt problem right? k (
* 00:44:971 - this sound like, Kappato Shippuden, Oo Ninja nonsense. ( this fine as monocolor? need 1 kat or? xd )
* 00:47:299 - waht this sound name
* 01:02:299 (18,19,20,21) - same sound? aaa, but I dunno.. I deep to listen to music. okok this fine o_o
* 01:07:989 - you want this follow as kat? 01:12:127 - same. if you like make it varies pattern / comparing on double ddkdd 1/2
* 01:26:739 - this flute interesting to follow imo with kat
* 01:27:903 (44,45) - ctrl g, 01:27:644 (42,43,44) -. 01:28:032 - pawpaw~
* 01:34:886 - kat? rip vocal intensifies
* 02:14:196 - I AM!!!! imma dem
* 02:34:886 - please kat this finisher, that sound like *jetasshh* (snare and cymbal Oooo)
* 02:59:196 - delete this? as focus to 02:59:325 (8,9) - the current sound. that small cymbal bit strong too o_o
* 02:59:972 - errr... kat this? :'D
* 04:30:230 - wanna kat? the flow good imo
* 04:37:860 - weird to leave it don(e), why not kat to follow flute and similar lyrics?
* 04:39:153 (41,42) - ctrl g ^ same, feels weird but.. idk (the snare drum pls)
* 04:59:944 - stop here pls, hhueheuh looong xd

bye.,
Topic Starter
Raiden

Surono wrote:

this genre song =_= ( I expected Hanatan ver. xd)

cus I saw post above and ozzyoshburn theres.. K

>Ascendance to heaven
* 00:01:265 - ~00:28:614 - these familiar parts, kappa did it..Spooky ( the overall spinner place isnt problem right? k (
* 00:44:971 - this sound like, Kappato Shippuden, Oo Ninja nonsense. ( this fine as monocolor? need 1 kat or? xd ) yeah it's fine as ddddd (it's not even 1/4 it's some weird snap but it sounds good as 1/4 so I retained it)
* 00:47:299 - waht this sound name
* 01:02:299 (18,19,20,21) - same sound? aaa, but I dunno.. I deep to listen to music. okok this fine o_o
* 01:07:989 - you want this follow as kat? 01:12:127 - same. if you like make it varies pattern / comparing on double ddkdd 1/2 nah, following drums
* 01:26:739 - this flute interesting to follow imo with kat ok i guess
* 01:27:903 (44,45) - ctrl g, 01:27:644 (42,43,44) -. 01:28:032 - pawpaw~ no lol I'd break rhythm consistency
* 01:34:886 - kat? rip vocal intensifies I don't ever follow vocals
* 02:14:196 - I AM!!!! imma dem
* 02:34:886 - please kat this finisher, that sound like *jetasshh* (snare and cymbal Oooo) fine
* 02:59:196 - delete this? as focus to 02:59:325 (8,9) - the current sound. that small cymbal bit strong too o_o sure i had this for downbeat consistency but i ugess i can remove xd
* 02:59:972 - errr... kat this? :'D
* 04:30:230 - wanna kat? the flow good imo not imo :( rip rhythm
* 04:37:860 - weird to leave it don(e), why not kat to follow flute and similar lyrics?
* 04:39:153 (41,42) - ctrl g ^ same, feels weird but.. idk (the snare drum pls)
* 04:59:944 - stop here pls, hhueheuh looong xd

bye.,
the not mentioned I did something

thanks for the spontaneous mod LOL
Nyan
[General]

Song name Tengaku -> 天樂
add ゆうゆ(Yuuyu, original artist) to tag


(suggestion) you can delete first 3 spinners to skip and save 30s to every play attempt
(suggestion) actually Oni and Heavenly Oni has only few differences. make more differences or delete one.

[Timing]

Delete red points with 232bpm. It's just little offset difference came from manually played drums
78829,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,0
83998,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,8
84024,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,0

04:46:782 - delete the timing point

04:47:225 - 232bpm 1/3

04:48:550 - the spinner starts here.
05:01:006 - the spinner ends here (1/6)

delete the last timing point
301767,315.789473684211,4,1,0,100,1,0

[Oni]

00:08:183 - spinner ends here. (1/4)
00:09:993 - spinner starts here (1/4)
01:19:087 (15) - add Finish
01:19:604 (18) - add Finish
01:29:713 - add a don (sync to voice and drum)
01:43:937 (10) - add Finish
01:44:455 (13) - add Finish
01:44:972 (16) - add Finish
01:45:747 (1) - add Finish
02:04:627 (122) - add Finish
02:06:696 (136) - add Finish
02:08:765 (148) - add Finish
02:12:514 (8) - 1ms unsnapped, and remove Finish
02:33:075 - add a don
02:39:024 (26,27,28,29,30) - k kkk d or k kkkkd
02:59:713 - add a don
03:06:696 (37) - add Finish
03:07:212 (40) - add Finish
03:07:729 (43) - add Finish
03:34:045 (4) - move to 03:33:851
03:34:368 (7,8) - d kkk
03:52:214 (124) - add Finish
03:54:283 (138) - add Finish
03:56:351 (150) - add Finish
04:00:101 (8) - remove Finish
04:20:661 - add a don
04:39:929 - add a don
04:40:963 - add a don
04:41:998 - add a don
04:43:032 - add a kat
04:45:489 - add a don

[Heavenly Oni]

01:19:087 (15) - add Finish
01:19:604 (18) - add Finish
01:29:713 - add a don
01:43:937 (10,13,16) - add Finish
01:45:747 (1) - add Finish
02:04:627 (127) - add Finish
02:06:696 (141) - add Finish
02:08:765 (153) - add Finish
02:11:092 (3,4) - K d d D
02:12:127 (7,8,9) - K d d d K
02:13:549 (16) - add Finish
02:59:713 - add a don
03:06:696 (37) - add Finish
03:07:212 (40) - add Finish
03:07:729 (43) - add Finish
03:50:145 (116) - add Finish
03:52:213 (128) - add Finish
03:52:860 - add a kat
03:54:283 (142) - add Finish
03:54:153 - add a don
03:56:352 (154) - add Finish
03:58:679 (3,4) - K d d D
03:59:714 (7,8,9) - K d d d K
04:01:136 (16) - add Finish
Topic Starter
Raiden

Nyan wrote:

[General]

Song name Tengaku -> 天樂
add ゆうゆ(Yuuyu, original artist) to tag


(suggestion) you can delete first 3 spinners to skip and save 30s to every play attempt can't, need 5:00 drain for approval
(suggestion) actually Oni and Heavenly Oni has only few differences. make more differences or delete one. I'll keep the Oni for lower level players

[Timing]

Delete red points with 232bpm. It's just little offset difference came from manually played drums
78829,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,0
83998,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,8
84024,258.620689655172,4,1,0,90,1,0 I guess I'll trust you for now

04:46:782 - delete the timing point necessary to omit bar line

04:47:225 - 232bpm 1/3 hmmm not really, the most accurate is 170 1/4 imo

04:48:550 - the spinner starts here. I think mine is slightly more accurate
05:01:006 - the spinner ends here (1/6) Nah I don't think it ends there

delete the last timing point
301767,315.789473684211,4,1,0,100,1,0

[Oni]

00:08:183 - spinner ends here. (1/4)
00:09:993 - spinner starts here (1/4)
01:19:087 (15) - add Finish
01:19:604 (18) - add Finish those 2 are not worthy of a finisher imo (already rejected once)
01:29:713 - add a don (sync to voice and drum) done
01:43:937 (10) - add Finish
01:44:455 (13) - add Finish
01:44:972 (16) - add Finish
01:45:747 (1) - add Finish
02:04:627 (122) - add Finish
02:06:696 (136) - add Finish
02:08:765 (148) - add Finish I had some finishers, but I removed due to consistency issues
02:12:514 (8) - 1ms unsnapped, and remove Finish
02:33:075 - add a don done both ^
02:39:024 (26,27,28,29,30) - k kkk d or k kkkkd ok
02:59:713 - add a don i think i'll pass because of how the SV increases
03:06:696 (37) - add Finish
03:07:212 (40) - add Finish
03:07:729 (43) - add Finish
03:34:045 (4) - move to 03:33:851 I think it represents better the bass drum and the oriental instrument as kdkkd
03:34:368 (7,8) - d kkk first note is for bass drum, then two dons for the contrast with the snare drum in 10
03:52:214 (124) - add Finish
03:54:283 (138) - add Finish
03:56:351 (150) - add Finish
04:00:101 (8) - remove Finish yes
04:20:661 - add a don
04:39:929 - add a don
04:40:963 - add a don
04:41:998 - add a don
04:43:032 - add a kat
04:45:489 - add a don done this one, but not the others. I think it's better to keep the gaps on the 1/3 because of how weird the pattern is

[Heavenly Oni]

01:19:087 (15) - add Finish
01:19:604 (18) - add Finish
01:29:713 - add a don
01:43:937 (10,13,16) - add Finish
01:45:747 (1) - add Finish
02:04:627 (127) - add Finish
02:06:696 (141) - add Finish
02:08:765 (153) - add Finish
02:11:092 (3,4) - K d d D I prefer to keep only the emphasized finishers
02:12:127 (7,8,9) - K d d d K same
02:13:549 (16) - add Finish
02:59:713 - add a don
03:06:696 (37) - add Finish
03:07:212 (40) - add Finish
03:07:729 (43) - add Finish
03:50:145 (116) - add Finish
03:52:213 (128) - add Finish
03:52:860 - add a kat done
03:54:283 (142) - add Finish
03:54:153 - add a don
03:56:352 (154) - add Finish
03:58:679 (3,4) - K d d D
03:59:714 (7,8,9) - K d d d K
04:01:136 (16) - add Finish about finishers, same as Oni
thanks a lot for the timing check and everything :3
Yuzeyun


[map]
delete everything


joke: my mapping career as a whole
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

  • [General]
  1. Add "鈴華ゆう子" and "Suzuhana Yuuko" (the band's vocal) to tags ?
  2. Base SV in Oni should be changed to 1.4 via notepad.
  • [Heavenly Oni]
  1. 00:09:993 (1) - consider ending this spinner at 00:16:135 - ? The flute stops around there.
  2. 00:37:213 (9,10,11) - maybe try kdk to accompany the shamisen ? This would sound cooler to play imo.
  3. 00:50:273 (17) - you may change this note to d to make the pitch increase at 00:50:402 - clearer.
  4. 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) - swapping these notes to KK DK could follow the higher-pitched sound at 01:03:075 - nicely.
  5. 01:45:747 (1) and 01:54:023 (60) - maybe add finish at these spots for the noticeable cymbal sound ?
  6. 01:46:459 (4) - move to 01:46:394 - and change to d ? The music is pretty silent at that point and the doublet sounds a bit random as you did not do the same thing at 01:54:734 -
  7. 02:06:696 (143) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  8. 02:16:653 (18,19) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the high-pitched vocal well.
  9. 02:50:662 (22,23,24,25,26) - similar to 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) - , maybe try K K dkk here ?
  10. 03:21:825 (59,60) - same suggestion as 02:16:653 (18,19) - , but for the flute this time.
  11. 03:50:145 (119) and 03:54:283 (146) - same as 02:06:696 (143) -
  12. 04:04:239 (18,19) - same as 02:16:653 (18,19) -
  13. 04:25:834 (78,79,80,81) - same as 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) -
  14. 04:29:067 (14,15) - same as 02:16:653 (18,19) -
  15. 04:31:136 (14,15,16,17) - similar to ^ , d kkd would reflect the vocal in a way better.
The above suggestions are applicable to Oni as long as the difficulty is a simplified version of Heavenly Oni. You may call me back when you have enough SP~ :D
Topic Starter
Raiden

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

  • [General]
  1. Add "鈴華ゆう子" and "Suzuhana Yuuko" (the band's vocal) to tags ?
  2. Base SV in Oni should be changed to 1.4 via notepad.
  • [Heavenly Oni]
  1. 00:09:993 (1) - consider ending this spinner at 00:16:135 - ? The flute stops around there.
  2. 00:37:213 (9,10,11) - maybe try kdk to accompany the shamisen ? This would sound cooler to play imo.
  3. 00:50:273 (17) - you may change this note to d to make the pitch increase at 00:50:402 - clearer. I'm not a big fan of dkk but did kdk for propher kkk usage on the next pattern
  4. 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) - swapping these notes to KK DK could follow the higher-pitched sound at 01:03:075 - nicely. tried both for 50 times but I didn't like how it transitioned... I kinda prefer the KD -> DK -> KK transition, even if the middle pattern has slightly higher pitch.
  5. 01:45:747 (1) and 01:54:023 (60) - maybe add finish at these spots for the noticeable cymbal sound ?
  6. 01:46:459 (4) - move to 01:46:394 - and change to d ? The music is pretty silent at that point and the doublet sounds a bit random as you did not do the same thing at 01:54:734 - if you listen closely there is indeed a hit by that weird instrument that resembles a drum
  7. 02:06:696 (143) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? hmmm not exactly, otherwise I would need to also use finisher on notes like 02:02:558 (117) - or 02:08:765 (155) -, I do think they are not strong enough to warrant a finisher
  8. 02:16:653 (18,19) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the high-pitched vocal well. I don't usually tend to fit vocals but rather focus on beat/percussion mapping
  9. 02:50:662 (22,23,24,25,26) - similar to 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) - , maybe try K K dkk here ? as mentioned above, I am no fan of dkk and how it flows with the gameplay
  10. 03:21:825 (59,60) - same suggestion as 02:16:653 (18,19) - , but for the flute this time. tested it and liked it as a standalone pattern, but biasing the notes to the flute disrupts the beat structure I've followed until then (the typical kd dk ddkd dk of the battery) and makes the next patterns sound somewhat weird
  11. 03:50:145 (119) and 03:54:283 (146) - same as 02:06:696 (143) - same answer
  12. 04:04:239 (18,19) - same as 02:16:653 (18,19) - same answer
  13. 04:25:834 (78,79,80,81) - same as 01:03:075 (22,23,24,25) - :o
  14. 04:29:067 (14,15) - same as 02:16:653 (18,19) - XD
  15. 04:31:136 (14,15,16,17) - similar to ^ , d kkd would reflect the vocal in a way better. making the start of a measure a kat would kill the don consistency I had followed until now ;_;
The above suggestions are applicable to Oni as long as the difficulty is a simplified version of Heavenly Oni. You may call me back when you have enough SP~ :D
will try to get more mods on this

not responded = fixed without comment
SKSalt
Omg Raiden's version is here
bananannian
this is my first mod in 3 months
How about using slightly lower SV in the beginning and upping it to x1.0 at 00:47:816? Could be a neat effect.

00:33:592 and 00:41:351 - break these two strings of 1/2s up? It's the beginning of the song, good to have a bit lower density; also the drumming in the music has a very interesting syncopated rhythm that's lost with just a continuous 1/2 pattern. I'd suggest removing 00:34:756 (25) and 00:43:032 (51) since the hihat's almost inaudible anyways

01:02:299 - sounds a bit weird as of right now like nardo mentioned... maybe DD DK KD KK?

01:09:022 (25) - oh hey you could delete this and instead put a d at 01:11:092 so it'll be consistent with 01:04:885 and 01:06:954

01:14:066 - add d for vocals except you're probably gonna reject this anyways because you don't follow vocals fuck

01:22:471 (9,10,11,12) - you could do something different for the middle one because the same pattern repeated for 3 times might be a bit boring imo

01:32:428 (5) - k? rip vocals

01:45:360 (18) - k to follow 01:44:842 (15); also 03:06:437 follows a similar pattern and 03:08:118 (45) is a k, so it would be consistent to match that

01:52:989 - yeah how about this?


02:04:627 (129) - K to match 02:02:558 (117)
02:06:696 (143) - ^
02:08:765 (155) - ^

02:11:739 (5) - ???? no sound in music? I don't think an auxiliary note is required either, the rhythm's perfectly fine as is

02:20:920 - DDDDKKKKDDKKDDKK so the pattern grows in intensity

02:50:274 - like 01:02:299, DK KD would be my suggestion

02:55:833 - you could add something here, like make it d k d perhaps

03:09:670 (1) and 03:11:739 (12) - like 02:11:739 (5)

03:22:924 - add a k here for the flute, might want to delete 03:23:053 (73) too if you decide to add the note

03:30:748 (68) - k to give some oomph to the guitar (also to match k structure for 03:29:455 (55,57,60) but that's just me nitpicking)

03:35:791 (17) - k for the high pitched drum

03:50:145 (119) - wait, no finishers this time? see 02:04:627

03:59:326 (5) - eh
04:08:506 - ehh
04:33:333 - ehhh

04:29:584 (19) - k for vocals ._.

I hope I didn't forget how to mod
Topic Starter
Raiden

bananannian wrote:

this is my first mod in 3 months
How about using slightly lower SV in the beginning and upping it to x1.0 at 00:47:816? Could be a neat effect. the idea is good but it would make stuff very frustratingly unnecessarily hard to read

00:33:592 and 00:41:351 - break these two strings of 1/2s up? It's the beginning of the song, good to have a bit lower density; also the drumming in the music has a very interesting syncopated rhythm that's lost with just a continuous 1/2 pattern. I'd suggest removing 00:34:756 (25) and 00:43:032 (51) since the hihat's almost inaudible anyways instrumentally speaking it would make no sense to break those strings, as there is always at least one instrument playing be it in the foreground or the background, the higher density is intentional

01:02:299 - sounds a bit weird as of right now like nardo mentioned... maybe DD DK KD KK? same answer i gave to nardo

01:09:022 (25) - oh hey you could delete this and instead put a d at 01:11:092 so it'll be consistent with 01:04:885 and 01:06:954 god forgive me for doing this but while the one you mentioned (before) to be consistent is a continuous vocal the don there kinda represents a strong vocal syllabe

01:14:066 - add d for vocals except you're probably gonna reject this anyways because you don't follow vocals fuck actually got this one to not be an incredible ass following last response

01:22:471 (9,10,11,12) - you could do something different for the middle one because the same pattern repeated for 3 times might be a bit boring imo ddkd is not repeated only 3 times lol, it's the one that makes most sense musically

01:32:428 (5) - k? rip vocals rip

01:45:360 (18) - k to follow 01:44:842 (15); also 03:06:437 follows a similar pattern and 03:08:118 (45) is a k, so it would be consistent to match that actually ctrl+g'd because of snare

01:52:989 - yeah how about this?
did similarly

02:04:627 (129) - K to match 02:02:558 (117)
02:06:696 (143) - ^
02:08:765 (155) - ^ as said in both previous mods, they are not strong enough to warrant a finisher, the first one is just an indicator of the start of this big part

02:11:739 (5) - ???? no sound in music? I don't think an auxiliary note is required either, the rhythm's perfectly fine as is well i think the "auxiliary" note complements the music very smoothly

02:20:920 - DDDDKKKKDDKKDDKK so the pattern grows in intensity nah it's intense as it is now

02:50:274 - like 01:02:299, DK KD would be my suggestion same answer

02:55:833 - you could add something here, like make it d k d perhaps the whole idea of this os to be as less dense as posible so 4/1 dons do that job just fine

03:09:670 (1) and 03:11:739 (12) - like 02:11:739 (5) same answer

03:22:924 - add a k here for the flute, might want to delete 03:23:053 (73) too if you decide to add the note not really fan of how it turns out

03:30:748 (68) - k to give some oomph to the guitar (also to match k structure for 03:29:455 (55,57,60) but that's just me nitpicking) and as nitpicking it stays :DD

03:35:791 (17) - k for the high pitched drum

03:50:145 (119) - wait, no finishers this time? see 02:04:627 woops

03:59:326 (5) - eh
04:08:506 - ehh
04:33:333 - ehhh ahhhhhh

04:29:584 (19) - k for vocals ._. fuck vocals

I hope I didn't forget how to mod
thanks for the spontaneous mod lol
Prophecy
Bubble #1 pls
Nardoxyribonucleic
A quick recheck here. (no kd)

  • [Oni]

    Make sure that you have applied the things you agreed in Heavenly Oni from my previous post for this difficulty.
  • [Heavenly Oni]
  1. 01:46:459 (4) - I replayed this part like 20 times and I still think that this note sounds rather out of place. The music here is actually similar to 01:49:885 - , but you used two entirely different way of mapping. I would recommend you to use the same constellation like you did at 01:54:670 - for pattern consistency as mentioned in my previous post.
  2. 02:02:558 (117) - then you need to remove finish for this note according to your reply that you do not want to use a big note for such a sound.
  3. 03:50:145 (119) - same as ^
Topic Starter
Raiden

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

  • [Oni]

    Make sure that you have applied the things you agreed in Heavenly Oni from my previous post for this difficulty.
  • [Heavenly Oni]
  1. 01:46:459 (4) - I replayed this part like 20 times and I still think that this note sounds rather out of place. The music here is actually similar to 01:49:885 - , but you used two entirely different way of mapping. I would recommend you to use the same constellation like you did at 01:54:670 - for pattern consistency as mentioned in my previous post. Listen closely to it, the light percussion instrument actually does a 1/4 doublet. Regardless, I guess I can change the pattern constellation overall for better consistency, but that 1/4 doublet is staying.
  2. 02:02:558 (117) - then you need to remove finish for this note according to your reply that you do not want to use a big note for such a sound.
  3. 03:50:145 (119) - same as ^ both fixed
I'm still reluctant to change the way that constellation plays because on the first, denser part it follows an extra instrument which doesn't play in the second (not as repeatedly, at least), less denser part, which is also remarked by a much simpler rhythm.
bananannian
just add a d at 01:46:264 tbh
Topic Starter
Raiden
what no
Nardoxyribonucleic
Alright, both of the difficulties look fine now with consistent patterns.

Bubble #1~
Nwolf
There is an irc log somewhere in my osu! folder but I need to catch my train


#2

EDIT: Log

Log
10:17 Nwolf: let's move it here then
10:19 Nwolf: y u discord
10:19 Raiden: a
10:19 Raiden: the part with the light durm you mean
10:19 Raiden: before the kiai
10:19 Raiden: didnt notice
10:19 Nwolf: also I'm mad notes like 02:02:558 (118) - aren't finishers
10:19 Nwolf: >:(
10:19 Raiden: ok take first 3 measures
10:19 Raiden: starting from 01:45:747 -
10:20 Raiden: first 4*
10:20 Raiden: they have in some way or another that extra instrument
10:20 Nwolf: bongos?
10:20 Nwolf: 01:55:058 - just like here?
10:20 Raiden: they dont sound like bongos
10:20 Raiden: but lets call them
10:20 Raiden: bongos
10:20 Raiden: yes!
10:21 Nwolf: bongos or bongo-like things ok
10:22 Raiden: and those notes arent going go be finishers
10:22 Raiden: there are enough already
10:22 Raiden: XD
10:22 Nwolf: oh pf with those 1/2 finishers you can make more
10:22 Raiden: noOOo
10:22 Raiden: wont make them finishers
10:22 Nwolf: ye u r lem
10:23 Raiden: no
10:23 Raiden: noNONOO
10:23 Raiden: ddkddkddkddk
10:23 Nwolf: wat
10:23 Raiden: idk
10:23 Nwolf: do you have a coconucussion
10:23 Raiden: trying to distract you
10:23 Raiden: nuclear fusion
10:24 Nwolf: 01:54:993 - at least add 1/4 here
10:24 Raiden: 01:55:769 - added here
10:24 Raiden: more bongos
10:25 Nwolf: k
10:25 Nwolf: 01:46:458 - there's bongos here too
10:25 Raiden: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqDDNIyXEAAEQAv.jpg
10:25 Raiden: have this dog
10:25 Nwolf: nothing important
10:25 Nwolf: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
10:25 *Nwolf hits qualify
10:25 Nwolf: oops...
10:25 Raiden: ok added even more bongos
10:25 Nwolf: should be BG
10:25 Raiden: *gets voted 1 because overmap"
10:25 Raiden: *
10:26 Nwolf: it was overmapped before
10:26 Nwolf: bitch
10:26 Nwolf: 01:55:187 - here are bongos too
10:26 *Nwolf runs
10:26 Nwolf: nwolf making all maps bad
10:26 Raiden: no stop
10:26 Raiden: :(
10:26 Nwolf: 01:57:579 - should be consistent with 01:49:303 - because here the bongos are actually the same
10:26 Nwolf: and yes that's overmap fuck you
10:26 Nwolf: :3
10:27 Nwolf: gdi I want that dog
10:27 Raiden: ok
10:27 Raiden: overmapped
10:27 Nwolf: what was the other part
10:28 Raiden: que
10:28 Nwolf: oh ye the 5-plets
10:28 Nwolf: yeah i get it a little bit more now
10:28 Nwolf: 02:39:347 (30) - 02:39:088 - could be here to follow le flute better, maybe make 02:39:152 (27,28) - dons
10:29 Nwolf: sounds nicer
10:29 Raiden: r
10:29 Nwolf: l r l r
10:29 Raiden: ok
10:29 Raiden: done
10:30 Nwolf: 02:41:287 (14) - maybe 02:41:027 - here
10:30 Nwolf: same rison
10:30 Raiden: there is no flute there
10:30 Raiden: :(
10:30 Nwolf: 02:40:963 - here there is
10:30 Nwolf: then why is it a 5-plet
10:30 Nwolf: >:(
10:30 Raiden: because i felt need of more note
10:30 Raiden: s
10:31 Nwolf: and why is there no other 5-plet >:( :>(
10:31 Raiden: be glad it's not 1/8!
10:31 Nwolf: if it was 1/8
10:31 Nwolf: nobody would bubble this
10:31 Nwolf: :v
10:31 Raiden: ozzy
10:31 Nwolf: .
10:31 Nwolf: not even him
10:32 Nwolf: 02:52:989 (2) - what is this following
10:32 Raiden: ok
10:32 Raiden: made it a ddd
10:32 Raiden: fuck you
10:32 Nwolf: wow rood no bubble for u
10:32 Raiden: nothing
10:32 Raiden: just 4/1 notes
10:32 Raiden: for the pause
10:32 Raiden: like if it was a break
10:32 Nwolf: could follow the bass
10:32 Raiden: there were originally no notes there
10:32 Raiden: nah
10:32 Nwolf: would be nicer
10:32 Nwolf: c:
10:32 Raiden: not for me :(
10:33 Raiden: i want it to feel like no notes
10:33 Raiden: at all
10:33 Nwolf: also don't forget to change everything in Oni too
10:33 Raiden: yes
10:33 Raiden: i was changing everything
10:33 Raiden: except the overmap part
10:33 Nwolf: st00pid copypaste diff
10:33 Raiden: i only overmapped heavenly
10:33 Nwolf: no you overmapped Oni too
10:34 Nwolf: 01:57:579 - should have consistent note here as well
10:34 Nwolf: for example
10:34 Raiden: not at the same extent
10:34 Nwolf: 01:49:303 - blah
10:34 Raiden: are you in oni or heavenly
10:34 Nwolf: I noticed
10:34 Nwolf: ye sorry
10:34 Nwolf: I was wondering why it was the same
10:34 Nwolf: while I'm here in Oni though, 01:48:980 (20) - don???
10:34 Raiden: ???
10:35 Nwolf: I was in heaven
10:35 Raiden: hm
10:35 Nwolf: 03:33:333 - did you apply in this part too
10:35 Raiden: kkkkddk seems easier to play to me
10:35 Nwolf: nah it's mashing one button for times
10:36 Nwolf: unless you are weird and alt...
10:36 Raiden: yes
10:36 Raiden: applied
10:36 Nwolf: 05:00:978 - FUCK
10:37 Nwolf: ok get your circlejerked bubble
10:37 Raiden: sua
10:37 Raiden: SUA
10:37 Nwolf: NO IT'S FUCK
10:37 Raiden: rip bubble
10:37 Nwolf: 03:36:566 - HA
10:37 Nwolf: IT'S A DON HERE TOO
10:37 Nwolf: in oni
10:37 Raiden: changed
10:37 Raiden: to kat
10:37 Nwolf: are you pie
10:37 Nwolf: :v
10:38 Raiden: yes
10:38 Raiden: soil the stillborn
10:38 Nwolf: I will eat you alive if you really changed it to kat rofl
10:38 Raiden: i changed
10:38 Raiden: to kat
10:38 Raiden: eat me
10:38 Nwolf: it's a don
10:38 Raiden: update
10:38 Nwolf: 01:48:980 - omg not here
10:38 Nwolf: you monster
10:38 Nwolf: I hate you
10:38 Raiden: :)
10:38 *Nwolf denies bubble
10:38 Nwolf: c:
10:38 Raiden: rip
10:38 Nwolf: ok gotta go for train cya
10:39 Nwolf: :^)
10:39 Raiden: bb
10:39 Nwolf: change it to dooooooooooon
10:39 Raiden: r
10:39 Nwolf: gdi
10:39 Nwolf: 03:33:333 - apply changes in this part
10:39 Nwolf: too
10:39 Nwolf: :(
10:39 Nwolf: in heavenly
10:40 Raiden: what changes
10:40 Nwolf: 01:55:769 - 01:57:579 -
10:40 Nwolf: 03:43:355 - 03:45:165 -
10:40 Raiden: the parts are different
10:40 Raiden: bongos dont play the same
10:40 Nwolf: true
10:40 Nwolf: 03:45:424 - here is 1/4
10:41 Nwolf: in bongos
10:41 Raiden: ok
10:41 Nwolf: how is not weird for you that you go down in density aaaaaaaaaaaah
10:41 Raiden: made it denser
10:41 Nwolf: k update
kouzuki_karen
wtf is this absolutely haram

Topic Starter
Raiden
halal
Nwolf
back to #1 then


pls don't add 1/4 finishers again thx
Nardoxyribonucleic
Unintentional dragging of notes while selecting may cause displacement sometimes, so it would be better not to check mods in a hurry and make sure that everything is in place by thorough inspection. Rechecked and the issue seems to be solved.

Bubble #2~
OzzyOzrock
[Heaven]
03:37:990 (30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - why so dense compared to rest? I understand that most of the weird density changes are because of the shitty fucking bongo player, but here there doesn't seem to be much to back it up.


ty for kds
Topic Starter
Raiden
reduced a bit the density fucking shitty bongo player cannot play consistently fuck him
OzzyOzrock
BONGO'D!
Surono
bongo bongo

tuc tuc tuc tun
GRR SNARL GROWL
B O N G O B O Y S
tasuke912
Gratz!
Topic Starter
Raiden
Thanks everyone :D
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