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Dilectus

Douky wrote:

Hello ! Little Mod for the insane diff:

00:17:889 (2,3,4) - The two 1/2 after the sliders feel weird , you maybe want to make them the same way you did thoses ? 00:24:318 (5,1,2) - I feel Like it fits better with the voice i feel like the vocals are the most important to emphasize in this part. and the rhythm catches it perfectly imo

00:28:247 (5,6) - Maybe make theses two Parralel ? yeah, it looks good and doesnt affect flow

00:34:497 (1) - The slider on the white tick doesn't feel good here in my opinion , and I think It's the only one in the map just like i emphasized the vocals on 00:30:389 (1,1) - i wanted to keep it consistent

00:50:389 (1) - I find this slider a bit slow for the transition, but it's a matter of choice here , see if it bother you or not :D i mean. it's a good way to transition into a much more intense part of the song

00:52:532 (5,6) - Parrallel too ? Like thoses one ? 01:07:532 (1,2) - fix, didnt affect flow too
Thank you for the mod!
Lully
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ez
00:04:675 (1) - this really looks weird.. idk how. maybe blanket it with 00:03:247 (2) - ? would look much better. ><
00:03:247 (2) - this both could have like lightning like shape so it fits even more to the song! [url=00:01:818 (1) -]example[/url]
00:36:639 (3) - 84 252?
01:09:675 (3) - nc? ovo
01:16:818 (1) - blanket w 01:15:389 (3) - pls~

hd
00:12:889 (4) - why this sudden change? a slider like 00:12:532 (3) - and stuff would be nice here too. ovo
00:24:675 (1) - fix symmetry
01:01:104 (4,5) - please same distance as 01:00:747 (2,3) - have

Topic Starter
Dilectus

CookieKivi wrote:

ez
00:04:675 (1) - this really looks weird.. idk how. maybe blanket it with 00:03:247 (2) - ? would look much better. >< it looks fine
00:03:247 (2) - this both could have like lightning like shape so it fits even more to the song! [url=00:01:818 (1) -]example[/url] the current structure is easier and comfortable for beginners to follow
00:36:639 (3) - 84 252?
01:09:675 (3) - nc? ovo fix
01:16:818 (1) - blanket w 01:15:389 (3) - pls~ the purpose wasn't to blanket with previous slider, only to make the flow go right.
hd
00:12:889 (4) - why this sudden change? a slider like 00:12:532 (3) - and stuff would be nice here too. ovo fix
00:24:675 (1) - fix symmetry if it played nice id have symmetry with the last slider
01:01:104 (4,5) - please same distance as 01:00:747 (2,3) - have fix
Thanks for the mod
Net0
Just a small suggestion for two jump pattern in Insane

Ctrol+G 00:58:068 (3,5) - and rework on the position of the 00:58:425 (5) - .
Now this is how it looks
00:57:354 (1,4,5) -

My suggestion is this:

Another jump section that could be improved is this one
00:48:782 (4,1,2,3) -

This is how it looks:



My suggestion is this:

The flow itself work both on your pattern and also in my suggestions, this suggestions are just to make the jumps easier if you'd like so. Also, as you can see there's also a visual impact that could help your map.

Good luck with your map and thanks for showing this song, never heard it but really like it. Also if you want another picture as a BG I suggest this one, since the one you're using it's already been used by a lot of Toaru maps: http://puu.sh/qKQte.jpg . o/
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Net0 wrote:

Just a small suggestion for two jump pattern in Insane

Ctrol+G 00:58:068 (3,5) - and rework on the position of the 00:58:425 (5) - .
Now this is how it looks
00:57:354 (1,4,5) -

My suggestion is this:

Another jump section that could be improved is this one
00:48:782 (4,1,2,3) -

This is how it looks:



My suggestion is this:

The flow itself work both on your pattern and also in my suggestions, this suggestions are just to make the jumps easier if you'd like so. Also, as you can see there's also a visual impact that could help your map.

Good luck with your map and thanks for showing this song, never heard it but really like it. Also if you want another picture as a BG I suggest this one, since the one you're using it's already been used by a lot of Toaru maps: http://puu.sh/qKQte.jpg . o/
Fixed both sections, it really made the map look better and play better. Just like how I want it.

Also changed the last pattern to play and look better.
Imakuri
HiHi !
#MakeModreqsGreatAgain

So here I start the mod, I modded all difficulties.

General
  1. Nothing to say here, video is good, and timing too, great job. Just a little thing, combo colors, just lol. Why didn't you used colors of background ? It's better !
Easy
  1. 00:01:818 : Try to accentuate the shape of this slider. Or change it. I mean, it's strange to play, and the shape is strange too. So you could try to accentuate a bit the shape, it could be better, like this > http://puu.sh/qMvXu/d4ea032a31.jpg
    Compared
    http://puu.sh/qMvZn/4221f010c8.jpg
  2. 00:03:247 : Here too. But i'll not re-explain why ^^^^^^
  3. 00:25:389 : Well, the same. For me the shape of the slider isn't perfect, and you could do the shape better imo, up to you.
  4. 00:34:497 : Try to do this slider a bit like that > http://puu.sh/qMw9E/65e5622b90.jpg
  5. 00:46:104 : Here is exactly the same that I said before, try to change it If you want, up to you, It will be just more aesthetic.
  6. 00:53:247 : Nothing here, it's just strange because I just find that the shape of THIS slider (and not the others) is great. Strange.
  7. 01:03:247 : I think you should reverse the slider to the right or a better flow with the next slider. I played it in Flashlight, and it's kind of strange. > http://puu.sh/qMwlY/94e95f2d65.jpg
  8. 01:07:532 : YES ! YES ! GOOD SLIDER SHAPE ! YES ! sorry, nothing here, just a perfect shape xD
  9. Well rest is pretty good. I really loved this diff, it fits perfectly with the song. Great Job. It's consistent, perfect.
Normal
  1. 00:13:247 : Well, why did you not put a NC here ? You just did at : 00:10:389 so please put NC here !
  2. 00:32:354 : I really don't recommand to stack them, because here's the same combo, and you must respect distance snap in Normal and Easy, so unstack it please~ (up to you, but I don't recommand it)
  3. 00:36:461 : Here's the same ^
  4. 00:39:497 (2) : This blanket isn't perfect with 00:40:389 (1) you should fix it a bit.
  5. 00:42:354 : Same stack story blablabla
  6. 01:09:675 : Here is the same problem of shape than the Easy diff, this slider is not beautiful imo, try to fix the shape.
  7. 01:18:247 : Are you sure about this triangle ? It's really confused. I missed the not here when I played it, maybe that the triangle isn't a good idea, or switch (2) and (3) with each other.
  8. Well rest is good, good diff !
Hard
  1. 00:27:532 : Why didn't you stacked the click circle of the slider, with the reverse of the previous slider, it's better imo, and it makes a better flow >
    http://puu.sh/qMwYk/5ecb2944f5.jpg (After try to fix DS ofc)
  2. 01:24:675 : I think you could put it at x256 y192 it's better.
  3. Rest is pretty pretty good !
Insane
  1. Looks perfectly fine here !
Well that's it, great map, great song, great mapper, great shit !
I wish you the best of luck for ranking !
Imakuri~
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Imakuri wrote:

HiHi !
#MakeModreqsGreatAgain

So here I start the mod, I modded all difficulties.

General
  1. Nothing to say here, video is good, and timing too, great job. Just a little thing, combo colors, just lol. Why didn't you used colors of background ? It's better ! I was gonna fix some combo colors, didnt know which ones to use so i took the ones from Dear my Friend. ty
Easy
  1. 00:01:818 : Try to accentuate the shape of this slider. Or change it. I mean, it's strange to play, and the shape is strange too. So you could try to accentuate a bit the shape, it could be better, like this > http://puu.sh/qMvXu/d4ea032a31.jpg just changed shape
    Compared
    http://puu.sh/qMvZn/4221f010c8.jpg
  2. 00:03:247 : Here too. But i'll not re-explain why ^^^^^^ ^
  3. 00:25:389 : Well, the same. For me the shape of the slider isn't perfect, and you could do the shape better imo, up to you. fixed it up
  4. 00:34:497 : Try to do this slider a bit like that > http://puu.sh/qMw9E/65e5622b90.jpg sure
  5. 00:46:104 : Here is exactly the same that I said before, try to change it If you want, up to you, It will be just more aesthetic. fix
  6. 00:53:247 : Nothing here, it's just strange because I just find that the shape of THIS slider (and not the others) is great. Strange. mean
  7. 01:03:247 : I think you should reverse the slider to the right or a better flow with the next slider. I played it in Flashlight, and it's kind of strange. > http://puu.sh/qMwlY/94e95f2d65.jpg fix
  8. 01:07:532 : YES ! YES ! GOOD SLIDER SHAPE ! YES ! sorry, nothing here, just a perfect shape xD
  9. Well rest is pretty good. I really loved this diff, it fits perfectly with the song. Great Job. It's consistent, perfect.
Normal
  1. 00:13:247 : Well, why did you not put a NC here ? You just did at : 00:10:389 so please put NC here ! just forgot
  2. 00:32:354 : I really don't recommand to stack them, because here's the same combo, and you must respect distance snap in Normal and Easy, so unstack it please~ (up to you, but I don't recommand it) if its the same melody and it doesnt change, i like to stack cause it plays better and it follows the song ofc
  3. 00:36:461 : Here's the same ^ same reason
  4. 00:39:497 (2) : This blanket isn't perfect with 00:40:389 (1) you should fix it a bit.fix
  5. 00:42:354 : Same stack story blablablasame story
  6. 01:09:675 : Here is the same problem of shape than the Easy diff, this slider is not beautiful imo, try to fix the shape. fixed it up?
  7. 01:18:247 : Are you sure about this triangle ? It's really confused. I missed the not here when I played it, maybe that the triangle isn't a good idea, or switch (2) and (3) with each other. remapped this area
  8. Well rest is good, good diff !
Hard
  1. 00:27:532 : Why didn't you stacked the click circle of the slider, with the reverse of the previous slider, it's better imo, and it makes a better flow >
    http://puu.sh/qMwYk/5ecb2944f5.jpg (After try to fix DS ofc) cause if its unstacked, it leaves a bigger impact on the major beat
  2. 01:24:675 : I think you could put it at x256 y192 it's better. fixed
  3. Rest is pretty pretty good !
Insane
  1. Looks perfectly fine here !
Well that's it, great map, great song, great mapper, great shit !
I wish you the best of luck for ranking !
Imakuri~
Appreaciate the mod, Imakuri-chan
alacat
Recheck

  1. Title : Real Force (TV size)

  2. Video offset : Please unify video offset all diffs

  3. Insane :
    00:25:836 (5,7) - I think it seems overmapped. Please remove these.

  4. Hard :
    remove widescreen support

  5. Normal :
    remove widescreen support
    00:04:675 (1,1) - You should consider removing notes after spinners for take recovery times. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3359424
    like this : http://puu.sh/qR9DK/bfb8d3e004.png

  6. Easy :
    remove widescreen support
    00:27:532 (3) - add a new combo from here?
Topic Starter
Dilectus

alacat wrote:

Recheck

  1. Title : Real Force (TV size) fix

  2. Video offset : Please unify video offset all diffs fix

  3. Insane :
    00:25:836 (5,7) - I think it seems overmapped. Please remove these. there are notes here (the quiet drum beat), but i guess theyre too low volume to emphasize so i removed it

  4. Hard :
    remove widescreen support fix

  5. Normal :
    remove widescreen support fix
    00:04:675 (1,1) - You should consider removing notes after spinners for take recovery times. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3359424
    like this : http://puu.sh/qR9DK/bfb8d3e004.png was not aware of it, i fixed it up

  6. Easy :
    remove widescreen support fix
    00:27:532 (3) - add a new combo from here? fix, it is a new section after all
I guess I fixed everything.

Thanks :)
alacat
ahh soft-slidertick4 has 20ms delay. Please use this http://puu.sh/qRpS9/e496ee77bb.zip (remove delay
Topic Starter
Dilectus

alacat wrote:

ahh soft-slidertick4 has 20ms delay. Please use this http://puu.sh/qRpS9/e496ee77bb.zip (remove delay
On closer inspection I found that I actually never used S:S4 in any of my difficulties, so I just deleted it as I have no use of it. :o
alacat
Alright, Good luck!
Monstrata
Are you doing more ELISA songs? Or more Railgun songs?
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Monstrata wrote:

Are you doing more ELISA songs? Or more Railgun songs?
I found out about ELISA through Railgun so I knew I had to map these songs after watching it because they stood out from the rest. Don't know how many times that I have listened to these songs on repeat now. :)

As I'm writing this, I haven't concidered starting up another project. But that will most likely change because I get motivated to do something so easily. Not sure what the song will be. Either it will be the full version of Secrets of the Goddess or another Railgun/Index song (See VisionS, PSI-Missing, Fixed Star, Future Gazer or No Buts)
Electoz
[Easy]

  1. AR3? AR4 is mostly used with Normal or Easy with very high bpm songs, which is not in this case.
  2. 00:10:389 (1) - The rhythm is playing consistently so a 2/1 slider here would be better to keep consistency with other sliders in this section, or if you want to make some variety stuff then I suggest make 00:11:818 (2) a 1/1 repeat slider as well cuz mapping 00:12:175 will make things a bit more consistent so it will make 00:10:747 feels less random from a sudden denser rhythm.
I'm not sure how you NC stuff in Easy so please recheck them just in case

[Normal]

  1. AR5 please, similar reasoning as Easy, you can search for ranked maps with a similar bpm and compare your map with those maps.
  2. HP4 would be better cuz HP3 are mostly used with Easy nowadays.
  3. 00:04:675 (1) - Feels pretty random when the other diffs are mapped on this part and then you put a spinner only on this diff.
[Hard]

  1. 01:10:389 (1) - Unsnapped.
Popped the bubble due to an unsnapped slider, call me back later for a rebubble once you're done fixing.
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Electoz wrote:

[Easy]

  1. AR3? AR4 is mostly used with Normal or Easy with very high bpm songs, which is not in this case. fix
  2. 00:10:389 (1) - The rhythm is playing consistently so a 2/1 slider here would be better to keep consistency with other sliders in this section, or if you want to make some variety stuff then I suggest make 00:11:818 (2) a 1/1 repeat slider as well cuz mapping 00:12:175 will make things a bit more consistent so it will make 00:10:747 feels less random from a sudden denser rhythm. changed into 2/1
I'm not sure how you NC stuff in Easy so please recheck them just in case I saw some inconsistencies now that I look back into it. So I went through the entire difficulty again.

[Normal]

  1. AR5 please, similar reasoning as Easy, you can search for ranked maps with a similar bpm and compare your map with those maps. fix
  2. HP4 would be better cuz HP3 are mostly used with Easy nowadays. fix
  3. 00:04:675 (1) - Feels pretty random when the other diffs are mapped on this part and then you put a spinner only on this diff. youre right, going to stay consistent
[Hard]

  1. 01:10:389 (1) - Unsnapped wow... aimod didn't alert me about that. fixed.
Popped the bubble due to an unsnapped slider, call me back later for a rebubble once you're done fixing.
Looks like I changed everything.

Thanks!
Electoz
00:12:889 - whoops please recheck on this point, hitsounds seems to be a bit inconsistent among the difficulties.

[Easy]

  1. 00:05:925 - Why this one has a clap while other diffs don't have one?
  2. 00:08:247 - 00:09:407 - Whistle instead of a clap? According to other difficulties.
[Normal]

  1. 00:05:747 - Other diffs used finish here instead of a clap though.
  2. 00:06:282 - Missing clap.
  3. 00:06:997 - 00:07:354 - Use clap instead? According to Hard and Insane.
[Hard]

  1. 00:01:818 - Missing whistle.
  2. 00:06:907 - Insane has a clap but this one doesn't.
There's more actually but I'm not sure whether these inconsistencies are intentional so I only checked the first 10 seconds, if these aren't intentional then please recheck all diffs again to make sure the hitsounds are consistent.
Electoz
Also fixed an NC at 00:05:925 in Normal.
Rebubbled!
Cerulean Veyron
hi davided

uncheck widescreen supp on easy diff cuz other diffs already had it unchecked

solid and interesting map~ kthnx!
Electoz
Rebubbled.
alacat
Qualify :3
Lokidoki
Congrats on second qualified, bro!~
Topic Starter
Dilectus
Nice 8-)

Thanks again to all the modders
Imakuri
gratz boi ! :3
Agatsu
Congrats! :)
headphonewearer
nice :)
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