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11:07 Mir: Hanatan - If [You're Happy and You Know It Clap Your Hands!]
11:07 Flezlin: LOL
11:07 Flezlin: mir ily
11:07 Mir: ily too
11:08 Flezlin: aw tjhx
11:08 Flezlin: hey wanna take a look at mapt ho
11:08 Flezlin: i just remapped like 90% of it
11:08 Mir: ye sure
11:08 Flezlin: ayy thx
11:08 *Flezlin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1315976 Hanatan - If [Painful Longing]]
11:08 Flezlin: i still need to clean up some stuff
11:08 Flezlin: but the general idea is there
11:11 Mir: 01:59:568 (1) - bleh
11:11 Mir: :x
11:11 Flezlin: :x
11:12 Flezlin: yea i dont like that either
11:12 Flezlin: idk what shapes to use x_x
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh
11:12 Mir: 02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - following piano and the part before pretty intently
11:12 Flezlin: oh
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - then ignores piano :(
11:13 Flezlin: whaaa??
11:13 Flezlin: i thought piano went 1/4 here
11:13 Mir: nope it's still 1/3
11:13 Flezlin: oh wait
11:13 Flezlin: only last 5
11:13 Mir: ye
11:13 Mir: 02:32:597 (3,4,5) - 1/6 :x
11:14 Flezlin: pls spare me this will ruin my pattern qq
11:14 Flezlin: yea ik its 1/6
11:14 Flezlin: but
11:14 Flezlin: uhhh
11:14 Mir: buzzy slider?
11:14 Flezlin: idk i simplified as spaced 1/4
11:14 Flezlin: ewwww
11:14 Flezlin: this is such a strong sound
11:14 Mir: ok no buzz slider then
11:14 Mir: i guess it works tho
11:15 Flezlin: 02:41:684 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - ok these are overdone dont look at them
11:15 Mir: i was about to say
11:15 Mir: what were you smoking
11:15 Flezlin: LOl
11:15 Flezlin: the map was harder before that ok
11:15 Flezlin: i nerfed things and didnt change that yet
11:16 Mir: o
11:16 Mir: okay
11:16 Mir: 03:10:969 (3) - reverse tick is too late
11:17 Mir: bpm needs to be sped up a bit there
11:17 Flezlin: o that got unsnapped
11:17 Flezlin: wait
11:17 Flezlin: i forgot what i had before tht worked
11:17 Mir: 1/12
11:17 Flezlin: fuk
11:18 Flezlin: aaaaa
11:18 Mir: 03:17:248 (1) - OH
11:18 Mir: MY
11:18 Mir: GOD
11:18 Mir: FLEZZLWES
11:18 Flezlin: :o
11:18 Mir: SILENCE THIS SLIDER SLIDE OR I WILL COME TO AMERICA AND FUCKING LIGHT A FIRE UNDER YOUR ASS
11:18 Flezlin: OOP
11:18 Flezlin: pls
11:18 Mir: such a beautiful moment in the song then
11:18 Flezlin: wait how od i do thta idk hitsounds fml
11:18 Mir: ERRERERERRRRERERRRERERRRERR
11:19 Flezlin: LOL
11:19 Mir: 03:17:248 - give this timing point a custom thing
11:19 Mir: get a silent 44 byte file and name it ____sliderslide
11:19 Mir: with a number at the end
11:19 Mir: and give that number to the timing point and it should silence it
11:19 Flezlin: custom sampleset?
11:19 Flezlin: ooooh
11:19 Mir: yeah
11:19 Flezlin: ok
11:19 Flezlin: thx
11:20 Flezlin: and uhh
11:20 Flezlin: part after that
11:20 Flezlin: is remaining 10%
11:20 Flezlin: that i need to adjust
11:20 Mir: ah okay
11:20 Flezlin: the slow part before last kiai i mean
11:20 Mir: but you did do the kiai
11:20 Mir: right
11:21 Flezlin: yea
11:21 Flezlin: that and everything after
11:22 Mir: 04:19:988 (1) - might wanna lower spacing on this
11:22 Mir: not as strong as the rest of the jumps, no hitsound on it either
11:22 Mir: 04:18:834 (1,1) - could stack it with these
11:22 Flezlin: ok yea
11:23 Mir: 04:22:295 (6) - NC?
11:23 Mir: downbeat here
11:23 Flezlin: aaa that kinda ruins some of my pattern but yea spacing should be lower
11:23 Flezlin: oh alright
11:23 Flezlin: i wasn't sure lol
11:24 Mir: 04:29:219 (6) - here too
11:24 Mir: most of your combos in the map are sub-7
11:24 Flezlin: alright
11:24 Mir: so when they get higher than 7 it's like "what happened to the ncs"
11:24 Flezlin: llo
11:25 Mir: 04:42:199 (1) - if you play with the length of the sliderhead you can probably complete this flower
11:26 Flezlin: uhh im not sure about the rankability if i finish it
11:26 Flezlin: so i left sliderend clear
11:26 Mir: hmm
11:26 Flezlin: i mean, it doesnt look toooo bad......... .. .right .. .. ?
11:26 Mir: well i'll tell you some reasons i think it's rankable
11:27 Mir: 1. the start is pretty clear, you can't really misread it
11:27 Mir: 2. it's a flower that snakes out ccw
11:27 Mir: 3. the slider is slow enough that the ticks sort of spawn in as it plays so they "show the way"
11:27 Mir: yeah that's it
11:27 Flezlin: oh shit the ticks
11:27 Mir: pretty sure it's fine
11:27 Flezlin: yea i hope it is
11:28 Mir: so if you wanna you can finish it xd
11:28 Flezlin: at least it'll still be better than justability slider
11:28 Flezlin: xd
11:28 Mir: 04:54:315 (1,2,3) - nazi but spacing here?
11:29 Flezlin: that was intentional decrease
11:29 Mir: ah okay
11:29 Mir: 04:55:180 (1) - this threw me off
11:29 Flezlin: yea lol idk i thought it fit
11:29 Mir: if you stacked this underneath it it would be more clear that it's supposed to decrease
11:29 Flezlin: uhh
11:29 Flezlin: yea
11:29 Mir: that plus personally just stopping movement completely would work here since the song doesn't have as much emphasis on the 1
11:30 Flezlin: but its also a stronger sound i think . . ?
11:30 Mir: it's not *that* much stronger
11:30 Flezlin: uhh
11:30 Flezlin: ok
11:30 Mir: it's.. slightly stronger
11:30 Flezlin: yea ur right
11:30 Flezlin: idk
11:30 Flezlin: maybe ill ask more ppl
11:30 Mir: sounds gudo
11:30 Flezlin: i wanna stack it under with decreasing spacing
11:30 Flezlin: but idk lol
11:31 Flezlin: anyways
11:31 Mir: yeah just ask for more opinions
11:31 Flezlin: so what did you think of the map overall?
11:31 Mir: it's hard
11:31 Mir: hmm some aesthetic choices kinda tilt me
11:31 Flezlin: aaa shit like what?
11:31 Mir: some rhythmic stuff in the beginning too
11:31 Mir: well lets start with rhythm cuz it's probably easiest to explain for me
11:31 Flezlin: rhythmic stuff?
11:31 Flezlin: ok
11:32 Mir: 00:04:469 (5) - this starts on the background piano but ends on the piano that 00:03:027 (1,2,3,4) - was following
11:32 Mir: so maybe make its end clickable rather than the head
11:32 Flezlin: oh
11:33 Flezlin: i just reaaally wanted to avoid 1/2s lOL
11:33 Flezlin: but yea
11:33 Mir: 00:03:027 (1) - could remove this too actually cuz it starts on a background piano
11:33 Flezlin: ill fix beginning
11:33 Mir: o nvm
11:33 Mir: un-nc it instead
11:33 Flezlin: o
11:33 Flezlin: ok
11:33 Mir: that way if you nc 00:03:316 (1) - it makes more sense cuz you switch from background piano to the main one
11:34 Mir: 00:03:316 (2) - for you pre-nc
11:34 Mir: 00:06:200 (2,3,4) - isn't 3 a lot stronger than 4 here
11:35 Flezlin: oh i had pitch in mind
11:35 Mir: ah
11:35 Mir: you can still do pitch
11:35 Mir: just adjust the spacing
11:35 Flezlin: oko
11:36 Mir: 00:13:844 - damn it why did the song have to start here lol
11:36 Flezlin: lol
11:37 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - this is the biggest tilt-factor of aesthetics tbh
11:37 Flezlin: shud i add triple ? or kickslider
11:37 Mir: up to you, it works empty
11:37 Flezlin: ok
11:37 Flezlin: wait
11:37 Flezlin: oh
11:37 Flezlin: u dont like that slider shape?
11:37 Flezlin: qq
11:37 Mir: i don't not like it
11:37 Mir: i just feel it doesn't fit the rest of the shapes you use
11:37 Flezlin: o
11:37 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - it's too similar to this
11:37 Flezlin: ehhh
11:38 Mir: but they're like
11:38 Mir: ever so slightly different
11:38 Mir: cuz the red point is further away
11:38 Flezlin: i mean its just like a toned down ver
11:38 Flezlin: not as sharp
11:38 Mir: yeah but the sounds are the same that you put em on so
11:38 Flezlin: i mean imo
11:38 Flezlin: 00:26:107 (1) -
11:38 Flezlin: this
11:38 Flezlin: hold on
11:39 Flezlin: zzzzzzaaaaaaaaa
11:39 Flezlin: sound
11:39 Flezlin: would be sharper than
11:39 Flezlin: 00:24:376 (1) -
11:39 Flezlin: muuuuuuuu
11:39 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - waa
11:39 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - zaaaaa
11:39 Mir: or saaa idk
11:40 Mir: almost the same sound if you disregard the letter it starts on
11:40 Flezlin: idk zzz sounds like a harser sound to me
11:40 Flezlin: well
11:40 Mir: hmm
11:40 Flezlin: im probably inconsistent wit this anyway lOL
11:40 Flezlin: so i mean
11:40 Flezlin: idk what shape i'd change to tho
11:41 Mir: personally i would do https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/jsYEOdZ.png
11:41 Mir: idk why i just would
11:41 Flezlin: im not rly a fan of that shape tbh x_x
11:41 Mir: well sure in the end it's all subjective
11:41 Mir: if you decide to change it you can do so
11:42 Mir: but after hearing the reasoning it makes more sense as to why
11:42 Flezlin: ok lol
11:42 Flezlin: i mean my reasoning is probably bs and gonna be stomped on by mods and bns
11:42 Flezlin: :joy: :gun:
11:42 Mir: i don't.. quite agree with it but.. it makes sense
11:42 Mir: it's not something that would prevent a bubble or anything im sure
11:43 Flezlin: yea im dumb so
11:43 Mir: because it's subjective xd
11:43 Flezlin: yea true
11:43 Mir: but something that may prevent one is
11:43 Mir: some cases where piano spacing is the same if not higher than drum spacing
11:43 Flezlin: uh oh
11:43 Flezlin: ohhh fuck
11:43 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - perhaps take a look here
11:44 Mir: 00:32:309 (2,3,4,5,6) - i like this
11:44 Mir: 00:31:876 (1,2) - but these
11:44 Mir: piano only with 00:31:588 (1,2) - or even these
11:44 Flezlin: hmm
11:45 Flezlin: urk i really just wanna solely follow piano with these
11:45 Flezlin: is th at not ok?
11:45 Mir: it's not not okay but
11:45 Mir: having them the same spacing as your drum emphasis kills differentiation imo
11:45 Flezlin: no they all have piano tho
11:45 Flezlin: but yea ik what you'res saying
11:45 Mir: they all have piano yes
11:45 Mir: but they don't all have drums
11:46 Mir: but they're spaced as if they do all have drums
11:46 Mir: if that makes sense
11:46 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2) - sets up your drum spacing
11:46 Flezlin: yea
11:46 Mir: 00:31:588 (1,2) - then when has no drum and it's the same if not slightly higher it's like oh
11:47 Mir: it's kind of an easy fix if you just play around with your spacing there
11:47 Flezlin: i want to di e
11:47 Mir: 00:33:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this looks awesome tho
11:48 Flezlin: oh thanks
11:48 Mir: 00:48:607 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - okay
11:48 Mir: 00:50:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - where emphasis
11:48 Mir: where's the contrast :(
11:48 Mir: all of those boom booms and the spacing is kinda same-ish
11:49 Mir: 00:51:203 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - here it gets better tho
11:49 Flezlin: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
11:50 Mir: 01:00:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - cute even if subtle <3
11:50 Flezlin: o k end my life tbh
11:50 Flezlin: haha thanks
11:51 Mir: 01:02:453 - this section is pretty much spot on
11:51 Mir: very similar to how i would map it so bonus points for that xd
11:51 Flezlin: xd thanks
11:51 Flezlin: i spent like
11:51 Flezlin: an hour
11:51 Flezlin: deciding only the rhythm
11:51 Flezlin: for t his
11:51 Flezlin: like wtf i wanted to die
11:52 Flezlin: xd
11:52 Mir: it paid off really
11:52 Flezlin: aww thanks
11:52 Mir: 01:54:376 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - :thinking:
11:52 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :ythinkin:
11:53 Mir: 00:32:165 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i liked this more tbh :
11:53 Mir: :x
11:53 Flezlin: hmm
11:53 Flezlin: i didnt want to use the same pattern
11:53 Mir: it's very similar but
11:54 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4) - is a V-shape
11:54 Mir: 01:55:818 (5,6) - and this doesn't stack on 3
11:55 Mir: 02:00:434 (1,2) - sliiiiiiiiightly tilted
11:55 Mir: looks like you ran out of space LOL
11:55 Flezlin: LOL
11:55 Flezlin: omf
11:55 Flezlin: i did
11:56 Mir: 02:02:741 (1,1) - you already have spacing like this for 1/4 so
11:56 Flezlin: 02:02:741 (1,1) - ok wtf this flow makes me wanna die
11:56 Flezlin: ?
11:56 Mir: something like this https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/mmfUuTx.jpg may work
11:56 Flezlin: uhh
11:57 Flezlin: wait i dont really see
11:57 Flezlin: ohh
11:57 Flezlin: nvm
11:57 Mir: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/R0qBGp2.jpg
11:57 Mir: ideally 02:00:001 (2) - mirroring this might work
11:57 Mir: also lol 2:00:00*1*
11:57 Flezlin: tbh i wanted to do something like 01:46:588 (1,2) -
11:57 Mir: special snowflake slider right there
11:57 Flezlin: lol
11:57 Mir: ah i see
11:58 Mir: hmm well
11:58 Mir: it's kinda similar
11:58 Mir: ... kinda
11:58 Flezlin: pls
11:58 Mir: you can keep it but it shall forever tilt me
11:58 Flezlin: no ill fix it LOL
11:59 Flezlin: this tilts me too
11:59 Mir: oh okay LOL
11:59 Flezlin: also i wasn't expecting you to actually like go through and mod it x_x
11:59 Mir: o
11:59 Flezlin: i didnt want to take up your time so i only was looking for quick opinion lol
11:59 Mir: it's fine i guess
11:59 Mir: i just woke up so i don't feel like studying
11:59 Flezlin: yea but now its 6 am for me LOL
11:59 Mir: o
12:00 Mir: i can do the rest as forum post if you want
12:00 Flezlin: so uhhh
12:00 Flezlin: u can post chatlogs i guess
thanks for the mod!Mir wrote:
Hanatan - If (You're Happy and You Know it Clap Your Hands!)11:07 Mir: Hanatan - If [You're Happy and You Know It Clap Your Hands!]
11:07 Flezlin: LOL
11:07 Flezlin: mir ily
11:07 Mir: ily too
11:08 Flezlin: aw tjhx
11:08 Flezlin: hey wanna take a look at mapt ho
11:08 Flezlin: i just remapped like 90% of it
11:08 Mir: ye sure
11:08 Flezlin: ayy thx
11:08 *Flezlin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1315976 Hanatan - If [Painful Longing]]
11:08 Flezlin: i still need to clean up some stuff
11:08 Flezlin: but the general idea is there
11:11 Mir: 01:59:568 (1) - bleh
11:11 Mir: :x
11:11 Flezlin: :x
11:12 Flezlin: yea i dont like that either
11:12 Flezlin: idk what shapes to use x_x
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh
11:12 Mir: 02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - following piano and the part before pretty intently
11:12 Flezlin: oh
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - then ignores piano :(
11:13 Flezlin: whaaa??
11:13 Flezlin: i thought piano went 1/4 here
11:13 Mir: nope it's still 1/3
11:13 Flezlin: oh wait
11:13 Flezlin: only last 5
11:13 Mir: ye
11:13 Mir: 02:32:597 (3,4,5) - 1/6 :x
11:14 Flezlin: pls spare me this will ruin my pattern qq
11:14 Flezlin: yea ik its 1/6
11:14 Flezlin: but
11:14 Flezlin: uhhh
11:14 Mir: buzzy slider?
11:14 Flezlin: idk i simplified as spaced 1/4
11:14 Flezlin: ewwww
11:14 Flezlin: this is such a strong sound
11:14 Mir: ok no buzz slider then
11:14 Mir: i guess it works tho
11:15 Flezlin: 02:41:684 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - ok these are overdone dont look at them
11:15 Mir: i was about to say
11:15 Mir: what were you smoking
11:15 Flezlin: LOl
11:15 Flezlin: the map was harder before that ok
11:15 Flezlin: i nerfed things and didnt change that yet
11:16 Mir: o
11:16 Mir: okay
11:16 Mir: 03:10:969 (3) - reverse tick is too late
11:17 Mir: bpm needs to be sped up a bit there
11:17 Flezlin: o that got unsnapped
11:17 Flezlin: wait
11:17 Flezlin: i forgot what i had before tht worked
11:17 Mir: 1/12
11:17 Flezlin: fuk
11:18 Flezlin: aaaaa
11:18 Mir: 03:17:248 (1) - OH
11:18 Mir: MY
11:18 Mir: GOD
11:18 Mir: FLEZZLWES
11:18 Flezlin: :o
11:18 Mir: SILENCE THIS SLIDER SLIDE OR I WILL COME TO AMERICA AND FUCKING LIGHT A FIRE UNDER YOUR ASS
11:18 Flezlin: OOP
11:18 Flezlin: pls
11:18 Mir: such a beautiful moment in the song then
11:18 Flezlin: wait how od i do thta idk hitsounds fml
11:18 Mir: ERRERERERRRRERERRRERERRRERR
11:19 Flezlin: LOL
11:19 Mir: 03:17:248 - give this timing point a custom thing
11:19 Mir: get a silent 44 byte file and name it ____sliderslide
11:19 Mir: with a number at the end
11:19 Mir: and give that number to the timing point and it should silence it
11:19 Flezlin: custom sampleset?
11:19 Flezlin: ooooh
11:19 Mir: yeah
11:19 Flezlin: ok
11:19 Flezlin: thx
11:20 Flezlin: and uhh
11:20 Flezlin: part after that
11:20 Flezlin: is remaining 10%
11:20 Flezlin: that i need to adjust
11:20 Mir: ah okay
11:20 Flezlin: the slow part before last kiai i mean
11:20 Mir: but you did do the kiai
11:20 Mir: right
11:21 Flezlin: yea
11:21 Flezlin: that and everything after
11:22 Mir: 04:19:988 (1) - might wanna lower spacing on this
11:22 Mir: not as strong as the rest of the jumps, no hitsound on it either
11:22 Mir: 04:18:834 (1,1) - could stack it with these
11:22 Flezlin: ok yea
11:23 Mir: 04:22:295 (6) - NC?
11:23 Mir: downbeat here
11:23 Flezlin: aaa that kinda ruins some of my pattern but yea spacing should be lower
11:23 Flezlin: oh alright
11:23 Flezlin: i wasn't sure lol
11:24 Mir: 04:29:219 (6) - here too
11:24 Mir: most of your combos in the map are sub-7
11:24 Flezlin: alright
11:24 Mir: so when they get higher than 7 it's like "what happened to the ncs"
11:24 Flezlin: llo
11:25 Mir: 04:42:199 (1) - if you play with the length of the sliderhead you can probably complete this flower
11:26 Flezlin: uhh im not sure about the rankability if i finish it
11:26 Flezlin: so i left sliderend clear
11:26 Mir: hmm
11:26 Flezlin: i mean, it doesnt look toooo bad......... .. .right .. .. ?
11:26 Mir: well i'll tell you some reasons i think it's rankable
11:27 Mir: 1. the start is pretty clear, you can't really misread it
11:27 Mir: 2. it's a flower that snakes out ccw
11:27 Mir: 3. the slider is slow enough that the ticks sort of spawn in as it plays so they "show the way"
11:27 Mir: yeah that's it
11:27 Flezlin: oh shit the ticks
11:27 Mir: pretty sure it's fine
11:27 Flezlin: yea i hope it is
11:28 Mir: so if you wanna you can finish it xd
11:28 Flezlin: at least it'll still be better than justability slider
11:28 Flezlin: xd
11:28 Mir: 04:54:315 (1,2,3) - nazi but spacing here?
11:29 Flezlin: that was intentional decrease
11:29 Mir: ah okay
11:29 Mir: 04:55:180 (1) - this threw me off
11:29 Flezlin: yea lol idk i thought it fit
11:29 Mir: if you stacked this underneath it it would be more clear that it's supposed to decrease
11:29 Flezlin: uhh
11:29 Flezlin: yea
11:29 Mir: that plus personally just stopping movement completely would work here since the song doesn't have as much emphasis on the 1
11:30 Flezlin: but its also a stronger sound i think . . ?
11:30 Mir: it's not *that* much stronger
11:30 Flezlin: uhh
11:30 Flezlin: ok
11:30 Mir: it's.. slightly stronger
11:30 Flezlin: yea ur right
11:30 Flezlin: idk
11:30 Flezlin: maybe ill ask more ppl
11:30 Mir: sounds gudo
11:30 Flezlin: i wanna stack it under with decreasing spacing
11:30 Flezlin: but idk lol
11:31 Flezlin: anyways
11:31 Mir: yeah just ask for more opinions
11:31 Flezlin: so what did you think of the map overall?
11:31 Mir: it's hard
11:31 Mir: hmm some aesthetic choices kinda tilt me
11:31 Flezlin: aaa shit like what?
11:31 Mir: some rhythmic stuff in the beginning too
11:31 Mir: well lets start with rhythm cuz it's probably easiest to explain for me
11:31 Flezlin: rhythmic stuff?
11:31 Flezlin: ok
11:32 Mir: 00:04:469 (5) - this starts on the background piano but ends on the piano that 00:03:027 (1,2,3,4) - was following
11:32 Mir: so maybe make its end clickable rather than the head
11:32 Flezlin: oh
11:33 Flezlin: i just reaaally wanted to avoid 1/2s lOL
11:33 Flezlin: but yea
11:33 Mir: 00:03:027 (1) - could remove this too actually cuz it starts on a background piano
11:33 Flezlin: ill fix beginning
11:33 Mir: o nvm
11:33 Mir: un-nc it instead
11:33 Flezlin: o
11:33 Flezlin: ok
11:33 Mir: that way if you nc 00:03:316 (1) - it makes more sense cuz you switch from background piano to the main one
11:34 Mir: 00:03:316 (2) - for you pre-nc
11:34 Mir: 00:06:200 (2,3,4) - isn't 3 a lot stronger than 4 here
11:35 Flezlin: oh i had pitch in mind
11:35 Mir: ah
11:35 Mir: you can still do pitch
11:35 Mir: just adjust the spacing
11:35 Flezlin: oko
11:36 Mir: 00:13:844 - damn it why did the song have to start here lol
11:36 Flezlin: lol
11:37 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - this is the biggest tilt-factor of aesthetics tbh
11:37 Flezlin: shud i add triple ? or kickslider
11:37 Mir: up to you, it works empty
11:37 Flezlin: ok
11:37 Flezlin: wait
11:37 Flezlin: oh
11:37 Flezlin: u dont like that slider shape?
11:37 Flezlin: qq
11:37 Mir: i don't not like it
11:37 Mir: i just feel it doesn't fit the rest of the shapes you use
11:37 Flezlin: o
11:37 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - it's too similar to this
11:37 Flezlin: ehhh
11:38 Mir: but they're like
11:38 Mir: ever so slightly different
11:38 Mir: cuz the red point is further away
11:38 Flezlin: i mean its just like a toned down ver
11:38 Flezlin: not as sharp
11:38 Mir: yeah but the sounds are the same that you put em on so
11:38 Flezlin: i mean imo
11:38 Flezlin: 00:26:107 (1) -
11:38 Flezlin: this
11:38 Flezlin: hold on
11:39 Flezlin: zzzzzzaaaaaaaaa
11:39 Flezlin: sound
11:39 Flezlin: would be sharper than
11:39 Flezlin: 00:24:376 (1) -
11:39 Flezlin: muuuuuuuu
11:39 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - waa
11:39 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - zaaaaa
11:39 Mir: or saaa idk
11:40 Mir: almost the same sound if you disregard the letter it starts on
11:40 Flezlin: idk zzz sounds like a harser sound to me
11:40 Flezlin: well
11:40 Mir: hmm
11:40 Flezlin: im probably inconsistent wit this anyway lOL
11:40 Flezlin: so i mean
11:40 Flezlin: idk what shape i'd change to tho
11:41 Mir: personally i would do https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/jsYEOdZ.png
11:41 Mir: idk why i just would
11:41 Flezlin: im not rly a fan of that shape tbh x_x
11:41 Mir: well sure in the end it's all subjective
11:41 Mir: if you decide to change it you can do so
11:42 Mir: but after hearing the reasoning it makes more sense as to why
11:42 Flezlin: ok lol
11:42 Flezlin: i mean my reasoning is probably bs and gonna be stomped on by mods and bns
11:42 Flezlin: :joy: :gun:
11:42 Mir: i don't.. quite agree with it but.. it makes sense
11:42 Mir: it's not something that would prevent a bubble or anything im sure
11:43 Flezlin: yea im dumb so
11:43 Mir: because it's subjective xd
11:43 Flezlin: yea true
11:43 Mir: but something that may prevent one is
11:43 Mir: some cases where piano spacing is the same if not higher than drum spacing
11:43 Flezlin: uh oh
11:43 Flezlin: ohhh fuck
11:43 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - perhaps take a look here
11:44 Mir: 00:32:309 (2,3,4,5,6) - i like this
11:44 Mir: 00:31:876 (1,2) - but these
11:44 Mir: piano only with 00:31:588 (1,2) - or even these
11:44 Flezlin: hmm
11:45 Flezlin: urk i really just wanna solely follow piano with these
11:45 Flezlin: is th at not ok?
11:45 Mir: it's not not okay but
11:45 Mir: having them the same spacing as your drum emphasis kills differentiation imo
11:45 Flezlin: no they all have piano tho
11:45 Flezlin: but yea ik what you'res saying
11:45 Mir: they all have piano yes
11:45 Mir: but they don't all have drums
11:46 Mir: but they're spaced as if they do all have drums
11:46 Mir: if that makes sense
11:46 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2) - sets up your drum spacing
11:46 Flezlin: yea
11:46 Mir: 00:31:588 (1,2) - then when has no drum and it's the same if not slightly higher it's like oh
11:47 Mir: it's kind of an easy fix if you just play around with your spacing there
11:47 Flezlin: i want to di e
11:47 Mir: 00:33:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this looks awesome tho
11:48 Flezlin: oh thanks
11:48 Mir: 00:48:607 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - okay
11:48 Mir: 00:50:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - where emphasis
11:48 Mir: where's the contrast :(
11:48 Mir: all of those boom booms and the spacing is kinda same-ish
11:49 Mir: 00:51:203 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - here it gets better tho
11:49 Flezlin: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
11:50 Mir: 01:00:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - cute even if subtle <3
11:50 Flezlin: o k end my life tbh
11:50 Flezlin: haha thanks
11:51 Mir: 01:02:453 - this section is pretty much spot on
11:51 Mir: very similar to how i would map it so bonus points for that xd
11:51 Flezlin: xd thanks
11:51 Flezlin: i spent like
11:51 Flezlin: an hour
11:51 Flezlin: deciding only the rhythm
11:51 Flezlin: for t his
11:51 Flezlin: like wtf i wanted to die
11:52 Flezlin: xd
11:52 Mir: it paid off really
11:52 Flezlin: aww thanks
11:52 Mir: 01:54:376 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - :thinking:
11:52 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :ythinkin:
11:53 Mir: 00:32:165 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i liked this more tbh :
11:53 Mir: :x
11:53 Flezlin: hmm
11:53 Flezlin: i didnt want to use the same pattern
11:53 Mir: it's very similar but
11:54 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4) - is a V-shape
11:54 Mir: 01:55:818 (5,6) - and this doesn't stack on 3
11:55 Mir: 02:00:434 (1,2) - sliiiiiiiiightly tilted
11:55 Mir: looks like you ran out of space LOL
11:55 Flezlin: LOL
11:55 Flezlin: omf
11:55 Flezlin: i did
11:56 Mir: 02:02:741 (1,1) - you already have spacing like this for 1/4 so
11:56 Flezlin: 02:02:741 (1,1) - ok wtf this flow makes me wanna die
11:56 Flezlin: ?
11:56 Mir: something like this https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/mmfUuTx.jpg may work
11:56 Flezlin: uhh
11:57 Flezlin: wait i dont really see
11:57 Flezlin: ohh
11:57 Flezlin: nvm
11:57 Mir: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/R0qBGp2.jpg
11:57 Mir: ideally 02:00:001 (2) - mirroring this might work
11:57 Mir: also lol 2:00:00*1*
11:57 Flezlin: tbh i wanted to do something like 01:46:588 (1,2) -
11:57 Mir: special snowflake slider right there
11:57 Flezlin: lol
11:57 Mir: ah i see
11:58 Mir: hmm well
11:58 Mir: it's kinda similar
11:58 Mir: ... kinda
11:58 Flezlin: pls
11:58 Mir: you can keep it but it shall forever tilt me
11:58 Flezlin: no ill fix it LOL
11:59 Flezlin: this tilts me too
11:59 Mir: oh okay LOL
11:59 Flezlin: also i wasn't expecting you to actually like go through and mod it x_x
11:59 Mir: o
11:59 Flezlin: i didnt want to take up your time so i only was looking for quick opinion lol
11:59 Mir: it's fine i guess
11:59 Mir: i just woke up so i don't feel like studying
11:59 Flezlin: yea but now its 6 am for me LOL
11:59 Mir: o
12:00 Mir: i can do the rest as forum post if you want
12:00 Flezlin: so uhhh
12:00 Flezlin: u can post chatlogs i guess
the rest:
[Painful Longing]
- 02:15:145 - is it just me or does this entire part feel extremely underwhelming.. 02:16:011 (1,2,3) - spacing is kinda pathetic eek they're supposed to be increasing in spacing but ill add more emphasis
- 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - we talked mir ur killing my patterns help
- 02:35:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - mmm idk, piano is quite animated here but it's a stacked stream (basically) might wanna space it a bit towards the end? hmm this was supposed to be more of a transition into the next section with guitar stuff
- 02:36:347 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - too much spacing here, not many strong sounds yea ur right
- 02:41:972 - you mentioned mhm
- 02:55:818 (1) - 02:48:895 (4) - choose NC oops
- 02:58:703 (1) - too much spacing perhaps like i mentioned before, 02:59:857 (1) - also seems like a bit much despite having piano on it, a lot of these have drums on it so the drums will naturally be what people expect spacing on i think 02:59:857 (1) - should be alright but ill do something about 02:58:703 (1) - i guess
- 03:17:248 (1) - sliderslide mute please as we said yep
- 03:22:156 (1) - slow slider could work to really capture that long vocal into the next section oo yea that'd be nice
- 03:27:409 (1) - reverse doesn't really fit imo when you used 03:25:573 (1,2,3) - and the reverse head and tail are two seperate phrase parts, happens at 03:42:103 (3) - maybe elsewhere uhh yea this section is kinda old so im not too sure what was happening here either, ill probably be adjusting this entire section
- 03:31:083 (3) - fix ncs // 03:42:103 (3) - 03:45:777 (3) - ok why is this section so bad
- 04:01:526 (1,2,1,2,3) - 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmmmmm rhythm? i wanted to do the same thing but there's like literally no sound at 04:02:247 - , no piano, no drums,
- 04:07:295 (1,2) - works as a triple cuz all your drums are strong here idk if i wanna do triple here, i kinda like this tbh
- 04:14:507 - some of the jumps here seem really overdone but.. idk that might be personal. for example: 04:15:661 (5,6,7) - (basically your non-jump sections don't contrast very well cuz they're pretty high spacing already) yea there's still a lot of other spacing things throughout the map that ill be going through and fixing
- 04:37:151 (2,2) - spacing on these is pathetic tbh idk if i rly wanna space these out that much aaa
- 04:38:160 (5,6,7,8,1) - could use differentiation, maybe space these out cuz snares on them well i mean the song is mostly cooling down here and i only really had the guitar in mind but i might consider doing a kickslider into triple or something..
- 04:42:199 (1) - we talked (silence slide too here?) yep
Good luck Flezzles! Keep fighting~
thanks for the mod!Shogud wrote:
Hello!
From my modding queue:
Painful LongingHp is really low, you can miss a whole stream and still pass (which is what i did lol) yea that's an intentional gimmick i have lol
00:00:143 (1,2,3) - Spacing on these is inconsistent oops this entire section is a mess tbh
00:07:066 (1,2,3) - ^ g
00:15:434 (1) - These motherfuckers i'm pretty sure i lost like 10% on my testplay from missed sliderends, it's almost impossible to tell them apart. I'd make them into 1/2 beat sliders or increase the SV so you can tell them apart from the actual 1/2 sliders each of these is nc'd and it happens pretty consistently so hopefully the player should realize that these are a reoccuring thing also the actual 1/2 sliders are still shorter http://i.imgur.com/FMngc1H.png
00:18:895 (1) - You should make this parallel with 00:19:184 (1), it would look cleaner oh yea it should've been i guess i accidentally messed it up
00:22:645 (1) - this slider is kinda ugly, and you have such nice slider art later, maybe change it to something like this? hmm im not really a fan of that shape but ill see if i can think of anything better to change to
00:32:741 (5,6) - The spacing here decreases a little too quickly and makes it awkward to play personally i like this and the piano is also really faint on 00:32:886 (6) - , hence the smaller jump
02:37:645 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - If youre following the drums here shouldnt it go 4 spaced 4 normal 4 spaced instead of the 8 spaced and 4 normal you have now? hmm i think im following the guitar more in this section
02:44:532 (1) - I think it'd be better to face this the same way as the rest of the singles, even though i know it's meant to overlap with 02:46:299 (1), they're just so far apart that it doesnt even matter uhh yea maybe
02:49:472 (1) - See stuff like this is fine since the guitar is actually doing something cool, but the vocals from before arent really doing anything different ehhhh come on its just a gimmick for emphasis on the stronger songs
03:24:654 (1,2) - They should be mirrored anglesoops yea
03:41:185 (1,2) - Maybe fully overlap the sliderends? Might look better honestly im probably going to remap this section since its dumb rn
I was gonna make a joke about this being painfully long but it's actually really well made and fun to play (Except those goddamn 3/4 sliders plz fix) lmao
GL with rank!
thanks for the mod![Nemesis] wrote:
Mod from my queue.
Painful Longing
00:29:568 (1) - don't curve it at the end, a slider like this one 00:26:107 (1) - would be better imo subjective lol?
00:39:953 (1) - see? you used it over there ya well i can use both alright
00:44:280 (1,1,1) - use just one NC, the other two are unnecessary its used to show slider velocity change
00:46:011 (1,2,3) - *applies to all of the patterns used with the same sound: moving the sliders 1/4 of the beat earlier makes it sound and flow much smoother, try it out! that messes up the rhythm a lot lol, first slider starts on drum sound and continues as 1/2 to keep rhythm playable
00:58:991 (1) - I'm not sure if it's really such an important sound to have a jump this big 00:58:847 (2,1) - , I'd decrease the spacing there well it marks the end of the section so im pretty sure it'd be fine even if this was the biggest jump,
01:02:453 - hey, those vocals are pretty neat agre
01:45:434 (1) - this SV is 0.10x bigger than the previous one with ideally the same sound 01:43:703 (1) - , why is that? o yea changed
02:00:434 (1) - again, not a fan of this slider shape ehh i mean i like it
02:06:491 (1) - ^ .
02:08:222 - hey, that piano plays pretty neat lol thx
02:11:251 (1) - why isn't this just a 1/2 slider lol because its not a 1/2 sound lol? the piano ends early here
02:15:145 - hey, that orgasmic sound is pretty orgasmic g
02:22:934 - and 02:24:665 - are two different ideas used for identical song parts, keep them more consistent (I'd personally use the first concept, it plays gorgeously) second occurrence has 1/4 drums, but the first time there's just a lot of emphasis where the kicksliders are
02:26:107 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - NCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNC why to visibly show 1/3 rhythm
02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ 1/3 rhythm
02:32:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - why no NC's there lol because its not 1/3 lol
02:36:203 - okay that's clearly too deep to be "just a sigh" uhh sorry im not really sure what you mean by this lol
02:42:838 (1) - again, I'd nerf the spacing a little hmm maybe rn its stacked under 02:41:251 (1) -
02:47:165 - and 02:48:895 - are the same, why do you vary patterns there lol 02:47:165 - has continuous 1/4 drums while 02:48:895 - is solely guitar
02:54:088 - and 02:55:818 - ^ same as above
03:16:131 - what's the point of this green line? oops removed
03:17:248 - hey, that cute flower is pretty cute lol thanks
03:29:246 (1) - remove NC im actually gonna redo this section xd
03:43:481 (1) - ^ yea this section is bad
03:49:988 - hey, that stunning vocal part is pretty stunning lol yea hanatan is amazing
03:59:795 (1,1,1) - unnecessary NC's again used consistently to show sv changes xd
04:13:642 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - and again (compare this to 03:01:155 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - )
04:29:795 (1) - either stack or move further away, looks like you couldn't make a decision there oops must've accidentally moved it
04:33:834 (1,1) - not sure if that's necessary, the rhythm doesn't change at all and you could just use these patterns instead 04:32:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - following the 1/3 piano here
04:52:872 (1) - move it further away (04:52:872 (1,3) - this for comparison) uhh im not really sure if it matters since there's such a long gap in rhythm, so i think it just looks better stacked under the slider tail
05:00:372 - I just realised it's exactly 5 mins long, why don't you just go for approval ROFL i am going for approval lol
That's all from me, good map.
gl
thanks for the mod lolOtakuFlame wrote:
Birthday mod \:D/
[Painful Longing]
00:12:835 (1,2) - Plz ctrl+G, it would emphasize the melody better since it goes from higher sound tone to lower ( 00:11:969 (1,2) - ) and then from the same lower tone to higher.
00:23:511 (1) - Why nc, sometimes u put an nc, sometimes u don't... yea its used for slider velocity changes
00:37:357 (1) - ^ ^
01:36:491 (1) - Slider end not snapped wtf where did my green lines go (they were supposed to be 0.75x, 0.65x, 0.55x), fixed
01:36:780 (1) - ^
01:46:588 (1) - Why nc here again same as above
02:00:434 (1) - ^
02:11:251 (1) - Imo this slider should end on the white tick 02:11:395 - here no its actually a 1/3 slider and ends before the white tick due to the piano sound on the tail
03:03:318 (1,2) - Random followpoint because of inconsistent spacing fixed, i just used ctrl f so i didnt really check over that lol
03:36:593 (1) - This slider also should be a bit longer and end on blue tick 03:36:593 (1) - here. Yeah, there was one short slider like that, following the piano in before but as you probably know piano wasn't digitally generated but just live recorded (what also shows that u had to start slider on 1/8 yellow tick 02:44:532 (1) - here) so it doesn't mean they gotta have the same duration. It's more about finding the closest tick to the piano sound to snap the slider to. i mean thats what im doing lol, this slider ends on the piano which is at the yellow tick
03:49:411 (6) - Maybe new combo here i dont think its really necessary since its all part of the drum buildup but ill check
03:52:872 (1) - And again xd why nc explained already
04:06:719 (1) - ^
That's all
gl with ranking it finally
Kalibe wrote:
itssogood
- 00:14:017 (1,2) - can you space them diffirently than others 00:16:180 (2) - 00:17:911 (2) - since it's not the same snapping thing, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10799215 might work in this case oh yea ur right, fixed
- 00:20:074 (1) - using normal whistle on slidertail would be cute, also remove whistle from sliderend, since it lands on nothing changed
- 00:59:016 (1) - that's a strong drum sound so drum sample + finish sounds good ok done
- for parts like 01:02:479 (1) - 01:09:402 (1) - 01:16:325 (1) - hihats are really strong in the backgrounds so doing instead 1/2 slider + circle wouldn't be a bad option http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10799279 example uhh personally i dont really like the idea of doing that, and i think the 1/1 slider works because of that strong sound on the heads (idk what it even is)
- 01:36:805 (1,1) - seems pretty overspaced to what song offer imo, try maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10799299 or something diffirent if you don't like overlap changed some stuff so its closer
- 02:25:556 (1) - clap is missing on end, 02:25:772 (2) - use whistle with drum addition, 02:39:114 (3) - whistle on head 03:34:468 (3) - also whistle on head ok done
- also for sliders like these 02:56:409 (1) - 02:49:487 (1) - normal whistle on tail would be cute ok done
- 03:41:662 (2,1) - this is kind of edgy patterns, if you wanna be more safe, do a ctrl g on each slider 03:41:203 (1) - 03:41:662 (2) - 03:42:121 (1) - to what you had on 03:26:509 (1,2,1) - it's also cute changed
- 03:46:713 (1) - add whistle ok
- 03:48:568 (1) - feels really missing something, i'd add here finish, since that instrument start is really strong, also missing clap on 03:48:712 (2) - fixed, and i added finish + whistle
- 03:59:817 (1,1) - unstack is specially? i saw you're doing perfect stacks on similar patterns like 01:53:536 (1,1) - 00:30:459 (1,1) - etc oops that was accidental, fixed
- 04:01:692 (2,3,4) - i don't really get why spacing are decreasing here instead of increasing like you've done for 01:55:411 (2,3,4) - also 04:02:125 (1) - would be cooler as 2 circles to express piano like here for example 01:55:844 (5,6) - well i can only hear like one piano sound there, which is why its different
- 04:14:529 (1) - weird that you used drum additional hihat on sliderend only here, would be great adding it also on 04:14:529 (1) - 04:17:991 (1) - 04:21:452 (1) - 04:23:183 (1) - and etc. oh i dont think that was intentional, so i just removed it
that should be all i think
Arusamour wrote:
I know it's a bit late but i would like to inform you that you have made map-defining mistakes that i'd like to correct moving forward and i'd like anyone else reading this to learn and do so.
EXTRA+:Shattered Dreams (7.01 stars, 1262 notes)
- The slider-end of 00:20:074 (1) does not perfectly align with 00:20:579 (2) 's curvature... A.K.A, does not blanket concisely enough for my visual standards in mapping as of May 4, 2018. FIXED!
- To me, is very concerning on what you implied with 00:22:670 (1) 's curvature not circulating around 00:23:031 (1) 's slider-head. This is very disappointment to me. FIXED!
- As a discerning community member, going into 2018, i would not like to see motives being portrayed in the editor like you have no here: FIXED!
This showcases a lack of undesired understanding in osu!Mapping art form as i can clearly read from your uncaring slider wave. This is an uber disapointment.- 03:17:260 (1) - This is the prime peak of modern mapping thank you, very cool!