xDololow wrote:

[General]
You can change BG res to 1366x768 for make map lower 10 MBs. (Not necessary) lol i just changed to a 1920x1080 bg from previous mod

[Desolation]
00:47:597 (3) - move to x208 y16 (move comfortable flow) but that would ruin my back and forth motion
00:48:463 (2) - Ctrl + G ?? these are mirrored toward the center 00:47:597 (3) - , so i'd rather not
02:04:472 (3,4,5,6) - maybe try like this ? http://prntscr.com/e6wjrs uhh right now 02:04:184 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - forms a triangle that i'd like to keep
02:26:780 (1,1) - remove NC its to show that the stream is 1/3

Micro mod :> Realy cool map. Added to favs. thanks lo

Good Luck thanks for mod

RevengeZ wrote:

the older diff was like a masterpiece compared to this one imo

old diff had a lot of issues though, and i think this is still pretty similar

Flezlin wrote:

RevengeZ wrote:

the older diff was like a masterpiece compared to this one imo

old diff had a lot of issues though, and i think this is still pretty similar

Yeah butni compared them and ...idk i feel like (even if its kinda similar) the older patterns were more... Epic? Or intense, idk, its just my opinion tho xD

[General]

1. HP2? I know this is a fairly difficult map but anyone playing this for a pass should be able to deal with HP higher than 2. I would at the very least do 4 if you're set on a low hp, but would prefer 5 or 6.
2. That black combo color is extremely hard to see against your background and with 100% dim which is what most people use. You should probably change it to something else.

[Desolation]

1. 00:30:434 (1,1,1) - Wouldn't nc spam here, instead just keep them connected by being a group of 3 and then ncing afterwards.
2. 00:32:165 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nothing really changes in the music to warrant a change in nc structure as well as the patterning change. I would kinda like to see these circles arragned differently.
3. 00:44:280 (1,1,1) - Same as above, not gonna point this out if it happens again, just make a decision and be consistent if you change it.
4. 00:46:011 (4) - Would nc here, since this is clearly following a different instrument.
5. 00:47:741 (4) - Same, as well as removing the nc 00:48:318 (1) - here.
6. 00:52:934 (4) - Ya.
7. 00:54:665 (4) - Ya, (again done pointing this out)
8. 01:36:203 (3,1,2) - Could nc spam here if you wanted, or at least start the nc one slider earlier.
9. 02:15:992 - NC structure is inconsistent.

Ok this mod sucked because this map is good. Rank when, take another meaningless star.

Logic Agent wrote:

[General]

1. HP2? I know this is a fairly difficult map but anyone playing this for a pass should be able to deal with HP higher than 2. I would at the very least do 4 if you're set on a low hp, but would prefer 5 or 6. its my gimmick to go with the song lyrics lol
2. That black combo color is extremely hard to see against your background and with 100% dim which is what most people use. You should probably change it to something else. ok ya ur right ill find somethign else

[Desolation]

1. 00:30:434 (1,1,1) - Wouldn't nc spam here, instead just keep them connected by being a group of 3 and then ncing afterwards. but the sv changes here
2. 00:32:165 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nothing really changes in the music to warrant a change in nc structure as well as the patterning change. I would kinda like to see these circles arragned differently. ko ill remove ncs but i mean 00:32:165 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - has different drums and i like the pattern lo
3. 00:44:280 (1,1,1) - Same as above, not gonna point this out if it happens again, just make a decision and be consistent if you change it. tbh i think ill keep the ncs on sv changes
4. 00:46:011 (4) - Would nc here, since this is clearly following a different instrument. oka
5. 00:47:741 (4) - Same, as well as removing the nc 00:48:318 (1) - here. oko
6. 00:52:934 (4) - Ya. ,'[
7. 00:54:665 (4) - Ya, (again done pointing this out) ./
8. 01:36:203 (3,1,2) - Could nc spam here if you wanted, or at least start the nc one slider earlier. just nc'd 01:36:203 (3) -
9. 02:15:992 - NC structure is inconsistent. oops ur rite ok fixt

Ok this mod sucked because this map is good. Rank when, take another meaningless star. wow thx; rank when i die

thank 4 mod

Hello! from the OSUWOT modq. This is gonna be a short mod since I already think that your map is good. ^^ Nice use of star jumps and back and forth jumps.


Sorry, not very helpful but I really think your map is good. will give a star uwu

[- Mizki -] wrote:

Hello! from the OSUWOT modq. This is gonna be a short mod since I already think that your map is good. ^^ Nice use of star jumps and back and forth jumps.

Desolation

-00:19:184 (1) - kinda feel weird about this slider compared to the other sliders in the map, maybe change shape? only if i can think of a shape without messing other stuff up lol
-02:26:107 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - not sure if the colors are intended or not, you might want to check (red white white red?) uhh yea i still need to fix combo colors, thx for reminder
-02:42:405 (5,1,2,1) - too big of a jump? its pretty intense here, so i think the spacing works
-03:03:318 (5) - maybe nc? could be confusing and i dont really think i need to

Sorry, not very helpful but I really think your map is good. will give a star uwu thanks lol

thanks for mod

This map could use better control of difficult elements imo. Your patterning and flow are generally alright, could still be polished, but not bad. What it boils down to though, is that spacing doesn't always reflect the intensity of the song, and is often overstated in comparison to other sounds

00:25:097 (3,4) - For example, you seem to be emphasizing 4 with this arrangement, which is logical considering the vocals. but they are dwarfed by jumps like 00:25:530 (5,6) - that occur after, mapping to background drum sounds.
00:26:540 (2,3,1) - Same here. Does 3 deserve such a large jump?
00:40:674 (3,1) - This jump is just so bit all of a sudden. Compare it to 00:39:953 (1,2) - which also maps to the vocals.
00:40:818 (1,2,1) - Also 1>2 is a stronger jump than 2>1 but theres a stronger snare drum on 00:41:107 - .
00:42:549 (4,5,1) - Not seeing how 5>1 needs that big of a jump either, while 00:43:415 (1) - ends up getting very little emphasis due to the 3/4 slider.

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Good luck!

mod#

Monstrata wrote:

This map could use better control of difficult elements imo. Your patterning and flow are generally alright, could still be polished, but not bad. What it boils down to though, is that spacing doesn't always reflect the intensity of the song, and is often overstated in comparison to other sounds yea ur right, ill go through my map and see if i can improve on this

00:25:097 (3,4) - For example, you seem to be emphasizing 4 with this arrangement, which is logical considering the vocals. but they are dwarfed by jumps like 00:25:530 (5,6) - that occur after, mapping to background drum sounds.
00:26:540 (2,3,1) - Same here. Does 3 deserve such a large jump?
00:40:674 (3,1) - This jump is just so bit all of a sudden. Compare it to 00:39:953 (1,2) - which also maps to the vocals.
00:40:818 (1,2,1) - Also 1>2 is a stronger jump than 2>1 but theres a stronger snare drum on 00:41:107 - .
00:42:549 (4,5,1) - Not seeing how 5>1 needs that big of a jump either, while 00:43:415 (1) - ends up getting very little emphasis due to the 3/4 slider.
(all fixed)
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Good luck!

thank mr. monstrata

TequilaWolf wrote:

mod

Desolation-

I had to play with +10ms to get a nice hit error ok ill do something about the offset

00:14:424 (2,3) - probably just me, but found these really hard to hit 00:16:155 (2,3) - 00:17:886 (2,3) - 00:19:616 (2,3) - etc
02:11:251 (1) - was this meant to be 1/2 instead of 1/4 no its actually 1/6
02:20:626 (3) - all the way to 02:42:838 (1) - didn't look the cleanest but it played well ill see if i can make it neater
03:43:940 (1) - consider replacing with 1/2 slider and circle i think i prefer holding here
04:37:079 - 04:37:512 - would add note on both to make them triples i dont really hear anything that calls for 1/4..? unstacked tho
04:40:180 (7,8,1,2) - found this weird to hit, not sure why, maybe move 12 further away down from 78/increase spacing dont really want that large of a jump

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thanks for the mod

ok so my first impression after the testplay

00:17:165 (1,1) - please get rid of this stuff, its unintuitive to play, yes, its kinda follows the voice line, but its just bad and unnecessary here.
and there are so many places like that^
what i mean here, is that first slow slider shud be 1/2, not 3/4 or something like that.


02:22:068 - this part is unreadable, i mean... huh... it gets me triggered when i see stuff like 02:22:068 (1,2,3) -
do u actually understand the cursor movement here?
id suggest 02:22:213 (2,4) - ctrl g this, 02:22:357 (3,5) - this, and 02:22:501 (4,6) - this consequently
it shud be like this, proper 72 degrees angle jumps http://puu.sh/urK6K/b76cb17c42.jpg u can also swap 5,6 here.

please rework this part, its supper annoying to play and also it reminds me of raikozen random jump maps.

00:48:607 - ok this part, same thing, why did u put such intensive jumps
it doesnt feel like 00:48:751 - shud be emphasized in that way, so u shud understand that
00:48:607 (1,2) - (1) strong sound, (2) weak sound
distance between 1-2 shud be small, distance bettween 2-1 shud be big
u can emphasize stronger sounds in that way, but for now these are equal and SUPER annoying to play.
it just feels weird and out of place.

tbh im kinda tired and if u wud like a complex mod u can poke me in game

i know that feeling when u gotta remap so many times, well at the end u will regret of the time u spent on this map, but its up to u what to do anyways.
also i played some previous incarnations of this map, and it felt way better.

dont map for mappers/modders, u can end up in a situation where ur map wont be urs anymore.

Have some stars ヽ( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)⊃ ☆ﾟ. * ･ ☆ﾟ｡ﾟ

the rest:

[Painful Longing]
- 02:15:145 - is it just me or does this entire part feel extremely underwhelming.. 02:16:011 (1,2,3) - spacing is kinda pathetic
- 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - we talked
- 02:35:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - mmm idk, piano is quite animated here but it's a stacked stream (basically) might wanna space it a bit towards the end?
- 02:36:347 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - too much spacing here, not many strong sounds
- 02:41:972 - you mentioned
- 02:55:818 (1) - 02:48:895 (4) - choose NC
- 02:58:703 (1) - too much spacing perhaps like i mentioned before, 02:59:857 (1) - also seems like a bit much despite having piano on it, a lot of these have drums on it so the drums will naturally be what people expect spacing on
- 03:17:248 (1) - sliderslide mute please as we said
- 03:22:156 (1) - slow slider could work to really capture that long vocal into the next section
- 03:27:409 (1) - reverse doesn't really fit imo when you used 03:25:573 (1,2,3) - and the reverse head and tail are two seperate phrase parts, happens at 03:42:103 (3) - maybe elsewhere
- 03:31:083 (3) - fix ncs // 03:42:103 (3) - 03:45:777 (3) -
- 04:01:526 (1,2,1,2,3) - 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmmmmm rhythm?
- 04:07:295 (1,2) - works as a triple cuz all your drums are strong here
- 04:14:507 - some of the jumps here seem really overdone but.. idk that might be personal. for example: 04:15:661 (5,6,7) - (basically your non-jump sections don't contrast very well cuz they're pretty high spacing already)
- 04:37:151 (2,2) - spacing on these is pathetic tbh
- 04:38:160 (5,6,7,8,1) - could use differentiation, maybe space these out cuz snares on them
- 04:42:199 (1) - we talked (silence slide too here?)

Good luck Flezzles! Keep fighting~

Mir wrote:

Hanatan - If (You're Happy and You Know it Clap Your Hands!)

11:07 Mir: Hanatan - If [You're Happy and You Know It Clap Your Hands!]
11:07 Flezlin: LOL
11:07 Flezlin: mir ily
11:07 Mir: ily too
11:08 Flezlin: aw tjhx
11:08 Flezlin: hey wanna take a look at mapt  ho
11:08 Flezlin: i just remapped like 90% of it
11:08 Mir: ye sure
11:08 Flezlin: ayy thx
11:08 *Flezlin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1315976 Hanatan - If [Painful Longing]]
11:08 Flezlin: i still need to clean up some stuff
11:08 Flezlin: but the general idea is there
11:11 Mir: 01:59:568 (1) - bleh
11:11 Mir: :x
11:11 Flezlin: :x
11:12 Flezlin: yea i dont like that either
11:12 Flezlin: idk what shapes to use x_x
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh
11:12 Mir: 02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - following piano and the part before pretty intently
11:12 Flezlin: oh
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - then ignores piano :(
11:13 Flezlin: whaaa??
11:13 Flezlin: i thought piano went 1/4 here
11:13 Mir: nope it's still 1/3
11:13 Flezlin: oh wait
11:13 Flezlin: only last 5
11:13 Mir: ye
11:13 Mir: 02:32:597 (3,4,5) - 1/6 :x
11:14 Flezlin: pls spare me this will ruin my pattern qq
11:14 Flezlin: yea ik its 1/6
11:14 Flezlin: but
11:14 Flezlin: uhhh
11:14 Mir: buzzy slider?
11:14 Flezlin: idk i simplified as spaced 1/4
11:14 Flezlin: ewwww
11:14 Flezlin: this is such a strong sound
11:14 Mir: ok no buzz slider then
11:14 Mir: i guess it works tho
11:15 Flezlin: 02:41:684 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) -  ok these are overdone dont look at them
11:15 Mir:  i was about to say
11:15 Mir: what were you smoking
11:15 Flezlin: LOl
11:15 Flezlin: the map was harder before that ok
11:15 Flezlin: i nerfed things and didnt change that yet
11:16 Mir: o
11:16 Mir: okay
11:16 Mir: 03:10:969 (3) - reverse tick is too late 
11:17 Mir: bpm needs to be sped up a bit there
11:17 Flezlin: o that got unsnapped
11:17 Flezlin: wait
11:17 Flezlin: i forgot what i had before tht worked
11:17 Mir: 1/12
11:17 Flezlin: fuk
11:18 Flezlin: aaaaa
11:18 Mir: 03:17:248 (1) - OH
11:18 Mir: MY
11:18 Mir: GOD
11:18 Mir: FLEZZLWES
11:18 Flezlin: :o
11:18 Mir: SILENCE THIS SLIDER SLIDE OR I WILL COME TO AMERICA AND FUCKING LIGHT A FIRE UNDER YOUR ASS
11:18 Flezlin: OOP
11:18 Flezlin: pls
11:18 Mir: such a beautiful moment in the song then
11:18 Flezlin: wait how od i do thta idk hitsounds fml
11:18 Mir: ERRERERERRRRERERRRERERRRERR
11:19 Flezlin: LOL
11:19 Mir: 03:17:248 - give this timing point a custom thing
11:19 Mir: get a silent 44 byte file and name it ____sliderslide
11:19 Mir: with a number at the end
11:19 Mir: and give that number to the timing point and it should silence it
11:19 Flezlin: custom sampleset?
11:19 Flezlin: ooooh
11:19 Mir: yeah
11:19 Flezlin: ok
11:19 Flezlin: thx
11:20 Flezlin: and uhh
11:20 Flezlin: part after that
11:20 Flezlin: is remaining 10%
11:20 Flezlin: that i need to adjust
11:20 Mir: ah okay
11:20 Flezlin: the slow part before last kiai i mean
11:20 Mir: but you did do the kiai
11:20 Mir: right
11:21 Flezlin: yea
11:21 Flezlin: that and everything after
11:22 Mir: 04:19:988 (1) - might wanna lower spacing on this
11:22 Mir: not as strong as the rest of the jumps, no hitsound on it either
11:22 Mir: 04:18:834 (1,1) - could stack it with these
11:22 Flezlin: ok yea
11:23 Mir: 04:22:295 (6) - NC?
11:23 Mir: downbeat here
11:23 Flezlin: aaa that kinda ruins some of my pattern but yea spacing should be lower
11:23 Flezlin: oh alright
11:23 Flezlin: i wasn't sure lol
11:24 Mir: 04:29:219 (6) - here too
11:24 Mir: most of your combos in the map are sub-7 
11:24 Flezlin: alright
11:24 Mir: so when they get higher than 7 it's like "what happened to the ncs"
11:24 Flezlin: llo
11:25 Mir: 04:42:199 (1) - if you play with the length of the sliderhead you can probably complete this flower
11:26 Flezlin: uhh im not sure about the rankability if i finish it
11:26 Flezlin: so i left sliderend clear
11:26 Mir: hmm
11:26 Flezlin: i mean, it doesnt look toooo bad.........  ..  .right .. .. ?
11:26 Mir: well i'll tell you some reasons i think it's rankable
11:27 Mir: 1. the start is pretty clear, you can't really misread it
11:27 Mir: 2. it's a flower that snakes out ccw
11:27 Mir: 3. the slider is slow enough that the ticks sort of spawn in as it plays so they "show the way"
11:27 Mir: yeah that's it
11:27 Flezlin: oh shit the ticks
11:27 Mir: pretty sure it's fine
11:27 Flezlin: yea i hope it is
11:28 Mir: so if you wanna you can finish it xd
11:28 Flezlin: at least it'll still be better than justability slider
11:28 Flezlin: xd
11:28 Mir: 04:54:315 (1,2,3) - nazi but spacing here?
11:29 Flezlin: that was intentional decrease
11:29 Mir: ah okay
11:29 Mir: 04:55:180 (1) - this threw me off
11:29 Flezlin: yea lol idk i thought it fit
11:29 Mir: if you stacked this underneath it it would be more clear that it's supposed to decrease
11:29 Flezlin: uhh
11:29 Flezlin: yea
11:29 Mir: that plus personally just stopping movement completely would work here since the song doesn't have as much emphasis on the 1
11:30 Flezlin: but its also a stronger sound i think . . ?
11:30 Mir: it's not *that* much stronger
11:30 Flezlin: uhh
11:30 Flezlin: ok
11:30 Mir: it's.. slightly stronger
11:30 Flezlin: yea ur right
11:30 Flezlin: idk
11:30 Flezlin: maybe ill ask more ppl
11:30 Mir: sounds gudo
11:30 Flezlin: i wanna stack it under with decreasing spacing
11:30 Flezlin: but idk lol
11:31 Flezlin: anyways
11:31 Mir: yeah just ask for more opinions
11:31 Flezlin: so what did you think of the map overall?
11:31 Mir: it's hard
11:31 Mir: hmm some aesthetic choices kinda tilt me
11:31 Flezlin: aaa shit like what?
11:31 Mir: some rhythmic stuff in the beginning too
11:31 Mir: well lets start with rhythm cuz it's probably easiest to explain for me
11:31 Flezlin: rhythmic stuff?
11:31 Flezlin: ok
11:32 Mir: 00:04:469 (5) - this starts on the background piano but ends on the piano that 00:03:027 (1,2,3,4) - was following
11:32 Mir: so maybe make its end clickable rather than the head
11:32 Flezlin: oh
11:33 Flezlin: i just reaaally wanted to avoid 1/2s lOL
11:33 Flezlin: but yea
11:33 Mir: 00:03:027 (1) - could remove this too actually cuz it starts on a background piano
11:33 Flezlin: ill fix beginning
11:33 Mir: o nvm
11:33 Mir: un-nc it instead
11:33 Flezlin: o
11:33 Flezlin: ok
11:33 Mir: that way if you nc 00:03:316 (1) - it makes more sense cuz you switch from background piano to the main one
11:34 Mir: 00:03:316 (2) - for you pre-nc
11:34 Mir: 00:06:200 (2,3,4) - isn't 3 a lot stronger than 4 here
11:35 Flezlin: oh i had pitch in mind
11:35 Mir: ah
11:35 Mir: you can still do pitch
11:35 Mir: just adjust the spacing
11:35 Flezlin: oko
11:36 Mir: 00:13:844 - damn it why did the song have to start here lol
11:36 Flezlin: lol
11:37 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - this is the biggest tilt-factor of aesthetics tbh
11:37 Flezlin: shud i add triple ? or kickslider
11:37 Mir: up to you, it works empty
11:37 Flezlin: ok
11:37 Flezlin: wait
11:37 Flezlin: oh
11:37 Flezlin: u dont like that slider shape?
11:37 Flezlin: qq
11:37 Mir: i don't not like it
11:37 Mir: i just feel it doesn't fit the rest of the shapes you use
11:37 Flezlin: o
11:37 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - it's too similar to this
11:37 Flezlin: ehhh
11:38 Mir: but they're like
11:38 Mir: ever so slightly different
11:38 Mir: cuz the red point is further away
11:38 Flezlin: i mean its just like a toned down ver
11:38 Flezlin: not as sharp
11:38 Mir: yeah but the sounds are the same that you put em on so
11:38 Flezlin: i mean imo
11:38 Flezlin: 00:26:107 (1) -
11:38 Flezlin: this
11:38 Flezlin: hold on
11:39 Flezlin: zzzzzzaaaaaaaaa
11:39 Flezlin: sound
11:39 Flezlin: would be sharper than
11:39 Flezlin: 00:24:376 (1) -
11:39 Flezlin: muuuuuuuu
11:39 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - waa
11:39 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - zaaaaa
11:39 Mir: or saaa idk
11:40 Mir: almost the same sound if you disregard the letter it starts on
11:40 Flezlin: idk zzz sounds like a harser sound to me
11:40 Flezlin: well
11:40 Mir: hmm
11:40 Flezlin: im probably inconsistent wit this anyway lOL
11:40 Flezlin: so i mean
11:40 Flezlin: idk what shape i'd change to tho
11:41 Mir: personally i would do http://i.imgur.com/jsYEOdZ.png
11:41 Mir: idk why i just would
11:41 Flezlin: im not rly a fan of that shape tbh x_x
11:41 Mir: well sure in the end it's all subjective
11:41 Mir: if you decide to change it you can do so
11:42 Mir: but after hearing the reasoning it makes more sense as to why
11:42 Flezlin: ok lol
11:42 Flezlin: i mean my reasoning is probably bs and gonna be stomped on by mods and bns
11:42 Flezlin: :joy: :gun:
11:42 Mir: i don't.. quite agree with it but.. it makes sense
11:42 Mir: it's not something that would prevent a bubble or anything im sure
11:43 Flezlin: yea im dumb so
11:43 Mir: because it's subjective xd
11:43 Flezlin: yea true
11:43 Mir: but something that may prevent one is
11:43 Mir: some cases where piano spacing is the same if not higher than drum spacing
11:43 Flezlin: uh oh
11:43 Flezlin: ohhh fuck
11:43 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - perhaps take a look here
11:44 Mir: 00:32:309 (2,3,4,5,6) - i like this
11:44 Mir: 00:31:876 (1,2) - but these
11:44 Mir: piano only with 00:31:588 (1,2) - or even these
11:44 Flezlin: hmm
11:45 Flezlin: urk i really just wanna solely follow piano with these
11:45 Flezlin: is th at not ok?
11:45 Mir: it's not not okay but
11:45 Mir: having them the same spacing as your drum emphasis kills differentiation imo
11:45 Flezlin: no they all have piano tho
11:45 Flezlin: but yea ik what you'res saying
11:45 Mir: they all have piano yes
11:45 Mir: but they don't all have drums
11:46 Mir: but they're spaced as if they do all have drums
11:46 Mir: if that makes sense
11:46 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2) - sets up your drum spacing
11:46 Flezlin: yea
11:46 Mir: 00:31:588 (1,2) - then when has no drum and it's the same if not slightly higher it's like oh
11:47 Mir: it's kind of an easy fix if you just play around with your spacing there
11:47 Flezlin: i want to di e
11:47 Mir: 00:33:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this looks awesome tho
11:48 Flezlin: oh thanks
11:48 Mir: 00:48:607 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - okay 
11:48 Mir: 00:50:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - where emphasis
11:48 Mir: where's the contrast :(
11:48 Mir: all of those boom booms and the spacing is kinda same-ish
11:49 Mir: 00:51:203 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - here it gets better tho
11:49 Flezlin: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
11:50 Mir: 01:00:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - cute even if subtle <3
11:50 Flezlin: o k   end my life tbh
11:50 Flezlin: haha thanks
11:51 Mir: 01:02:453 - this section is pretty much spot on
11:51 Mir: very similar to how i would map it so bonus points for that xd
11:51 Flezlin: xd thanks
11:51 Flezlin: i spent like
11:51 Flezlin: an hour
11:51 Flezlin: deciding only the rhythm
11:51 Flezlin: for t his
11:51 Flezlin: like wtf i wanted to die
11:52 Flezlin: xd
11:52 Mir: it paid off really
11:52 Flezlin: aww thanks
11:52 Mir: 01:54:376 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - :thinking:
11:52 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :ythinkin:
11:53 Mir: 00:32:165 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i liked this more tbh :
11:53 Mir: :x
11:53 Flezlin: hmm
11:53 Flezlin: i didnt want to use the same pattern
11:53 Mir: it's very similar but
11:54 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4) - is a V-shape
11:54 Mir: 01:55:818 (5,6) - and this doesn't stack on 3
11:55 Mir: 02:00:434 (1,2) - sliiiiiiiiightly tilted
11:55 Mir: looks like you ran out of space LOL
11:55 Flezlin: LOL
11:55 Flezlin: omf
11:55 Flezlin: i did
11:56 Mir: 02:02:741 (1,1) - you already have spacing like this for 1/4 so
11:56 Flezlin: 02:02:741 (1,1) -  ok wtf this flow makes me wanna die
11:56 Flezlin: ?
11:56 Mir: something like this http://i.imgur.com/mmfUuTx.jpg may work
11:56 Flezlin: uhh
11:57 Flezlin: wait i dont really see
11:57 Flezlin: ohh
11:57 Flezlin: nvm
11:57 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/R0qBGp2.jpg
11:57 Mir: ideally 02:00:001 (2) - mirroring this might work
11:57 Mir: also lol 2:00:00*1*
11:57 Flezlin: tbh i wanted to do something like 01:46:588 (1,2) -
11:57 Mir: special snowflake slider right there
11:57 Flezlin: lol
11:57 Mir: ah i see
11:58 Mir: hmm well
11:58 Mir: it's kinda similar
11:58 Mir: ... kinda
11:58 Flezlin: pls
11:58 Mir: you can keep it but it shall forever tilt me
11:58 Flezlin: no ill fix it LOL
11:59 Flezlin: this tilts me too
11:59 Mir: oh okay LOL
11:59 Flezlin: also i wasn't expecting you to actually like go through and mod it x_x
11:59 Mir: o
11:59 Flezlin: i didnt want to take up your time so i only was looking for quick opinion lol
11:59 Mir: it's fine i guess
11:59 Mir: i just woke up so i don't feel like studying
11:59 Flezlin: yea but now its 6 am for me LOL
11:59 Mir: o 
12:00 Mir: i can do the rest as forum post if you want
12:00 Flezlin: so uhhh
12:00 Flezlin: u can post chatlogs i guess

the rest:

[Painful Longing]
- 02:15:145 - is it just me or does this entire part feel extremely underwhelming.. 02:16:011 (1,2,3) - spacing is kinda pathetic eek they're supposed to be increasing in spacing but ill add more emphasis
- 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - we talked mir ur killing my patterns help
- 02:35:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - mmm idk, piano is quite animated here but it's a stacked stream (basically) might wanna space it a bit towards the end? hmm this was supposed to be more of a transition into the next section with guitar stuff
- 02:36:347 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - too much spacing here, not many strong sounds yea ur right
- 02:41:972 - you mentioned mhm
- 02:55:818 (1) - 02:48:895 (4) - choose NC oops
- 02:58:703 (1) - too much spacing perhaps like i mentioned before, 02:59:857 (1) - also seems like a bit much despite having piano on it, a lot of these have drums on it so the drums will naturally be what people expect spacing on i think 02:59:857 (1) - should be alright but ill do something about 02:58:703 (1) - i guess
- 03:17:248 (1) - sliderslide mute please as we said yep
- 03:22:156 (1) - slow slider could work to really capture that long vocal into the next section oo yea that'd be nice
- 03:27:409 (1) - reverse doesn't really fit imo when you used 03:25:573 (1,2,3) - and the reverse head and tail are two seperate phrase parts, happens at 03:42:103 (3) - maybe elsewhere uhh yea this section is kinda old so im not too sure what was happening here either, ill probably be adjusting this entire section
- 03:31:083 (3) - fix ncs // 03:42:103 (3) - 03:45:777 (3) - ok why is this section so bad
- 04:01:526 (1,2,1,2,3) - 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmmmmm rhythm? i wanted to do the same thing but there's like literally no sound at 04:02:247 - , no piano, no drums,
- 04:07:295 (1,2) - works as a triple cuz all your drums are strong here idk if i wanna do triple here, i kinda like this tbh
- 04:14:507 - some of the jumps here seem really overdone but.. idk that might be personal. for example: 04:15:661 (5,6,7) - (basically your non-jump sections don't contrast very well cuz they're pretty high spacing already) yea there's still a lot of other spacing things throughout the map that ill be going through and fixing
- 04:37:151 (2,2) - spacing on these is pathetic tbh idk if i rly wanna space these out that much aaa
- 04:38:160 (5,6,7,8,1) - could use differentiation, maybe space these out cuz snares on them well i mean the song is mostly cooling down here and i only really had the guitar in mind but i might consider doing a kickslider into triple or something..
- 04:42:199 (1) - we talked (silence slide too here?) yep

Good luck Flezzles! Keep fighting~

thanks for the mod!

Hello!

From my modding queue:

Painful Longing

GL with rank!

Shogud wrote:

Hello!

From my modding queue:

Painful Longing

Hp is really low, you can miss a whole stream and still pass (which is what i did lol) yea that's an intentional gimmick i have lol

00:00:143 (1,2,3) - Spacing on these is inconsistent oops this entire section is a mess tbh
00:07:066 (1,2,3) - ^ g
00:15:434 (1) - These motherfuckers i'm pretty sure i lost like 10% on my testplay from missed sliderends, it's almost impossible to tell them apart. I'd make them into 1/2 beat sliders or increase the SV so you can tell them apart from the actual 1/2 sliders each of these is nc'd and it happens pretty consistently so hopefully the player should realize that these are a reoccuring thing also the actual 1/2 sliders are still shorter http://i.imgur.com/FMngc1H.png
00:18:895 (1) - You should make this parallel with 00:19:184 (1), it would look cleaner oh yea it should've been i guess i accidentally messed it up
00:22:645 (1) - this slider is kinda ugly, and you have such nice slider art later, maybe change it to something like this? hmm im not really a fan of that shape but ill see if i can think of anything better to change to
00:32:741 (5,6) - The spacing here decreases a little too quickly and makes it awkward to play personally i like this and the piano is also really faint on 00:32:886 (6) - , hence the smaller jump
02:37:645 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - If youre following the drums here shouldnt it go 4 spaced 4 normal 4 spaced instead of the 8 spaced and 4 normal you have now? hmm i think im following the guitar more in this section
02:44:532 (1) - I think it'd be better to face this the same way as the rest of the singles, even though i know it's meant to overlap with 02:46:299 (1), they're just so far apart that it doesnt even matter uhh yea maybe
02:49:472 (1) - See stuff like this is fine since the guitar is actually doing something cool, but the vocals from before arent really doing anything different ehhhh come on its just a gimmick for emphasis on the stronger songs
03:24:654 (1,2) - They should be mirrored anglesoops yea
03:41:185 (1,2) - Maybe fully overlap the sliderends? Might look better honestly im probably going to remap this section since its dumb rn

I was gonna make a joke about this being painfully long but it's actually really well made and fun to play (Except those goddamn 3/4 sliders plz fix) lmao

GL with rank!

thanks for the mod!

Mod from my queue.

Painful Longing

00:29:568 (1) - don't curve it at the end, a slider like this one 00:26:107 (1) - would be better imo
00:39:953 (1) - see? you used it over there
00:44:280 (1,1,1) - use just one NC, the other two are unnecessary
00:46:011 (1,2,3) - *applies to all of the patterns used with the same sound: moving the sliders 1/4 of the beat earlier makes it sound and flow much smoother, try it out!
00:58:991 (1) - I'm not sure if it's really such an important sound to have a jump this big 00:58:847 (2,1) - , I'd decrease the spacing there
01:02:453 - hey, those vocals are pretty neat
01:45:434 (1) - this SV is 0.10x bigger than the previous one with ideally the same sound 01:43:703 (1) - , why is that?
02:00:434 (1) - again, not a fan of this slider shape
02:06:491 (1) - ^
02:08:222 - hey, that piano plays pretty neat
02:11:251 (1) - why isn't this just a 1/2 slider lol
02:15:145 - hey, that orgasmic sound is pretty orgasmic
02:22:934 - and 02:24:665 - are two different ideas used for identical song parts, keep them more consistent (I'd personally use the first concept, it plays gorgeously)
02:26:107 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - NCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNC why
02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
02:32:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - why no NC's there lol
02:36:203 - okay that's clearly too deep to be "just a sigh"
02:42:838 (1) - again, I'd nerf the spacing a little
02:47:165 - and 02:48:895 - are the same, why do you vary patterns there lol
02:54:088 - and 02:55:818 - ^
03:16:131 - what's the point of this green line?
03:17:248 - hey, that cute flower is pretty cute
03:29:246 (1) - remove NC
03:43:481 (1) - ^
03:49:988 - hey, that stunning vocal part is pretty stunning
03:59:795 (1,1,1) - unnecessary NC's again
04:13:642 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - and again (compare this to 03:01:155 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - )
04:29:795 (1) - either stack or move further away, looks like you couldn't make a decision there
04:33:834 (1,1) - not sure if that's necessary, the rhythm doesn't change at all and you could just use these patterns instead 04:32:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
04:52:872 (1) - move it further away (04:52:872 (1,3) - this for comparison)
05:00:372 - I just realised it's exactly 5 mins long, why don't you just go for approval ROFL

That's all from me, good map.

gl

[Nemesis] wrote:

Mod from my queue.

Painful Longing

00:29:568 (1) - don't curve it at the end, a slider like this one 00:26:107 (1) - would be better imo subjective lol?
00:39:953 (1) - see? you used it over there ya well i can use both alright
00:44:280 (1,1,1) - use just one NC, the other two are unnecessary its used to show slider velocity change
00:46:011 (1,2,3) - *applies to all of the patterns used with the same sound: moving the sliders 1/4 of the beat earlier makes it sound and flow much smoother, try it out! that messes up the rhythm a lot lol, first slider starts on drum sound and continues as 1/2 to keep rhythm playable
00:58:991 (1) - I'm not sure if it's really such an important sound to have a jump this big 00:58:847 (2,1) - , I'd decrease the spacing there well it marks the end of the section so im pretty sure it'd be fine even if this was the biggest jump,
01:02:453 - hey, those vocals are pretty neat agre
01:45:434 (1) - this SV is 0.10x bigger than the previous one with ideally the same sound 01:43:703 (1) - , why is that? o yea changed
02:00:434 (1) - again, not a fan of this slider shape ehh i mean i like it
02:06:491 (1) - ^ .
02:08:222 - hey, that piano plays pretty neat lol thx
02:11:251 (1) - why isn't this just a 1/2 slider lol because its not a 1/2 sound lol? the piano ends early here
02:15:145 - hey, that orgasmic sound is pretty orgasmic g
02:22:934 - and 02:24:665 - are two different ideas used for identical song parts, keep them more consistent (I'd personally use the first concept, it plays gorgeously) second occurrence has 1/4 drums, but the first time there's just a lot of emphasis where the kicksliders are
02:26:107 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - NCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNC why to visibly show 1/3 rhythm
02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ 1/3 rhythm
02:32:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - why no NC's there lol because its not 1/3 lol
02:36:203 - okay that's clearly too deep to be "just a sigh" uhh sorry im not really sure what you mean by this lol
02:42:838 (1) - again, I'd nerf the spacing a little hmm maybe rn its stacked under 02:41:251 (1) -
02:47:165 - and 02:48:895 - are the same, why do you vary patterns there lol 02:47:165 - has continuous 1/4 drums while 02:48:895 - is solely guitar
02:54:088 - and 02:55:818 - ^ same as above
03:16:131 - what's the point of this green line? oops removed
03:17:248 - hey, that cute flower is pretty cute lol thanks
03:29:246 (1) - remove NC im actually gonna redo this section xd
03:43:481 (1) - ^ yea this section is bad
03:49:988 - hey, that stunning vocal part is pretty stunning lol yea hanatan is amazing
03:59:795 (1,1,1) - unnecessary NC's again used consistently to show sv changes xd
04:13:642 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - and again (compare this to 03:01:155 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - )
04:29:795 (1) - either stack or move further away, looks like you couldn't make a decision there oops must've accidentally moved it
04:33:834 (1,1) - not sure if that's necessary, the rhythm doesn't change at all and you could just use these patterns instead 04:32:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - following the 1/3 piano here
04:52:872 (1) - move it further away (04:52:872 (1,3) - this for comparison) uhh im not really sure if it matters since there's such a long gap in rhythm, so i think it just looks better stacked under the slider tail
05:00:372 - I just realised it's exactly 5 mins long, why don't you just go for approval ROFL i am going for approval lol

That's all from me, good map.

gl

thanks for the mod!

Birthday mod \:D/

[Painful Longing]
00:12:835 (1,2) - Plz ctrl+G, it would emphasize the melody better since it goes from higher sound tone to lower ( 00:11:969 (1,2) - ) and then from the same lower tone to higher.

00:23:511 (1) - Why nc, sometimes u put an nc, sometimes u don't...
00:37:357 (1) - ^

01:36:491 (1) - Slider end not snapped
01:36:780 (1) - ^

01:46:588 (1) - Why nc here again
02:00:434 (1) - ^

02:11:251 (1) - Imo this slider should end on the white tick 02:11:395 - here

03:03:318 (1,2) - Random followpoint because of inconsistent spacing

03:36:593 (1) - This slider also should be a bit longer and end on blue tick 03:36:593 (1) - here. Yeah, there was one short slider like that, following the piano in before but as you probably know piano wasn't digitally generated but just live recorded (what also shows that u had to start slider on 1/8 yellow tick 02:44:532 (1) - here) so it doesn't mean they gotta have the same duration. It's more about finding the closest tick to the piano sound to snap the slider to.

03:49:411 (6) - Maybe new combo here

03:52:872 (1) - And again xd why nc
04:06:719 (1) - ^

That's all
gl with ranking it finally

OtakuFlame wrote:

Birthday mod \:D/

[Painful Longing]
00:12:835 (1,2) - Plz ctrl+G, it would emphasize the melody better since it goes from higher sound tone to lower ( 00:11:969 (1,2) - ) and then from the same lower tone to higher.

00:23:511 (1) - Why nc, sometimes u put an nc, sometimes u don't... yea its used for slider velocity changes
00:37:357 (1) - ^ ^

01:36:491 (1) - Slider end not snapped wtf where did my green lines go (they were supposed to be 0.75x, 0.65x, 0.55x), fixed
01:36:780 (1) - ^

01:46:588 (1) - Why nc here again same as above
02:00:434 (1) - ^

02:11:251 (1) - Imo this slider should end on the white tick 02:11:395 - here no its actually a 1/3 slider and ends before the white tick due to the piano sound on the tail

03:03:318 (1,2) - Random followpoint because of inconsistent spacing fixed, i just used ctrl f so i didnt really check over that lol

03:36:593 (1) - This slider also should be a bit longer and end on blue tick 03:36:593 (1) - here. Yeah, there was one short slider like that, following the piano in before but as you probably know piano wasn't digitally generated but just live recorded (what also shows that u had to start slider on 1/8 yellow tick 02:44:532 (1) - here) so it doesn't mean they gotta have the same duration. It's more about finding the closest tick to the piano sound to snap the slider to. i mean thats what im doing lol, this slider ends on the piano which is at the yellow tick

03:49:411 (6) - Maybe new combo here i dont think its really necessary since its all part of the drum buildup but ill check

03:52:872 (1) - And again xd why nc explained already
04:06:719 (1) - ^

That's all
gl with ranking it finally

thanks for the mod lol

It is time.

after a lot of rechecks, timing changes, sloppy guitar playing, and updating, i think this map is finally ready to get on track to ranked

oh yeah we irc'd and stuff