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Newbie Game 14: Flavorless Mafia [Game Over]
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but yeah, FMPoV if you're town, then Frostings scum, and Jess is scum in either scenario.
Everyone else is just way too townie.
Everyone else is just way too townie.
Idk Sakura I am still skeptical of you because you won that one game 2 years ago. /s
huhbeeboy123 wrote:
Navi can you explain your scum read on me or do you not actually have any plans to push me?
I'm still -somewhat- neutral on you. I just stated that I don't like you at all.
By the way, I don't like you for sheeping. It was annoying.
But sheeping is like the best thing ever.Navizel wrote:
By the way, I don't like you for sheeping. It was annoying.
How else am i going to get AI reactions from ppl if i dont vote together with others? XD
Especially when I am sheeping a top town read who can read people better then I can.
xd
Vote her to summonTsukasa wrote:
Where the hell is Jess?
this game is a little hard for me 
I've actually never not had a terrible scum read that I followed for the rest of the day, so I don't really know what to do here
I have a lingering suspicion of Sakura, but I don't want to vote her yet because of personal reasons
mb seems relatively town in that he's getting annoyed easily (I think he'd be more enthusiastic as scum
)
Haven't been paying much attention to others, though I'm looking out for Navi because he seemed unenthusiastic about joining and I know he doesn't like playing scum :^)
Also I feel like ms1 didn't contribute much to town while he was here
I've actually never not had a terrible scum read that I followed for the rest of the day, so I don't really know what to do here
I have a lingering suspicion of Sakura, but I don't want to vote her yet because of personal reasons
mb seems relatively town in that he's getting annoyed easily (I think he'd be more enthusiastic as scum
) Haven't been paying much attention to others, though I'm looking out for Navi because he seemed unenthusiastic about joining and I know he doesn't like playing scum :^)
Also I feel like ms1 didn't contribute much to town while he was here
also reading through ms1's ISO and read this for the first time:
Holy shit LOL pure goldmetal sonic1 wrote:
context: i caught him as a 1-shot unlynchable scum in sakura's game (here, obviously) that ended less than a week ago, but because of the fact that he was unlynchable once, it created a strong fakeclaim for him to slip past me and win the game. the fact of the matter was that I caught him the first time based on pure reads, but he did win.
It may also be a byproduct of him getting apathetic because of getting PoE'd out.
I'm more confident in a Navi/Jess scumteam now.
I'm more confident in a Navi/Jess scumteam now.
Hi Jess. I need two names from you: one who you think is town, and one who you think is scum
Don't be shy
Don't be shy
reallyFrostings wrote:
though I'm looking out for Navi because he seemed unenthusiastic about joining and I know he doesn't like playing scum :^)
when was I last scum though I don't remember.p sure it depends if I'm in the mood to play mafia at all
okFrostings wrote:
Hi Jess. I need two names from you: one who you think is town, and one who you think is scum
Don't be shy
Town:You,(maybe)MB,zaph
sucm:GIF
reasons?-[Jess]- wrote:
okFrostings wrote:
Hi Jess. I need two names from you: one who you think is town, and one who you think is scum
Don't be shy
Town:You,(maybe)MB,zaph
sucm:GIF
Do you really just plan on sheeping all gamebeeboy123 wrote:
Especially when I am sheeping a top town read who can read people better then I can.
At least from what I can see Sakura has reads of her own
Frosty is always town according to his luckNavizel wrote:
reasons?
MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
Zaph,idk gut read
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum do
What about Sakura's PoE then? and beeboy cause he's just following GIF?-[Jess]- wrote:
Frosty is always town according to his luckNavizel wrote:
reasons?
MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
Zaph,idk gut read
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum do
If you're townreading Frostings because he's always town, should we also scumread you because you're always scum?
Unvote btw
-[Jess]- wrote:
[MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum doRandom?
Zaphkael
And then there's his posting in general that I really shouldn't need to explain to y'all.
Remember when I first said I had my first townread?
This dude.
This is the part where I started to townread him. The context doesn't tell us shit but I'm the guy who usually looks for tones and stuff and I like his attitude coming from this post. Granted I haven't played with the dude yet but hey mafia is not a game where you need an experience with a guy to read him.Zaphkael wrote:
Why GIF tho plsbeeboy123 wrote:
Ok fine as long as you vote GIF eventually.
The one time i can play with him
Ok that sounded weird
BUT YOU GET MY POINT
leave him until my scumradar catches him
Until then ill protect him
And lock him up in my basement
And OH NO I AINT BE GETTIN SHOT
Cuz i know where you'll go
(I hope I now successfully soft fakeclaimed all possible PR's)
Minor stuff, but this shows that he is thinking of forming reads, which is townish.Zaphkael wrote:
So you are basically metal sonic on mafiascum. That makes it easier to get meta.metal sonic1 wrote:
A long, long, time ago, in a planet far far away, thou was on the blue team of a foul xenobladian cult
Then I got my first infraction ever and force replaced at lylo and gimped and didn't get to wear two scummies that year
But I can't remember anything more relevant
Sudden paranoia of someone townreading him quicker than his pace. Even though I don't agree with his decision he came out decently town with the way of showing his here. Attempted reaction test is a bonus.Zaphkael wrote:
Eh?
Sakura townread me way too fast, especially after last game
I said 'ill ignore that though' AND SHE JUST WENT WITH THAT
i have been scum with her in a marathon and i know that meta shouldnt be used here
But she gets awkward and tries to avoid stuff
What did she do?
Yes.
And then there's his posting in general that I really shouldn't need to explain to y'all.
Remember when I first said I had my first townread?
This dude.
Sakura
If I have to tl;dr, she's not attempting to 'hide' around me. And that's enough, really.
It's also probably hard to explain why she's town because for some reason she adopted my style of playing a bit so I can, well, kinda see her when she's town, and that's what I rely on reading her which makes explaining why I townread her very difficult without just going "lolmeta trust me on this".
But then, best way to read her is to draw the game out and see if she keeps this up the whole darn game but it's D1, so my read accuracy I'm going to say is 90%.
Oh also, if you keep tell her "omg why do you only say 'X is town???', she's just going to do more. Just saying XD
So why am I not quoting stuff and do the similiar thing above?
Congratulations, you failed the reading check. Please read above for an answer for that question.
If I have to tl;dr, she's not attempting to 'hide' around me. And that's enough, really.
It's also probably hard to explain why she's town because for some reason she adopted my style of playing a bit so I can, well, kinda see her when she's town, and that's what I rely on reading her which makes explaining why I townread her very difficult without just going "lolmeta trust me on this".
But then, best way to read her is to draw the game out and see if she keeps this up the whole darn game but it's D1, so my read accuracy I'm going to say is 90%.
Oh also, if you keep tell her "omg why do you only say 'X is town???', she's just going to do more. Just saying XD
So why am I not quoting stuff and do the similiar thing above?
Congratulations, you failed the reading check. Please read above for an answer for that question.
Tsukasa/Beeboy
Yes, I'm going to group them. I swear I'm not being lazy.
In case of Tsukasa, I've seen him unable to discern trolling before, so him jumping on to my RQS was very normal and to be honest, I baited that myself for an amusement. Anyway, if you ISO him, you can see that he has no problem sharing his read changes without being asked and is very transparent (in fact, too transparent) on his read development. And that's town.
So now beeboy. He is very prone to sheeping. I haven't seen him sheeping as scum (in fact, I've never seen beeboy scum before. Oh wait, yes I have.LAL Hmm. Come to think of it, I don't think he tried to sheep anyone as scum? But then that game was 2 years ago.). Despite his sub-par trolling in this game though, he is capable of attempting to explain his scumread for support, defending his read, and those actions generally comes from a town mindset.
And most importantly, he is sheeping me.
Yes, I'm going to group them. I swear I'm not being lazy.
In case of Tsukasa, I've seen him unable to discern trolling before, so him jumping on to my RQS was very normal and to be honest, I baited that myself for an amusement. Anyway, if you ISO him, you can see that he has no problem sharing his read changes without being asked and is very transparent (in fact, too transparent) on his read development. And that's town.
So now beeboy. He is very prone to sheeping. I haven't seen him sheeping as scum (in fact, I've never seen beeboy scum before. Oh wait, yes I have.
Frostings
TL;DR 
For one, I don't think his "$UP3R PARANOI@" is not faked. With the mindset, FoS on Sakura makes sense.
He also shows uneasyness on suspicious movements (like mass sheeping. Those can look very awkward time to time.)
My only problem is, I can't tell when the dude is joking or not. This is probably my weakest townread and this is where I draw the line between "towns" and "non-towns."
TL;DR
For one, I don't think his "$UP3R PARANOI@" is not faked. With the mindset, FoS on Sakura makes sense.
He also shows uneasyness on suspicious movements (like mass sheeping. Those can look very awkward time to time.)
My only problem is, I can't tell when the dude is joking or not. This is probably my weakest townread and this is where I draw the line between "towns" and "non-towns."
"omg MB is town as shit why are you not townread him"
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
If I have to pick 2 from 3 leftovers, it's Navi/Jess.
At this I'm ready to turn this into a speedgame and lynch Jess, Navi, MB, Frostings in order to win the game. We do get 2 chances of mislynch after all and I doubt it will even reach Frostings.
At this point I'm ready to turn this into a speedgame and quicklynch Jess, Navi, MB, Frostings in order to win the game. We do get 2 chances of mislynch after all and I doubt it will even reach Frostings.*
Guys how hard can it be to scumread me?
I want to be a bit scummy
Because it gives me access to delicious 1v1's
Also im paranoid af for ppl that townread me because it makes me feel like its just abusing my newbness
That said GIF your townread on me is bullshit really, there is nothing in those quotes that makes me town
Jess is lynchbait right now which makes you look bad
Tsukasa is a null read rather than town
Mb ks town imo but w/e
YES I SKIP PEOPLE BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME HERE ASK
like, ive been phoneposting all game, both this game and last game so im lazy af
I want to be a bit scummy
Because it gives me access to delicious 1v1's
Also im paranoid af for ppl that townread me because it makes me feel like its just abusing my newbness
That said GIF your townread on me is bullshit really, there is nothing in those quotes that makes me town
Jess is lynchbait right now which makes you look bad
Tsukasa is a null read rather than town
Mb ks town imo but w/e
YES I SKIP PEOPLE BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME HERE ASK
like, ive been phoneposting all game, both this game and last game so im lazy af
How much more towny can you get srslyZaphkael wrote:
Guys how hard can it be to scumread me?
I want to be a bit scummy
Because it gives me access to delicious 1v1's
Also im paranoid af for ppl that townread me because it makes me feel like its just abusing my newbness
That said GIF your townread on me is bullshit really, there is nothing in those quotes that makes me town
Jess is lynchbait right now which makes you look bad
Tsukasa is a null read rather than town
Mb ks town imo but w/e
YES I SKIP PEOPLE BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME HERE ASK
like, ive been phoneposting all game, both this game and last game so im lazy af
Sorry if that's frustrating you, but i have a feeling you dont realize how towny your posts are.
Which is fine by me.
Which is fine by me.
Well maybe im just good scum
I won last game as solo scum?
I won last game as solo scum?
You shouldn't underestimate my abilities.Zaphkael wrote:
Well maybe im just good scum
I won last game as solo scum?
I find it insulting that you think because you won a scum game i shouldnt be able to read you as town.
I understand if you think im scum because you think i shouldnt be able to townread you, but that's on you after i eventually flip if you do manage to drive a lynch on me.
I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
And arent you the one that said that im confident as town?Zaphkael wrote:
I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
If you waste your life playing mafia for several years
Sometimes things just come to you.
Sometimes things just come to you.
Apparently Zaph thinks that i should be like 90% of the osu! players and get incredibly paranoid of ppl that win scum games.
Just like ppl got paranoid of me after Madoka.
Just like ppl got paranoid of me after Madoka.
Anyway, i guess i'll explain my townread to you in more detail, this is after all a newbie game, and you deserve to know.
I gave you an initial townread, your response was to retaliate against me, despite the fact that i keep getting townread, you keep doubting me.
This is a town reaction, because i wont be easy to mislynch at all, scum you would have just accepted the townread and lynch whoever's town of Navi/Jess (since if you're scum it'd be impossible for them both to be scum).
Your confrontation with me is what has made me townread you, scum is looking for mislynches, not engagements, specially newb scum.
And since you keep brining up Greatest Idea Mafia 3, let's remember something.
You were ALMOST lynched Day 1, this in fact shows that you werent being very town or were fooling anyone and the only reason you won that game is because town bought your claim without question, that's more of a fact of town playing badly, not you playing well, so dont think that because you won that game as scum, you'd be easily fool mafia veterans if you were scum and as such, we should be wary of you.
I gave you an initial townread, your response was to retaliate against me, despite the fact that i keep getting townread, you keep doubting me.
This is a town reaction, because i wont be easy to mislynch at all, scum you would have just accepted the townread and lynch whoever's town of Navi/Jess (since if you're scum it'd be impossible for them both to be scum).
Your confrontation with me is what has made me townread you, scum is looking for mislynches, not engagements, specially newb scum.
And since you keep brining up Greatest Idea Mafia 3, let's remember something.
You were ALMOST lynched Day 1, this in fact shows that you werent being very town or were fooling anyone and the only reason you won that game is because town bought your claim without question, that's more of a fact of town playing badly, not you playing well, so dont think that because you won that game as scum, you'd be easily fool mafia veterans if you were scum and as such, we should be wary of you.
I thought i said you were confident as scum?Sakura wrote:
And arent you the one that said that im confident as town?Zaphkael wrote:
I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
Because in the eleventh hour you were unstable af
And town
But fuck meta
Ok?GuyInFreezer wrote:
If you waste your life playing mafia for several years
Sometimes things just come to you.
Note that the elevth hour was my first game and that im not a veteran like u
So i dont understand what you mean
I dont think anyone progresses much in this game, no matter how much you play it
Ok i went from lynchbait to seemingly obvtown but stil
Zaphkael wrote:
I thought i said you were confident as scum?
Because in the eleventh hour you were unstable af
And town
I think that's the direct opposite of confident.Zaphkael wrote:
i have been scum with her in a marathon and i know that meta shouldnt be used here
But she gets awkward and tries to avoid stuff
What did she do?
Yes.
But since you're wondering me being emotionally unstable and/or confident is largely dependant on the actual game and irrelevant to my alignment, i can be confident as either scum or town, and i can be emotionally unstable as both scum and town, but to know that you'd need a way larger sample size, dont try to meta me if you dont intend to read all my 80+ games to form an accurate read.