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WALKUERE - Ikenai Borderline [OsuMania]

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Aruel
girigiri bubble
Akasha-
GIRI!! GIRI!! S**!!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
pls, no bad stuff, children are watching ;^)
Ayachi-
82d
Surono

SanadaYukimura wrote:

pls, no bad stuff, children are watching ;^)
haha this treu
erlinadewi-
hmmm...
Frim4503
not gonna mod this but i will leave stars here
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Frim4503 wrote:

not gonna mod this but i will leave stars here
Thanks man
Arzenvald

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

GIRI!! GIRI!! S**!!
shoe

7K is <3 tho
Ibrahim
i want to mod this map but it's already bub now so only star what can i give. good luck!
Ayachi-
When
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Ibrahim wrote:

i want to mod this map but it's already bub now so only star what can i give. good luck!
Thanks dude

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

When
idk
Kamikaze
ok qualify check weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I have some issues with OD/HP settings, they are not consistent and kinda ??? spread imo
Here's what I suggest:

4K EZ - OD7/HP7
4/7K NM - OD7,5/HP7,5
4/7K HD - OD8/HP8
4K G - OD8,5/HP8,5 (fine as it is atm)
7K G - OD 8 or 8,2/HP8,5 (since this has some tricky LN patterning lower OD is fine, but not 7 :v)

Metadata is fine according to this QAT post from a while ago with listed sources and stuff

AiMod - Checked all diffs, seems to be fi- what the fuck:

(on 4K G)

[General]
The hitsounds - as in hitnormals are 100% inaudible. The custom samples are at 60% and are all very clearly hearable which is good, but the tiny little hats on hitnormals are not and it's a problem.
Please raise the volume on timing sections to at least 50%, same for the hihat hitsounds - 35% is not enough for those to be heard, this is a really loud mp3 tbh

I don't want to get into too much detail on concepts of those diffs, so I'll only look for possible errors

[4K EZ]

00:12:379 (12379|3) - Delete this note? It makes more sense to just follow the kicks and strong sounds to keep it as simple as possible.
If you do this then move 00:12:565 (12565|1) - to 4th and 00:12:938 (12938|3) - to 3rd for a smoother pattern
01:45:732 (105732|3) - What is this LN for? There should be a LN at 01:46:477 - for the usually mapped sound to keep it consistent
01:51:322 (111322|0,111508|3,111695|0,111881|3,112067|0,112067|1) - 2323[12] instead? To make it diffrent from the first girigiri trill
From 02:03:993 - onwards - Honestly I think that even if there are instruments that are justifying the LNs mapped here, I think that they are too quiet to be noticeable for begginers - who this diff is aimed at - so even LNs for vocal might be a good idea. Vocal mapping, especially in lower diffs is a lot of fun to play and really nothing wrong to do.

[CS' 4K NM]

00:12:006 - I think that structure wise a better idea for this transition would be something like this:

The second note is more powerful, the long LN end plays a role too which makes the current pattern a bit uncomfortable and the first LN goes to pretty much nothing since the instruments kick in at 00:12:379 -
00:59:521 - Extend those LNs to 1/2 length, this is a NM diff, and this looks like something players at this level will have no idea how to time, better to just keep it a simple LN stair even if the sounds are slightly shorter
01:37:720 - I think that there are too many LNs, and the stronger sounds should be the ones emphasized by LNs, so I'm suggesting a pattern like this:

[Sakura's 4K HD]

00:42:192 (42192|0,42379|2) - Those would be better anchored to emphasize the kick coming back after a short pause (so just move second one to 1st col)
01:38:465 (98465|3) - Pretty sure this LN should end 1/2 earlier
01:39:397 (99397|3) - Move this LN to 2nd and/or rearrange the 01:38:465 (98465|3,98838|1,99024|2,99210|0) - LNs and then make the girigiri vocal trill (01:39:397 (99397|2,99583|0,99769|2,99956|0) - ) on the second hand separated from the longer LN. For example:

(selected notes are the girigiri vocals)

If you anchor those notes 01:41:633 (101633|0,101819|0) - for vocal (which is what I assume and it is a neat idea) you should do that for other vocal parts as well, like for example 01:44:614 - make a 3311 pattern for those strong syllables, same for here 01:58:775 -
02:14:614 (134614|0,134987|0) - Delete those notes, keep the doubles for kicks here so there's no minijack transition into the [14] jack (transition screen)
02:28:030 - If you're mapping that background 1/2 instrument then map this note as well on 4th col

I'll do rest of the diffs tomorrow, gotta go to sleep, work at 6am aaaaaaaaaaaaaa save me
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

-Kamikaze- wrote:

ok qualify check weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I have some issues with OD/HP settings, they are not consistent and kinda ??? spread imo
Here's what I suggest:

4K EZ - OD7/HP7
4/7K NM - OD7,5/HP7,5
4/7K HD - OD8/HP8
4K G - OD8,5/HP8,5 (fine as it is atm)
7K G - OD 8 or 8,2/HP8,5 (since this has some tricky LN patterning lower OD is fine, but not 7 :v)
//Yea, fix the HP/OD for all diff

Metadata is fine according to this QAT post from a while ago with listed sources and stuff

AiMod - Checked all diffs, seems to be fi- what the fuck:

(on 4K G)
//GGWP (fix

[General]
The hitsounds - as in hitnormals are 100% inaudible. The custom samples are at 60% and are all very clearly hearable which is good, but the tiny little hats on hitnormals are not and it's a problem.
Please raise the volume on timing sections to at least 50%, same for the hihat hitsounds - 35% is not enough for those to be heard, this is a really loud mp3 tbh
//Okii, raise the overall volume to 50% and delete the "hitnormal" (decide to use the default hitnormal)

I don't want to get into too much detail on concepts of those diffs, so I'll only look for possible errors

[4K EZ]

00:12:379 (12379|3) - Delete this note? It makes more sense to just follow the kicks and strong sounds to keep it as simple as possible.
//Sure, a little "stop" feeling will also be nice
If you do this then move 00:12:565 (12565|1) - to 4th and 00:12:938 (12938|3) - to 3rd for a smoother pattern
//I found that 1,4 will fir the finish sound better
01:45:732 (105732|3) - What is this LN for? There should be a LN at 01:46:477 - for the usually mapped sound to keep it consistent
//For the 1/4 guitar actually. 01:46:477 - And since I didn't add LN for this sound in the previous part so better keep it LN
01:51:322 (111322|0,111508|3,111695|0,111881|3,112067|0,112067|1) - 2323[12] instead? To make it diffrent from the first girigiri trill
//maybe just CTRL+H? To make it mirror (compare with the first one
From 02:03:993 - onwards - Honestly I think that even if there are instruments that are justifying the LNs mapped here, I think that they are too quiet to be noticeable for begginers - who this diff is aimed at - so even LNs for vocal might be a good idea. Vocal mapping, especially in lower diffs is a lot of fun to play and really nothing wrong to do.
//Okay, focus on the catchy vocal now

I'll do rest of the diffs tomorrow, gotta go to sleep, work at 6am aaaaaaaaaaaaaa save me
//@Julie pls save this man
Thanks kami

To all GDer: Pls re-download before you fix kami's mod ;)
_Hikari
作死的点了Don't Open... :o 阔帕。。。
Critical_Star

-Kamikaze- wrote:

ok qualify check weeeeeeeeeeeeeee


[CS' 4K NM]

00:12:006 - I think that structure wise a better idea for this transition would be something like this:

The second note is more powerful, the long LN end plays a role too which makes the current pattern a bit uncomfortable and the first LN goes to pretty much nothing since the instruments kick in at 00:12:379 - okay i changed into normal note for this one
00:59:521 - Extend those LNs to 1/2 length, this is a NM diff, and this looks like something players at this level will have no idea how to time, better to just keep it a simple LN stair even if the sounds are slightly shorter oh chicken state this too, well okay i make all into normal note instead
01:37:720 - I think that there are too many LNs, and the stronger sounds should be the ones emphasized by LNs, so I'm suggesting a pattern like this: i changed some into Normal note here
thanks kami! ;) i also did some self mod too

@SY : CS's > CS' ?
ke yi
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Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Yea, done
Change CS's to CS' as his request
Kamikaze
part 2, no kd

Hitsounds are fine by now - however still, change hihat.wav volume to 50%. You can do so in notepad in .osu by searching for line 35:hihat.wav and replacing every occurence with 50:hihat.wav

[4K G]
what is this diffname lmao


lazy play, miss and bad acc because light tapping lol

00:29:428 - I hear the same sound as the triple is layered to here, if you add it do so on 3rd column and reverse 00:29:149 (29149|3,29335|2) -
00:42:379 (42379|0) - Move to 2nd, feels more appropriate to make at least one note on the same column as 23 chord before due to the kicks after the slight break
01:13:683 - tbh I expected something way more interesting in the chorus, the mostly light 1/2 structure is very underwhelming and kinda boring. Try making more LNs for the variety of instruments in the background, or even the vocal
02:03:247 - What's with the added snare hitsounds on SB layer? (tab) There's no snares on 02:03:527 - and 02:03:900 - , but you could map the other two from sb layer in the chart
02:24:862 - Something like this can be more fun to play (and more interesting than current stair pattern)


02:27:844 (147844|0) - This LN imo should be 1/4, 02:28:403 (148403|3) - on the same column as mentioned Ln to emphasize what sound the LN is for, and the longer LN should end at around 02:32:316 - (basically the LNs for guitar feel way mroe appropriate and neat)

[KK's 7K NM]

00:12:192 - You could add a note at 2nd here, I mean, it's loud enough even for NM
00:12:379 (12379|3) - You can remove this in exchange, or make a 1/2 LN to emphasize that strong instrument (what is it called help me)

rest looks fine

[Bie's 7K HD]

For some reason this diff feels in some places like it's easier than KK's NM (example at 00:00:631 - http://puu.sh/rGMbm/2735d19d58.jpg), sometimes just the same but with denser chords and the laning choices create something I really dislike:


REALLY big chunks of map where there are no notes on one column, we're talking about 7 seconds of absolute nothing mostly on columns 2 and 6.
Also the diff is very heavily layered on columns 1357 compared to 246, not ballanced at all finger wise

While this diff isn't bad per se, I do think that it just doesn't fit in the gap between KK's NM and Emiria's G, it's too close to NM

I got a lower ranked played than me to try out both diffs for me to help me evaluate how far they are apart and here are the results





[Emiria's 7K G]
00:38:217 (38217|3,38279|2) - Move 1 column to the right, there's a pretty uncomfortable anchor here right now


02:28:403 (148403|3) - Move to 6th for symmetrical pattern and also just easier to hit

Oh and also remove all samples from SB layer, they are pretty confusing on lower diff when you play the map and hear 1/4 hitsounds when you just hit 1/2 for example.

Poke me when you all reply to my mods and I'll recheck it
Julie

SanadaYukimura wrote:

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I'll do rest of the diffs tomorrow, gotta go to sleep, work at 6am aaaaaaaaaaaaaa save me
//@Julie pls save this man
Hehehe, more like he's the one saving me everything :^)

GL ON QUALIFICATION SANADA >W<
Ayachi-
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Fixed all, thanks!
biemote

-Kamikaze- wrote:

[Bie's 7K HD]

For some reason this diff feels in some places like it's easier than KK's NM (example at 00:00:631 - http://puu.sh/rGMbm/2735d19d58.jpg), sometimes just the same but with denser chords and the laning choices create something I really dislike:


REALLY big chunks of map where there are no notes on one column, we're talking about 7 seconds of absolute nothing mostly on columns 2 and 6.
Also the diff is very heavily layered on columns 1357 compared to 246, not ballanced at all finger wise

While this diff isn't bad per se, I do think that it just doesn't fit in the gap between KK's NM and Emiria's G, it's too close to NM

I got a lower ranked played than me to try out both diffs for me to help me evaluate how far they are apart and here are the results




oh......thank you for point out this problem....
I've tried to fix them......

cuz this mapset are facing the final BN check,i can't change too much,so....i can only rearrange some pattern to fix that......
Kamikaze

biemote wrote:

cuz this mapset are facing the final BN check,i can't change too much,so....i can only rearrange some pattern to fix that......
I don't think that's the case at all, if there is room for improvement and you think you can improve it then why not :D
Better do that just before the rank than risk getting a DQ later imo
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Update Bie's diff for now
Will call you once everything are settled ;D
[Emiria]

-Kamikaze- wrote:

part 2, no kd

Hitsounds are fine by now - however still, change hihat.wav volume to 50%. You can do so in notepad in .osu by searching for line 35:hihat.wav and replacing every occurence with 50:hihat.wav

[4K G]
what is this diffname lmao


lazy play, miss and bad acc because light tapping lol

00:29:428 - I hear the same sound as the triple is layered to here, if you add it do so on 3rd column and reverse 00:29:149 (29149|3,29335|2) -
00:42:379 (42379|0) - Move to 2nd, feels more appropriate to make at least one note on the same column as 23 chord before due to the kicks after the slight break
01:13:683 - tbh I expected something way more interesting in the chorus, the mostly light 1/2 structure is very underwhelming and kinda boring. Try making more LNs for the variety of instruments in the background, or even the vocal
02:03:247 - What's with the added snare hitsounds on SB layer? (tab) There's no snares on 02:03:527 - and 02:03:900 - , but you could map the other two from sb layer in the chart
02:24:862 - Something like this can be more fun to play (and more interesting than current stair pattern)


02:27:844 (147844|0) - This LN imo should be 1/4, 02:28:403 (148403|3) - on the same column as mentioned Ln to emphasize what sound the LN is for, and the longer LN should end at around 02:32:316 - (basically the LNs for guitar feel way mroe appropriate and neat)

[KK's 7K NM]

00:12:192 - You could add a note at 2nd here, I mean, it's loud enough even for NM
00:12:379 (12379|3) - You can remove this in exchange, or make a 1/2 LN to emphasize that strong instrument (what is it called help me)

rest looks fine

[Bie's 7K HD]

For some reason this diff feels in some places like it's easier than KK's NM (example at 00:00:631 - http://puu.sh/rGMbm/2735d19d58.jpg), sometimes just the same but with denser chords and the laning choices create something I really dislike:


REALLY big chunks of map where there are no notes on one column, we're talking about 7 seconds of absolute nothing mostly on columns 2 and 6.
Also the diff is very heavily layered on columns 1357 compared to 246, not ballanced at all finger wise

While this diff isn't bad per se, I do think that it just doesn't fit in the gap between KK's NM and Emiria's G, it's too close to NM

I got a lower ranked played than me to try out both diffs for me to help me evaluate how far they are apart and here are the results





[Emiria's 7K G]
00:38:217 (38217|3,38279|2) - Move 1 column to the right, there's a pretty uncomfortable anchor here right now


02:28:403 (148403|3) - Move to 6th for symmetrical pattern and also just easier to hit

Oh and also remove all samples from SB layer, they are pretty confusing on lower diff when you play the map and hear 1/4 hitsounds when you just hit 1/2 for example.

Poke me when you all reply to my mods and I'll recheck it
all fixed
Akasha-
fixed
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Thank Kami, fixed all but last mod, I will keep it for instrument flow continuously, or it will break somehow
http://puu.sh/rIyCV/12887da352.jpg

also i did some selfmod
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

-Kamikaze- wrote:

part 2, no kd

Hitsounds are fine by now - however still, change hihat.wav volume to 50%. You can do so in notepad in .osu by searching for line 35:hihat.wav and replacing every occurence with 50:hihat.wav

[4K G]
what is this diffname lmao


lazy play, miss and bad acc because light tapping lol

00:29:428 - I hear the same sound as the triple is layered to here, if you add it do so on 3rd column and reverse 00:29:149 (29149|3,29335|2) -
//yea done
00:42:379 (42379|0) - Move to 2nd, feels more appropriate to make at least one note on the same column as 23 chord before due to the kicks after the slight break
//fixed
01:13:683 - tbh I expected something way more interesting in the chorus, the mostly light 1/2 structure is very underwhelming and kinda boring. Try making more LNs for the variety of instruments in the background, or even the vocal
//should be ok now

02:03:247 - What's with the added snare hitsounds on SB layer? (tab) There's no snares on 02:03:527 - and 02:03:900 - , but you could map the other two from sb layer in the chart
//deleted already

02:24:862 - Something like this can be more fun to play (and more interesting than current stair pattern)

//k

02:27:844 (147844|0) - This LN imo should be 1/4, 02:28:403 (148403|3) - on the same column as mentioned Ln to emphasize what sound the LN is for, and the longer LN should end at around 02:32:316 - (basically the LNs for guitar feel way mroe appropriate and neat)
//oh this, i use this LN for the piano sounds. I think the old timing for those two LN are wrong. you can recheck on this

Oh and also remove all samples from SB layer, they are pretty confusing on lower diff when you play the map and hear 1/4 hitsounds when you just hit 1/2 for example.
//yup got it

Poke me when you all reply to my mods and I'll recheck it
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Yup, all done, include the hitsound
Aruel
girigiri lai lai la
Kamikaze
Alright, got a few streams patterns in 4K G more interesting, and this map should be good to go now
Qualified!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
ok_hand
Ayachi-
Hehe xd
Ovoui
owo

Gratz for qualifying o/
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