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osu!leagues - an alternative ranking system

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arihosu
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Topic Starter
arihosu

osu!leagues

osu!leagues groups osu! players into leagues based on their performance points (PP). This way players can experience a less overwhelming ranking experience. Players can also search through a list of songs for their specific league providing a nice way to farm PP.

Leagues

Unranked (up to 600pp)
Wood (up to 1200pp)
Bronze (up to 2000pp)
Silver (up to 3000pp)
Gold (up to 4000pp)
Platinum (up to 5500pp)
Diamond (up to 7400pp)
Master (up to 9000pp)
Challenger (up to infinity)

Each league shows 50 songs (ordered by PP) based on the top scores from all players of that league. The player with the most PP (i.e rank #1 of the league) won't necessarily have the best scores, so you can have the top score even if your position in the league is rather low.

Please let me know if you think leagues are unbalanced, especially for modes other than standard (taiko, ctb, mania) which usually have a different skill threshold.

Site - dead

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Supreme
137 posts
Joined April 2014
Supreme
Seems quite nice dude, keep it up
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Moved to the right place.
Axon
284 posts
Joined July 2015
Axon
Oooo, sounds exciting.
Jukkii
596 posts
Joined October 2015
Jukkii
Personally just no.
This is based off of the normal ranking system so it doesnt change anything and is just as bad or good as you think the normal ranking system is.
It also just doesnt fit a rhythm game imo
But top 10 scores by leaque sounds interesting but theres offline players so i dunno how thatd work as its meant to work
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

Stefan wrote:

Moved to the right place.
Oh, no, this was definitely not a feature request. Like Jukke pointed out, it doesn't fit as the primary ranking system for this game.
This was just a little project I had for a while because I used to go to the profile of the 1 person above me and try to beat their top scores to farm PP. My site makes it a little more dynamic.

-Jukke- wrote:

But top 10 scores by leaque sounds interesting but theres offline players so i dunno how thatd work as its meant to work
What do you mean by offline people? Top maps are taken from the people in the league, and because you have to voluntarily enter your username, you can assume that they're active users.
Helyana
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Joined February 2016
Helyana
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ItzJJmk2
10 posts
Joined April 2016
ItzJJmk2

Stefan wrote:

Moved to the right place.
This doesn't really look like a feature request, looks more like it should be in "Development"
Arihosu is just pointing out some sick website thing they made featuring a third party osu! ranking system.

Besides that, this is really cool! A little upsetting to see that I'm only bronze 3 though... :o lol
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Endaris
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Joined June 2010
Endaris
Everything below 2000pp in Taiko should be Wood because even the easiest Kantan-diffs already give you 50pp for SS.

Aside from that I agree that this should go back to Development as it is something you developed, not something you request. If it was a request it would get marked as a duplicate anyway.
abraker
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abraker
Dupe t/114299/
And t/165421
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Very funny abraker.
abraker
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Joined July 2014
abraker

Endaris wrote:

Very funny abraker.
Well hey, that's how things are done in this subforum, imarite?
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
No, you don't read only the threadtitle, you also read the OP.
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
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Joined April 2013
Seijiro
Moved
Rurree
1,291 posts
Joined June 2014
Rurree
Major I? I don't know what that is but that's where I'm at.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
Joined August 2011
karterfreak
Neat
My division

I'd personally say 5500pp for major is a little low for taiko though :p
Yuudachi-kun
5,432 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun

Rurree wrote:

Major I? I don't know what that is but that's where I'm at.

Same
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu
Major is a placeholder for leagues of 5500pp+, I should've tried to come up with something for those leagues but I thought people at that level wouldn't find the site useful. Anyway, I'll think of something soon.

Also, I don't play modes other than Standard, if anybody wants to waste time to build a better league structure I could definitely use it.
VeilStar
osu! Alumni
4,773 posts
Joined April 2014
VeilStar
Perhaps exclude inactive players from being put into a league? :p
HappyRocket88
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Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88
WAO!!! THIS IS REALLY COOL! >w<)/

Congratulations!
StephOsu
1,216 posts
Joined February 2015
StephOsu
that top 10 map thing is actually fairly interesting
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

VeilStar wrote:

Perhaps exclude inactive players from being put into a league? :p
It was hilarious seeing rrtyui in wood 3. It should be fixed now.
I also added more error messages for those who ended up in 404.

EDIT: Added new leagues up to 8500 PP.
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2011
Nyquill
I was gonna feature this but...



Did you just call me a scrub??? I feel so offended :(

i'm kidding keep doing what you do
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
Agreed with Tasha. I'm 5593 pp and I'm definitely not as good as him LOL
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

Nyquill wrote:

I was gonna feature this but...



Did you just call me a scrub??? I feel so offended :(

i'm kidding keep doing what you do
They're pretty silly, most don't even make sense lol, but I guess they make the site look bigger.

Raiden wrote:

Agreed with Tasha. I'm 5593 pp and I'm definitely not as good as him LOL
Should not be a problem anymore with the new leagues.

Small update: songs now display mods (if any) and no more song duplicates (resolves to the person who got the most pp)
Yuudachi-kun
5,432 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
Master (5500-7500pp)
Challenger (7500-8500pp)
Major (8500+pp)
I can agree with this


I don't know if this is possible for you, but instead of leagues based around just your pp have them be "DT league" "HR league" and "nomod" league. Most of my top plays will be DT but it would be nice to see the pp values of my HR or nomod plays in another league.
abraker
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8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
Is it possible to split by keys for mania?
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

Khelly wrote:

Master (5500-7500pp)
Challenger (7500-8500pp)
Major (8500+pp)
I can agree with this


I don't know if this is possible for you, but instead of leagues based around just your pp have them be "DT league" "HR league" and "nomod" league. Most of my top plays will be DT but it would be nice to see the pp values of my HR or nomod plays in another league.
What would be the criteria for any mod league? PP you have out of that particular mod only?
If we're doing a single league for each mod then it's definitely possible, it'd be a global league. But doing a whole series (whatever the number) of leagues for a mod would raise a lot of problems, one that comes to mind is that if a mod has a league then a mod combination should also have its own league (because we wouldn't want to mix HRDT with HDDT in a DT league), and we end up with tons of different mod leagues.

Also I feel it'd shift into more of a statistics site rather than the original idea.

abraker wrote:

Is it possible to split by keys for mania?
This is probably not possible because there's no effective way of guessing what type of mania player each user is. Also 7k maps dominate PP and I only save the top 3 highscores of each person, so even if you play 5K but your top 2 scores are 7K, you'd be put into a 7K league. In other words, it'd be very inconsistent.
abraker
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abraker

arihosu wrote:

...
I think you misunderstood. You dont put players into a 7k league or 4k league or whatever, but treat each key as its own gamemode under mania.
TheLukay
122 posts
Joined July 2012
TheLukay
"Being scrub never felt this average"

Stop hurting my feelings qwq
potrcko
2 posts
Joined August 2015
potrcko
This is SO good!
I really like it.
Just the idea of nice pp maps you can get is awesome, but this is now reality.
Thank you very much for this! :)
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

abraker wrote:

arihosu wrote:

...
I think you misunderstood. You dont put players into a 7k league or 4k league or whatever, but treat each key as its own gamemode under mania.
Sorry, I did understand but worded it poorly. There's just no efficient way to do it (osu itself doesn't do it).
potrcko
2 posts
Joined August 2015
potrcko
Can there be a way to see players based on their country?
Yuudachi-kun
5,432 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun

arihosu wrote:

Sorry, I did understand but worded it poorly. There's just no efficient way to do it (osu itself doesn't do it).
Keys=4 maps go into the 4k league
Keys=7 maps go into the 7k league

Just like it keeps track of AR, OD etc?
arihosu
27 posts
Joined August 2014
Topic Starter
arihosu

potrcko wrote:

Can there be a way to see players based on their country?
I will implement this, but not until leagues are highly populated (for example, right now there are only 2 Serbians overall, so if you query for countries most leagues will show up empty).

Khelly wrote:

arihosu wrote:

Sorry, I did understand but worded it poorly. There's just no efficient way to do it (osu itself doesn't do it).
Keys=4 maps go into the 4k league
Keys=7 maps go into the 7k league

Just like it keeps track of AR, OD etc?
That's how I imagined it, but I really can't do it right now. I don't keep track of beatmap properties (in the case of mania keys it is CS). But this is not final, I'll come up with something.
Shiv
157 posts
Joined January 2015
Shiv
whatever i play, im always bronze
StephOsu
1,216 posts
Joined February 2015
StephOsu

arihosu wrote:

That's how I imagined it, but I really can't do it right now. I don't keep track of beatmap properties (in the case of mania keys it is CS). But this is not final, I'll come up with something.
How about taking the pp calculation formula and then recalculate on pp base on cs?
Like ignoring all non-cs4 score for 4k and recalculate the pp
Einzvern
37 posts
Joined May 2014
Einzvern
Interesting......
and then there's each reward for different league every month/year lol.
Kaxospere
5 posts
Joined February 2014
Kaxospere
why isn't it maintained anymore? It was out for like a month only :(
Lyne
40 posts
Joined June 2014
Lyne
I just decided to reopen the service using the source code and the previous database.

The link is here : https://osuleagues.xn2.tech/

Have fun~
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