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What makes your brain play a triple or a stream on hard rock?
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I can only read triples in AR10 by anticipating as well. It's gonna take some time, but all I have to do is get used to AR8.5DT, and work my way up, i.e.:
Purple wrote:
My suggestion would be to play some stream-less maps at AR10.3 (AR9+DT) and then go back to AR10 and see if you improve. The approach rate should "look" slower.
I think you have to get really used to a certain AR to get good at that AR. Coming from a guy who relies on approach circles, when there are none, I rely on music and it works most of the time.
Some people use visual recognition, some people rely on the music, which means both are probably valid playstyles on their own. The difference is, visual recognition in higher AR is reliable but needs to be trained for a longer time, while relying on music is easier but is a shot in the dark and quite unreliable.
Some people use visual recognition, some people rely on the music, which means both are probably valid playstyles on their own. The difference is, visual recognition in higher AR is reliable but needs to be trained for a longer time, while relying on music is easier but is a shot in the dark and quite unreliable.
I read ar9.x by ear, I must really suck at this game tbh.
That just means you cant read ar10 properly.Endaris wrote:
I'm basically expecting a triple before I can visually confirm that there will be a triple. When I don't anticipate 1/4 patterns like that I'm often too late
I can react visually to 1/4 up to ar9.7 but I practiced it quite a bit.
when I first started playing HR. 1/4 streams were my biggest problems because I couldn't see them in time and by the time I noticed them, it was already too late. I anticipated when the streams would show up. (took me a few months)
now though. AR10 has become the new AR9 for me. I can sightread everything fine.
my reading is not perfect though but it's solid and consistent enough to do most 4* maps.
now though. AR10 has become the new AR9 for me. I can sightread everything fine.
my reading is not perfect though but it's solid and consistent enough to do most 4* maps.
Since triple are often mapped on double song, I really can't just hear the music for that.
I struggle to see the difference between a double and a triple.
You'll just have to play more and get used to ar10
You'll just have to play more and get used to ar10
No "Both" option? Though honestly, there are songs where you can't anticipate certain turns and mapping or not mapping a triple/stream at certain parts is pretty subjective at times (just look at different maps for the same song) so you'll always have to rely on visual cues to some extent.
Topic Starter
But which comes first?
It's obvious that you can't play without looking and listening but mentally one of them will have prevalence.
It's obvious that you can't play without looking and listening but mentally one of them will have prevalence.
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Dont worry about HR yet, I no modded up to my rank, with a few good hr scores. Youre just not ready yet. But, if you must know, I went through the same song and dance as you. Just play more high ar and you'll get accustomed to trips
you need to be able to recognise them visually to be good at hr, for example, you should be able to play hr with music set to 0 and with no follow points, so that you are reacting only to the circles, this is how you know your recognition of notes is fast enough
Topic Starter
I'm pretty sure I could predict half of the triples on j-pop songs even without the audio, lol.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Even if music is set to 0% if effects are still on I can predict the rhythm unless the hitsounding is complete ass. Unless you mean master at 0%. Even then you can still predict based on your keyboard clicks etc.II Jelli II wrote:
you need to be able to recognise them visually to be good at hr, for example, you should be able to play hr with music set to 0 and with no follow points, so that you are reacting only to the circles, this is how you know your recognition of notes is fast enough
FWIW professional musicians usually only have a single full rehearsal before performances. With a trained ear it barely takes anything at all to put 2 and 2 together.
Play more AR10 and CS5
I read everything you said and put it to a test.
I picked a skin without follow points, set volume to 0% both music and effects and picked a song I'm not familiar with, picked HR and started testing.
Since I'm usually late when playing AR10 I simply thought that I'm too slow for it and kept practicing.
But something unexpected happened, while I was playing with all the settings I mentioned above I was actually hitting too early most of the time.
Anyone willing to explain that?
I picked a skin without follow points, set volume to 0% both music and effects and picked a song I'm not familiar with, picked HR and started testing.
Since I'm usually late when playing AR10 I simply thought that I'm too slow for it and kept practicing.
But something unexpected happened, while I was playing with all the settings I mentioned above I was actually hitting too early most of the time.
Anyone willing to explain that?
w h a c k a m o l eHK_ wrote:
I read everything you said and put it to a test.
I picked a skin without follow points, set volume to 0% both music and effects and picked a song I'm not familiar with, picked HR and started testing.
Since I'm usually late when playing AR10 I simply thought that I'm too slow for it and kept practicing.
But something unexpected happened, while I was playing with all the settings I mentioned above I was actually hitting too early most of the time.
Anyone willing to explain that?
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w h a c k a m o l e
thanksArthraxium wrote:
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I only play HR on maps that I have can FC Nomod. Or I retry a billion tries. So none of them?
Topic Starter
That also qualifies as anticipation based as you basically memorize the spots with the stacks from nomod so that you are prepared.Quag wrote:
I only play HR on maps that I have can FC Nomod. Or I retry a billion tries. So none of them?
Thanks for the input so far, fairly interesting result.