1. Red Rose (5.94 stars, 292 notes)

[Goku] wrote:

Hello, in my opinion this stream 00:54:142 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - breaks the flow of the map. :3

EDIT: try making it softer to play.

NoaGamer wrote:

02:14:714 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this placement is a lot confusing, the notes are ok, but try making something like you did with 00:52:714 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3)

NoaGamer wrote:

02:13:571 (11) - should end at previous blue tick and 02:14:000 (12) - should start in the previous red tick and end at 02:14:71 blue tick

NoaGamer wrote:

04:50:142 (1,2) - 04:50:714 (1,2) - 04:51:285 (1,2) - 04:51:857 (1,2) - delete, then make the streams less sparse

NoaGamer wrote:

03:37:142 (1,2) - 03:37:714 (1,2) - 03:38:285 (1,2) - 03:38:857 (1,2) - delete, then make the spacing of those streams smaller (distance snaping 0,9 maybe?)

NoaGamer wrote:

02:16:714 (3,4,5,6,7) - should be closer to each other, try using distance spacing of 0,8

avalanche wrote:

hey.

Red Rose

00:02:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - ugh, overlaps, maybe expand those jumps a bit so notes don't interfere with each other?
00:14:428 (5,6) - same
00:19:571 (8,9,10,11,12) - ugly overlapping pattern, experiment with it
00:22:714 (10) - the curve is too extreme and doesn't quite belong here
00:36:428 (2) - it seems to be placed too far away
00:43:285 (10) - overlap with upcoming (2)
00:44:857 (11,12,13,14) - here you have quite a high spacing but 00:45:428 (15,1) those two are really close, that breaks the flow (i did the same mistake in my old maps so i know how unpleasant such things are)
00:48:571 (11,1) - well, the flow is broken and you're back at it again with dem overlaps outta nowhere, try remapping this pattern
00:54:714 (5,1) - ^
01:00:428 (6,7,8) - a big trouble here, try moving 01:01:000 (7,8) higher and a bit to the right
basically idk if it's worth modding further as you do need more mapping knowledge/experience
everything i could point out are overlaps and bad flow turns so you should really reconsider much of your decisions
gl mapping, but this is far far away from being ranked
i also suggest to study famous mappers' maps
you can try to copy someone's style - it's rather helpful

[-Chocola-] wrote:

WTF 2k13 Mapping style!?!?

small mod for the kds

00:00:000 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this part have low vol/ how bout use 0.75 SV on this part
01:20:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - you expect this to be ranked??
04:10:857 (1,2) - blanket
04:24:571 (9,1) - ^
04:21:000 (4,5) - far blanket

overall the HS is great!

Spotty wrote:

Mod from my modding queue !

00:18:857 (4) - You should try to stack this note on this beat 00:18:142 (3) -
00:21:142 (3) - I would delete this slider and replace it with two sliders
00:45:142 (13,14,15) - Why those 3 beats have more distance than previous one? You should try to keep the same distance for each part
01:13:000 (1) - Add a new timing session, with the same BPM, to restart the ticks, because now, everything is moved... Like you should add a red BPM/offset here and it will be good, because the song stopped itself suddenly
01:49:571 (1) - Same here
02:30:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Spacing might be a bit hard here !
02:35:285 (1) - Add another red tick here
03:57:571 (1) - Again same here
05:10:714 (1) - Here again. If you don't understand something about my mod, feel free to ask in-game, I will help you ^^

Overall, it's a good map with a good rhythm, but some placements are very wtf, and sometimes we don't know why you placed it here. You should try to put less note in the middle of the grid, because there is a lot of note in the middle and it seems a lot repetitive. But, the good point is that the hitsounds are very very great ! :3

Hope you like it !

04:14:428 (4,5,6,7) - 4 and 7 are overlapping slightly
00:09:571 (4,5,6) - stack 4 and 6
00:18:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - these jumps are shot in random dierections, maybe fix them
00:19:571 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
00:22:428 (8,9,1) - 8 overlaps 1
00:33:428 (7,8,9,10,1) - stack 7 at the end of slider 1
00:35:857 (1) - lower sv for this, I think it goes a little fast
00:44:571 (9) - nc
00:44:714 (10,11,12,13,14,15) - inconsistant spacing and it looks weird
00:56:857 (9,10,11) - blanket better
01:00:428 (6,7) - overlap
01:01:571 (3,4) - blanket better
01:04:428 (3,4,5) - fix the overlap of the sliders
01:08:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - were you trying to map kneesocks? Make this cleaner, and maybe make the combos 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2,
01:13:000 (1,2,3,4) - sliders overlap
01:16:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this into a pattern
01:18:428 (10,11) - blanket better
01:21:428 (9) - nc
01:24:000 (3,4,5) - fix this overlap
01:26:285 (1,2) - blanket and 01:26:142 (12,1,2) - then put 12 at the end of 2
01:54:142 (1,2,3) - blanket 1 and slider 3
02:17:000 (7,1,2,3) - put note 3 at the end of slider 7
02:36:000 (4,5,6) - fix t he pattern here
02:46:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^
02:47:142 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^^^
02:58:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make this into a pattern
03:15:857 (10,11) - fix this
03:42:714 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - I think you can fix up this

Whirl wrote:

Nice map

04:14:428 (4,5,6,7) - 4 and 7 are overlapping slightly
00:09:571 (4,5,6) - stack 4 and 6
00:18:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - these jumps are shot in random dierections, maybe fix them
00:19:571 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
00:22:428 (8,9,1) - 8 overlaps 1
00:33:428 (7,8,9,10,1) - stack 7 at the end of slider 1
00:35:857 (1) - lower sv for this, I think it goes a little fast 1.25x
00:44:571 (9) - nc
00:44:714 (10,11,12,13,14,15) - inconsistant spacing and it looks weird oh, so that's where the problem was, finally
00:56:857 (9,10,11) - blanket better
01:00:428 (6,7) - overlap
01:01:571 (3,4) - blanket better
01:04:428 (3,4,5) - fix the overlap of the sliders
01:08:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - were you trying to map kneesocks? Make this cleaner, and maybe make the combos 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, I'm not sure whether I made it anymore cleaner or not lol.
01:13:000 (1,2,3,4) - sliders overlap
01:16:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this into a pattern
01:18:428 (10,11) - blanket better
01:21:428 (9) - nc
01:24:000 (3,4,5) - fix this overlap
01:26:285 (1,2) - blanket and 01:26:142 (12,1,2) - then put 12 at the end of 2
01:54:142 (1,2,3) - blanket 1 and slider 3
02:17:000 (7,1,2,3) - put note 3 at the end of slider 7
02:36:000 (4,5,6) - fix t he pattern here
02:46:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^
02:47:142 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^^^
02:58:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make this into a pattern
03:15:857 (10,11) - fix this
03:42:714 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - I think you can fix up this

good map I shoot star. Sorry this is a small mod.

in other words it was really helpful.

Swash wrote:

Random Mod INC

The One Difficulty

The One Difficulty:

First off, any reason the notes are extremely loud? 100% On normal is kind of over-doing it I think. (It's way over doing it) Unless you can barely hear the hitsounds at 90% I wouldn't use 100% ever.

I'd move the main central timing point to offset: 8985 and remove all green before and the one immediately after.
I'd also remove all the notes before it as well. Then place a note where it starts rather than having that random build up spinner. Used an offset of 8999 instead and the spinner was meant to be part of a buildup I had mapped before but I removed it and kinda of just forgot about it
example

00:18:571 (2,4) - Overlap (looks bad to me)

00:10:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Suggest making all of those circles even spacing. They are also not properly aligned.

00:13:270 (4,6) - Maybe you could wrap these? example

00:20:270 (6,7) - Wrap this better?

00:22:699 (9) - This looks a little ugly since the slider is too curved. I wouldn't do this for any reason ever, and suggest just making it wrap instead like this
00:24:127 (1) - ^

00:24:985 (4) - For these I believe it's better to place the dot near the center. See how much better it looks? example

00:37:127 (4) - It goes back and forth too much which makes no sense for this part.
00:37:842 (6) - ^ These back and forth sliders should probably just not exist. It'd be better to hit most of these notes.

00:41:699 (3,6) - Maybe you could wrap these two? It would make it look better.

00:42:842 (9,10) - these collide and look ugly.

01:00:413 (6,7,8) - 6 and 8 collide here, and 7 could have been used for a wrap twice (;

01:00:985 (7,9) - could have also hid the 7 at the end of the tail here.

01:02:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part just doesn't look good. Too much collides and shapes could have been used.

01:26:285 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really look that good. At all.

You should probably use a lot more distant snapping. Spacing seems really inconsistent.

A lot of your sliders don't have the point in the center, which makes it look slightly uglier. I suggest doing this most of the time

I'm going to just list collides that I see, as a lot of the map could be re-done, though I won't ask that of you since that'd require a ton of work. (:
01:54:142 (1,3) - collide
02:05:857 (2,4,5,6,8) - These 2 patterns shouldn't collide. Even if it was the intention...
02:06:571 (7,9,11) - See these collides look a bit bad and un-evenly spaced D:
02:36:857 (8,9,10,1,2) - bad un-even collisions
02:38:714 (9,10,11) - collisions
02:41:714 (3,4) - trust me, this doesn't look good. this looks better

A lot of what I'd say are repeats of errors above. I suggest doing a bit of self polishing

Over-all it's an ok map. It would need a lot of work. Feel free to ask me any questions in game, as I'm online 24/7
I do love this song though, good luck with it!

Also make sure you do ctrl+shift+a to make sure no errors (besides add difficulty or extra difficulty blah blah) show up. (: As I did see one, that would need to be fixed.

1. May i ask why roosterteeth is in the tags?
2. remove your own name from the tags pls
3. the term RWBY has to go from the Source as well, Source gets added when the map is ranked and there is a source for it, or some sort of videogame then go ahead, like em bagugan or some shit (does that exist?)
4. rwby.jpg is 1147x757, it's a bad size for an image sorry, correct size is 1366x768 try to get an image that size will help

1. 8,980, (press timing panel go to bottom highlight up to the second timing point, the green lines, move by -19 before pressing move highlight adjust all bookamarks) - DO THIS LAST

1. 00:11:284 (7) - use some sort of orchestra sound, rather than a clap it doesnt stand out at all, ill remember this set and ill give you a couple of hitsounds when i come back from VACation, since my internet limits me atm
2. 01:12:999 (1) - claps and the whistles here work very well
3. Also limit yourself to using more than 80% volume, it's just too loud

1. 00:08:998 (1) - having a green inheriting point and a timing point with both different samples and volumes is unrankable btw, just to let you know
2. 00:13:284 (4,6) - pls dont make overlaps like these, at least give it some space up until the first approach line comes up on a 1/8, also fix the blanket if you decide to keep it
3. 00:26:713 (9,1) - why not make (9) end at the start of (1), i.e. the slider end of (9) will end on the head of (1) will add a nice droppy part to it, getting the player ready for something more imo, rather than continuing with the same jumps over and over
4. 00:29:570 (11) - make this the NC that's where the new,strong beat it >_>
5. 00:31:856 (9) - ^
6. 00:34:141 (1) - your green point is messed up here its actually in front of the slider, move it back by one or go into the timing setup and just press use current time
7. Also for the same slider use 1,3 SV for the first one and then 00:34:713 (1) - 1,4 and then 00:35:284 (1) - 1,5 make it gradually increase and the last slider cna go up to 1,6 or stay as 1,5 up to you
8. 00:47:856 (10,11) - both NC
9. 00:49:141 (1,2) - whats the point of puting a circle so close to the slider, making the sider curve but not blanketing it >_>
10. 00:56:856 (9,11) - you use a lot of these lol, so circular, tbh your map in some points feels like a circle
11. 00:57:713 (11,1) - please dude fix these blankets
12. 01:00:427 (6,7) - ^
13. 01:01:570 (9,10) - ^ wont mention it again, i dont like mentioning the same thing 4 times, you get the idea scan for more of them, and NC this slider as well
14. your note and slider placement is really random tbh with you, like for example 01:06:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - look at those nasty overlaps you are creating, dont rush mapping take care and give everything its own place
15. 01:10:284 (1) - NC this
16. 01:18:428 (10,1) - nasty overlap again
17. 01:18:285 (9,10) - whats this? why is this so close together you emphasise every sound like this with a jump and you leave this, also this only happens once try to keep consistancy
18. 01:56:571 (3,3) - remember the increasing SV earlier with a similar idea behind it, do it here as well gradually increasing DS as well
19. 02:25:142 (2) - unrankable, im assuming this was a mistake
20. 02:32:285 (1) - remove this NC and put one here 02:32:571 (3) - it keeps consistancy with the previous (6) combo
21. 02:54:714 (8) - NC here not next, look keep your NC every big white tick or when a strong beat comes then nobody will complain
22. saying that, do this this will make sure the map is easier to pass, as of im sure you already know that NC's add more HP re-gen, (1) especially so in that way those jumps will be more easier to do. Do that in the same NC order for the next super jumps
23. 03:18:857 (3,3,3) - SV/DS thing, you get the idea
24. 03:47:428 (1,3) - you could increase the SV for these sliders because of the stronger vocals
25. 04:05:571 (6) - NC
26. 04:07:857 (7) - ^
27. 04:09:000 (1) - ^
28. 05:07:571 (4) - NC here sdmkajfnsdijgo
29. 05:19:714 (13) - place this at the position of the slider-end or 05:19:142 (9) - dont stack after a long series of jumps, plays bad imo
30. there's lots more that i just havent mentioned since there is too much of the same mistakes so i just left them out

C00L wrote:

right

[General]

1. May i ask why roosterteeth is in the tags? Cause roosterteeth made rwby...., Ill just remove it .-.
2. remove your own name from the tags pls
3. the term RWBY has to go from the Source as well, Source gets added when the map is ranked and there is a source for it, or some sort of videogame then go ahead, like em bagugan or some shit (does that exist?) Isn't it "Bakugan" lol
4. rwby.jpg is 1147x757, it's a bad size for an image sorry, correct size is 1366x768 try to get an image that size will help

[Timing]

1. 8,980, (press timing panel go to bottom highlight up to the second timing point, the green lines, move by -19 before pressing move highlight adjust all bookamarks) - DO THIS LAST

[Hitsounds]

1. 00:11:284 (7) - use some sort of orchestra sound, rather than a clap it doesnt stand out at all, ill remember this set and ill give you a couple of hitsounds when i come back from VACation, since my internet limits me atm
2. 01:12:999 (1) - claps and the whistles here work very well
3. Also limit yourself to using more than 80% volume, it's just too loud

[Red Rose]

1. 00:08:998 (1) - having a green inheriting point and a timing point with both different samples and volumes is unrankable btw, just to let you know oh damn, I forgot about that .-.
2. 00:13:284 (4,6) - pls dont make overlaps like these, at least give it some space up until the first approach line comes up on a 1/8, also fix the blanket if you decide to keep it
3. 00:26:713 (9,1) - why not make (9) end at the start of (1), i.e. the slider end of (9) will end on the head of (1) will add a nice droppy part to it, getting the player ready for something more imo, rather than continuing with the same jumps over and over
4. 00:29:570 (11) - make this the NC that's where the new,strong beat it >_>
5. 00:31:856 (9) - ^
6. 00:34:141 (1) - your green point is messed up here its actually in front of the slider, move it back by one or go into the timing setup and just press use current time
7. Also for the same slider use 1,3 SV for the first one and then 00:34:713 (1) - 1,4 and then 00:35:284 (1) - 1,5 make it gradually increase and the last slider cna go up to 1,6 or stay as 1,5 up to you ooo sounds good
8. 00:47:856 (10,11) - both NC
9. 00:49:141 (1,2) - whats the point of puting a circle so close to the slider, making the sider curve but not blanketing it >_>
10. 00:56:856 (9,11) - you use a lot of these lol, so circular, tbh your map in some points feels like a circle
11. 00:57:713 (11,1) - please dude fix these blankets
12. 01:00:427 (6,7) - ^
13. 01:01:570 (9,10) - ^ wont mention it again, i dont like mentioning the same thing 4 times, you get the idea scan for more of them, and NC this slider as well
14. your note and slider placement is really random tbh with you, like for example 01:06:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - look at those nasty overlaps you are creating, dont rush mapping take care and give everything its own place I don't rush tho ;-;
15. 01:10:284 (1) - NC this
16. 01:18:428 (10,1) - nasty overlap again
17. 01:18:285 (9,10) - whats this? why is this so close together you emphasise every sound like this with a jump and you leave this, also this only happens once try to keep consistency they're the same ds >.>
18. 01:56:571 (3,3) - remember the increasing SV earlier with a similar idea behind it, do it here as well gradually increasing DS as well
19. 02:25:142 (2) - unrankable, im assuming this was a mistake how did that happen???
20. 02:32:285 (1) - remove this NC and put one here 02:32:571 (3) - it keeps consistancy with the previous (6) combo
21. 02:54:714 (8) - NC here not next, look keep your NC every big white tick or when a strong beat comes then nobody will complain
22. saying that, do this this will make sure the map is easier to pass, as of im sure you already know that NC's add more HP re-gen, (1) especially so in that way those jumps will be more easier to do. Do that in the same NC order for the next super jumps o.O I didn't know it helped with health....
23. 03:18:857 (3,3,3) - SV/DS thing, you get the idea
24. 03:47:428 (1,3) - you could increase the SV for these sliders because of the stronger vocals
25. 04:05:571 (6) - NC
26. 04:07:857 (7) - ^
27. 04:09:000 (1) - ^
28. 05:07:571 (4) - NC here sdmkajfnsdijgo
29. 05:19:714 (13) - place this at the position of the slider-end or 05:19:142 (9) - dont stack after a long series of jumps, plays bad imo
30. there's lots more that i just havent mentioned since there is too much of the same mistakes so i just left them out

[Final Words]

The map rhytm wise is good, but you lack visuals, what i mean by that em you place everything anywhere you have to make choices where everything has to go, dont just place notes/sliders wherever, it can work but i mean with lots of luck since then if it dosent work it looks all cramped and not polished looking. In my opinion this map isn't ready for approval, sorry to say that but the map isnt as good as it could be. You are just starting in this genre you could call it, dw if you hav the will to rank this you will have to face a lot of difficulties along the way, i.e. several remaps or big changes. I am saying this so that you know how i feel about it, i dont like lying seriously, but I'm also saying this not to dissencourage you, but reversly to encourage you as much as possible !! Take advice from what i said and remember...

N E V A G I V E U P ! ! ! !

MaridiuS wrote:

huge irc mod about life

2016-08-01 18:39 MaridiuS: yo
2016-08-01 18:39 MaridiuS: can i give u
2016-08-01 18:39 MaridiuS: irc mod?
2016-08-01 18:40 shapapa: ummmm
2016-08-01 18:40 shapapa: Yeah I guess
2016-08-01 18:40 shapapa: well wait tho
2016-08-01 18:40 shapapa: Im about to update my map
2016-08-01 18:41 MaridiuS: ok
2016-08-01 18:41 MaridiuS: brb pee
2016-08-01 18:47 MaridiuS: okay
2016-08-01 18:47 MaridiuS: here i come
2016-08-01 18:47 shapapa: :/
2016-08-01 18:48 MaridiuS: 00:09:551 (4,5) - you should make circular flow here
2016-08-01 18:48 MaridiuS: because it is impossibel to make a balanced square without overlapping with the first slider
2016-08-01 18:49 MaridiuS: something like this: http://puu.sh/qm8qL/41a7bd2cd0.jpg
2016-08-01 18:49 shapapa: So do I make in a sorta of pentagonal shape?
2016-08-01 18:49 MaridiuS: yeah
2016-08-01 18:50 MaridiuS: 00:10:551 (2,4,6) -
2016-08-01 18:50 MaridiuS: only 4 and 6 should be stacked
2016-08-01 18:51 MaridiuS: as they have same sounsd but (2) doesn't
2016-08-01 18:51 MaridiuS: 00:12:980 (2,3,4,5) - notice how this pattern doesn't look blanced
2016-08-01 18:51 MaridiuS: all circles should have same spacing from each other
2016-08-01 18:51 MaridiuS: for better aesthetics
2016-08-01 18:52 MaridiuS: 00:18:551 (2,5) -
2016-08-01 18:52 MaridiuS: same goes for these 2
2016-08-01 18:53 MaridiuS: 00:21:122 (3,4) -
2016-08-01 18:53 MaridiuS: one should be copy pasted
2016-08-01 18:53 MaridiuS: and rotated with ctrl+shift+r
2016-08-01 18:55 MaridiuS: 00:20:694 (1) -
2016-08-01 18:55 MaridiuS: all sliders in this case should start on white tick
2016-08-01 18:55 MaridiuS: they're stronger
2016-08-01 18:55 MaridiuS: if you're making them
2016-08-01 18:56 MaridiuS: 00:24:408 (2,3) - i'd make them somthing like that
2016-08-01 18:56 MaridiuS: as those sounds to me like they should contradict themselves
2016-08-01 18:57 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qm8Uo/8fddcdf1f5.jpg
2016-08-01 18:57 MaridiuS: it is overall a more beautiful pattern
2016-08-01 18:57 MaridiuS: 00:24:980 (4) - should be NC
2016-08-01 18:58 MaridiuS: 00:27:551 (2,3,4) - this pattern is really unpleasant
2016-08-01 18:58 MaridiuS: when it comes to flow
2016-08-01 18:59 MaridiuS: and no particular reason to stack (4) on top of the slider
2016-08-01 18:59 MaridiuS: so my suggestion is to make circular flow
2016-08-01 18:59 MaridiuS: or make it jumps
2016-08-01 18:59 MaridiuS: its about 7.5* and i've still not found jumps
2016-08-01 19:00 MaridiuS: 00:28:694 (8,9) - for example you can ctrl+G this
2016-08-01 19:00 MaridiuS: it sounds like it needs to be jumpy
2016-08-01 19:00 MaridiuS: it would be more fun
2016-08-01 19:01 MaridiuS: 00:31:265 (7,1) - blanket needs fixing and i personally wouldn't use so close blankets on such a hard difficulty
2016-08-01 19:01 MaridiuS: because they will make the player do small movements
2016-08-01 19:01 MaridiuS: when the map is really dificult it is supposedly spaced, so even blankets should be more spaced
2016-08-01 19:02 MaridiuS: 00:32:551 (3) - this beat is stronger compared to 00:32:837 (5) - therefore make a slider there
2016-08-01 19:02 MaridiuS: and make some jumps
2016-08-01 19:03 MaridiuS: this jump requires much bigger spacing 00:34:694 (1,2) -
2016-08-01 19:03 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qm9hW/88cc887f5c.jpg
2016-08-01 19:03 MaridiuS: this much
2016-08-01 19:04 MaridiuS: 00:37:408 (5) - instead of this make 2 jumps
2016-08-01 19:05 MaridiuS: in this song it would be much better to follow this two offbeats usually 00:37:122 (4) - this and 00:37:694 (6) -
2016-08-01 19:05 MaridiuS: with sliders
2016-08-01 19:05 MaridiuS: 00:41:122 (1,2) - should all be circles
2016-08-01 19:06 MaridiuS: listen to the guitar it's having same intensity on red and white ticks
2016-08-01 19:06 MaridiuS: starting here
2016-08-01 19:06 MaridiuS: 00:42:122 (4,5,8,9) - this overlapping is really bad
2016-08-01 19:06 MaridiuS: nothing should touch there
2016-08-01 19:07 MaridiuS: 00:44:980 (4,5,6,7) - this is hard to play, you can make it more fun to play by making it jumpy, not circluar flow out of sharp jumps
2016-08-01 19:07 MaridiuS: 00:49:122 (1,2) - yeah this kind of blankets force players to move their hand uncomfortably
2016-08-01 19:08 MaridiuS: 00:49:551 (2,3,4,5) - random spacing , no reason for decreasing
2016-08-01 19:08 MaridiuS: 00:50:408 (2,3) - ctrl+g
2016-08-01 19:08 MaridiuS: for really good flow
2016-08-01 19:09 MaridiuS: 00:51:408 (8,9) - make it much more spaced
2016-08-01 19:10 MaridiuS: 00:52:694 (1,2,3) - make it like double spacing and triangles this pattern
2016-08-01 19:10 MaridiuS: it's so anticlimatic in a 7.5* diff
2016-08-01 19:11 MaridiuS: 00:57:694 (3,2,4) - overlap doesn't look good, fixy fixxy
2016-08-01 19:12 MaridiuS: 00:59:837 (2,3,4,5) - too small spacing
2016-08-01 19:12 MaridiuS: 01:02:837 (4,5,6,7) - notice the bass guitar kicking in
2016-08-01 19:12 MaridiuS: meaning you should increase spacing
2016-08-01 19:13 MaridiuS: 01:04:980 (5) - how can you resist not increaseing SV on this slider
2016-08-01 19:15 MaridiuS: 01:16:838 (1,2,4,6) - overlaps
2016-08-01 19:15 MaridiuS: okay
2016-08-01 19:15 MaridiuS: 01:20:266 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2016-08-01 19:15 MaridiuS: why did you suddenly start making jumps ;v
2016-08-01 19:16 shapapa: I just felt the urge to............. xD
2016-08-01 19:16 MaridiuS: well duh
2016-08-01 19:16 MaridiuS: when you didnt make jumps for a whiole
2016-08-01 19:16 MaridiuS: when you should
2016-08-01 19:16 MaridiuS: like the whole kiai section should be quite more jumpy
2016-08-01 19:17 shapapa: I believe I mapped the first kiai a bit more differently then the rest tho...
2016-08-01 19:17 shapapa: Ill fix that
2016-08-01 19:17 MaridiuS: you need to take in consideration a lot of the things going on in the song
2016-08-01 19:17 MaridiuS: which beat is stronger
2016-08-01 19:18 MaridiuS: where should i do jumps
2016-08-01 19:18 MaridiuS: some examples
2016-08-01 19:18 MaridiuS: 01:17:123 (3,4,5,6) - i'd put like
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmaas/8bef19c4ec.jpg
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: 01:26:266 (1,2) -
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: another rxample
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: make this a jump
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: etc
2016-08-01 19:19 MaridiuS: compared to 01:25:981 (11,12) -
2016-08-01 19:20 MaridiuS: 01:28:981 (2,3) - way too small
2016-08-01 19:20 MaridiuS: in an ending of Kiai
2016-08-01 19:20 MaridiuS: of a 7.5*
2016-08-01 19:20 MaridiuS: should be like cross screen 1/2 slider jumps in this cases
2016-08-01 19:20 shapapa: it's 7.48*
2016-08-01 19:20 shapapa:
2016-08-01 19:20 MaridiuS: ;v
2016-08-01 19:20 shapapa: lol
2016-08-01 19:21 MaridiuS: 01:30:695 (8,9,10,11) - and this should be huge jumps
2016-08-01 19:21 MaridiuS: like 3DS
2016-08-01 19:21 MaridiuS: or 2.5
2016-08-01 19:21 MaridiuS: 01:49:981 (3,4) - ew overlap
2016-08-01 19:21 shapapa: Well
2016-08-01 19:21 shapapa: I kinda of wanted to slowly increase the ds
2016-08-01 19:21 shapapa: trhoughout the kiais
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: that is old style of mapping
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: But I guess Imma have to chnage the ds on all of them ;/
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: Is that a bad thing? ;(
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: well yeah
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: it's anti climatic
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: you want fun
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: but it just turns out
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: 12 jumps
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: and then bam slowed down xd
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: ugu
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: imagine cookiezi seeing 7.5*
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: and saying
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: hell yeah
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: i'm gotta jump the shit out of this map!
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: no
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: please no
2016-08-01 19:22 MaridiuS: 2 minutes later
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: ok
2016-08-01 19:22 shapapa: I get the point
2016-08-01 19:23 shapapa: plz
2016-08-01 19:23 MaridiuS: oki
2016-08-01 19:23 MaridiuS: 01:51:981 (1,3) - and you gotta pay attention to these kind of overlasp
2016-08-01 19:24 MaridiuS: and rethink
2016-08-01 19:24 MaridiuS: what beat is stronger
2016-08-01 19:25 MaridiuS: 02:05:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this one are a lot stronger than 01:20:266 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2016-08-01 19:25 MaridiuS: but have same or even smaller jumping
2016-08-01 19:25 MaridiuS: even if it is not kiai the guitarist certaintly put some intensity into his guitar right there
2016-08-01 19:28 MaridiuS: 03:03:123 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5) - intensity here doesn't really change that much
2016-08-01 19:28 MaridiuS: compared to previous sounds such as this
2016-08-01 19:28 MaridiuS: but the spacing is really low
2016-08-01 19:29 MaridiuS: buildup starts pretty hard
2016-08-01 19:29 MaridiuS: but suddenly it becomes super easy
2016-08-01 19:30 shapapa: damn
2016-08-01 19:30 shapapa: this is a first :/
2016-08-01 19:31 MaridiuS: and also flow issues
2016-08-01 19:31 MaridiuS: 03:12:695 (4,5,6) - this for example
2016-08-01 19:31 MaridiuS: out of sharp angles you get a obtuse jump
2016-08-01 19:31 MaridiuS: which is uncomfortable to play
2016-08-01 19:32 MaridiuS: and overlaps 03:13:409 (9,12) -
2016-08-01 19:32 MaridiuS: okay i will now just check out some flow issues and structure issues
2016-08-01 19:32 MaridiuS: rather than spacing
2016-08-01 19:32 MaridiuS: because i assume that you alerady have some plan on jumping
2016-08-01 19:32 MaridiuS: if you're up for remapping a bit
2016-08-01 19:33 shapapa: Im always up for remapping
2016-08-01 19:33 shapapa: Considering the amount of time I have :/
2016-08-01 19:33 MaridiuS: this is called a passive slider
2016-08-01 19:33 MaridiuS: 03:16:266 (1) -
2016-08-01 19:33 MaridiuS: when it ends on a strong beat but starts on a weak one
2016-08-01 19:33 MaridiuS: you should really evade them
2016-08-01 19:34 MaridiuS: flow such as this 03:15:838 (10,11,12) -
2016-08-01 19:34 MaridiuS: snapping from the slider end to the circle has one angle
2016-08-01 19:34 MaridiuS: but the jump from the circle to next slider has softer angle
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: there are cases when this is good to do
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: but this is not teh case
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: oops rofl
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: i was literally pointing out stuff i literally just placed
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: best modder
2016-08-01 19:35 MaridiuS: 2016
2016-08-01 19:36 shapapa: lmao
2016-08-01 19:36 MaridiuS: 03:17:266 (4,5) - dont force blankets
2016-08-01 19:36 MaridiuS: just continue with the spaicng
2016-08-01 19:36 MaridiuS: like 3 to 4
2016-08-01 19:36 MaridiuS: no need to force blankets
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: 03:17:981 (7) - this flow from the slider end is not really recommended
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: placing the slider here
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmbhP/88c366a0f7.jpg
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: would make a circular flow
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: rather than
2016-08-01 19:38 MaridiuS: (nonexistant flow)
2016-08-01 19:39 MaridiuS: should make this slider same as the one below
2016-08-01 19:39 MaridiuS: 03:21:409 (2,5) -
2016-08-01 19:39 shapapa: So um
2016-08-01 19:39 shapapa: we're just gonna skip the whole part between the first and second kiai?
2016-08-01 19:40 shapapa: Or is there nothing to do there?
2016-08-01 19:40 MaridiuS: well there is stuff
2016-08-01 19:40 MaridiuS: like overlaps
2016-08-01 19:40 MaridiuS: and jumps remapping
2016-08-01 19:40 shapapa: T_T
2016-08-01 19:41 MaridiuS: but i'll find flow issues there np
2016-08-01 19:41 MaridiuS: lets say this
2016-08-01 19:41 MaridiuS: 01:52:552 (3,4) -
2016-08-01 19:41 MaridiuS: and ofc fix overlap first
2016-08-01 19:41 MaridiuS: as you see the slider is facing towards the bottom (5)
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: so comfortabel things to do
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: would be to continue going down with the slider
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: with cursor
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: or make a sharp snap
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: in the opossite direction
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: for example place (4) here
2016-08-01 19:42 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmbwA/8af1d75c5d.jpg
2016-08-01 19:43 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmby4/a8dcfa16ea.jpg here
2016-08-01 19:43 MaridiuS: or
2016-08-01 19:43 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmbzn/79eef9bfaa.jpg
2016-08-01 19:43 MaridiuS: would be okay
2016-08-01 19:44 MaridiuS: and based on where that is placed
2016-08-01 19:44 MaridiuS: the next jump
2016-08-01 19:44 MaridiuS: should have the same angle from that circle
2016-08-01 19:44 shapapa: oh
2016-08-01 19:44 shapapa: I think I just remapped that part already.....
2016-08-01 19:44 MaridiuS: doesn't matter
2016-08-01 19:45 MaridiuS: i'm just giving you flow explanation :d
2016-08-01 19:45 shapapa: oh
2016-08-01 19:45 shapapa:
2016-08-01 19:45 MaridiuS: okay fine i go to the third kiai
2016-08-01 19:45 MaridiuS: to find flow issues
2016-08-01 19:45 MaridiuS: okay here it is
2016-08-01 19:46 MaridiuS: they all have same flow
2016-08-01 19:46 MaridiuS: 03:57:981 (2,3,4,5) -
2016-08-01 19:46 MaridiuS: however
2016-08-01 19:46 MaridiuS: there is a change in sounds
2016-08-01 19:46 MaridiuS: 03:58:266 (4) - here
2016-08-01 19:47 MaridiuS: meaning that you should make a change in angle
2016-08-01 19:47 MaridiuS: or spacing
2016-08-01 19:47 MaridiuS: or both
2016-08-01 19:47 MaridiuS: here are 2 examples
2016-08-01 19:47 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmbOh/24cbcfb090.jpg
2016-08-01 19:49 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmbT1/b18a73e04f.jpg
2016-08-01 19:49 MaridiuS: 04:01:409 (9,10,11,12,1) - next this
2016-08-01 19:49 MaridiuS: is circular flow
2016-08-01 19:49 MaridiuS: and it is considered not to be as fun as sharp flow
2016-08-01 19:49 MaridiuS: on such spacing
2016-08-01 19:50 MaridiuS: next
2016-08-01 19:50 MaridiuS: you can increase spacing from this note
2016-08-01 19:50 MaridiuS: 04:01:695 (11,12,1) -
2016-08-01 19:50 MaridiuS: or flow change
2016-08-01 19:50 MaridiuS: up to you
2016-08-01 19:51 MaridiuS: now this jump
2016-08-01 19:51 MaridiuS: 04:06:409 (2,3,1) -
2016-08-01 19:51 MaridiuS: is really hard as your jumping from an obtuse angle
2016-08-01 19:52 MaridiuS: into a slider facing the same direction
2016-08-01 19:52 MaridiuS: from which the jump came
2016-08-01 19:52 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmc43/c47349b78f.jpg
2016-08-01 19:52 MaridiuS: something like this would be really nice
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: and the way the slider is right now
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: 04:06:695 (1,2) -
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: the direction
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: it's going
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: is incorrect
2016-08-01 19:53 MaridiuS: either should (2) be below slider
2016-08-01 19:54 MaridiuS: or
2016-08-01 19:54 MaridiuS: 04:07:123 (2,3) - this should be sharper towards slider
2016-08-01 19:54 MaridiuS: right below it
2016-08-01 19:54 MaridiuS: okay thats it for flow right now
2016-08-01 19:55 MaridiuS: now just a bit more about slider structure
2016-08-01 19:55 MaridiuS: and that it
2016-08-01 19:55 MaridiuS: 04:13:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2016-08-01 19:55 MaridiuS: this pattern is 100% random
2016-08-01 19:55 MaridiuS: there are a lot of ways to fix it
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: like making the sliders face the same direction, slider end going completely towarsd the next slider
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: and then switching flow on like 5fth slider
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: make symmetrical slider
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: make a buildup
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: copy paste sliders
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: 2 to be linear
2016-08-01 19:56 MaridiuS: 2 to be curved
2016-08-01 19:57 MaridiuS: can keep same spacing
2016-08-01 19:57 MaridiuS: can do something like angles changes in the sliders
2016-08-01 19:57 MaridiuS: in a circular flow
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: 04:19:266 (2,3,4,5,1) - same here randomness issues
2016-08-01 19:58 shapapa: http://puu.sh/qmcof/1e4eea0106.jpg
2016-08-01 19:58 shapapa: would that be ok?
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: i'd personally make symmetris
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: 2 by 2
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: 04:19:266 (2,3) -
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: these 2 same
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: 04:19:838 (4,5) - and these 2
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: and being inversed
2016-08-01 19:58 MaridiuS: are they all copy pastes?
2016-08-01 19:59 MaridiuS: and that wouldn't be okay
2016-08-01 19:59 MaridiuS: because of flow issues
2016-08-01 19:59 MaridiuS: okay
2016-08-01 19:59 MaridiuS: i have an idea
2016-08-01 20:01 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmcAt/dd11819475.jpg
2016-08-01 20:02 MaridiuS: note the (4) being close to (1) isn't visible on 9.8 ar
2016-08-01 20:02 MaridiuS: lul
2016-08-01 20:03 MaridiuS: hm
2016-08-01 20:03 MaridiuS: i have a map
2016-08-01 20:03 MaridiuS: with a lot of sliders placed well
2016-08-01 20:05 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmcJY/b2ad03f65f.osz
2016-08-01 20:05 MaridiuS: 01:09:725 - here for example

MaridiuS wrote:

recheck

2016-08-02 01:05 MaridiuS: wurf
2016-08-02 01:06 shapapa: What does that mean!? ;-;
2016-08-02 01:06 MaridiuS: 00:09:694 (5,2) -
2016-08-02 01:06 MaridiuS: starting with overlap
2016-08-02 01:06 MaridiuS: wew lad
2016-08-02 01:06 shapapa: omg no
2016-08-02 01:06 shapapa: NotLikeThis
2016-08-02 01:07 MaridiuS: 00:15:408 (3,6) -
2016-08-02 01:07 MaridiuS: wew lad
2016-08-02 01:07 shapapa: Stop
2016-08-02 01:07 shapapa: Plz
2016-08-02 01:07 MaridiuS: but its much better
2016-08-02 01:07 MaridiuS: i can see already
2016-08-02 01:08 shapapa: T^T
2016-08-02 01:08 shapapa: I could've barely used ds in the last kiai cause it was so large lmao
2016-08-02 01:10 shapapa: Idk how to replace the cuurent thumbnail with the acual ;-;
2016-08-02 01:10 shapapa: *actual
2016-08-02 01:11 MaridiuS: i think the site will change it eventually
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: 00:43:265 (1,2) -
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: wew lad
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: 00:44:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - wew lad
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: u didnt make this in a sharp flow
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: but rather kept it in circular ;v
2016-08-02 01:16 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmwRk/a7273250ad.jpg
2016-08-02 01:17 MaridiuS: random suggestion
2016-08-02 01:17 shapapa: Was I supposed to make to sharp?
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: overall
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: the map is in a much better state
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: i'm proud
2016-08-02 01:18 shapapa: Thanks I guess lol
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: oh also
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: i wouldn't put this much DS
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: on last kiai
2016-08-02 01:18 MaridiuS: its too big
2016-08-02 01:18 shapapa: UGH
2016-08-02 01:18 shapapa: FA
2016-08-02 01:18 shapapa: SDFA
2016-08-02 01:19 MaridiuS: regular sound should have reduced spacing
2016-08-02 01:19 MaridiuS: 05:12:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - like this
2016-08-02 01:19 MaridiuS: also wew lad
2016-08-02 01:20 MaridiuS: 05:15:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this stuff can keep spacing
2016-08-02 01:20 MaridiuS: 05:17:552 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay but needs some flow fix
2016-08-02 01:20 MaridiuS: 05:20:266 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-08-02 01:20 MaridiuS: reduce spacing
2016-08-02 01:20 MaridiuS: 05:21:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a little reduce
2016-08-02 01:21 MaridiuS: 05:23:266 (5,3) - wew lad
2016-08-02 01:21 MaridiuS: 05:24:266 (4,6) - wew lad
2016-08-02 01:21 MaridiuS: 05:28:266 (1) - delete slider
2016-08-02 01:21 MaridiuS: all jumps
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: 05:28:981 (5) - should be 1 long direciton no reverse because of guitar
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: ending here
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: 05:28:981 (5) -
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: oops
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: 05:29:409 -
2016-08-02 01:22 MaridiuS: here
2016-08-02 01:23 MaridiuS: and also 04:01:409 (9,10,11,12) - simply refran from using obtuse flow for more than 3 circles
2016-08-02 01:23 MaridiuS: it isn't really pleasant to play
2016-08-02 01:24 MaridiuS: okay i'm gonna teach you a little trick for this
2016-08-02 01:24 MaridiuS: 03:53:123 (1,1,1) -
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: for example here
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: 03:55:266 -
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: place 3 notes on 3 white ticks
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmxrK/14da43d8d0.jpg
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: like this for example
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: copy and paste
2016-08-02 01:26 MaridiuS: on red tick
2016-08-02 01:27 MaridiuS: ctrl+H then ctrl+J
2016-08-02 01:27 MaridiuS: valah
2016-08-02 01:27 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/qmxvb/39f48393aa.jpg
2016-08-02 01:28 MaridiuS: 03:53:123 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - then replace this with that
2016-08-02 01:29 MaridiuS: 02:53:695 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) -
2016-08-02 01:30 MaridiuS: you can make this
2016-08-02 01:30 MaridiuS: using the method
2016-08-02 01:30 MaridiuS: to be more beautiful
2016-08-02 01:30 MaridiuS: or wait
2016-08-02 01:30 MaridiuS: u actually did
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: but it feels like you can make the curve a little bit better idk
2016-08-02 01:31 shapapa: I just rotated by a certain degree
2016-08-02 01:31 shapapa: then scale it up by 1.2
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: 03:02:695 (1,1) -
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: also this
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: is completely unreadable
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: same buildup radius
2016-08-02 01:31 MaridiuS: but in 1/1
2016-08-02 01:32 shapapa: What if I just removed nc on the 1 on the large jumps?
2016-08-02 01:32 shapapa: 03:02:695 (1) -
2016-08-02 01:32 shapapa: right there
2016-08-02 01:32 MaridiuS: that would work
2016-08-02 01:33 MaridiuS: but still
2016-08-02 01:33 MaridiuS: change placing on 1
2016-08-02 01:33 MaridiuS: 03:02:981 (1) -
2016-08-02 01:33 MaridiuS: players will be exhausted after this pattern
2016-08-02 01:33 MaridiuS: and figuring out where the next cirlce will appear is too much
2016-08-02 01:34 MaridiuS: 03:15:266 (8,10) - wew lad
2016-08-02 01:35 MaridiuS: 03:27:981 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
2016-08-02 01:35 MaridiuS: this is some nice stuff
2016-08-02 01:35 MaridiuS: 03:40:981 (6,9,1) - wew lad!!
2016-08-02 01:35 MaridiuS: 03:41:266 (8,1) -
2016-08-02 01:35 MaridiuS: shit m9
2016-08-02 01:36 MaridiuS: i know its easily fixable
2016-08-02 01:36 MaridiuS: but my eyes cannot be fixed anymore after seeing that rofl
2016-08-02 01:36 shapapa: -_-
2016-08-02 01:36 shapapa: Im ingoring that just because you said it
2016-08-02 01:36 MaridiuS: im sry xd
2016-08-02 01:37 shapapa: nope
2016-08-02 01:37 shapapa: too late
2016-08-02 01:37 MaridiuS: anyways i'm posting this recheck
2016-08-02 01:38 shapapa: u.u