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Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell
fixed everything except these 00:31:594 (6) - in hard and sinfonia because, I did have them DSd before but they felt weird to me and I recently figured out why; if I DS them there still wont be any emphasize on the strong beat on the last circle because the spacing between the slider and the circle prior is the same. So there is actually less emphasize on the strong beat if I DS it which makes it play weird, so I just stacked it to put the emphasize on the spinner follow up which plays better imo

regarding the weird NCs: I Likely NCd certain patterns that stick out or differences in vocals which seem to break the usual NC patterns. Its what I generally tend to do while mapping but I fixed them all
Thank you!
Cheri
Beatmap Nominator
1,652 posts
Joined November 2014
Cheri
wow this pretty good and u even made a mapset for this long song - I gave a couple stars

sorry for no mod
Shunao
1,737 posts
Joined February 2016
Shunao
Heyo!~

NM from my Q

  • General
  1. maybe finish normal diff like hard and last diff? because bpm don't look similar: normal and hard
  • Normal
  1. 00:22:594 (2,3) - imperfect blanket (i don't know if that's the point)
  2. 02:35:879 (2,1) - this overlap doesn't look nice imo i suggest maybe at x:74 y:126
  3. 02:38:451 (2,1) - :/ https://puu.sh/xes29/67073b1b77.png
  4. 03:08:451 (1) - idk if this spinner is too short for newbies maybe if it's fine it's okay but if it's not good i suggest to enlarge it until 03:11:022
  5. 04:02:558 (1,1) - same here ^
  6. 04:24:737 (3,2) - stack them?
  • Hard
  1. 04:01:165 (3,4,5) - i don't think this overlap is necessary here
  • Sinfonia
  1. 00:14:237 (2,3) - better stacking?
  2. 03:05:987 (1,1,1,1,1) - why this is not similar as 04:02:558 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - i think you can emphasis the 1st part before the break
  3. 03:47:022 (1,4) - better stack on sliders tails


Clean mapset!

gl!~
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell

ShogunMoon wrote:

Heyo!~

NM from my Q

  • General
  1. maybe finish normal diff like hard and last diff? because bpm don't look similar: normal and hard That shouldnt matter, since the bpm is only differen cause of the piano timing at the end and mapping that in the normal would be too difficult to follow for beginners
  • Normal
  1. 00:22:594 (2,3) - imperfect blanket (i don't know if that's the point) fixed
  2. 02:35:879 (2,1) - this overlap doesn't look nice imo i suggest maybe at x:74 y:126 fixed
  3. 02:38:451 (2,1) - :/ https://puu.sh/xes29/67073b1b77.png fixed
  4. 03:08:451 (1) - idk if this spinner is too short for newbies maybe if it's fine it's okay but if it's not good i suggest to enlarge it until 03:11:022
  5. 04:02:558 (1,1) - same here ^ should be fine
  6. 04:24:737 (3,2) - stack them? ya
  • Hard
  1. 04:01:165 (3,4,5) - i don't think this overlap is necessary here wanna keep it in line with the pattern of 03:59:879 (1,2,3) -
  • Sinfonia
  1. 00:14:237 (2,3) - better stacking? ya, damn rounding errors
  2. 03:05:987 (1,1,1,1,1) - why this is not similar as 04:02:558 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - i think you can emphasis the 1st part before the break true
  3. 03:47:022 (1,4) - better stack on sliders tails A


Clean mapset!

gl!~
thanks alot!
josh1024
224 posts
Joined October 2014
josh1024
From the queue:

Finally I'm here. Not much of a help tho. sorry.

Normal
01:46:272 (1) and 04:02:558 (1) mapped differently?
04:34:594 (3,4,5) wide angle plus only used once. I'm not quite comfortable w/ this.

Sinfonia
01:34:379 (3,4,5,6,7) drum 03:23:022 (4,5,6,7) no sound but same pattern 03:50:879 (4) drum but no pattern?
03:49:165 (6,7) maybe have larger space before 7 than 6.
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell

josh1024 wrote:

From the queue:

Finally I'm here. Not much of a help tho. sorry.

Normal
01:46:272 (1) and 04:02:558 (1) mapped differently? lol yea made them consistent
04:34:594 (3,4,5) wide angle plus only used once. I'm not quite comfortable w/ this. changed the slider 04:33:951 - to make it flow
better into the angle

Sinfonia
01:34:379 (3,4,5,6,7) drum 03:23:022 (4,5,6,7) no sound but same pattern 03:50:879 (4) drum but no pattern? made first pattern same as last one
03:49:165 (6,7) maybe have larger space before 7 than 6. ya
thank you
- Dom -
5 posts
Joined November 2017
- Dom -
Nice map, although I have one request, maybe more difficulties than three nowadays most maps have 4-7 just a suggestion other than that, Great map! :)
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell
due to this song being >5min long Im not actually obligated to have more than 1 diff. If the song itself would call for something more difficult than my current top diff Id go at it but dont think I can make something more challenging without it overshadowing the song, glad to hear you like it though!
Smokeman
Beatmap Nominator
456 posts
Joined November 2012
Smokeman
i care about low diff marathon spreads C:

General

Meta checks out.
05:05:498 (1) - i think these long sliders are fine with muted slider ticks and slide as the vocals are pretty constant and clean. If you want you could add for just this slider the following quieter soft-sliderslide https://puu.sh/AaUe3/4ecd143417.wav

Sinfonia

01:24:951 (1,2,3,1) - This felt kinda excessive. You think you could nerf it a bit? Like reduce 01:25:379 (3,1) - /move 01:25:379 (3) - to 224|64
01:34:594 (4,5,6) - ctrl+g the rhythm ? I know you follow the vocals but the slider ends weird on a the first drum. Followed by the second drum on first of the two following circles.
03:41:022 (1,2,3) - space these more out like 01:24:951 (1,2,3,1) -
04:30:308 (6) - Have you considered putting this liek so https://puu.sh/AaSKx/911f7207ae.jpg . it looks a bit too close to 04:29:451 (4) - making the pattern looks kinda crammed even tho 04:29:451 (4,5) - are pretty space-y and free-y kinda.


hard

01:20:237 (5,6) - let this stack in the direction of the slider just like 00:30:737 (4,5,6) - (in other words custom stack it)
01:30:737 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - pretty packed but ok


normal

all cool


all looks good!
call me Mr.Back
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell

Smokeman wrote:

i care about low diff marathon spreads C:

General

Meta checks out.
05:05:498 (1) - i think these long sliders are fine with muted slider ticks and slide as the vocals are pretty constant and clean. If you want you could add for just this slider the following quieter soft-sliderslide https://puu.sh/AaUe3/4ecd143417.wav ya

Sinfonia

01:24:951 (1,2,3,1) - This felt kinda excessive. You think you could nerf it a bit? Like reduce 01:25:379 (3,1) - /move 01:25:379 (3) - to 224|64 ya
01:34:594 (4,5,6) - ctrl+g the rhythm ? I know you follow the vocals but the slider ends weird on a the first drum. Followed by the second drum on first of the two following circles. ya
03:41:022 (1,2,3) - space these more out like 01:24:951 (1,2,3,1) - ya
04:30:308 (6) - Have you considered putting this liek so https://puu.sh/AaSKx/911f7207ae.jpg . it looks a bit too close to 04:29:451 (4) - making the pattern looks kinda crammed even tho 04:29:451 (4,5) - are pretty space-y and free-y kinda. nah I dont see how its too crammed or too close to 4, I prefer the circles to have the opposite angle of 5


hard

01:20:237 (5,6) - let this stack in the direction of the slider just like 00:30:737 (4,5,6) - (in other words custom stack it) nah that looks too weird
01:30:737 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - pretty packed but ok


normal

all cool


all looks good!
call me Mr.Back
Smokeman
Beatmap Nominator
456 posts
Joined November 2012
Smokeman
bubble #1
Nozhomi
Beatmap Nominator
4,366 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
K go

[Hard :]
  1. 02:43:594 (4,5,6) - I can't understand why you stacked them when vocal could be emphazied with 02:44:022 (6) - . Also there's better spot to use stack like 02:51:094 (2,3,4,5) - imo.


[Sinfonia :]
  1. 00:07:165 (3,4,5,6,7) - Not hitsounded LO

I secretly wish last diff was AR9
Mukyu~
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell

Nozhomi wrote:

K go

[Hard :]
  1. 02:43:594 (4,5,6) - I can't understand why you stacked them when vocal could be emphazied with 02:44:022 (6) - . Also there's better spot to use stack like 02:51:094 (2,3,4,5) - imo. yea true changed that, tho left 02:51:094 (2,3,4,5) - cause the linear movement kinda achieves the same effect


[Sinfonia :]
  1. 00:07:165 (3,4,5,6,7) - Not hitsounded LO whoops

I secretly wish last diff was AR9
Mukyu~
Nozhomi
Beatmap Nominator
4,366 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
Mukyu~
Hobbes2
Beatmap Nominator
2,208 posts
Joined March 2016
Hobbes2
hi vell

normal -

I think this diff is designed kinda poorly, usually for low diffs you want the SV and DS to be kinda similar, closer to between .8 and 1.3 than stuff like 2.0 or 1.7 like you use a lot of. This is so the movement between objects can match the slider velocity so the movement is cohesive. It's even in the ranking criteria here: https://puu.sh/ACJXh/72eb148669.png. The best way to fix this is to increase the SV, but that does require a lot of work...

the sections with 1.5 DS are actually pretty fine (so the choruses) but the ones that go higher start to feel kinda awkward. I guess its your call on this one since it is a marathon normal (i'd care more if it was a required diff for the spread)

edit - actually changed my mind on this guess its fine
UndeadCapulet
1,070 posts
Joined April 2013
UndeadCapulet
i dont think the current sv/ds settings are an issue, it's actually pretty comfortable for this song's slower pacing. you can watch the 1 replay from the 1 normal-level player that's played this and they dont have any issue lol hobs
Vell
289 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vell
lol, ya I didnt see any issue with it either, I always testplay low diffs with mouse cause I suck with it and I felt the movement was as natural as needed to be
day
15 posts
Joined May 2018
day
great job on the map vell!
brought unique ideas that usual 3 star maps don't really have, the last part with the short sliders and the long one was really cool!
[hard map obv]
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