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Kaneko Chiharu - Lachryma<Re:Queen'M>

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-Roz wrote:

00:00:678 (1) - x:326 y:157 yuh

00:04:364 (2,3) - x:460 y:133 yuh

00:08:050 (3,4,3,4) - Change to more 1/2 sliders, tapping those feel weirdly odd to me ah i merely prefer how it is

00:27:880 (1) - change to maybe http://puu.sh/uHRg8/725a856389.png I'm not a fan of the tight curve x3 i like my sliders t h i c c

00:39:575 (5,1,2,3) - Repeated sliders like http://puu.sh/uHRsk/9597921412.png follow the rhythm better imo as explained in the previous mod "i don't want to put a reverse bounce on a downbeat and the way the melody is broken up into objects is fine. (first part being 3|3|2 and second being 2|2|2|2) "

01:10:336 (4) - has different curve then 01:10:082 (3) might look better if it was the same fixed

01:22:539 (3,4) - ^ this one is the same for me

Not my favorite visually, but daaang the rhythm was on point. appreciate it =w=b

lilligantEX wrote:

01:02:202 (1,1) - The buzz slider would be better if it reversed 1 less time, leaving the blue tick right before 01:06:269 (1) - to be empty but the piano doesn't stop there =w=
01:20:378 (2,3) - to have this have a gap and 01:20:844 (3,1) - these being stacked doesn't really make sense i do it consistently and i don't see why it doesn't make sense (and apparently this was snapped incorrectly so i fixed)
01:49:742 (1,1) - The buzz slider would be better if it reversed 1 less time, leaving the blue tick right before 01:50:505 (1) - to be empty same reason
01:55:081 (1) - Should be closer to 01:54:954 (6) - it's the final jump in the map so i think it fits

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TitleUnicode:Lachryma《Re:Queen'M》
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ArtistUnicode:かねこちはる
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Version:Fizz's ADVANCED
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78,101,109234,2,0,P|123:93|151:90,1,65.9999979858399,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
286,56,109488,2,0,P|241:48|213:45,1,65.9999979858399,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
121,14,109742,6,0,L|76:22,11,32.99999899292,2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
57,20,110505,6,0,B|63:56|53:84|53:84|73:106|73:106|64:141|69:179,1,165,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
101,206,112538,6,0,P|60:208|38:212,2,55,10|10|10,1:2|1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
191,190,112920,2,0,L|184:253,2,55,10|10|10,1:2|1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
262,141,113301,2,0,L|255:86,1,55,10|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
279,228,113555,6,0,P|321:218|352:216,1,55,10|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
417,224,113810,2,0,L|410:278,1,55,10|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
388,145,114064,2,0,L|381:90,1,55,10|4,1:2|1:3,0:0:0:0:
459,42,114318,1,4,1:3:0:0:
459,42,114445,1,4,1:3:0:0:
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Cryptic

Kroytz wrote:

And here I thought I was just fixing some outdated patterns and streams to represent my ideas better, silly me :(
Updating patterns requires changing the circle size? It was originally 4.5 and 7.97*, but you had to change it to 4.6 just to get that sweet nectar known as an 8* map. That's why I'm disappointed. Ranking a 7.97* map is just as hard as ranking an 8.01* map, and it's just as impressive. There's no reason to change your CS for .04 stars, that's just silly.
Topic Starter
Kroytz
Surely there's no reason to change any part of a map cuz that'll make things worse right *cough* Promethean Kings *cough* . While we're at it, I should probably revert the AR to 10 and the OD back to 10 too right? Whether it's a 5* map, 7* map, or 9* map, ranking a map in itself is impressive no matter the SR; for having undergone the time and commitment in seeing it all the way through is achievement. You should know this by now too. But this is kinda pointless talk Cryptic zzz. Map thread is for improvements now, I don't like having theory discussions on every map I submit anymore, it gets tiring after a while.
Vivyanne
M4M

general
a lot of difficulties have unused green lines, perhaps it'd be better to remove those

battle
00:01:440 (2) - why is this the only slider with a red anchor when 00:02:966 (4,2) - dont but it's the same sound
00:40:846 (3) - NC? to give more emphasis since the vocals here jump in
00:52:796 (4) - i think a 1/1 slider would work better here since the instruments are still very busy at this point and just giving it the short end of the stick feels like a big letdown
01:02:202 (1,1) - eventhough it are 2 spinner right after each other, i still think a 1/4 gap between in them is inappropriate due to the player reaction time not being capable of reacting fast enough. would put it on red tick like the other spinners
01:19:997 (1) - feeling like this is a p inappropriate slider due to the intensity of the song changing while the slider's active and thus emphasis is thrown away. i think in this part emphasising the change is more important than following a guitar. perhaps a rythm like this is better for this situation

ametrin

recommended to fix unless intented
perhaps lower the ar a bit. the current ar feels way too high for the SR you have here. i would recommend something like ar5 or 5.5 to fit the overall difficulty of the map better
00:05:254 (3) - NC to emphasise change in the song?
00:16:694 (4,1) - not sure about the gap between those notes. the you decide to really make the rythm a lot easier, eventhough the part before was way more dense and the easier diff is also more dense. i would recommend mapping some notes perhaps on the white ticks to fit the note density better for the intensity
00:23:558 (4,2) - stackpls
00:36:715 (1) - perhaps start this spinner on the red tick? i think the player needs more time to react to the spinner and you made 00:40:974 (1) - start on a red tick too so it looks inconsistent too
00:46:948 (4) - NC for rythm change?
00:51:016 (5) - why such a long slider? this doesn't fit the note density of the notes beforehand at all. you used 00:48:982 (1,2) - first so why change up things so sudden? also NC cuz change xd
01:33:598 (4) - NC for polarity please? i feel like people will still read this as a 1/1 gap since that's what they are used to, so giving a NC can help the player out in the reading
01:42:878 (5) - NC like in the intro danks

fizz
i think the ar in this diff is also a bit too much for the overall difficulty of the map. perhaps lower it to 7 or 7,5 =w=
00:15:169 (3) - why is this not a straight slider when 00:16:694 (3,3) - are? they play the same sound as well so no reason to make it different imo
00:32:457 - why skip this beat? it has clear instruments going on it so what made you skip it? it makes the rythm gap between 00:31:694 (1,2) - a bit awkward too as it's not a 1/2 gap like the rest before D
00:38:813 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - really weird rythm choice imo, there's no clear structure in the 1/2 you are mapping to, making this section feel kinda random as the difference between sliders and circles arent hardly justified by the song itself.
00:52:541 (3) - y u no end on major downbeat and skip it ;w;

ponoyoshi
00:05:254 (1) - imo really lacks emphasis in its current state. i feel like the spacing towards this note should be way higher since it's a major downbeat and a big vocal change but u decide to just ignore that. perhaps some more spacing would be nice to have~
00:15:677 (3) - why is this a single note when 00:17:203 (3) - isnt? makes it inconsistent rythm-wise as the song doesn't undergo real changes but you decide to completely change the note density. perhaps equal them up?
00:28:452 (3) - NC? instrument changes and perhaps it'd be nice to emphasise that
00:36:842 (1,1) - end on an inconsistent note. while 00:36:842 (1) - doesnt end on a downbeat, 00:40:910 (1) - does, which makes the spinners inconsistent. perhaps it'd be nice if you could equal those up to end on consistent notes
01:14:658 (1,2,3) - visual distance between these is inconsistent ;w;
01:54:954 (1) - why not map this as the triple it's supposed to be lo

exhaust
00:19:661 (7) - perhaps it would be better to make two circles out of this instead since now you're ignoring tapping emphasis on a major downbeat
guess there isnt that much wrong here d

alheak
00:04:491 (4,5,6) - why did u stop using sliders here for the same part of music as 00:01:440 (4,5,6,4,5,6) - ? i dont get why you would change the rythm randomly when you did it differently for the rest
00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - i think the high amount of NCs isn't really needed here. the current amount of NCs gives the player an immense amount of pressure that they didnt recieve before, and by the tapping they already get a lot of pressure, so doing the double thing can be a killing thing. consider removing some NCs here
01:22:666 (4) - feel like some hitcircles would be better here to emphasise more of the guitar with consistent tapping.
01:37:285 (1,1,1,1,1,2) - maybe you could polish this part up a little more? currently it just looks really randomly placed. i think making a pentagon out of this stuff would be better
01:43:895 (5) - NC? you're drasticly changing spacing in the stream so perhaps a NC could help out the player to read it

toybot
00:30:677 (1,2) - feels pretty underwhelming compared to things you used beforehand rythm-wise. you used a lot of dense rythms before so having it slow down like this doesnt feel that nice. i think something like this would be more appropriate
01:54:954 - why not map a 1/4 slider here? it'd be nice to get the triple before the big stream too as it is also in the song d

smoothie world
00:04:491 (1,2,3) - why did u decide to map notes here unlike 00:01:440 (1,2) - ? as far as i know it's the same kind of sound so it'd be nice to have it consistently mapped while it lasts
00:44:406 (1,1,1,1) - where are all these NCs for? i dont rly see them usefull as they dont help reading and dont give any emphasis that's needed

<requiem>
00:53:050 (9) - overmapped? i didnt see other diffs having this note so seeing it here makes it feel weird


idk what to do with the top diffs as they all seem to difficult for me to play and there are no real inconsistencies or w/e so wasn't able to point out much

good luck!
Topic Starter
Kroytz
Anxient
EXHAUST

00:01:441 (3,3,3) - NC fam. I wanted these to be collective together

00:12:627 (3,4) - NC this, and then ctrl g. itll properly signal the tone shift. http://puu.sh/uH03L/132ced8e83.jpg Okay

00:15:169 (4,4,4) - NC coz the choir changes "lyrics". Nuu they are combos together

00:24:766 (2) - methinks ctrl g works better here. i dont think you need THIS much impact. also keeps movement speed somewhat consistent with 00:25:592 (1,2,3) - . yes this works

00:33:346 (4,4) - no NC? doesn't need

00:52:541 (9) - NC coz new section + pattern

00:52:541 (1,2,3,4) - tbh id suggest this only coz its weird how the kicksliders are facing upwards but youre moving downwards. just feels really weird to me. try to fix?http://puu.sh/uH0eR/d501c814f3.jpg

00:54:830 (4) - 00:56:863 (4) - not gonna NC coz new section? don't think necessary here

01:02:202 - 01:06:142 - nice speed buildup.

01:18:218 (1) - ctrl g this and NC 01:18:472 (2) - , coz i feel like 01:18:472 (2,3,4) - is its own pattern. plus ctrl g'ing this 01:18:218 (1) - would make the transition alot more smoother. http://puu.sh/uH0nV/a842b98aa9.jpg I mean, it could work just not needed.

01:34:488 (2) - not gonna NC? it IS a new section.

01:38:047 (5) - same as top diff, NC this so we have a identifier that this is a 1/2. I think I fixed the NC here now


Bergy
I'll get to your m4m soon buddy, I haven't forget
I'll respond to requiem later too.

eggs host
00:18:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i would get rid of the reverses here and just make these doubles starting on each white tick so it's easier to read, pic is in alhk's diff's mod in the first box xd I sorta kinda changed this, just the last slider into 3 circles, maybe that's more impactful.
00:26:355 (6) - 1/2 slider? It was to imitate this 00:25:338 (6) - but without the repeat
00:25:592 (1) - same thing i said about requiem xd
01:06:269 (1) - same thing i said about the requiem diff here too
01:35:251 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make these doubles with sliders to emphasize, distinguishing from the ones before? I don't think this one is really needed.

-Roz
00:11:101 (6) - Give it less curve to blanket the next slider better http://puu.sh/uHSYf/c5fa5e9c60.png okay

00:18:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This doesn't feel right to play... Maybe flip horizontally for 00:19:237 (4,5), and change the position for 00:19:576 (6,7)? I think it'll play fine here, might just have to be a reading thing.

00:23:685 (2) - Maybe move to x:169 y:243 or something of the sorts I had thought about it but then the spacing from 2->3 becomes too large and that I don't like.

00:38:813 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - These are alright how they are, but I would change the pattern myself. http://puu.sh/uHTwI/84ea022451.png Same with 01:52:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) maybe taste, I didnt want mines to be super difficult with the 1/2s

00:58:389 (2,3,4) - Rotate 3 degrees? but I like them straight :c

00:59:152 (1,2,3,4) - Make an increasing SV for these, it fits with the piano in the song, unlike 01:02:202 (1,2,3,1) It's possible but I didnt want to have too many SV changes in a short amount of time (in this case all sliders would be SVd). Besides, I like the later parts svd better than the beginning >>

01:19:997 (1) - Move down slightly to line up, my ocd saw it immediately fixed

01:48:979 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Increase spacing to show the difference in rhythm, aka 1/3. I know the sliders before help in the transition, but it still might work better with higher spacing. I just bank on the sliders to help with the transition.

Hightec
exhaust
00:19:661 (7) - perhaps it would be better to make two circles out of this instead since now you're ignoring tapping emphasis on a major downbeat oh good point. fixed this

Thank you everyone~ :)
toybot
replies

Hobbes2 wrote:

Modding this stuff is hard because i cant play it lul

[toybot's GRAVITY]

00:05:254 (1,1) - 00:06:016 (1) - tail and 00:05:254 (1) - dont perfectly overlap, feels like that should be fixed for the benefit of the pattenr // pretty sure its plenty readable, and its at the start of the map so its okay
00:09:576 (1) - NC not necessary?
00:17:330 - I can't hear a sound here, so I don't think a hitcircle is necessary here. 00:17:203 (3) - can be a slider // for the sake of triangles
01:05:251 (1) - is this supposed to be noticeably out of position? looks like it's higher than it should be
01:10:591 (3) - think 2 circles would fit the music better (matches the melody like 01:12:116 (5,6) - )
01:44:827 (3,1,2) - ..idk about this lol, seems like its too hard to read. im bad so another opinion would probably help // idk its hard to make another pattern, i might try sth out

ill mod exhaust after this is qualified

Anxient wrote:

toybot's GRAVITY

00:02:966 (1,2,3) - wh-why? just have them follow the order that they are positioned in? http://puu.sh/uGYxN/683f662e8d.jpg // because that's boring

00:04:745 (2) - might just be a pet peeve but in accordance to what i said earlier, ctrl g this so we have consistency with this part. // didnt accept earlier suggestion anyway

00:08:050 (9) - not gonna NC this? // changed nc scheme to make more sense

00:12:627 (9) - and this? // ^

00:25:338 (2,3) - ctrl g this? so that 00:25:592 (1) - gets more impact. // i want contrast btwn the two patterns here (00:25:338 (2,3,1) - & 00:25:592 (1,2,3,4,5) - )

00:48:474 (1,2,1,2) - try ctrl g'ing this part as such http://puu.sh/uGYNI/8653160008.jpg reasoning: 00:48:474 (1,2) - lack of emphasis = same direction. 00:48:728 (1,2) - both have kicks = alternating directions. // this would conflict with 00:47:457 (1,2,1,2) - 's structure

01:04:235 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - j-just make this a perfect circle? it looks like a callback from the usatei map that i can never pass :c

01:11:353 (3) - either blanket this with 01:11:226 (2) - or change it so it doesnt look like a blanket.

01:12:116 (5) - NC? // not rly necessary

01:44:742 (2,3,1,2,3) - i think its just me but i think you made the curve too early. i think it would be better if you made the curve start from 01:45:166 - instead of 01:44:912 - // eh idk i'm going to get opinions on this stream

01:55:081 - kreygasm.jpg

sdafsf wrote:

toy robot
00:22:414 (8,1) - not a fan of this overlap
00:24:257 (4,5,4) - ^
00:31:949 (1,1,1) - these emphesis seem unjustified to me // just makes it more interesting
01:05:188 (16,1) - looks weird to me... i think this is not lined up correctly

rest of the diffs are too low for me i dont have much experience with that.

love the song and set. ironically the diffs i found most stuff in are my favourite lol. gl! :D

Bergy wrote:

m4m that u ask 4 !! 1
umm this song is cool xd

my map (even tho u already know): https://osu.ppy.sh/s/480298

toybot's grave titty
  1. 00:14:406 (1) - yo this sounds super picky but if u put the anchor slightly to the right it seems to flow with the stream better
  2. 00:25:592 (1) - you could emphasize this since it's louder than the previous two // don't want to change this, see anxient's
  3. 00:27:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - yo this is hot
  4. 00:55:084 (4) - i would move this a lil more to emphasize it // its a slight transition into smaller spacing to reflect the music
  5. 01:33:217 (1,2,1) - you should keep this consistent with other times you mapped this - it might sound slightly different but it's not // but its still a dotted rhythm - which is what im emphasizing
o yea and u definitely changed cs and stuff so u got 8* u squid ass mofo <3

HighTec wrote:

M4M

toybot
00:30:677 (1,2) - feels pretty underwhelming compared to things you used beforehand rythm-wise. you used a lot of dense rythms before so having it slow down like this doesnt feel that nice. i think something like this would be more appropriate // you would've thought i considered this tbh; the mapping is simpler here to reflect the piano in contrast to the guitar, where i bring back those rhythms you suggested
01:54:954 - why not map a 1/4 slider here? it'd be nice to get the triple before the big stream too as it is also in the song d // i feel like that'd be slightly meaner to the player than what i already put lol

idk what to do with the top diffs as they all seem to difficult for me to play and there are no real inconsistencies or w/e so wasn't able to point out much

good luck!

thanks for mods! http://puu.sh/uKUgc/ea0acca30d.osu
Cryptic
@Kroytz: Make sure to respond to HighTec's point on Requiem diff since you only replied to the exhaust.
Topic Starter
Kroytz
Oh, thank you Cryptic-kun I must've overlooked that >A>;;

@HighTec: There is a sound, an audible drum beat. Just.. really soft lol - not sure if it's its own beat or an echo of the former beat. I went back to listen for maybe a minute straight and did hear something on it so uh, I know something exists there lol.

Bergy part 2
00:01:313 (3) - i think this would be better stacked on (2) than the (1) because (2) and (3) are the same sound, yet (3) and (1) are different, so make that distinction I honestly think it could go either way, tried both methods and still same'ish. I don't like how it looks stacked tho.
00:05:254 (1,2,1) - this bugs me how the rhythm is on the white/red/white ticks at 00:05:762 - but you ignored it. i don't even hear a noise on 00:05:953 (2) - , so i think that's totally unnecessary. hmm, I guess I'll just delete this circle since many say its not correct then.
why does 00:14:788 (3,4,5) - start a beat before all the other triples do? this one is on the "and" of 2, while the others are on the "and" of 1 - 00:16:059 (2,3,4) - I see what youre saying. It was a mix of vocal implemented. I can't make an equal rhythm for the first measure since I wanted it to start off as a slider to separate itself from the previous stream. Easing into slider is more comfortable. Still fits to the vocal so this should be fine.
00:25:592 (1,2,3) - this rhythm sounds slightly different than the other one for me. i think this rhythm would be acceptable were it just this rhythm, but when the other rhythm is mapped the exact same way i think there should be some sort of distinction. i would map this one like
this

same with ones like 00:33:728 (1,2,3) - , and so on This what just how I interpreted it at the time. I think the other rhythm can be okay too, just that it wouldn't fit so well with this 1,2,3 theme I got going on. I really tried to do it with the guitar. I don't like how trying to follow different rhythm for a 1/4 guitar beat to make mess with design I have. Both ways are correct I wanna say.
00:27:880 (1) - i think you should have this sliderend clickable since it's the beginning of this little piano run but my slider art :c
00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - um ok
01:02:202 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ummmmmmmm okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk hell yeahhhhh
the rhythm choice of 01:06:523 (2) - seems unintuitive considering there's a strong sound (snare) on the sliderend of this, but the sliderhead really isn't strong at all. i would personally extend the previous slider to the white tick and make a slider starting on the next red tick. huh? I find it pretty intuitive, and plays well to it too. Maybe it's not the most 100% accurate to the song rhythm but follows the passive background beats since the music is much calmer. not so kill yet.
01:18:472 (4) - i would prioritize this note for emphasis rather than 01:18:726 (1) - since the (4) is where the phrase's downbeat (i guess you could say that?) is. I wanted to collect them altogether as a piano. I could make the first 3 circles as a slider to separate the latter stream, maybe I might do that...
01:49:742 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this is really weird to me because the drum roll is 1/4 but the piano is 1/3. since you were following the piano before i want to say you should map this 1/3? but i also think it adds emphasis/variation, especially going into a new yeah lol there's two sounds going on at the same time but I chose to follow the 1/4 drums since its more evident than the piano. Makes it more interesting too to let it fade off as a 1/3 than making them both 1/3s and not letting the ending beats get their moment.
rock time
not really a mod just something i noticed

from like 00:21:524 to 00:24:575 objects seem to be just slightly off time (listen at 50% speed)
dont know if its just me or something but maybe look into fixing it

i added a timing point at 00:21:248 and it sounds a lot better
again, dont know if this is just me but i think you should look into it
srry if this was already brought up in a previous mod

good luck
Topic Starter
Kroytz
This is kinda interesting since it sorta works out but it's not really a consistent way of mixing music (usually itd be done on or before the downbeat not in the middle of a measure). And after a couple measures, without having changed anything, the music goes back to sounding more 'normalized' so that's also a bit strange o,o But I had only followed Fresh Chicken's timing since he knows what he's doing when it comes to SDVX music and his version is ranked for mania.
rock time
good point, hope this wont be much of an issue in the future then.

awesome map, GL on ranking!
Musty
hi

requiem:

01:19:997 (3) - can you make this a new combo ? Because basically you are not supposed to know its going to slow THAT down when you're playing the map sightread lol
PoNo
Poyoshi's Hyper
00:15:677 (3,1) - Stack instead? Oke

00:18:983 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I feel like this stream could improve visually, the straight lines don't fit imo Mhmm, yeah true but i'm lazy to change it, looks actually not totally bad ahah

00:24:957 (3) - There's a pitch change in the guitar here, though nothing shows it. Maybe a repeated 1/2 slider instead? Also at 01:24:446 (3) Mhmmm, Idk that rhythm looks good to me, will change if more ppl want to

00:36:779 (1) - Move to x:0 y:166 k

00:56:863 (7) - Move to x:177 y:341 k

This is probably the funnest one for me to play. Very good job! Thanks bro :D

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Topic Starter
Kroytz
@Musty: I made all the sliders a NC. I wanted there to be some sort of visual design whether theyre all treated under same combo or different. Thanks for pointing it out. (idk if im supposed to kd you lol it's literally a 'NC' mod)
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i forgot to mod it yesterday so xd

[Battle]
01:02:202 (1,1) - idk if new players will not get disorientated by this since they use default skin
01:12:370 (5) - prob should nc here because of the new sound idk
01:14:913 (2,3) - is it just me or did you mess up the blanket abit
01:19:997 (1,2) - idk if new players can read this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
01:26:607 (2) - this just... doesnt really feel right,idk its probably because its either 1/3 or a 1/2
01:40:590 (4) - idk why did you add a red anchor on this slider, imo its better just to curve it like 01:39:827 (3) - because its the same sound and 01:38:302 (1,2) - ultilizes this too (same slider shape for same sound)

[Ametrin]
00:40:338 (5,6) - this might be unreadable for new players due to the fact that 00:38:813 (1,2,3,4) - uses repeat sliders,they will think that 5 and 6 are repeat sliders too
00:44:914 (1,2) - you could probably shape this up a little bit,since theres like piano sounds in this part
01:08:557 (5) - i dont think new players can read this and it looks kinda ugly tbh :/

[Fizz]
00:03:728 (1,2,3) - imo i prefer it to be like this because its more clean
00:40:592 (4,5,1) - imo since 4 and 5 are same sounds
01:13:896 (1,2) - idk why did you not curve 2 because its the same sound as 1 (like what you did on 01:15:421 (1,2) - )
01:48:217 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - woah whats witht he sudden spacing increase

[Poyoshi / hi speed insane xd]
the start feels too fast foa a hyper imo :/
01:02:202 (1,2,3) - i think the slider length is too small
01:08:175 (2,1) - prob should give some distance to the blanket like 01:09:574 (2,3) - but idk
01:21:013 (1,2) - imo but you prob will need to reposition 01:21:776 (3,4,5,6,1) -
01:45:166 (1,3) - should prob make a blanke t
01:49:488 (3) - imo because the sound is kinda progressive idk
01:58:131 (1) - ds is kinda far for a hyper diff

[exhst]
00:52:541 (9) - imo nc because this feels like a new sound
01:24:064 (1,2,3) - not sightreadable for some people tbh ( ^ victim xd)
01:30:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice hi speed extra
01:32:963 (5,6) - imo id flip 5 and 6 because it feels better both song-wise and playability-wise

[ALHeaK]
00:30:423 (4,5,6,7) - imo feels better song wish if this stream is curved
01:02:202 (1,1) - ds kinda feel too far tbh
01:34:488 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks kinda ugly imo

[Toybot]
00:40:338 (1,2,3,4) - idk why but imo
01:53:301 (1,2,1,2) - imo because imo 01:52:538 (1,2) - and 01:53:682 (1,2) - are different sounds and 01:53:682 (1,2) - "pitch" is a bit more lower(?)

[Smoothie]
00:01:313 (1) - why nc? you didnt do the same for 00:02:839 (1,2) -
00:26:863 (2) - imo i prefer it if you use red anchor instead of a normal anchor idk
00:30:423 (1,2,3,4) - why do i feel like this stream is more rough than 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
01:01:101 (6,7) - is it just me or did these 2 circles go up by like 1 or 2 y
01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why did you use small spacing for this one?
01:31:183 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this feels really awkward to aim lo (or prob i just suck at osu xd)
01:54:191 (2) - get it down by 1 y? (1 pixel down)
01:58:131 (3) - prob should nc

[<REKTUIEM>]
00:51:715 (12,13,14) - hmm,is it just me,or i think you never did a rough stream like this unless its a new sound or a new combo,which there are none of them in this part
00:55:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - should prob make the the same like 00:53:304 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - (mirrored) because you used finish hitsound on both of them
01:06:269 (1) - this placement seems too weird imo
01:55:081 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - OUCH THAT STREAM HURTS LMAO

sry for bed engles
Atsuro
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  1. Why are some gders names all caps and others aren't lol
REQUIEM
  1. 00:10:339 (9,10) - I'd reduce the spacing or make these flow more smoothly, it's the first time you do this 1/4 slider thing so i think introducing it in an easier way would be better. Also the slider 10 is on the very edge of the playfield and the most uncomfortable one at that lol.
  2. 00:19:067 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - The drum hitsounds you use in some parts like this one blend too much with the song imo, add something else to give better feedback.
  3. 00:55:719 (3,4,1) - This angle doesn't play that good since you used sharp ones on the other ones, normally you'd be expecting another sharp angle like here 00:53:685 (3,4,1) - or here 00:54:194 (2,3,1) -
  4. 01:18:472 (4) - I think the stream corner + new combo should be here, not only is it a downbeat but also where the song changes and gets more intense.
  5. 01:19:870 (1) - Remove nc? Don't see the reason for it and it makes using it here 01:19:997 (1) - useless for sv change reading.
  6. 01:30:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - Don't really like your rhythm choice here, you map the main melody notes with some slider ends, also on similar parts you make the piano or guitar notes clickable, why not here? 00:30:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The one you used here worked a bit better.

    This is actually really neat, makes me want to improve my speed to be able to play it ;(
MASTER Smoothie
  1. 00:23:431 (4,1) - I think it's better to map this as a triple or not map the blue tick at all, the guitar isn't perfectly synchronized to this and it's a bit unexpected since you don't use rhythms like this on other parts.
  2. 01:22:920 (4,1) - ^Same thing here (although the guitar sounds better here lol)^
  3. 00:34:745 (1,1,1,1) - This pattern doesn't feel good to play imo, it ignores some of the melody and breaks the fast movement and flow you had on the rest of the map in a not so good way, making it feel a bit forced .
  4. 01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why didn't you keep increasing the spacing like in the other ones and instead returned to the original one? The song is still increasing it's intensity so it looked weird to me.
toybot gravity
  • Finally something i can kind of play
  1. 00:48:474 (1,2,1,2) - This kind of circular flow with sliders plays a bit weird at this bpm and spacing, going with something that makes the player do a snapping motion like this 00:47:457 (1,2,1,2) - might be better.
    Excelent
alheak infinite
  • Finally something i can pass
  1. 00:12:627 (6) - Why not divide this into two 1/4 sliders? The song has two similar "strong" beats on the places that would be clicked so yeah
  2. 00:27:118 (3,4,5) - This needs more feedback from the hitsounds, it actually feels like i'm clicking on nothing lol
  3. 00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This looks cool but aaa it's confusing to aim and breaking is easy :v
  4. 01:18:980 (5) - It feels better to remove this repeat and make this 01:19:235 (1) - a double like the other ones imo, it's more consistent and it feels more fitting for the increasing intensity of the song.
  5. 01:42:878 (1,2,3,4) - It's not clear what you're following here. Map the 1/1 piano rhythm here instead? it's the one that sticks out the most, something like you did here 01:48:979 (1,2,3,4) -
EXHAUST
  1. 00:11:101 (6) - Is this slider end unsnapped?
  2. 00:19:576 (6,7,1) - I see what you were trying but it looks a bit weird and unfitting with the aesthetic of the map with all that symmetry, and doesn't work very well in practice. Try with other patterns.
Hyper Ponoyoshi
  1. This feels like it needs a more ar with the excesive overlaping, stacking and overall bpm of the song, something like 9.2
  2. 00:17:203 (3,1) - I don't normally mod blankets but this one really stands out lol
  3. 00:23:431 (4,1) - This doesn't feel right as a stack, the downbeat loses some of it's impact. Place it somewhere around https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7625828
  4. 01:23:556 (3) - This repeat is hard to react to due to having it's repeat arrow hidden by another slider, i'd reposition it in order for it to be visible. This may be unrankable or barely rankable (don't know the criteria for this).
  5. 01:30:166 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This pattern gets too confusing, it's not really good to play, you start with a 1/4 stream so it's natural that if the player sees the same pattern they're going to think it's also a 1/4 gap 01:30:547 (3,1,2,3) - . The low ar doesn't really help too :p

    Please do increase the ar since the map doesn't feel built around difficult to read patterns. The map is actually pretty neat.
Too tired to mod the other ones, the difference in difficulty between advanced and novice did feel a bit big but i'm not the best at judging that :p

Hope this helps, GL
Alheak

Bergy wrote:

m4m that u ask 4 !! 1
umm this song is cool xd

alh k's infinity
  1. 00:06:779 (1,2,3,4,5) - starting on the blue tick with this stream feels realy weird i don't really see why, that's quite common to map streams after a slider on a blue tick
  2. 00:15:677 (5) - space these out a little farther to distinguish 1/1?, same with the next one ok
  3. 00:19:067 (2) - i think this would be a lot easier to play and read if you did a rhythm like i'm passively following the vocals, so this wouldn't fit, and i don't think it is particularly hard to read or play
  4. 00:20:317 (3) - start this on the white tick + add another circle before (4) why
  5. 00:21:524 (1) - it seems unnecessary to emphasize these notes, it just makes it slightly awkward to play and very awkward to look at i don't really share this opinion
  6. 00:25:719 (2) - yo fix this 5% hitsound thing u had there before thats def unrankable. fix it the other times it does that too done
  7. 00:45:741 (10) - idk why you included this circle here, it just makes it really weird to play and read. just extend the reverse slider one more time and leave the other slider there. same with 00:47:774 (3) - and the others reads and plays just fine
  8. 00:59:660 (7) - , 01:00:423 (7) - , etc.: snap these sliders to 1/3 not 1/4 fixed
  9. 01:19:785 (3) - what is this snapping? this should be snapped to the white tick. just snap it like the guitar doesn't play on the white tick

HighTec wrote:

M4M

alheak
00:04:491 (4,5,6) - why did u stop using sliders here for the same part of music as 00:01:440 (4,5,6,4,5,6) - ? i dont get why you would change the rythm randomly when you did it differently for the rest not too sure myself, changed
00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - i think the high amount of NCs isn't really needed here. the current amount of NCs gives the player an immense amount of pressure that they didnt recieve before, and by the tapping they already get a lot of pressure, so doing the double thing can be a killing thing. consider removing some NCs here wat
01:22:666 (4) - feel like some hitcircles would be better here to emphasise more of the guitar with consistent tapping. that was done on purpose to add a bit of tension here, I think it fits the guitar well
01:37:285 (1,1,1,1,1,2) - maybe you could polish this part up a little more? currently it just looks really randomly placed. i think making a pentagon out of this stuff would be better alright
01:43:895 (5) - NC? you're drasticly changing spacing in the stream so perhaps a NC could help out the player to read it i don't think it's necessary, i prefer keeping the NCs consistent if I can

idk what to do with the top diffs as they all seem to difficult for me to play and there are no real inconsistencies or w/e so wasn't able to point out much

good luck!

3312 wrote:

i forgot to mod it yesterday so xd

[ALHeaK]
00:30:423 (4,5,6,7) - imo feels better song wish if this stream is curved alright
01:02:202 (1,1) - ds kinda feel too far tbh nah its fine
01:34:488 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks kinda ugly imo idk

sry for bed engles

Atsuro wrote:

alheak infinite
  • Finally something i can pass
  1. 00:12:627 (6) - Why not divide this into two 1/4 sliders? The song has two similar "strong" beats on the places that would be clicked so yeah good idea
  2. 00:27:118 (3,4,5) - This needs more feedback from the hitsounds, it actually feels like i'm clicking on nothing lol i guess so yes
  3. 00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This looks cool but aaa it's confusing to aim and breaking is easy :v literally how
  4. 01:18:980 (5) - It feels better to remove this repeat and make this 01:19:235 (1) - a double like the other ones imo, it's more consistent and it feels more fitting for the increasing intensity of the song. indeed
  5. 01:42:878 (1,2,3,4) - It's not clear what you're following here. Map the 1/1 piano rhythm here instead? it's the one that sticks out the most, something like you did here 01:48:979 (1,2,3,4) - yes changed
Hope this helps, GL
Thanks to all!

update
Ametrin
sorry for late reply... too busy to play osu ;w;
no reply = fixed
hobbes2
Ametrin's NOVICE
00:24:448 (5,1) - would not use 1/2 stacks in this map. Earlier you were using 1/1 stacks, using both in the same map in a pretty similar area of the map can be very confusing. 1/1 and 1/2 stack are at different part
00:28:643 (1) - this combo has too much 1/2 in a row for a normal, would tone it down, you could change a 1/2 slider to a circle or find another away to make it less dense if someone else say it's too intense then i'll change ;w;
00:38:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - way way wayyy too much 1/2 in a row for a normal. another problem here is that you only have a 1/1 gap after the spinner when for a normal it's required to have at least 2. And since the BPM is so high, you may even want more. I would scrap this pattern altogether to be honest.
00:40:974 (1,1) - again, you need at least 2 beats of recovery (possibly more) for a normal. same for 01:02:202 (1,1) and 01:50:505 (1,1) -
00:46:948 (4) - increased spacing intentional?
01:33:217 (3,4) - dont like this, the gap is 3/4 but its impossible for the player to read that from the current layout. at best the player might read this as a 1/1 gap and because of slider leneniency might not break combo, but i recommend making 01:33:217 (3) - a reverse
music here is clear enough. add a NC here.
01:37:285 (1,2,3) - ^ maybe it would be better if these weren't overlapping. ds here... orz
01:45:929 (5,6,7) - similar to earlier, not advisable to use 1/2 stacks right after using 1/1 stacks want make kiai part more difficult
01:52:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, way too much 1/2 in a row. simplify this. ^
-Roz
00:09:830 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move down slightly. Maybe to x:71 y:85

00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - I feel like something can be done here to improve visuals, but I tried some different things and couldn't find an alternative myself. Maybe you can? can't ;w; just keep the same as 00:09:830 (1,2) -

00:25:592 (3) - Move to x:127 y:270

00:30:677 (1,2) - Tilt slightly to the left and right, just preference

00:34:999 (2,3,4) - More 1/2 repeated sliders instead? There's sounds on the red ticks, but if you prefer it undermapped that's okay it's a normal diff so just make it like this

00:53:304 to 01:02:202 - For the notes like 00:53:558 (2,3) and 00:55:592 (2,3) throughout the section, maybe use more stacked notes? 00:24:448 (5,1) changed some
and 00:26:482 (4,1) earlier in the song used this, along with some later in the song.

Trying to find things to potentially change with this set is harrrrd! Hope some of these make sense! x.x
lilligantEX
00:27:118 (2) - This is a little hard to hear and would throw a player off since this is a low difficulty i think it's ok? still 1/1
00:36:715 (1,1) - gap between these two is too short for a 2.5*
00:40:974 (1,1) - ^
01:02:202 (1,1) - ^
01:37:285 (1,2,3) - these would be hard to read for a player at this level music here is clear enough?
01:50:505 (1,1) - gap between these two is too short for a 2.5*
HighTec
recommended to fix unless intented all follow the ds so i don't know why……
perhaps lower the ar a bit. the current ar feels way too high for the SR you have here. i would recommend something like ar5 or 5.5 to fit the overall difficulty of the map better
00:05:254 (3) - NC to emphasise change in the song?
00:16:694 (4,1) - not sure about the gap between those notes. the you decide to really make the rythm a lot easier, eventhough the part before was way more dense and the easier diff is also more dense. i would recommend mapping some notes perhaps on the white ticks to fit the note density better for the intensity
00:23:558 (4,2) - stackpls
00:36:715 (1) - perhaps start this spinner on the red tick? i think the player needs more time to react to the spinner and you made 00:40:974 (1) - start on a red tick too so it looks inconsistent too all on white tick
00:46:948 (4) - NC for rythm change? no need
00:51:016 (5) - why such a long slider? this doesn't fit the note density of the notes beforehand at all. you used 00:48:982 (1,2) - first so why change up things so sudden? also NC cuz change xd umm...relax here? anyway NC is a good idea
01:33:598 (4) - NC for polarity please? i feel like people will still read this as a 1/1 gap since that's what they are used to, so giving a NC can help the player out in the reading
01:42:878 (5) - NC like in the intro danks
3312
00:40:338 (5,6) - this might be unreadable for new players due to the fact that 00:38:813 (1,2,3,4) - uses repeat sliders,they will think that 5 and 6 are repeat sliders emphasize the tone here
00:44:914 (1,2) - you could probably shape this up a little bit,since theres like piano sounds in this part i don't want to follow the piano here since it is too intense
01:08:557 (5) - i dont think new players can read this and it looks kinda ugly tbh :/ maybe not that hard even in 2.5* diff
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Topic Starter
Kroytz

3312 wrote:

i forgot to mod it yesterday so xd

[exhst]
00:52:541 (9) - imo nc because this feels like a new sound not needed but I NC'd because the combo was much larger than the others
01:24:064 (1,2,3) - not sightreadable for some people tbh ( ^ victim xd) ehh dont judge off sightread, a map can be played more than once to get used to a pattern, this plays fine for others ive seen.
01:30:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice hi speed extra thx
01:32:963 (5,6) - imo id flip 5 and 6 because it feels better both song-wise and playability-wise ooh nice one, fixed.

[<REKTUIEM>]
00:51:715 (12,13,14) - hmm,is it just me,or i think you never did a rough stream like this unless its a new sound or a new combo,which there are none of them in this part there's no way to transition well from here but it's a design thing too.
00:55:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - should prob make the the same like 00:53:304 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - (mirrored) because you used finish hitsound on both of them I guess you could do it that way for consistency, i wasn't really focusing on keeping things completely parallel for this.
01:06:269 (1) - this placement seems too weird imo I was looking at (1,2,1) in DS measures so this can get a bit more emphasis, otherwise it'd be even weirder to keep it closer with the stream.
01:55:081 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - OUCH THAT STREAM HURTS LMAO x3

sry for bed engles

Atsuro wrote:

General
  1. Why are some gders names all caps and others aren't lol yeah BATTLE and ALHK stop being edgy xd. On the real, it might look better as "Battle" and "Alheak" but your choice~
REQUIEM
  1. 00:10:339 (9,10) - I'd reduce the spacing or make these flow more smoothly, it's the first time you do this 1/4 slider thing so i think introducing it in an easier way would be better. Also the slider 10 is on the very edge of the playfield and the most uncomfortable one at that lol. what may feel uncomfortable to some people may be comfort to another, but I think this'll be okay.
  2. 00:19:067 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - The drum hitsounds you use in some parts like this one blend too much with the song imo, add something else to give better feedback. I thought they were fitting enough :<
  3. 00:55:719 (3,4,1) - This angle doesn't play that good since you used sharp ones on the other ones, normally you'd be expecting another sharp angle like here 00:53:685 (3,4,1) - or here 00:54:194 (2,3,1) - I guess this is kind of true but I was moreso looking at the direction of where the circles would end up so it moves right-to-left
  4. 01:18:472 (4) - I think the stream corner + new combo should be here, not only is it a downbeat but also where the song changes and gets more intense. this is true. fixed it~
  5. 01:19:870 (1) - Remove nc? Don't see the reason for it and it makes using it here 01:19:997 (1) - useless for sv change reading. a e s t h e t i c s. i'll change if need be.
  6. 01:30:293 (2,3,4,5,6) - Don't really like your rhythm choice here, you map the main melody notes with some slider ends, also on similar parts you make the piano or guitar notes clickable, why not here? 00:30:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The one you used here worked a bit better. I did it more for intensity purposes. I thought about using triples but idk, this kiai should be more powerful somehow.

    This is actually really neat, makes me want to improve my speed to be able to play it ;(
EXHAUST
  1. 00:11:101 (6) - Is this slider end unsnapped? woops good catch, thx
  2. 00:19:576 (6,7,1) - I see what you were trying but it looks a bit weird and unfitting with the aesthetic of the map with all that symmetry, and doesn't work very well in practice. Try with other patterns. I did it this way only because that last beats gets a big emphasis, I can't copy the other sliders because it'll lack it ;^;

ty ty~!
PoNo

HighTec wrote:

M4M

general
a lot of difficulties have unused green lines, perhaps it'd be better to remove those
ponoyoshi
00:05:254 (1) - imo really lacks emphasis in its current state. i feel like the spacing towards this note should be way higher since it's a major downbeat and a big vocal change but u decide to just ignore that. perhaps some more spacing would be nice to have~ Increased
00:15:677 (3) - why is this a single note when 00:17:203 (3) - isnt? makes it inconsistent rythm-wise as the song doesn't undergo real changes but you decide to completely change the note density. perhaps equal them up? Because the vocals in the background are not doing the same way, like for 00:15:677 (3) - its a clean stop instead of a long vocal at 00:17:203 (3) -
00:28:452 (3) - NC? instrument changes and perhaps it'd be nice to emphasise that Yes
00:36:842 (1,1) - end on an inconsistent note. while 00:36:842 (1) - doesnt end on a downbeat, 00:40:910 (1) - does, which makes the spinners inconsistent. perhaps it'd be nice if you could equal those up to end on consistent notes True but imo that constent rythm is way better for the player to know what he have to tap, If I follow the right rythm here this could be painfull at this difficulty to manage a complex rythmic
01:14:658 (1,2,3) - visual distance between these is inconsistent ;w; huuuh, thats kinda nazi :D
01:54:954 (1) - why not map this as the triple it's supposed to be lo Idk, placing a triple here is pretty hard cause it will hide the reverse and could be a stupid break for the player, also I think its good like that

Atsuro wrote:

General
  1. Why are some gders names all caps and others aren't lol
Hyper Ponoyoshi
  1. This feels like it needs a more ar with the excesive overlaping, stacking and overall bpm of the song, something like 9.2 Ok ok
  2. 00:17:203 (3,1) - I don't normally mod blankets but this one really stands out lol

    3312 wrote:

    i forgot to mod it yesterday so xd Woops
  3. 00:23:431 (4,1) - This doesn't feel right as a stack, the downbeat loses some of it's impact. Place it somewhere around https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7625828 Agreed
  4. 01:23:556 (3) - This repeat is hard to react to due to having it's repeat arrow hidden by another slider, i'd reposition it in order for it to be visible. This may be unrankable or barely rankable (don't know the criteria for this). Fixed
  5. 01:30:166 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This pattern gets too confusing, it's not really good to play, you start with a 1/4 stream so it's natural that if the player sees the same pattern they're going to think it's also a 1/4 gap 01:30:547 (3,1,2,3) - . The low ar doesn't really help too :p There is the same rythm on the begin of the map, and I don't really think it must be changed, its hard true, but not unplayable

    Please do increase the ar since the map doesn't feel built around difficult to read patterns. The map is actually pretty neat.
Too tired to mod the other ones, the difference in difficulty between advanced and novice did feel a bit big but i'm not the best at judging that :p

Hope this helps, GL
-Visceral-
[spoiler=Hobbes2][SW's MASTER]

00:01:313 (1,1) - vs 00:02:839 (1,2) - inconsistent NCing
00:17:711 (2) - vocal kinda has a held thing starting on 00:17:839 - so a better rhythm would probably be a ctrlg of 00:17:711 (2,3) - i like how it is rn
00:22:287 (1,2,3,4,1) - idk if ppl at this diff level can just naturally read this as 1/3 but theres not really any way of distinguishing this from a 1/4 stream it is 1/4 and i think its readable

I guess my biggest concern is that the 1/3 streams were just so similar to the 1/4 ones. i feel like because they're slower you can do more with them (like have more streamjumps, space out parts, etc)[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Anxient]NC rules apply with the <REQUIEM> diff, so pls look at it as well.

00:01:313 (1) - now i know that you did this for like the entire section but i feel like placing this here is kinda weird, since its kinda hidden. consider stacking? or at least moving it to a place where it wouldnt be so hard to find.

00:07:288 (1,2,3) - mmm, as it is it looks like a deformed circle. try to make it more perfect? ;/ it worked well with this. 00:08:813 (1,2,3) -

00:19:745 (1) - if i were you id place this on a similar fashion as i did with the pattern. something like this? http://puu.sh/uGXyS/2a6cea0c6b.jpg

00:20:254 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:270 (1,2,3,4) - i think i would prefer them as curved streams because the song part isnt really rigid if that made sense, heres a few examples. http://puu.sh/uGXIs/42e2cd4dcf.jpg, http://puu.sh/uGXJd/c6d8ea80df.jpg. small changes, but i think it carries more life than what we have currently.

00:24:957 (1) - try ctrl g-ing this. i think itll give (1) more impact and help relieve that unecessarily huge DS 00:25:211 (2) - I prefer the current

00:27:626 (9) - not gonna NC this?

00:30:423 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think you could make this stream more neater.

00:34:745 (1,1,1,1) - this is kinda out of place and plays weird as well. id appreciate an explanation as to why this is the way it is lmao. but i still strongly urge you to remap this into something that blends in with the map better. nah i think it fits

00:36:651 (7,1) - ouch. ?

00:44:406 (1,1,1,1) - NC spam? why tho? i think regular combos give it better continuity? i dont think im using the term correctly. its pretty and it fits imo

00:47:965 (1) -i suggest a rhythm change. try working with this rhythm http://puu.sh/uGY59/47ac02742b.jpg, i think itll play better and give more life rather than having 2 big 1/4 sliders. also gives me a reason to get rid of this 00:48:919 (3) -

01:02:202 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - compared to 00:59:152 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i find it weird that the contrast in movement speed of the cursor is so wide lol. like, with the streams its super chill and builduppy, but with the 1/4, suddenly you have to move the cursor at really hihg speeds just to keep up. i think this is an issue. try to find a way to make the part more chill? ofc, what we currently have is fine, its just that its so sudden ya'know?

01:31:183 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - now the movement is too low! compared to the part, this is really slow! http://puu.sh/uGYn5/b194ef97d4.jpg try doing this instead, it fits the mood better. ctrl g ever slider.

01:53:682 (1,2,3) - i think you should at least have this move xd[/spoiler]

[spoiler=idk lol i lost track 3]smoothie master
00:01:313 (1,1) - id remove one of the 2 ncs. you didnt even nc both here 00:02:839 (1,2) -
00:10:593 (1,2) - not a fan of this overlap. looks bad if you cant see the whole head imo i like it :(
00:30:423 (1,2,3,4,1) - this curve looks ugly D: i think its beautiful
00:34:999 (1,1,1) - thats a lot of ignored sounds i like how it is rn
00:40:846 (5) - nc
00:44:914 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - these curves look ugly to me. looks like someone tried to convert a slider that was partially off screen. make the curve cleaner :C it looks curvy to me heck
00:46:948 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ not sure if its by choice but i dont think it looks nice
00:48:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - here its fine
01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not sure why the spacing gets lower here again. to me the pitch of the piano only gets higher
01:08:811 (1,2) - i heard the sound on 2 but since you mapped the piano as jumps maybe map this sound with a slider
01:15:675 (2,1) - i tried to bot blanket mod but this one stood out to me too much
01:20:759 (3,4,5,6,1) - not a fan of this curve looks good to me
01:28:895 (4,1) - missed some sounds here. kicksliders would fit imo
01:53:682 (1,2,3) - i dont feel the anti jumps here i do
01:54:064 (1,2,3,4) - i think itd be cool if those were just a straight line since the 5th beat is empty and also feel like this. the emphesis on 4 seems out of place.
01:58:131 (3) - nc[/spoiler]

[spoiler=BERGER HI]00:34:745 (1,1,1) - if u wanna make this rly cancer but also rly good u could put a circle on the blue tick before every slider and make the sv faster to keep the same length so the sliders loop back on themselves holy heck naw
00:48:919 (3) - im almost sure no ones gonna read this correctly nobody has misread
00:52:987 (8) - it would be cool if u put a slow sv slider here nah i like the one rn
01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this should deeeefinitely be the most spaced since it's the last repetition in the phrase and the loudest
01:12:116 (5) - space this a little farther to distinguish 1/1 gap before i think its k
01:26:607 (1) - yo u wanna put like sliders or something right here for the irregular rhythm eh its not too irregular
01:34:107 (4,5) - you could probably just make this a triple ending on the white tick since theres a loud sound there
01:38:174 (2) - space these a little closer? or the other ones a little farther idk[/spoiler]

[spoiler=teccy]smoothie world
00:04:491 (1,2,3) - why did u decide to map notes here unlike 00:01:440 (1,2) - ? as far as i know it's the same kind of sound so it'd be nice to have it consistently mapped while it lasts rhythm variation and i think they are more prominent
00:44:406 (1,1,1,1) - where are all these NCs for? i dont rly see them usefull as they dont help reading and dont give any emphasis that's needed :( i like em[/spoiler]

[spoiler=eyet]00:01:313 (1) - why nc? you didnt do the same for 00:02:839 (1,2) -
00:26:863 (2) - imo i prefer it if you use red anchor instead of a normal anchor idk nah i like this one better
00:30:423 (1,2,3,4) - why do i feel like this stream is more rough than 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i dont think it is
01:01:101 (6,7) - is it just me or did these 2 circles go up by like 1 or 2 y
01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why did you use small spacing for this one?
01:31:183 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this feels really awkward to aim lo (or prob i just suck at osu xd) nah its aight
01:54:191 (2) - get it down by 1 y? (1 pixel down)
01:58:131 (3) - prob should nc[/spoiler]

[spoiler=atsurorroiroi]00:23:431 (4,1) - I think it's better to map this as a triple or not map the blue tick at all, the guitar isn't perfectly synchronized to this and it's a bit unexpected since you don't use rhythms like this on other parts. i think its not hard to read
01:22:920 (4,1) - ^Same thing here (although the guitar sounds better here lol)^ same
00:34:745 (1,1,1,1) - This pattern doesn't feel good to play imo, it ignores some of the melody and breaks the fast movement and flow you had on the rest of the map in a not so good way, making it feel a bit forced . nah i like it D:
01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why didn't you keep increasing the spacing like in the other ones and instead returned to the original one? The song is still increasing it's intensity so it looked weird to me.[/spoiler]

no comment means its fixed c: ty
Topic Starter
Kroytz
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Topic Starter
Kroytz
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Izzywing
@Ametrin, you completely ignored / didn't respond to my point about spinner recovery time. Since your diff functions as the normal/advanced of the set, I really suggest you have at least 2 beats of recovery after the spinner to give players appropriate recovery time, especially for this high BPM. This would apply the things like 00:37:033 (1,1) -

00:41:101 (1,1) - MIGHT be fine because its at least 1.5 beats, but it still might not be enough.

I also still think that 00:38:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - is way too excessive and also kinda challenging to read, rhythm density aside. The way the pattern is setup, it's very easy for the player to miss that 00:40:338 (5,6) - don't have repeats on them. 01:52:538 (1) - Has a similar problem. Consider http://puu.sh/vLAIc/0fb78e61f0.jpg this rhythm instead (basically use 1/1 sliders instead of repeats), it's still the longest string of 1/2 in the map which fits the intensity, but it solves the density and readability issues.

00:36:397 (5) - consider using a single reverse slider and then putting a circle on 00:36:779 - instead. better rhythm, also it avoids a double repeat 1/2 slider which I wouldn't recommend in this kind of diff

00:59:787 (2) - Distance spacing error

01:18:472 (4) - NC

01:23:937 (5,1,2) - Not a fan of this setup, very misreading to read because 2 looks like it's close to 1 visually, but the gap on the timeline does not reflect this.

01:27:115 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - Consider switching these rhythms! The measure at 01:28:132 - has the distinct 4 sounds that would fit 4 circles a lot better than the measure at 01:27:115 - does.

I recommend going through your diff and making sure your NCs are correct. They seem kinda odd in places, but it might because you have some kinda pattern going on.
Ametrin

Hobbes2 wrote:

@Ametrin, you completely ignored / didn't respond to my point about spinner recovery time. Since your diff functions as the normal/advanced of the set, I really suggest you have at least 2 beats of recovery after the spinner to give players appropriate recovery time, especially for this high BPM. This would apply the things like 00:37:033 (1,1) -

00:41:101 (1,1) - MIGHT be fine because its at least 1.5 beats, but it still might not be enough.

I also still think that 00:38:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - is way too excessive and also kinda challenging to read, rhythm density aside. The way the pattern is setup, it's very easy for the player to miss that 00:40:338 (5,6) - don't have repeats on them. 01:52:538 (1) - Has a similar problem. Consider http://puu.sh/vLAIc/0fb78e61f0.jpg this rhythm instead (basically use 1/1 sliders instead of repeats), it's still the longest string of 1/2 in the map which fits the intensity, but it solves the density and readability issues.

00:36:397 (5) - consider using a single reverse slider and then putting a circle on 00:36:779 - instead. better rhythm, also it avoids a double repeat 1/2 slider which I wouldn't recommend in this kind of diff

00:59:787 (2) - Distance spacing error

01:18:472 (4) - NC

01:23:937 (5,1,2) - Not a fan of this setup, very misreading to read because 2 looks like it's close to 1 visually, but the gap on the timeline does not reflect this.

01:27:115 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - Consider switching these rhythms! The measure at 01:28:132 - has the distinct 4 sounds that would fit 4 circles a lot better than the measure at 01:27:115 - does. i think this will be ok

I recommend going through your diff and making sure your NCs are correct. They seem kinda odd in places, but it might because you have some kinda pattern going on.
all fixed
sorry for late reply :o



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yjshin
I have nothing to contribute but i just wanted to say I LOVE THIS SONG AND ALHK'S INFINITE IS FUN TO PLAY
Alheak
:3

thanks
Battle
H2

Hobbes2 wrote:

[Battle's BASIC]

00:03:728 (1,3) - blanket here would actually look pretty cool I tend to prefer having it to the side so no
00:05:254 (3) - looks like you had a decent curve here and then ctrl+g'd it or smth cos this looks pretty ugly. the slider right after looks fine. Better?
00:07:542 (3) - starting here there's a lot of sliders in a row, and for the easiest diff its best to avoid long slider only sections. would either have a pause or a circle somewhere to make it easier mmm I kind of like making my low diffs pretty dense rhythm-wise, while it puts more strain on the player it also provides a more interesting experience, the music overall is pretty intense so downplaying it even on the lowest diff would leave the newer users unsatisfied, don't you think?
00:20:508 - two timing lines with inconsistent kiai settings Apparently Kroytz fixed that lol
00:40:846 (3) - the wave portion of this slidershape can be improved, looks a bit messed up right after the second red node
00:54:321 (3) - mm this bpm is pretty fast so im not a big fan of 1/2 sliders for the easiest diff. for this part of the music you can do a red tick rhythm like this - http://imgur.com/a/wMD3m I'm kinda eh about this, it just ended up as this being the lowest diff so in the superficial context it looks pretty bad, however following your rhythm would be going against what I'm following, leading to rhythmic dissonance as to what is being followed. I feel that this would be more harmful than helpful, after all this is a high-end almost 2* diff so it's bound to be a bit more complex than say, a traditional easy, it's a mid-range normal. However since the bpm is so high, a typical normal would be a bit hard to pull off, so it's a nice combination of easy and normal elements without being too strenuous
01:09:319 (3) - combing should reset here since its beginning of a new phrase
01:32:200 (1,2) - this might cause some reading confusion, while the DS is proper, the circle is still kinda close to 01:32:200 (1) - itself, so a player might misinterpret this as 1/1 Made straighter so it's visually more obvious of the gap

p gud n stuf

btw ill finish my hard for you soon lol

-R

-Roz wrote:

NM from my queueeeee

Battle's BASIC
I feel like this difficulty has way too high of a SV for a basic difficulty. Are you guys thinking about making a difficulty easier then this? Well,
in context when Kroytz was like "make a gd" there were no other low diffs to go off of for the base SV, so I picked a fairly low one, apparently it was too high but still, I feel like the amount of curved and elbow slides make up for the SVs for the most part considering they help ease the quick movement a bit


00:23:050 (2) - Maybe tilt 3 degrees? mm I like straight slightly curved sliders better though

00:33:474 (2) - Move to x:381 y:236. To me this looks better, and keeps roughly the same distance Eh, I feel like the blanket is too forced,
either way though I wanted it to mirror what 00:24:575 (1,2,3) - does


00:58:897 (4,1,2,3,4) - Move to x:189 y:148, very slight problem but you might want to change because it keeps the 0.80x spacing I don't really see what this is suggesting, moving all of those theres basically puts it offscreen so yeah lol

01:09:319 (3,4,1) - Maybe tilt these by 3 degrees. MY STRAIGHT LINE OCD IS GOING AT IT AGAIN cx It's straight enough, I see no difference

Most of the changes here barely matter, but then again the difficulty is near perfect. Very nice job.

No idea how to make this name shorter so lol

lilligantEX wrote:

From modding queue

BATTLE's BASIC

00:12:881 (1) - dangerously close to the score stuff, should move down It's pretty far from the scoreboard on the default skin though
00:18:983 (3) - This is a little hard to hear and would throw a player off since this is a low difficulty
00:27:118 (2) - ^ This one is pretty audible so I think it's fine

HT

HighTec wrote:

M4M
battle
00:01:440 (2) - why is this the only slider with a red anchor when 00:02:966 (4,2) - dont but it's the same sound It's only visual interest lol
00:40:846 (3) - NC? to give more emphasis since the vocals here jump in
00:52:796 (4) - i think a 1/1 slider would work better here since the instruments are still very busy at this point and just giving it the short end of the stick feels like a big letdown I think having a pause is appropriate here, since the music pauses, also considering this comes from a long slider string I feel it's more than necessary to recover a little
01:02:202 (1,1) - eventhough it are 2 spinner right after each other, i still think a 1/4 gap between in them is inappropriate due to the player reaction time not being capable of reacting fast enough. would put it on red tick like the other spinners
01:19:997 (1) - feeling like this is a p inappropriate slider due to the intensity of the song changing while the slider's active and thus emphasis is thrown away. i think in this part emphasising the change is more important than following a guitar. perhaps a rythm like this is better for this situation Well, I see your point, but there's also the fact that I'm trying to keep it fairly simplified for the sake of difficulty, while it wouldn't add to much, I think it's fine to have it similar to the first kiai, it's a pitch higher yeah, but other than that it's fairly the same guitar-wise

#s

3312 wrote:

i forgot to mod it yesterday so xd

[Battle]
01:02:202 (1,1) - idk if new players will not get disorientated by this since they use default skin
01:12:370 (5) - prob should nc here because of the new sound idk
01:14:913 (2,3) - is it just me or did you mess up the blanket abit
01:19:997 (1,2) - idk if new players can read this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's readable dw lol
01:26:607 (2) - this just... doesnt really feel right,idk its probably because its either 1/3 or a 1/2 Soooo in reality this is 1/3, however due to difficulty constrictions that isn't really possible, while maintaining the rhythmic flow here, I felt that a 1/1 slider would be best suited to go along with the music
01:40:590 (4) - idk why did you add a red anchor on this slider, imo its better just to curve it like 01:39:827 (3) - because its the same sound and 01:38:302 (1,2) - ultilizes this too (same slider shape for same sound) v i s u a l i n t e r e s t

lol
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438,193,79743,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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120,352,82539,2,0,P|111:266|130:238,1,110,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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123,113,83810,1,4,3:0:0:0:
64,178,84064,6,0,B|41:252|41:252|64:342,1,165,6|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,277,84827,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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491,234,85844,1,10,0:0:0:0:
422,178,86098,6,0,P|410:91|426:60,1,110,14|14,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,24,86607,2,0,B|293:45|293:45|224:28,1,110,10|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,25,87115,2,0,B|176:84|176:84|151:133|151:133|178:199|178:199|152:269|152:269|179:335,1,330,10|2,0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
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176,329,89149,2,0,L|104:152,2,165,4|2|6,3:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
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455,147,91946,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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259,291,92963,1,2,0:0:0:0:
183,336,93217,2,0,B|106:355|106:355|24:328,1,165,6|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,196,93980,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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443,256,96268,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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blue denied
purple is either or
green ok
no reply fixed
Nao Tomori
[requiem]
00:00:678 (1,3) - could be nicer if these are visually spaced the same

00:08:813 (9,10,11,12) - here there is clearly 2 notes in the melody. since you used kicksliders to represent that in places like 00:12:627 (9,10) - could be nice to do it here too.

00:09:576 (1,2,3,4) -same thing

00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - the snapping on this thing is completely off and noticeably so. i recommend snapping it properly, as dumb as it looks on timeline. this applies to all diffs!

00:23:558 (1,2,3,4) - the size of these jumps is way too similar to 00:23:050 (3,4,5) - imo. there is no guitar melody on them, so they should be differentiated from the previous combo.
00:29:279 (5) - same here kinda, there isnt reason for this one to be so large considering there is no melody on it

00:25:592 (1,2,3) - this snapping seems fucky..00:25:783 (2) - should actually be on the 1/6th beat at 00:25:762 -

00:37:287 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - to be honest these jumps look completely randomly placed. was there some form of organization that i missed? there doesnt look like any type of consnistent motion, similar direction of movement, whatever...

00:48:092 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i dont hear anything that suggests this type of patterning. what were you following here?

00:53:813 (4) - feels like it should be a slider end. no melody even though that's the most dominant part by far
00:55:846 (4) - same
00:57:753 (3) - same
even removing these circles seems much better to me since it leaves the 1/1 gap that shows the similarity between 00:55:338 (1) - or 00:55:974 (1) - etc. since they're paired in the song, should be mapped the same way too, with a 1/1 gap into them.

01:06:523 (2,3) - definitely sounds like a rhythm like http://puu.sh/w3GL5/4ae55995f5.jpg in the drums instead. or 3/4 slider for the 2nd one, whatever, but that red tick snare is much better here since there isnt a melody on the white tick like 01:09:574 (2,3) -

01:13:387 (2) - here i know youre following the melody but having a finish be unclickable just feels kinda lame.

01:13:896 (1,2) - ctrl g on this seems (to me) to follow the vocals a bit better.

01:22:030 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - doesnt make sense to have direction change on 234 etc cuz its in the same

01:38:047 (5,6) - could be cool to do something with kicksliders to represent how the song changed (like these ones are more abrupt basically)

01:38:303 (1,2,3) - imo you should nerf the spacing on these quieter piano streams since its like super quiet, then it could be visually different from the 123 123 123 stuff as well

01:41:268 (3,1) - this didnt seem very impactful since there isnt really a direction change on 1, i think it should be distinguished more like at the other times

01:46:437 - could be cool to do something with the background melody around here

01:58:131 (1) - kinda seems like it should be separated visually from the stream since its a completely different sound
[smoothie world]
00:04:364 (3,1) - seems kinda big, how about putting 3 in the blanket of 00:03:728 (1) -
00:08:813 (1,2) - seems like kickslider would work here better since melody blah blah, you did the same thing later at 00:09:576 (3,4) -
00:14:406 (1,2,3) - i think that 00:15:169 (1,2,3) - 12 should probably also be a slider since its the same sound in the vocals as 3, so it would be paired together in the map. you do it here at 00:16:694 (1,2) - and it works nicely, so might as well do it at the other 2 spots as well.
00:22:287 (1,2,3,4,1) - unsnapped
00:22:796 (3,4) - this is pretty overspaced imo considering that 4 doesnt have a melody note on it
00:23:495 (1) - uhh idk about this. there's still a pretty loud sound on the white tick and i think that's where the sound you followed settles into the note as well.
00:23:876 (3) - dont see why this trple is here. the red tick it emphasizes isnt strong so its kinda weird o.o
i also think having a clickable burst on 00:24:067 (1,2,3) - and then leaving the blue tick 00:24:385 - unclickable cuz the drums stop would be nice
00:28:389 (1,2,3,4,1) - i dont think these should be spaced so much higher than the ones at the start of the kiai. it's up to interpretation ofc, but i dont think that this part is that much more intense than the guitar thing at the start of the kiai.
00:30:868 (2,3) - ctrl g on this follows the melody a lot better. i think putting a piano note on the slider end and following a fairly unimportant drum sound is not that good of a rhythm and just consistently stickign to the piano here instead is better
00:34:745 (1) - i think mapping the guitar melody here is a lot nicer =( the drum isnt really doing much that suggests mapping it over the intricate melody offered by the guitar imo.
00:38:813 (1,2,3,1) - i can't play 7 star maps so im not sure, but wouldn't this be hella awkward to play? maybe you could buff the 2 3 out a bit and make the spacing of the whole pattern get smaller over time if that's the case.
00:47:965 (1,2) - these are super anticlimactic, you have a lot of nice energy built up with the streams, and then it's completely destroyed when you sit still for 2 measure holding a key down. doing something with lower spacing works better here like at 00:46:122 (4,5,6,7,8) - or something
00:53:813 (4) - i think removing this note works much better. that way, you pair 00:53:304 (1,1) - together since they both have a 1/1 gap. 00:55:846 (4) - same
01:04:235 (1) - imo should make this to a stream considering that the top diff has a full stream here, as does toybot.
01:08:938 (2) - doesnt really feel that important to map to me. kinda messes up the 1/1 gap in the melody.
01:11:607 (1,2,3) - definitely sounds like 1/6th to me. but when i slow it down it kinda sounds slower so idk..
01:16:438 (2,3,4,5) - other times you used sliders on these, why are they screen jumps here o.o

[toybot]
00:08:813 - same thing as kroytz, could be cool to put kicksliders here to show the melody notes
00:13:898 (1,2,3,4) - similarly, a visual change on this one could distinguish the 3 notes in hte melody a little better than just ncing here.
00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - unsnapped
00:28:643 (1) - considering what the top diffs have here (which is more or less a bunch of fullscreen jump spam) i suggest making this rhythm in this part more dense to fit with the spread a bit better. this was one of the parts with the biggest density discrepancies so bringing it up a bit would be nice.
00:32:584 (2) - making these 2 clicks would be nice cuz melody thing
also generally i think you could use some 3/4 sliders instead of 1/1 to make the rhythm a bit denser since kroytz's top diff is quite dense by comparison, same for smoothie's
00:44:406 (1,2) - this felt kind of anticlimactic, why not do something like what kroytz did? if not that, imo spacing out the 1/1 a bit more would be nice since you can kinda just waddle your cursor over and it doesnt really stand out much atm
00:47:584 (2) - 00:48:601 (2) - imo these should be converted to circles. this would allow the kicksliders to exclusively be on the cool drum rhythm stuff
00:53:813 (3) - should not be mapped clickable imo. the melody isn't on it and the 1/1 break creates a nice effect, like at 00:55:719 (2) - where the clicks are 1/1 apart.
01:20:251 - 3/4 slider here especially would be really nice. i dont think the release finish effect works that well with a jump to the next note since the jump deprioritzes the slider end a lot
01:26:607 (3) - whys this 1 looks so different from the other wave sliders lol
01:28:132 (1,2,1,2) - i get what you followed here but imo the melody is more clear. either way works tho just something to consider since you follwed melody a lot of the time anyway
01:44:912 (7,8,9) - ehh this is the only time you stacked like this, it stands out a lot but the thing you did it on isn't really that distinctive. i suggest to change it to something less unique
01:48:217 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you never highlighted this thing before to this degree. if you want to make something this visually unique here (which is fine, looks nice etc) then do so in the other times it happens earlier in this section as well.
also the od is way too low lol, at least 9 please.
[alheak]
00:14:406 - why is the sv so low. feels super super low even considering this is a pretty easy part
00:24:321 (4,5,6) - ctrl g on this rhythm seems better. you're following guitar with your sliders, so might as well do it here too.
00:27:880 (2,3) - this is cute
00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - unsnapped!
00:36:524 (5,6) - the guitar here is also kinda unsnapped. since you're following the guitar in this section, better snap these sliders properly.
also props for actually following the melody ..
00:40:338 (1,2,3,4,1) - making this smaller over time would be cool to show the song getting softer
00:48:728 (6) - in the opening stream you put kicksliders on these, here too?
01:01:440 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - i don't really hear anything drastically different, why is it into 3 parts here
01:03:218 - imo if you stick a hold slider over this breaking it up to follow the background sounds.
01:18:472 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern seems like a massive massive diffspike o.o
01:21:776 (4,5,6,7) - feels like the difference of spacing on 01:22:030 (1) - is visually much smaller compared to 01:21:013 (1) -. maybe make it a bit bigger
01:28:132 (1) - you kinda follow the guitar everywhere else why switch to cymbals here o.o in the first kiai you followed the guitar too
also 01:27:115 - should be not-kiai'd?
01:49:742 (1) - feels quite overspaced

[exhaust]
00:09:576 (3) - 2 kickslider here like later at 00:12:627 (1,2) -
01:06:523 (2,3) - this 3 doesnt follow anything cuz of the red tick snare rhythms
01:09:065 (3) - 2 clicks for melody?
01:18:980 (4) - would be nice to distinguish this one somehow. maybe clickable.

generally fine

[ponoyoshi hyper]
00:09:576 (3,4,1) - feels very sudden considering that most other 1/2 appearing till now is stacked
00:12:500 (3) - having this here is weird cuz it removes emphasis frm 451 which actually has drum sounds
00:30:677 (1,2,3,4,5) - can u make this visual spacing a bit higher
00:34:109 (3,4) - this amount of melody notes on slider ends is really annoying, can you make some more clickable
also the spacing here is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally cramped so it looks really shitty, spread stuff out please
00:34:745 (1) - also i think actually following the melody here would be a lot better lol this just seems completely disconnected from the song
00:38:940 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ok honestly this rhythm is horrifically bad, the song is dividing itself into groups of 3 1/2 ticks but your rhythm or patterns don't reflect that at all.
00:43:007 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern looks really weird, why is 4 randomly on the other side...?
also the guitar thing feels really underwhelming
01:02:202 - why is this so small, looked like 1/16th or something to me. can u make it so it looks like actually visible slider body
01:23:556 (3) - cttrl g this to avoid covered repeat slider
01:47:200 (3) - 2 clicks plz

[fizz adv]
00:03:728 (1,3) - rip visual spacing

00:08:177 (4) - why is this clickable o.o theres nothign there
00:24:448 (3) - it was bad enough that you randomly switched to drums for a triple, but this both looks bad and would be pretty confusing for noobs since its the first 1/4 ever
00:26:228 (2,3) - these dont really follow anything important. imo following the held out guitar is better here, you could do that by removing 00:25:592 (1) - this repeat and just making a slider from there
00:36:779 (1,2) - multi repeats are dissuaded in lower diffs due to the low amount of time you actually see the repeat arrow
00:39:957 - 00:39:575 (5,1) - making 5 into a repeat and 1 into a circle would be better to work with how the song divide itself here since it's in parts of 3 1/2 beats

00:53:813 (3) - meh theres nothing here, a 1/1 gap fits a lot better imo..
00:55:846 (4) - same
00:58:516 (3) - make this look decent please
00:59:829 (3,5,6) - this first jump might be a bit large considering its the first time its introduced, don't think 1/3 jumps are that good for this diff level anyway
01:43:640 (1,1) - will be confusing cuz the sliders last for different amounts of time lol

kinda bored of this song by now, gonna stop here. seems to me like the diffs still need a bit of work, you can ask for recheck when they are a bit better =D
Alheak

Naotoshi wrote:

[alheak]
00:14:406 - why is the sv so low. feels super super low even considering this is a pretty easy part I think it's relatively appropriate since the previous intense stream section is .75x, reducing to .50x here is by no mean a stretch
I understand why it could feel a bit slow but it actually never crossed my mind before, and I don't think anybody ever complained about it

00:24:321 (4,5,6) - ctrl g on this rhythm seems better. you're following guitar with your sliders, so might as well do it here too. ya
00:27:880 (2,3) - this is cute owo
00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - unsnapped! ok
00:36:524 (5,6) - the guitar here is also kinda unsnapped. since you're following the guitar in this section, better snap these sliders properly. ye
also props for actually following the melody ..
00:40:338 (1,2,3,4,1) - making this smaller over time would be cool to show the song getting softer nice
00:48:728 (6) - in the opening stream you put kicksliders on these, here too? the streams are a bit different and i used kicksliders ealier to emphasize the melody in the background
01:01:440 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - i don't really hear anything drastically different, why is it into 3 parts here changed
01:03:218 - imo if you stick a hold slider over this breaking it up to follow the background sounds. I think I prefer emphasizing the choir here, mapping the background instruments would feel superfluous
01:18:472 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern seems like a massive massive diffspike o.o the slider leniency makes it actually very easy and snappy
01:21:776 (4,5,6,7) - feels like the difference of spacing on 01:22:030 (1) - is visually much smaller compared to 01:21:013 (1) -. maybe make it a bit bigger reduced 01:21:013 (1) - instead since all the other streams have a 0.8 distance
01:28:132 (1) - you kinda follow the guitar everywhere else why switch to cymbals here o.o in the first kiai you followed the guitar too I wanted to emphasize the small interlude since it's quite an important change from the original melody
also 01:27:115 - should be not-kiai'd? good idea
01:49:742 (1) - feels quite overspaced nerfed a bit
thank you!

update
Topic Starter
Kroytz
I updated your diff Alheak but I don't believe these snaps are properly placed. I want to say they are not since the mixing in the song isn't very clean - lots of 1/6 mixtures going on might be better to simplify using 1/4s. let me know if you want me to unfix (refix?) the snaps, otherwise another nominator can provide insight with it.
7ambda
[BASIC]
  1. 01:04:363 (1) - Should there be a 1/1 gap recovery time between spinners? Considering this is supposed to be the introduction diff, and constant spinning in general gets tiring for beginners. There's no clear indication of where the second spinner should start, so 1/1 could work, depending how you want to emphasize the hitsounds in the climax.
[HYPER]
  1. 01:49:234 (2) - Ctrl+g would create smooth clockwise flow instead of what you had going by orienting all the sliders in the same direction
[EXHAUST]
  1. 01:52:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - maybe you noticed or you didn't, but your triangles start to get less and less equidistant as they progress
[INFINITE]
  1. 00:27:880 (2,3) - this jump feels unnecessarily large for what you're trying to emphasize, especially when (3) isn't that much stronger from (2)
  2. 00:31:694 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - cool pattern
[MAXIMUM]
  1. 00:51:524 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the pitch is lower than the previous combo, so you should swap spacing with 00:51:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
  2. 01:04:235 (1) - why not just stack on 01:06:523 (2) for aesthetics?
im bad at modding
Alheak
The guitar bend is going up in pitch here, that's what's emphasized, and I don't believe the jump is too big for that since I really wanna accentuate this

Thanks for the mod though
Fizz
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Naotoshi wrote:

[fizz adv]
00:03:728 (1,3) - rip visual spacing fixed
00:08:177 (4) - why is this clickable o.o theres nothign there fixed
00:24:448 (3) - it was bad enough that you randomly switched to drums for a triple, but this both looks bad and would be pretty confusing for noobs since its the first 1/4 ever i really don't think this is a "noob map" and having stuff be confusing isn't necessarily an issue for me. i switch to the drums cuz i think it's a good way of resolving the held guitar note
00:26:228 (2,3) - these dont really follow anything important. imo following the held out guitar is better here, you could do that by removing 00:25:592 (1) - this repeat and just making a slider from there sry i like how it is
00:36:779 (1,2) - multi repeats are dissuaded in lower diffs due to the low amount of time you actually see the repeat arrow yeah better make sure everyone fcs first try
00:39:957 - 00:39:575 (5,1) - making 5 into a repeat and 1 into a circle would be better to work with how the song divide itself here since it's in parts of 3 1/2 beats yeah lots of people have suggested this but in my head this is definitely a 3-3-2, 2-2-2-2 pattern

00:53:813 (3) - meh theres nothing here, a 1/1 gap fits a lot better imo.. snare
00:55:846 (4) - same same
00:58:516 (3) - make this look decent please k
00:59:829 (3,5,6) - this first jump might be a bit large considering its the first time its introduced, don't think 1/3 jumps are that good for this diff level anyway
01:43:640 (1,1) - will be confusing cuz the sliders last for different amounts of time lol

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TitleUnicode:Lachryma《Re:Queen'M》
Artist:Kaneko Chiharu
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Creator:Kroytz
Version:Fizz's ADVANCED
Source:SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS
Tags:SDVX Grace The 5th KAC Original Song Contest KONAMI BEMANI Battle Ametrin Fizz Ponoyoshi Alheak toybot Smoothie World
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Battle
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F1r3tar wrote:

[BASIC]
  1. 01:04:363 (1) - Should there be a 1/1 gap recovery time between spinners? Considering this is supposed to be the introduction diff, and constant spinning in general gets tiring for beginners. There's no clear indication of where the second spinner should start, so 1/1 could work, depending how you want to emphasize the hitsounds in the climax. See, there's kinda no explicit rules stating it because of the fact that the 1/1 gap mostly applies to objects that are non-spinners, spinners are a bit more lenient in terms of being consecutive since they don't require a strict hit window and only spinning. 1/1 gap is not really necessary, also a 1/1 gap in this situation would be extremely short and unplayable with the bpm.
PoNo

Naotoshi wrote:

[ponoyoshi hyper]
00:09:576 (3,4,1) - feels very sudden considering that most other 1/2 appearing till now is stacked I've used spacing here because there's 2 1/2 beats not like the other previous ones, also the song looks like a back and forth so, I thinks thats fine for that one.
00:12:500 (3) - having this here is weird cuz it removes emphasis frm 451 which actually has drum sounds True, changed
00:30:677 (1,2,3,4,5) - can u make this visual spacing a bit higher Totally
00:34:109 (3,4) - this amount of melody notes on slider ends is really annoying, can you make some more clickable Changed
also the spacing here is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally cramped so it looks really shitty, spread stuff out please
00:34:745 (1) - also i think actually following the melody here would be a lot better lol this just seems completely disconnected from the song I don't really think so, I prefer just follow the song and make something like that >.<
00:38:940 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ok honestly this rhythm is horrifically bad, the song is dividing itself into groups of 3 1/2 ticks but your rhythm or patterns don't reflect that at all. Changed once again, but still don't know if its good or not, making this rhythm with sliders is a pain tbh
00:43:007 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern looks really weird, why is 4 randomly on the other side...? Nop, I made a different one cause the main piano we can hear at 00:43:007 (1,2,3) - just stop, thats the reason why I changed the orientation/placement of this slider
also the guitar thing feels really underwhelming
01:02:202 - why is this so small, looked like 1/16th or something to me. can u make it so it looks like actually visible slider body For that one I don't really want to change it cause making a basic reverse could be so boring imo... and also even if its looks like an 1/16th thats not making troubles to read at all, also... If thats impossible to make, I gonna change it. But if thats not an "obligation" I'll just let it like that cause its fitting the song and its looks different of the rest.
01:23:556 (3) - cttrl g this to avoid covered repeat slider Fixed
01:47:200 (3) - 2 clicks plz Changed

Thanks for the mod !
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TitleUnicode:Lachryma《Re:Queen'M》
Artist:Kaneko Chiharu
ArtistUnicode:かねこちはる
Creator:Kroytz
Version:Poyoshi's HYPER
Source:SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS
Tags:SDVX Grace The 5th KAC Original Song Contest KONAMI BEMANI Battle Ametrin Fizz Ponoyoshi Alheak toybot Smoothie World
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Topic Starter
Kroytz

Naotoshi wrote:

00:00:678 (1,3) - could be nicer if these are visually spaced the same Don't really see the difference here so I'll just leave alone

00:08:813 (9,10,11,12) - here there is clearly 2 notes in the melody. since you used kicksliders to represent that in places like 00:12:627 (9,10) - could be nice to do it here too.

00:09:576 (1,2,3,4) -same thing ah yeah I can sort of hear those. I followed what was most dominant, so the arpeggios don't have the kickslider even tho there's a violin in the background but the ones with the kick sliders don't have accompanied arpeggios.

00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - the snapping on this thing is completely off and noticeably so. i recommend snapping it properly, as dumb as it looks on timeline. this applies to all diffs! Can't remember if we talked about this but the snapping is odd to use if used in 1/6 that are like 10 ms off or something. It's just better to simplify it since it'll play the same. A lot of subtle beats are kinda off-placed but it's just much better to keep it simplified instead of trying to snap everything to the ms and having it play all weird.

00:23:558 (1,2,3,4) - the size of these jumps is way too similar to 00:23:050 (3,4,5) - imo. there is no guitar melody on them, so they should be differentiated from the previous combo.
00:29:279 (5) - same here kinda, there isnt reason for this one to be so large considering there is no melody on it It's really more/less to be played as sequential pattern seeing as how 00:23:558 (1,2,3,4,5) - is a star and 00:29:787 (2,3,1,2,3) - is almost a full hexagon. Nothing to be 1:1 with the song but just structured to be a pattern. I quite like it this way.

00:25:592 (1,2,3) - this snapping seems fucky..00:25:783 (2) - should actually be on the 1/6th beat at 00:25:762 - Yeah, better to simplify it since the song's mixing is a bit inconsistent.

00:37:287 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - to be honest these jumps look completely randomly placed. was there some form of organization that i missed? there doesnt look like any type of consnistent motion, similar direction of movement, whatever... errr yes there is an organization.. I'll try my best to explain. The top circles follow the rest of the stream and it triangulates lower with every NC. Up until the ending jumps it plays as a 3/4 square all while increasing the spacing.

00:48:092 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i dont hear anything that suggests this type of patterning. what were you following here? Four arpeggios that have strong | weak | strong | weak composition.

00:53:813 (4) - feels like it should be a slider end. no melody even though that's the most dominant part by far
00:55:846 (4) - same
00:57:753 (3) - same
even removing these circles seems much better to me since it leaves the 1/1 gap that shows the similarity between 00:55:338 (1) - or 00:55:974 (1) - etc. since they're paired in the song, should be mapped the same way too, with a 1/1 gap into them. but there's a drum clap on all of those x_x I can't change that. If I wanted to undermap to the song then maybe but I try to capture all the strong beats here. I had thought about slider too but the ending claps rub me the wrong way tbh.

01:06:523 (2,3) - definitely sounds like a rhythm like http://puu.sh/w3GL5/4ae55995f5.jpg in the drums instead. or 3/4 slider for the 2nd one, whatever, but that red tick snare is much better here since there isnt a melody on the white tick like 01:09:574 (2,3) - yeah, not really for me

01:13:387 (2) - here i know youre following the melody but having a finish be unclickable just feels kinda lame. gomen

01:13:896 (1,2) - ctrl g on this seems (to me) to follow the vocals a bit better. I can see that, but I don't like the way it flows from the previous measure.

01:22:030 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - doesnt make sense to have direction change on 234 etc cuz its in the same er, it's meants to continue the clockwise flow

01:38:047 (5,6) - could be cool to do something with kicksliders to represent how the song changed (like these ones are more abrupt basically) This one sounds pretty good idea, I'll think about it since my current structure heavily relies on 01:37:285 (1) - being blanketed and using a kick slider will throw off the aesthetic.

01:38:303 (1,2,3) - imo you should nerf the spacing on these quieter piano streams since its like super quiet, then it could be visually different from the 123 123 123 stuff as well I can't nerf the spacing because then it's a bit hard to discern the smaller spacing of the ending 1/4s. Also, since it's 1/3, bigger spacing helps keep fluid motion to accommodate for the shorter timing windows.

01:41:268 (3,1) - this didnt seem very impactful since there isnt really a direction change on 1, i think it should be distinguished more like at the other times This is okay.. Following the direction of the previous is okay too, just really a matter of where I wanted to go in the editor since I don't wanna corner myself.

01:46:437 - could be cool to do something with the background melody around here Possibly but I already have my structure here~

01:58:131 (1) - kinda seems like it should be separated visually from the stream since its a completely different sound You mean spaced higher? I could but I think it's already spaced quite well apart from the others.
Thank you Nao, hopefully my responses are understandable!

@F1r3tar: The triangles are the same spacing but the jump to every NC will of course be slighty different. It'll be okay~
toybot
forgot to post my draft lol

Naotoshi wrote:

[toybot]
00:08:813 - same thing as kroytz, could be cool to put kicksliders here to show the melody notes // meh, like it as is
00:13:898 (1,2,3,4) - similarly, a visual change on this one could distinguish the 3 notes in hte melody a little better than just ncing here. // don't have anything for here tbh
00:22:287 (4,5,6,7,1) - unsnapped
00:28:643 (1) - considering what the top diffs have here (which is more or less a bunch of fullscreen jump spam) i suggest making this rhythm in this part more dense to fit with the spread a bit better. this was one of the parts with the biggest density discrepancies so bringing it up a bit would be nice. // i wanted to emphasize the clarity of the piano
00:32:584 (2) - making these 2 clicks would be nice cuz melody thing
also generally i think you could use some 3/4 sliders instead of 1/1 to make the rhythm a bit denser since kroytz's top diff is quite dense by comparison, same for smoothie's
00:44:406 (1,2) - this felt kind of anticlimactic, why not do something like what kroytz did? if not that, imo spacing out the 1/1 a bit more would be nice since you can kinda just waddle your cursor over and it doesnt really stand out much atm // i felt that this section was calming down, actually, in order to flow into the relatively slower paced piano streams
00:47:584 (2) - 00:48:601 (2) - imo these should be converted to circles. this would allow the kicksliders to exclusively be on the cool drum rhythm stuff // mostly following a pattern tbh, don't want to change that
00:53:813 (3) - should not be mapped clickable imo. the melody isn't on it and the 1/1 break creates a nice effect, like at 00:55:719 (2) - where the clicks are 1/1 apart.
01:20:251 - 3/4 slider here especially would be really nice. i dont think the release finish effect works that well with a jump to the next note since the jump deprioritzes the slider end a lot // i debated over this alot, but i want to keep it. i really like the release effect here
01:26:607 (3) - whys this 1 looks so different from the other wave sliders lol
01:28:132 (1,2,1,2) - i get what you followed here but imo the melody is more clear. either way works tho just something to consider since you follwed melody a lot of the time anyway
01:44:912 (7,8,9) - ehh this is the only time you stacked like this, it stands out a lot but the thing you did it on isn't really that distinctive. i suggest to change it to something less unique
01:48:217 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you never highlighted this thing before to this degree. if you want to make something this visually unique here (which is fine, looks nice etc) then do so in the other times it happens earlier in this section as well. // yeah i just ditched it, didnt like it
also the od is way too low lol, at least 9 please.

kinda bored of this song by now, gonna stop here. seems to me like the diffs still need a bit of work, you can ask for recheck when they are a bit better =D
didn't like 3312's suggestions, sorry
did atsuro's thing
sorry for the delay! https://0paste.com/13765.txt
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