1. Amen (6,33 stars, 2284 notes)

Flaven's first try

Net0 wrote:

Really cool map \o/, is it ready for mods?

sonic8889 wrote:

hello! m4m from my queue

Amen

00:37:713 (1) - weird slider to follow ;o Corrected, made it more rounded

00:39:077 (1) - I think you should try to make this the same size as the sliders ahead It's not the same Beat divisor, hence the different length

00:44:122 (4) - You should move this left just a bit to make the distancing equal. it's quite close to the slider before it Oh yeah, thanks!

00:50:395 (7,1) - Blanket these? if you can, same for all sliders like this ahead (you have like 3 or 4) The "head" of the slider is under blanket, but I can't afford to make the same curve for it

01:03:145 (2) - You should NC this, cause it's on a different rhythm than 01:02:804 (1) . atm it's easy to miss Changed the pattern so the NC isn't needed

01:05:804 (6,7) - This pattern is super weird to play and feels like it breaks flow. same for all ahead Changed for whole reverse

01:57:895 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This curve doesn't look good, you should change it Changed

02:23:395 (4,5,6) - This pattern is kind of uneven DS constant, the angle are around the same each time, I don't see the problem

02:26:804 (2,3,4) - You should make this follow the distancing more. atm it feels much shorter than the rest of this section Increased DS

03:05:872 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern cuts off of the other one. It's up a bit more than it should be. Corrected

03:09:895 (1,2) - Move these closer so that no followpoint forms Applied

03:48:077 (1,2,3) - Uneven distancing Optic illusion, it's all the same

03:50:941 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - The pattern here is really weird and not appealing. change? Changed

this is my mod
sorry for short mod, I'm better at modding maps with more jumps rather than streams. either way, stream maps (to me) look almost perfect from the start because of the way they're built xd

good luck ranking!

1Computer wrote:

m4m reply

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General

1. No hitsounding!? Coming soon!

Stuff

1. 00:00:646 - Set hitsound to Soft.
2. 00:42:077 (1,3) - Blanket. Applied
3. 00:43:850 (2,5) - Either stack these two or blanket 00:44:259 (1,5). Stacked
4. 00:46:304 (10,1) - Blanket. Applied
5. 00:47:259 (7,8,9) - Move this down and to the left so it creates a diamond pattern with 00:46:713 (2,3,4,5,6). Done
6. 00:50:259 (6,7) - Fix blanket. Fixed
7. 01:22:441 (1) - Replace with slider? I don't see why
8. 01:37:713 (1) - You can have this follow the curve of the stream. Done
9. 01:48:486 (10,1) - Blanket. Fixed
10. 01:49:441 (7,8,9) - Form a diamond shape here. Done
11. 01:52:441 (6,7) - Blanket. Done
12. 02:21:895 (1,2,3) - Keep this smooth. Done
13. 02:22:304 (4,5,6,7,8) - You gotta form a better star here. In fact, this entire section needs rework, it looks terrible. Reworked
14. 02:28:168 (5,6,7,8,1) - Why isn't this straight? It is now
15. 03:00:350 (5,6,7,8,9) - Straighten this.
16. 03:00:691 - Couple notes you're missing out on.

I'm mapping over the guitar, so I won't map those, hence why I can make a spaced stream just before
From there on, the only thing I can say is to make more blankets and better shapes.

Honestly, you gotta work on how your map looks. There's opportunity for blankets everywhere that I didn't point out, and your patterns and shapes (including the streams) need cleanup. Thanks for the mod and the advice!

DaniilLillifag wrote:

Hi with unexpected M4M! Me be like : "Eh what, a mod I didn't ask for? Holyyyy thank you!"
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481915
I just cant miss this map, how good is it. But, like all (pending) maps, this one has its flaws
Enjoy~

Amen

00:02:282 (4,2) - this slider and note located too close imo, move notes pattern up Applied

00:14:555 (3,5) - bad overlap, try to change the angle 4-th slider to -30 and stack note with end of 5-th slider Applied as said

00:23:282 (3,5) - same problem, stack note with end of slider (changing in this case angle this,5-th, slider) Done

00:25:191 (2,4) - can be make here blanket Done

00:27:373 (2,4) - ^ Fixed

00:54:895 (8,9,10,5) - bad overlap, fix it Fixed

01:00:077 (8) - maybe nc? I thought it was made firstly this way but deleted the nc for whatever reason >.>

01:03:895 (1,2) - on the spot notes i hear a strong guitar sound, remove this note and start with this place slider, and at the end you can put a deuce No matter hard I try, I hear nothing ;w; And I didn't understand what you suggested too ;w;

01:05:532 (5) - stack end of this slider with end of slider 01:03:895 (1) , because 5-th slider located too close with 01:04:986 (1) Rotated

01:07:168 (1,2) - i dont like that space in pattern, here i hear a 2 strong guitar sound, you can put a note in place of the slider and move this slider to the red tick Changed the pattern, not in the way you said

01:12:077 (5,7,8,9) - located too close Changed slightly

01:12:622 (1,8,9,10) - stack triple with end of slider

01:16:986 (1,8,9,10) - ^ They were already?

01:22:304 (7,8,1,2) - bad space between pattern again, in place of 1-st note i hear lengthy guitar sound, change this note to 1/2 slider This sound is emphasized by the very absence of note

01:25:032 (4,6,7,8) - located too close, move note a bit left Done

01:32:122 (10,3) - stack Done

01:33:759 (4,5,8) - overlap, move kickslider+note a bit up Fixed

01:39:350 (6,7,8,2,3,4) - located too close, move 2-nd triple right Fixed

01:52:577 (7,1) - overlap Fixed

02:14:259 (1,8,9,10) - stack Done

02:25:577 (5,8) - bad overlap It doesn't overlap

02:40:986 (5,6,7,1) - ^ Fixed

02:44:259 (5,1) - nice stack bro, fix it It wasn't? owo

03:00:622 (9,10) - in duplicate kickslider's place i dont hear 1/4, only 1/6, and before this kickslider bad space, try to remake it As said before, I'm mapping on the guitar here, and it's 1/4th only, also to emphasize the big sound i'm making a small break into the stream, and putting a spaced stream contributes to it

03:09:622 (11) - same, I hear here only 1/6 Same guitar is 1/4

03:14:122 (4,3,4,5) - located too close, move triple a bit Fixed

03:20:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - too boring stream, try to make it more wavy It's in the middle of a verse, so I don't want it to be too hard

03:50:531 (4,7,8,9) - stack Done

03:51:486 (4,5,6,10,11,12) - bad overlap, move 2-nd triple up Done

04:09:622 (8,9,10,2,3,4,8,9,10) - same, spread them out Applied and put the last triple in the middle of the last pattern

04:16:986 (5,6,7,1) - another overlap, try to make a slider something like this Done

04:35:804 (8,9,10,7,8,9) - stack middle's of the 2 triple Fixed

End of mod~

Good luck Thanks a lot for the mod! Will mod your map asap

LigerZero wrote:

No Kudosu

tags added "The World Where the Time Ended comiket73 c73 touhou fuujinroku Shinkou wa hakanaki ningen no tame ni" Done

General

1. Choose combo colors and disable countdown

Amen

1. OD should be 8.5 or above
2. 00:39:895 - ok so here , in the background , there is a loud cymbal sound so making it clickable would be good
3. 00:50:395 (7,1) - weird placement ... 7 doesnt go very well with 1 , the flow is pretty broken here
4. 01:09:077 (6,7) - i hate this kind of rhythm .... if u really want a kick slider there , then make it appear before circle like 01:15:077 (2,3) -
5. 01:19:986 (1) - remove this nc
6. 01:22:577 - leaving this empty is not a good choice tbh .. u could easily place a 01:22:441 - 1/2 here and it wont hurt
7. 01:30:350 (2,3,4) - the stack makes 01:30:350 (2) - appear abit out of the playfield so maybe move the stack downward
8. 02:12:076 (5) - nc plis
9. 03:21:895 - please make this clickable ... repeat slider here is the worst idea here tbh ... first of all its a downbeat and second there is a strong snare sound
10. 04:03:076 (5) - nc should start from here not from 04:03:145 (1) -
11. 04:33:281 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - try to change the stream pattern so that 04:32:804 (1) - this wont overlap with 04:33:486 (3,4,5) -

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

ok then

General

1. Choose combo colors and disable countdown Done

Amen

1. OD should be 8.5 or above OD9 Applied
2. 00:39:895 - ok so here , in the background , there is a loud cymbal sound so making it clickable would be good Applied
3. 00:50:395 (7,1) - weird placement ... 7 doesnt go very well with 1 , the flow is pretty broken here Changed it
4. 01:09:077 (6,7) - i hate this kind of rhythm .... if u really want a kick slider there , then make it appear before circle like 01:15:077 (2,3) - Applied
5. 01:19:986 (1) - remove this nc Don't know why it was there
6. 01:22:577 - leaving this empty is not a good choice tbh .. u could easily place a 01:22:441 - 1/2 here and it wont hurt There's nothing there tbh apart from the rhythm guitar that is mainly 1/4 all the song, will see if more people want it to be changed
7. 01:30:350 (2,3,4) - the stack makes 01:30:350 (2) - appear abit out of the playfield so maybe move the stack downward y=0, it's good to go
8. 02:12:076 (5) - nc plis Yup yup yup
9. 03:21:895 - please make this clickable ... repeat slider here is the worst idea here tbh ... first of all its a downbeat and second there is a strong snare sound Idk the fuck I did that, changed to two circle and a repeat
10. 04:03:076 (5) - nc should start from here not from 04:03:145 (1) - True
11. 04:33:281 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - try to change the stream pattern so that 04:32:804 (1) - this wont overlap with 04:33:486 (3,4,5) - Changed the angle of the curve

Overall its a decent map . but theres still place for more improvement Thanks for the mod and sorry for the late reply

gl gl

Akali wrote:

I write this an awful lot but I prefer to be honest, I don't think this map would interest any BNs at the current state. Mods pointing out single objects/patterns won't improve what's underwhelming structure and spacing choice. As I'm moving on from this as you adviced it, I'm going you my opinion point by point.

Map is rated at 6,33 because of the spread streams, however almost everything else has a spacing and flow of a light insane. I'm not telling you map should have big jumps or anything, it's just the cursor follows one path all the time moving the same distance between objects following the rhythm only, there is no represantation of melody in the flow, sections look pretty much the same aside from few star/back and forth triangular jump patters, I don't think this is how you are supposed to map 6+ extras and represent the music on the playfield properly. This map was never meant to be 6.33, I just wanted to map rhythm in a very simple flow as I knew the bpm was already making this already hard enough stamina wise, so I'd go with a DS snapped because I just wanted the map to drain the player on fingers speed and not on his ability to aim.

Design is rather mediocre or nonexistent, aside from using distance snap and few stacks and blankets it doesn't look nor feel like one whole.
Take for example 01:43:441 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it's not relevant in any way to 01:44:259 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the second combo just goes through the first one, this is to be avoided and it does matter during gameplay for an aware player. Patterns should build on each other, flow around each other and be structured similarily within similar parts of the music. It requires experience but without doing it on at least basic level your map will have a bad reception and won't interest any BNs who mostly will dismiss it at the first glance. Especially you aren't part of the establishment The example is maybe just a design error but it just could be fixed by stacking the patterns. About structure, it was litteraly the same rhythm/object structure for the two bars, as everything was the same

1/2 and 1/1 sliders just follow the linear flow usually. As sliders are more lenient (they don't have real hitwindows like circles) you should use spacing and different angles/directions for emphasis when using them. I didn't mean slider to be as hard as circles, hence I put them as the same DS with the normal angles, to allow the player's fingers to rest for half a beat

Stream curves look random a lot of times, when by using slider to stream conversion making decently looking and playing streams is rather fast and easy. All the stream were made with the editor tool

Avoid 1/4 slider repeats touching each other unless done neatly and consistently, you can easily keep them some distance from each other, it plays better effectively (you aren't stuck in one place spamming buttons but there is some movement included) 02:01:713 (1,2) - something like this should be avoided always. I wasn't aware of this "rule" before making my streams so I tried to fix them instead of redoing them.

Avoiding curving sliders this much 04:02:259 (1) - unless you have a musical reason for it, 04:01:168 (1) - keep them consistent like this for the most of the time. Also just copy paste and rotate sliders to have the same curve. Add more straight and crooked (one red point) sliders too for variety True than on this specific map I didn't make any fancy sliders, but that's manily because of the way I thought of sliders for this map.

Your general rhythm choices are solid (with exceptions) , but that's not enough for now. RIP my kudos xD

I suggest you improve your mapping in general (this is your 4th uploaded map it seems, maybe you did more but it's still basically no experience I mapped a few more and still learning, but that's the first time I mapped a 220 bpm intense song) after some time you will see yourself what's lacking in this map. Study the way jonathanlfj and GoldenWolf Demetori maps If I was to give an style of map I tried to inspire from, it'd be more of a Jenny's DragonForce Legend map, with, from my point of view, almost no jumps/really good aim required outside of the streams. for inspiration and basic idea on what to do with this type of music (not saying to copy everything you see of course), use editor functions better (don't be afraid to copy paste rotate patterns Will do, create streams from sliders, create polygons I assume you mean mainly triangle and that's not how I imaginated this map, but I use polygones on everything else, switch stuff around on timeline in order to construct better patterns etc, you will learn those things as you get to know the editor better, right now it seems you only use DS and made few star patterns)

Summing up I would honestly reccomend moving on from this, you can be stubborn and keep working on it to rank it but from my experience I know this usually ends up with frustration. Map for fun, study other mappers and mod other maps, and you will get better in no time Thanks for all the advices !.