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[NM'']
  1. 01:43:374 加note slider 往後拉少一拍
    不拉
  2. 02:10:631 確定這個重音就這樣略過嗎? 你前面都有跟的說 看看别人怎么说
<NM>
01:43:374 (3) - 这个地方是你故意摆成这个节奏的吗?比较难预料 都是滑条应该还好吧
01:54:346 (3) - ^
nm
  1. 01:22:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - id use the rhythm at 01:16:803 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - instead because then the rhythm alternates evry nc Xd seems it doesn't make much difference lol
NM
00:03:431 (2) - 前后ds怎么差了0.1 没有啊 0.01
00:06:174 (2) - ↑
00:30:174 (1) - 弯的不好看,建议后面的弯曲和前面的角度一致 是说不对称吗,修了一下
00:57:603 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 这段的难度太低了,建议稍微填满一点 不改了
[NM'']
00:19:031 (6) - 不弄成水平線? 修了
00:27:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 不太建議圈圈內的數字超過6 我是觉得没到二位数就不影响美观吧
01:20:403 (3,4) - 特意的? fix
01:59:317 (3) - Normal的Reverse不可以超過1個 (某BN說的) 改了
猪师傅
00:28:974 (6) - 建议把这个删掉然后从00:29:146 - 起个1/2 slider 现在这段节奏太长了有点难 全stack了,再说难打你哦
00:53:146 (3) - 有点难 建议换成circle 滑条更好混吧 感觉区别不大
01:30:003 (6) - 建议删掉这个circle然后unstack 还有01:32:746 (6) - 不太想改
01:59:317 (3) - 连续折返的1/2也是低难度不推荐的 最好换一下 改了
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Hollow Wings
m4m

BE''

  1. 00:53:488 (1,2,3,4) - 突然小跳感觉好憋屈,顺序改2413好了。
  2. 01:36:688 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 这段没有明显snap的音,估计会被挑。
  3. 01:51:431 (2) - 跳太大了,反向吧。
  4. 整个图的1/4连打,三连就不说了,有些长串也是基本上啥都没跟。有些wub音其实是随机的,用1/4混过去感觉不太好。。。我为什么用lks的remix就是为了避免这个问题。。。其他么,类似于第一条mod的ds憋屈的地方貌似还有挺多,虽然不影响打击感就是了。。。

IN''

  1. 00:57:603 (1,2,3) - 对于这个梗,我个人认为把00:57:946 (2) - stack在00:57:603 (1) - 更能够配合00:56:488 (2,3,4) - 的感觉一点。。。不知道为何,你看着办吧,后同。
  2. 02:12:174 (3) - 这个也是同理,感觉stack在02:12:517 (1) - 上比较有感觉。
  3. 排成这种类型的图感觉就很不错了。。。

HD''

  1. 00:31:717 (1) - 反向更好些。
  2. 00:55:203 (1,2,3) - 这里可能就需要体现一个节奏对称的概念了,这个节奏实在是undermap了太多,导致之后的部分节奏丰富就显得呼应不足。。。最好再来一组相同节奏的来平衡一下,不然是有点难受的特别是对于这种动次打次曲。

NM''

  1. 00:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 如今的社区对N难度出现这种复杂节奏是表示不给过的态度的,建议简化节奏,也就是说不要gap不同的节奏混杂在一起。01:16:803 (1) - 开始同理。01:53:488 (2,3) - 这种也是。
  2. 你这N的break比E还多啊,估计会被挑。

EZ''

  1. 00:18:860 (5) - E难度还是尽量不要搞1/2折返。
全diff set的1/4和最高难度建议一样。。。总之我是不太推荐各种形式的overmap,自己拿捏好了。。。

good luck
Topic Starter
[Mahua]

Hollow Wings wrote:

m4m

BE''

  1. 00:53:488 (1,2,3,4) - 突然小跳感觉好憋屈,顺序改2413好了。 就让他沉稳的移动吧 这里我个人感觉是应该这种排列
  2. 01:36:688 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 这段没有明显snap的音,估计会被挑。当后面的chain音(
  3. 01:51:431 (2) - 跳太大了,反向吧。 ok
  4. 整个图的1/4连打,三连就不说了,有些长串也是基本上啥都没跟。有些wub音其实是随机的,用1/4混过去感觉不太好。。。我为什么用lks的remix就是为了避免这个问题。。。其他么,类似于第一条mod的ds憋屈的地方貌似还有挺多,虽然不影响打击感就是了。。。

    我想做出有故事性的效果啊 开始就是吸血鬼第一次出现 第一次惊慌 逃脱 喘息 更小心的逃脱 后面的尖叫代表了被发现的心情 最后的kiai是第二次袭击 大概这种感觉
    这毕竟是sin的续作啊 总要有点故事性的对吧

IN''

  1. 00:57:603 (1,2,3) - 对于这个梗,我个人认为把00:57:946 (2) - stack在00:57:603 (1) - 更能够配合00:56:488 (2,3,4) - 的感觉一点。。。不知道为何,你看着办吧,后同。 ok
  2. 02:12:174 (3) - 这个也是同理,感觉stack在02:12:517 (1) - 上比较有感觉。 ok
  3. 排成这种类型的图感觉就很不错了。。。
全diff set的1/4和最高难度建议一样。。。总之我是不太推荐各种形式的overmap,自己拿捏好了。。。

good luck
ak74
来摸了
[General]
有些没用的绿线好像是得去掉的
EZ难度的00:43:888 - 这里有kiai然而其它没有,我觉得这个应该没事吧

[EZ'']
首先点开Aimod
01:57:259 (5) - 物件结尾没对齐

[NM'']


[HD'']
01:05:831 - 和 01:16:803 - 这两根绿线好像没用啊
00:55:203 (1,2,3) - 这里的节奏比后面的类似地方的节奏要简单,感觉有点怪,我推荐和01:08:574 (1,2,3,4) - 或者 01:14:060 (1,2,3) - 啥的保持一致

[IN'']
00:24:003 (4) - 按照前面的,这个可以NC
02:10:974 (1,2) - 这个离前面是不是太近了
02:13:803 - 这个绿线位置有点诡异啊。。。虽然好像没啥大碍

[BE'']
00:33:431 (2) - 这个音效有点突兀的
01:19:203 - 这条绿线好像也没用。。。 00:43:888 (1) - 这根不知道有没有用啊,去掉好像也没事
00:57:946 (2) - 滑条结尾这里的音并不明显,在这停顿我是觉得没啥问题,但是后面白线再加个circle也许会更爽吧(也更普通),后面还有几个类似的地方也一样
这其实可以直接找狗rank了,我是摸不出啥了



水摸完毕
Good luck!~ :)
VINXIS
anime
Koiyuki
beat burst mahua
Topic Starter
[Mahua]

Minakami Yuki wrote:

beat burst mahua
被打死 :o
Topic Starter
[Mahua]

ak74 wrote:

来摸了
[General]
有些没用的绿线好像是得去掉的
EZ难度的00:43:888 - 这里有kiai然而其它没有,我觉得这个应该没事吧


[IN'']
00:24:003 (4) - 按照前面的,这个可以NC 后面就不好看了
02:10:974 (1,2) - 这个离前面是不是太近了
02:13:803 - 这个绿线位置有点诡异啊。。。虽然好像没啥大碍 那就不改

[BE'']
00:33:431 (2) - 这个音效有点突兀的 喘息
01:19:203 - 这条绿线好像也没用。。。 00:43:888 (1) - 这根不知道有没有用啊,去掉好像也没事 可以
00:57:946 (2) - 滑条结尾这里的音并不明显,在这停顿我是觉得没啥问题,但是后面白线再加个circle也许会更爽吧(也更普通),后面还有几个类似的地方也一样
这其实可以直接找狗rank了,我是摸不出啥了



水摸完毕
Good luck!~ :)
IamKwaN
@vinxis, you didn't update?!?!
@hw, 還好 有幾處還用了1/2接滑條 就當是diff spike
@ak, fixed

3Q
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Flower

-N a n a k o- wrote:

[HD'']
00:09:603 (3) - 感覺這條滑條太斜了 改了点
00:24:346 (5,6,1) - 怎不把00:24:346 (5) - 也疊在一起, 個人覺得這樣才比較配合音樂 叠在了5上
00:52:117 (2,1) - 我找不出來要疊的原因OAO 我的理解是音乐这里有个急停
00:53:488 (1) - 既然之前是用1.7x, 怎麼突然要轉DS啊 因为单点比滑条难
01:50:403 (2) - 個人覺得這條用回01:49:717 (1) - 這條長條的pattern比較美觀 ???不是很懂
02:04:803 (3) - 感覺這裏DS跳得太突然了 个人觉得还好

VINXIS wrote:

hd

  1. 00:24:346 (5,6) - ctrlg wud b bettr 2 emphasise the slidr fixed by stacking 5 6
  2. 00:43:546 (1) - th rhythm is weird esp. consdiering the sliderend is ona big whit tik :L this is a sudden brake at the big white tick by my feeling, which is expressed better
  3. 00:52:117 (2) - y isnt the nc here i kno what im doing here. nc is for readability isn;t it?
  4. 01:49:717 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - rip combo consistncy.. take the nc off of 01:54:346 (1) -

it kills me when trying to recognize my part from the non-wysiwyg editor

Hollow Wings wrote:

[notice]
[notice]

HD''

  1. 00:31:717 (1) - 反向更好些。 这里强调一个减速的概念,所以反对
  2. 00:55:203 (1,2,3) - 这里可能就需要体现一个节奏对称的概念了,这个节奏实在是undermap了太多,导致之后的部分节奏丰富就显得呼应不足。。。最好再来一组相同节奏的来平衡一下,不然是有点难受的特别是对于这种动次打次曲。 我要是做太鼓谱这里肯定就会放一个小节的空白了。不过要是你这么说的话我就稍微改一点。在00:55:717 - 加了note跟随鼓点

ak74 wrote:

[HD'']
01:05:831 - 和 01:16:803 - 这两根绿线好像没用啊 ok
00:55:203 (1,2,3) - 这里的节奏比后面的类似地方的节奏要简单,感觉有点怪,我推荐和01:08:574 (1,2,3,4) - 或者 01:14:060 (1,2,3) - 啥的保持一致 看了hw的摸略做了修改
thanks to all

update
http://puu.sh/qiBy2/1b87152391.txt
Zweib

Hollow Wings wrote:

m4m

NM''

  1. 00:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 如今的社区对N难度出现这种复杂节奏是表示不给过的态度的,建议简化节奏,也就是说不要gap不同的节奏混杂在一起。01:16:803 (1) - 开始同理。01:53:488 (2,3) - 这种也是。
  2. 你这N的break比E还多啊,估计会被挑。
好像不知道怎么改,再等等看别人怎么说吧
Mafumafu
Hi!
[General]
似乎没有用到 drum-hitwhistle7.wav

normal-hitwhistle.wav 28.46ms
soft-hitwhistle3.wav 28.46ms
现在规定音效文件必须有100ms长

drum-hitclap7.wav
drum-hitfinish.wav
drum-hitfinish2.wav
drum-hitfinish7.wav
drum-hitwhistle3.wav
drum-hitwhistle7.wav
normal-hitfinish12.wav
soft-hitfinish7.wav
这些音效文件的开头可能存在大于5ms的空白,根据rank图规则需要剪掉。
[EZ]
00:44:231 (1) - 有点太靠下了 建议调整一下整体布局
00:49:717 (2) - 这种形状最好不要出现在EZ难度里

[NM]
看起来更像一个Advanced而不是NM
00:27:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 对于NM来说有点太难了,更像是Advanced的节奏和pattern
中间不要放那么多Break
01:19:203 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这么难的节奏现在应该不让用在NM了
01:29:831 (5,6,7) - NM不要叠这么多 01:29:831 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 整个节奏应该不适合NM
还有很多就不写出来了现在应该不让用这么复杂的节奏了

建议整体改一下或者改名叫Advanced
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抱歉我不太会摸这种图风。
Topic Starter
[Mahua]

Regraz wrote:

Hi!
[General]
似乎没有用到 drum-hitwhistle7.wav 用了的

normal-hitwhistle.wav 28.46ms
soft-hitwhistle3.wav 28.46ms
现在规定音效文件必须有100ms长 改了

drum-hitclap7.wav
drum-hitfinish.wav
drum-hitfinish2.wav
drum-hitfinish7.wav
drum-hitwhistle3.wav 改了
drum-hitwhistle7.wav 改了
normal-hitfinish12.wav 改了
soft-hitfinish7.wav 改了
这些音效文件的开头可能存在大于5ms的空白,根据rank图规则需要剪掉。

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抱歉我不太会摸这种图风。
Koiyuki
  1. Just some complaints.
  2. My personal suggestions.
  3. Highly recommended.
  4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
  1. Found unused .wav files:
    - drum-hitwhistle3.wav
    - drum-hitwhistle7.wav
    - drum-hitclap3.wav


NM"
  1. 01:43:374 (3) - 感觉拆成一个note和一个1/1滑条更好
  2. 01:54:346 (3) - ^


IN"
  1. 02:12:860 (2) - 要么nc下?我第一次打的时候直接误读1/2,毕竟这里1/2的音也很清晰


BE"
  1. 00:33:431 (2) - 结尾那个音效……听上去有点怪
  2. 01:43:546 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 这段感觉你狂塞1/4,和其他部分差别太大了,没啥必要吧
Topic Starter
[Mahua]

Minakami Yuki wrote:

  1. Just some complaints.
  2. My personal suggestions.
  3. Highly recommended.
  4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
  1. Found unused .wav files:
    - drum-hitwhistle3.wav
    be难度00:32:746 -
    - drum-hitwhistle7.wav00:32:746 -
    - drum-hitclap3.wavbe难度的00:33:260 -


IN"
  1. 02:12:860 (2) - 要么nc下?我第一次打的时候直接误读1/2,毕竟这里1/2的音也很清晰 ok


BE"
  1. 00:33:431 (2) - 结尾那个音效……听上去有点怪
  2. 01:43:546 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 这段感觉你狂塞1/4,和其他部分差别太大了,没啥必要吧 这一段基本都是solo的感觉啊 而且前面有这么一段01:40:460 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 如果不可以的话我再想想
IamKwaN
瓜子第一條改了 第二條是為了配合這set其他難度的jb 233
謝啦
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TitleUnicode:HELIX
Artist:ESTi
ArtistUnicode:ESTi
Creator:[Mahua]
Version:EZ''
Source:O2Jam Analog
Tags:O2JAM U Zweib IamKwaN Flower SIN Official Productions DUB and bloody BASS
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Zweib
热瓜子书得对,我也觉得有点难了,几个地方都稍微nerf了一点不知道行不行

yuki: 感觉拆了就更难了,只一根滑条的话感觉新手可能打起来会有点意外但应该不会吃屎

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381,135,125146,2,0,L|390:201,1,50.000000298023,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,222,125488,2,0,P|410:274|373:318,1,100.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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94,215,127203,2,0,L|61:144,1,50.000000298023,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,137,127546,2,0,L|115:64,1,50.000000298023,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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244,60,128231,2,0,L|347:58,1,100.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
397,142,128917,6,0,L|281:144,1,100.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,162,129432,2,0,P|242:214|268:266,1,100.000000596046,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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280,347,130288,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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154,308,130975,2,0,L|37:309,1,100.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
18,215,131660,5,4,0:0:0:0:
55,122,132003,1,8,0:0:0:0:
55,122,132175,2,0,L|168:125,1,100.000000596046,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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299,100,133031,2,0,L|312:180,1,50.000000298023,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,134574,12,0,138517,0:0:0:0:
Koiyuki
不知道为什么把你的绿线往前移了一格就不报unused hitsounds了……
估计有不知道怎么回事的毫秒误差,最好移动一下绿线
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Minakami Yuki wrote:

不知道为什么把你的绿线往前移了一格就不报unused hitsounds了……
估计有不知道怎么回事的毫秒误差,最好移动一下绿线
好 改了
Koiyuki
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