Got a pm from a very angry guy, let me post it here for him because discussion is important. Formatted it nicely for him too, ain't I nice.
Whirl wrote:
jesse1412 wrote:
Mapping has been changing consistently for the last 10 years. Standard mode DEFINITELY hasn't been the same for long at all, the evolution of mapping styles has been an astronomically larger change than adding double notes. Take a look at maps from across the ages and tell me things have stayed the same. Just because a new feature for mappers to use is being implemented doesn't mean the meta is going to change at an unprecendented rate (and even if it did, it would be for the better. Mappers wouldn't use them if players hated them). You say osu! has been the same for years and shouldn't change yet you haven't even been here for one year to experience all the changes that've happened. I assume you've never tried to play (or are unable to play maps that use) "double" notes because otherwise you would know that they play very intuitively. It really doesn't require any special thinking to hit these kinds of notes and it integrates seamlessly into a map when used well.
I'm beyond confident that the majority of people would agree to this implementation. Most people know that not every map will instantly start using these notes, most people probably even find the idea fun. You're essentially saying "you can't have your new feature because I don't want to play maps that might use it. If a map uses something that I don't like then no one should be allowed to play it!! waaa!!!!!!!". Most people don't like square patterns and quads, should we remove those from all maps because YOU dislike them? Of course not.
It seems pretty clear to me that you don't know how features in this game work when you say that "I already KNOW it's not going to be implemented in the game because too many people dislike it. thats all." You weren't here when hit circle fade out got changed, or slider tick fading got changed, or scorev2 was first used in tournament settings, or peppy created his second pp ranking system instead of using tp, or when the chat fonts were changed. There a lot of things people didn't want, but peppy said "fuck you guys this will be better"; and you know what? He was right. Stop stagnating the game and try to embrace something new for once.
okay thats what you said about me first of all standard has not changed
yes maybe the mapping has but the actual game hasn't, standard is circles sliders and spinners, nothing ahs changed about it since
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if your beyond confident that the majority of people would like this idea than why don't you do a poll? Like I said this will all stop if you do a poll (kind of), cause i'm preyy confident that this won't actually happen. If you don't wanna do a poll cause your too scared too then why even try and make this implemented in the game?
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you wrote:
jesse1412 wrote:
You're essentially saying "you can't have your new feature because I don't want to play maps that might use it. If a map uses something that I don't like then no one should be allowed to play it!! waaa!!!!!!!". Most people don't like square patterns and quads, should we remove those from all maps because YOU dislike them? Of course not.
I get what your trying too say here but I didn't say that, I said 'why don't you do a poll and see what the resault is? If more people say yes then keep on trying to implement this in the game, if more people say no just shut up and stop'
your essentially saying 'It's gurantee that more people will like this implement so I won't make a poll' just because u think it might not always be true
ass hole.
Obviously I have to respond, it's my nature.
Whirl wrote:
okay thats what you said about me first of all standard has not changed
yes maybe the mapping has but the actual game hasn't, standard is circles sliders and spinners, nothing ahs changed about it since
The shift in mapping is essential a change in the game. It plays very differently, double notes seem like a far more seamless transition than the flow from old mapping to new, the game has been changing vastly and to argue otherwise is quite silly in my opinion.
Whirl wrote:
if your beyond confident that the majority of people would like this idea than why don't you do a poll? Like I said this will all stop if you do a poll (kind of), cause i'm preyy confident that this won't actually happen. If you don't wanna do a poll cause your too scared too then why even try and make this implemented in the game?
I didn't add a poll because it's too late to add one "asshole", don't accuse me of being scared of peoples opinions. They're just that, opinions. I would obviously like to know everyone's opinions. Your argument though is very annoying, if we needed a poll to see if everyone agreed with every feature we'd have one automatically made, but we don't. Don't insult me whilst also being clueless about what your accusing me of.
Whirl wrote:
jesse1412 wrote:
You're essentially saying "you can't have your new feature because I don't want to play maps that might use it. If a map uses something that I don't like then no one should be allowed to play it!! waaa!!!!!!!". Most people don't like square patterns and quads, should we remove those from all maps because YOU dislike them? Of course not.
I get what your trying too say here but I didn't say that, I said 'why don't you do a poll and see what the resault is? If more people say yes then keep on trying to implement this in the game, if more people say no just shut up and stop'
your essentially saying 'It's gurantee that more people will like this implement so I won't make a poll' just because u think it might not always be true
I already mentioned why I "just adding a poll" isn't something I can do, but I'd also like to add that the reason I'm so confident that amajority would prefer the addition of the feature is because I've spoken to plenty of people about it. I've played longer than you, I've seen more maps than you, I've spoken to more people than you; it makes sense that I would have a fair understanding of what the community has found enjoyable over the past 7 years, despite your beliefs that you are the all knowing newbie. The request has tons of stars which represent interest, features aren't thrown away unless they could actually be considered annoying to certain people. This kind of request is COMPLETELY IGNOREABLE, if you don't want it you can ignore it. Stop shitting on the things other people want (and have spent their own stars promoting) when it's literally not going to effect you. The interest is clearly there, people have paid money to have their opinion shown.
Whirl wrote:
ass hole.