Whirl wrote:
Okay you answered my questions so I reconsidered
it's still a dumb idea
standard has been the same for MANY years, jesse1412 I don't think this is going to happen
I already KNOW it's not going to be implemented in the game because
A.too many people dislike it. thats all
peppy (or other osu designers I don't know) aren't going to change something in osu that too many people don't like
to prove me wrong AND too finish this forum i'd like too see a poll, 'do you like this idea, yes or no' and if more people say no it's done. No more trying to convince people or anything
if more people say yes then keep trying to implement this in the game
Mapping has been changing consistently for the last 10 years. Standard mode DEFINITELY hasn't been the same for long at all, the evolution of mapping styles has been an astronomically larger change than adding double notes. Take a look at maps from across the ages and tell me things have stayed the same. Just because a new feature for mappers to use is being implemented doesn't mean the meta is going to change at an unprecendented rate (and even if it did, it would be for the better. Mappers wouldn't use them if players hated them). You say osu! has been the same for years and shouldn't change yet you haven't even been here for one year to experience all the changes that've happened. I assume you've never tried to play (or are unable to play maps that use) "double" notes because otherwise you would know that they play very intuitively. It really doesn't require any special thinking to hit these kinds of notes and it integrates seamlessly into a map when used well.
I'm beyond confident that the majority of people would agree to this implementation. Most people know that not every map will instantly start using these notes, most people probably even find the idea fun. You're essentially saying "you can't have your new feature because I don't want to play maps that might use it. If a map uses something that I don't like then no one should be allowed to play it!! waaa!!!!!!!". Most people don't like square patterns and quads, should we remove those from all maps because YOU dislike them? Of course not.
It seems pretty clear to me that you don't know how features in this game work when you say that "I already KNOW it's not going to be implemented in the game because too many people dislike it. thats all." You weren't here when hit circle fade out got changed, or slider tick fading got changed, or scorev2 was first used in tournament settings, or peppy created his second pp ranking system instead of using tp, or when the chat fonts were changed. There a lot of things people didn't want, but peppy said "fuck you guys this will be better"; and you know what? He was right. Stop stagnating the game and try to embrace something new for once.
Riari wrote:
There are around ~5,000 RANKED beatmaps right now.
Not counting the larger number of maps that aren't ranked but are still playable, if this request is not for you there is still content and will forever be content for you to play.
If it is added, it's not a requirement to put it in your beatmap.
If it is added, it's not required to play any beatmaps with it in.
Arguing that osu! has been fine for all these years without it makes no sense, just because the game functions well doesn't mean you can't make it function better.
All very logical and strong arguments, ties in with: "you can't have your new feature because I don't want to play maps that might use it. If a map uses something that I don't like then no one should be allowed to play it!! waaa!!!!!!!"
My main concern comes (as someone who plays every mode except standard) from how this would convert. Whilst it's not exactly a top priority or anything most likely, it's still important in my opinion. In CtB, I assume it would just act as if there were 2 fruits stacked on top of each other, but Taiko and Mania, I'm not sure how it would work.
Reasonable concerns. Not sure how to handle them for CTB and mania, possibly just convert them like a standard note?