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Nanahira - Poka poka Shiteru Dake

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Lumin
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Joined July 2014
Lumin

Secretpipe wrote:

[Lumin's Light Insane]
  1. 00:13:335 (1,4) - is this overlap on purpose? this would seem much cleaner to me Didn't even notice that, ty
  2. 00:30:062 (5,6) - I suggest spacing this a bit higher to express the additional sound here, currently you barely have to move at all between 00:30:062 (5,6,1) because of slider-leniency, please take that into consideration Changed by adding more spacing between sliders, hope it's okay
  3. 00:34:971 (6,1,2) - This is a very uncomfortable way of changing the spacing because the player just moves in one straight line but has to forcefully change the speed at which he's going, I recommend spacing (6,1) higher already since that would make more sense emphasis-wise too Fair enough
  4. 00:40:244 (4,5,6) - The vocals are repeating themselves here but you mapped it very differently, that doesn't make much sense to me Okay then, there was so many sliders in this section so I tried to variate a bit but this is reasonable enough.
  5. 00:41:699 (4,1) - Why did you space this so low? This forced slowdown is again very uncomfortable to play, and it doesn't emphasize (1) at all, which imo should be emphasized more than the rest Added more spacing
  6. 00:49:153 (5,6) - The spacing here could be bigger to emphasize that strong sound on (6); also, have you thought about adding a circle at 00:49:426 -? Emphasized the spacing between 5 and 6 but not adding note on that sound because this is focused on that instrument, not in vocals in this part so it would just be weird to suddenly follow vocals after, keep this
  7. 00:51:699 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - I don't understand your spacing, it puts more emphasis on (6) and (8) than on (5) (7) and (1), why? I don't see any reason to emphasize the offbeats
    repeats at 00:52:971 (2,3,4,5,6,1) Fixed them in someway (they were pain in the ass change tho) but I think that they are okay now
    Generally the aesthetics look a bit unpolished since there are many notes that just seem cramped onto others for no reason :(
    I KNOW I know I am bad in terms of aesthetics but learning that every day ;)
Good luck~
Thank you!

Eliaksen p*ppeli
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Title:Poka poka Shiteru Dake
TitleUnicode:ぽかぽかしてるだけ
Artist:Nanahira
ArtistUnicode:ななひら
Creator:SherryCherry
Version:Lumin's Light Insane
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Tags:[Panda619] Nattu HoloOfficial Lumin neko
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619
409 posts
Joined May 2015
619

Desperate-kun wrote:

[Hard]

AR also feels a bit too high. 7 or 7.5 would fit better here. Also, OD and HP are very far from the AR. They could be a bit higher then. - fixed to AR = 7.5, HP = 5.5, OD 6
Otherwise nice map :) :)
619
409 posts
Joined May 2015
619

Secretpipe wrote:

[619's Hard]
  1. 00:08:608 (3) - 00:10:062 (3) - I'm lacking differentiation between these two different patterns, why not replace the first one with two circles like you did at 00:11:517 (3,4) -? - I do not know why, but at that moment, and even now, I like it
  2. Since you NC'd 00:12:971 (1) I would also NC 00:24:608 (2) -Yes - Also, it seems a bit weird to me to stack that on 00:23:517 (1) since it's a completely different sound. Also, 00:24:880 is overmapped, so why not silence it? Sounds weird to have a hitsound there imo - fixed
  3. 00:28:971 (4,1,2) - This doesn't represent that there are no vocals on (1), have you thought about letting (4) reverse once? - done to the rhythm, but something fixed
  4. 00:30:244 - Seems weird to me to not have anything where when there's both vocals and that special sound in the music, how about putting a red slider-anchor there, like this? Or maybe a rhythm like this since you mapped that sound at 00:36:426 too? - yes, changed some things
  5. 00:46:062 (3) - Why are you overmapping this, you could put 1/4s at00:45:789 or 00:45:971 instead because those would actually exist in the song - fixed
  6. 00:59:880 (6) - NC please ^^ -yes ^^
[Panderry619's Normal]
  1. 00:23:517 (3) - missing NC - fixed
  2. Is the Clap at 00:53:880 a mistake? If not then I'd advise you to either delete it or add it at 00:50:971 and 00:55:335 too to keep it consistent, otherwise the rhythm-choice doesn't make much sense -fixed
  3. 00:10:062 (3,1) - Spacing is a little bit too low ^^ - fixed
619
409 posts
Joined May 2015
619
UPDATE

HARD
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tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

Desperate-kun wrote:

Modded via irc.
[Normal]

The AR feels way too high here. This Normal is really simple, so AR4 should be enough.+
00:53:629 - Missing clap.

The main problem here is that the difficulty gap to Hard is too big. You should add some 1/2 tapping to this difficulty, to make it a bit harder. What I mean is, you are already using objects snapped to 1/2-ticks, but it's only sliders to the players don't need to tap to 1/2. Best places to do this are in the chorus imo:
00:15:992 - You could add a circle here.
00:21:810 - ^
00:52:356 - ^
00:56:719 - ^
These are just examples, you can increase the density at different spots instead, if you want. Remember to adjust the placement of the notes if you do it.
I consider it too strange





It's nice to see some newer mappers unite and make a mapset like this :b Call me back when everything got replied!
Many thanks!
Last edited by tatemae , edited 2 times in total.
Nattu
148 posts
Joined August 2012
Nattu

Secretpipe wrote:



[Nattu's Insane]
  1. 00:03:153 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really see why the spacing is so big here, looking at the other combos it seems like you generally try to put emphasis on the last four notes of each combo, but that doesn't really work when you space this one so big already, you didn't space it that big anywhere else either o: +
  2. I'd advise you to enable viewing Auto-Stacking in the editor, it ruins some of your blankets, for example 00:07:517 (1,2,3,5) actually looks like , or 00:08:608 (6,2,3,4) looks like [url=http://puu.sh/qiEzL/2b633da67c.jpg]this and I don't think that that's your intention ^^ Just enable that and go through your diff again, there are a few more places where that happens +
  3. I strongly dislike that you overmap notes like 00:15:244 and 00:21:062 -, these slider-patterns need much faster movement than all the other patterns at the equivalent sections, and that loud hitsound is really disturbing tbh +
  4. 00:30:062 (3,4) - Spacing and flow seems weird here since it's so easy, I'd suggest either making the spacing bigger or changing the direction in which (4) is going, the previous three sliders always had sharp direction changes but this one has none at all which plays a bit uncomfortably to me +
  5. I really miss differentiation at 00:32:971 (3,4) and 00:42:426 (1,2) as there are two seperate, strong sounds on the second of those sliders whereas the first one only has one holding sound, would be cool if you could replace the second ones with circle +
  6. Spacing sliders with 1/4 between them so much at 00:17:699 (1,2,3) - 00:51:153 (1,2,3) and 00:54:062 (1,2,3) seems very flawed to me, you basically just used the exact same spacing as you would've used if there was no 1/4 in-between, which makes them rather confusing to read, and it requires a much much faster movement that seems uncalled for, but then you even stopped spacing them so much at 00:56:971 (1,2,3) and 00:58:426 (1,2,3) which makes it inconsistent too - I strongly recommend to reduce the spacing of those first three timestamps to make this map feel more balanced +
I remaped 75% my diff with all your recommendations and comments. Thank you very much!
riffy
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2010
riffy
Ancient evil has been awoken from its eternal sleep as per Nattu's request.

I see that Nao is planning something for this map, so I'll mod in English to make changes tracking easier.

[General]
  1. Is the BG intended to look this way? Looks pretty weird on 4:3 and 5:4 displays, so you might want to change something about it or chagne the BG itself for a one that would look neater with non 16:9 dsplays.
  2. The echo on soft-hitfinish makes the hitsound feel pretty long and doesn't go too well with a relatively fast-paced song. Maybe reduce the echo or get rid of it?
[HoloOfficial's Easy]
  1. 00:01:699 - there are two lines with concurrrent volume levels. Try to fix that by removing the extra one or making volume settings equal, if the green line changes something.
  2. Just to balance the things within the set and match velocity/ds with the Approach Rate, I would recommend AR2. Seems to be working slightly better.
  3. 00:15:517 - 00:14:062 - 00:18:426 - 00:21:335 - 00:51:880 - 00:54:789 - 00:57:699 - The way these "poka poka" vocals pop up in the middle of the slider feels pretty forced even for the easiest difficulty. I liked the way 00:16:971 (2,3) -this pattern worked. Maybe we could do more patterns like this? I tried to work with your rhythm and got this. So, if you want some variety, you have a couple more patterns to try.

    Nothing much to say. I just don't really agree with the way you handle vocals during kiai times. It's a neat difficulty.
[Normal]
  1. 00:01:699 - there are two lines with concurrrent volume levels. Try to fix that by removing the extra one or making volume settings equal, if the green line changes something.
  2. 00:13:335 (1,3) - not really fond of this overlap. With the low AR you are using it feels rather untidy.
  3. 00:53:335 (2,3,1) - the transition between (2) and (3) seems to be forced. I'd rather go for a pattern like this. (3) and (2) would go in the same directio as they follow pretty similar lines of the vocals. And then there is a nice transition to (1). Though this would require a few re-arrangements.

    Feels like low AR does not match the difficulty and its speed. AOart from that it is all cool. Maybe you should try AR5 or 4,5?
[619's Hard]
  1. 00:01:699 - there are two lines with concurrrent volume levels. Try to fix that by removing the extra one or making volume settings equal, if the green line changes something.
  2. 00:02:244 (2,3) - why is there a jump between these two, but no jump 00:03:699 (2,3) - here, 00:05:153 (2,3) - here, 00:06:608 (2,3) - and here? Provided that the intro itself is very repetive, this inconsistency doesn't make much sense. Try to keep your jumps consistent.
  3. 00:10:062 - there is no way to read the SV change here. No new combo, no sliderticks. There is nothing that would hint the players to go faster.Add a new combo here to stress the velocity change? Or start using Tick Rate 2, it would emphasise the drums and increase readability in general.
  4. 00:20:971 (2,5,1) - looks like tacking does not work well here. I would avoid this kind of stacks as they do not look too good because of the overlaps with hitbursts and because they also loop the flow, making it feel less dynamic.
  5. 00:40:971 (1) - would be pretty neat if the curve could start at the point where vocals begin. At this point it feels pretty random. here's an example o something that I believe to work better.

    Is there a reason why the identical kiais use different slider velocity? It would make sense if you had at least three or four of them, to stress the last one, but since there are just two it makes the map feel inconsistent.
[Lumin's Light Insane]
  1. The hitsounds on the intro feel pretty heavy and loud. I don't personally think they should be done this way. Try reducing the volume or using a different sampleset?
  2. Is there a reason why the spacing values are so high and inconsistent in the intro? 00:02:426 (4,5) - x1,8 here, 00:03:517 (4,6) - x1,6 and it continues variating through the whole intro. First of all, it makes the sliders feel consideraably slower, adding a "heavy" feeling to them. And not only this, it also feels pretty heavy for the intro part. Consider lowering DS here, so that the main part would feel more emphasised in comparison with the intro.
  3. Why is one kiai faster than the other? The kiais sound practically identical, it would make a lot more sense to keep the velocity consistent for both parts.

    I disagree with the spacing in the intro and the velocity you use in kiais. Apart from that it feels quite alright, although a few more mods to keep things more consistent wouldn't hurt.
[Nattu's Insane]
  1. 00:02:426 (6,7,8,9) - they follow almost identical piano pitch, try to use spacing values that would match it closer? Try to match spacing with the way instruments go a bit closer? example
    Note: the example is very messy, you can make it neater or even symmetrical, if you agree with the idea of using this kind of spacing.
  2. 00:09:698 (5,6) - and there could be a good jump between these two. The bass sound you map with (6) can surely benefit from a bigger jump.
  3. 00:20:608 (1,2,3,4) - don't just drop the jumps, add a little jump here to prevend sudden spacing changes. The sudden stop here feels pretty confusing.
  4. 00:24:244 (6,1) - with the high Ar it can be misread and clicked too early. Move it away for a more intuitively-playable pattern?
  5. 00:30:426 (4) - a stack here slows the players down, feels a bit unnatural. Ues bigger spacing to keep things more dynamic? example
    Note: you can even do something like 00:42:062 (7,1) - just make sure you don't make the jumps too big.
  6. 00:46:789 (1) - a spinner would do a lot better. It'd make the players move a lot faster and reflect the long vocals a lot more accurately.
  7. 00:48:244 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I see it in the opposite way. Use lower spacing values here, so when the kiai starts it feels a lot more epic. Intense jump you have in that quiet part kinda buff that effect.

    Most of these things are pretty minor flow improvements. I actually enjoyed the difficulty.
[Nyan]
I haven't head a single word about cats or anything of that kind. Is there really a neaning behind using the Japanese word for "meow" as the difficulty's name?
  1. 00:28:971 (6,1) - try to avoid sudden spacing reductions. This can be easily misread as 1/2 pattern.
  2. 00:44:426 (4,5) - there was not a single sing of spacing increase before, this can be misread as an 1/1 pattern. Either keep the DS consistent, or make 00:43:880 (1,2,3,4) - jumpy as well, to make 4-5 jump more logical.

    Could use another look from you, as the issues I've mention might repeat themselves in more than just ne pattern. Apart from tht it is quite alright.
Seems pretty bice for a first ranked set. Good luck with the map!

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Best of luck!
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae
Fixed all.
Изменил на Baka и поставил другое бг.
Спасибо, Дядя Бакари:))
Lyrics
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
minna o pokapoka desu toroi 

o hi sa ma pokapoka nekoron de 
o futon fuka fuka hirune hiyori 
shukudai dat tara owat ta shi 
dare ni mo ojama ha sa se nai no 

onabe ga kotokoto oto tate te 
onaka ga gūgū mama ga yobu no 
tēburu ni narabu o sara mi te 
koko zo to bakari ni hataki wareru 

( ā sukkiri ) 

migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
minna o pokapoka desu toroi 

yozora ni kirakira o hoshi sama 
houki de pukapuka yume no naka de 
fushigi na usa san araware te 
mahou no kuni made randebū 

watashi ha madamada yume no naka 
kotori ga chunchun bi ga nobot te 
ohayou rinrin mezamashi o 
koko zo to bakari ni hataki wareru 

( datte urusai n da mon!) 

migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
migite de pokapoka hidarite de pokapoka 
minna o pokapoka desu toroi
Lumin
224 posts
Joined July 2014
Lumin
LoL doubleposted my answer accidently.
Last edited by Lumin , edited 1 time in total.
Lumin
224 posts
Joined July 2014
Lumin
This is the kind of mod that my map needs

Bakari wrote:

[Lumin's Light Insane]
  1. The hitsounds on the intro feel pretty heavy and loud. I don't personally think they should be done this way. Try reducing the volume or using a different sampleset? Oh shit. Totally not intentional, why did I even have them so high in the first place? Maybe forgot but I fixed them now.
  2. Is there a reason why the spacing values are so high and inconsistent in the intro? 00:02:426 (4,5) - x1,8 here, 00:03:517 (4,6) - x1,6 and it continues variating through the whole intro. First of all, it makes the sliders feel consideraably slower, adding a "heavy" feeling to them. And not only this, it also feels pretty heavy for the intro part. Consider lowering DS here, so that the main part would feel more emphasised in comparison with the intro. Thank you for clear and proper explanation about the biggest flaw of my map! I remapped almost the whole first half of the map.
  3. Why is one kiai faster than the other? The kiais sound practically identical, it would make a lot more sense to keep the velocity consistent for both parts.
    I don't even know, like really. Changed first kiai to 1.1x too and fixed a lot of patterns and jumps
    I disagree with the spacing in the intro and the velocity you use in kiais. Apart from that it feels quite alright, although a few more mods to keep things more consistent wouldn't hurt.
Thank you for the mod! Really helpful! :)

Difficulty raised 0.02 stars omg :o
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HoloOfficial
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HoloOfficial
HoloOfficial's Easy is UPDATED!

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619
409 posts
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619

Bakari wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:01:699 - there are two lines with concurrrent volume levels. Try to fix that by removing the extra one or making volume settings equal, if the green line changes something. - fixed
  2. 00:13:335 (1,3) - not really fond of this overlap. With the low AR you are using it feels rather untidy. - we think and decide what to do
  3. 00:53:335 (2,3,1) - the transition between (2) and (3) seems to be forced. I'd rather go for a pattern like this. (3) and (2) would go in the same directio as they follow pretty similar lines of the vocals. And then there is a nice transition to (1). Though this would require a few re-arrangements. - we thought and decided to leave it as it is

    Feels like low AR does not match the difficulty and its speed. AOart from that it is all cool. Maybe you should try AR5 or 4,5? - changed to 4.5


[619's Hard]
  1. 00:01:699 - there are two lines with concurrrent volume levels. Try to fix that by removing the extra one or making volume settings equal, if the green line changes something. - fixed
  2. 00:02:244 (2,3) - why is there a jump between these two, but no jump 00:03:699 (2,3) - here, 00:05:153 (2,3) - here, 00:06:608 (2,3) - and here? Provided that the intro itself is very repetive, this inconsistency doesn't make much sense. Try to keep your jumps consistent. - fixed
  3. 00:10:062 - there is no way to read the SV change here. No new combo, no sliderticks. There is nothing that would hint the players to go faster.Add a new combo here to stress the velocity change? Or start using Tick Rate 2, it would emphasise the drums and increase readability in general. - fixed
  4. 00:20:971 (2,5,1) - looks like tacking does not work well here. I would avoid this kind of stacks as they do not look too good because of the overlaps with hitbursts and because they also loop the flow, making it feel less dynamic. - fixed
  5. 00:40:971 (1) - would be pretty neat if the curve could start at the point where vocals begin. At this point it feels pretty random. here's an example o something that I believe to work better. - fixed some things

    Is there a reason why the identical kiais use different slider velocity? It would make sense if you had at least three or four of them, to stress the last one, but since there are just two it makes the map feel inconsistent. - I think the second dynamic of the first kiai
Thx for mod!

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DeletedUser_6181859
а чо с таймингом натворили?
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

100bit wrote:

а чо с таймингом натворили?
в смысле?
меняли аудио, правда
может оффсет шалит +-1 хз
try redl
Last edited by tatemae , edited 1 time in total.
Froskya
1,231 posts
Joined April 2014
Froskya
Hi!~ NM from my queue!~

HoloOfficial's Normal

  1. 00:32:244 (4,1) - выглядит не очень, подними конец слайдера немного вверх

Lumin's Light Insane

  1. 00:03:699 (5) - delete whitsle (Normal - Soft)
  2. 00:03:880 (6) - add whistle (Normal - Soft)
  3. 00:42:062 (1) - delete NC
  4. 00:46:789 (1) - ^

Nattu's Insane

  1. 00:15:335 (1) - удали НК
  2. 00:16:971 (1) - ^
  3. 00:31:153 (1) - ^
  4. 00:32:971 (1) - ^
  5. 01:00:608 (1) - ^
  6. 00:16:244 (6) - НК

Baka

  1. 00:12:971 (5) - НК

Good Luck!~ :-)
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

Revialink wrote:

Hi!~ NM from my queue!~



Baka

  1. 00:12:971 (5) - НК
Да, там ченжится св, и нк стояло раньше, но бн сказал убрать, мол переспам нк. В целом, я и сам согласен с этим, много нк не оч.

Good Luck!~ :-)
Благодарю!
HoloOfficial
34 posts
Joined July 2015
HoloOfficial

Revialink wrote:

Hi!~ NM from my queue!~

HoloOfficial's Normal

  1. 00:32:244 (4,1) - выглядит не очень, подними конец слайдера немного вверх -ok



Good Luck!~ :-)
Lumin
224 posts
Joined July 2014
Lumin

Revialink wrote:

Lumin's Light Insane

  1. 00:03:699 (5) - delete whitsle (Normal - Soft) My bad
  2. 00:03:880 (6) - add whistle (Normal - Soft) ^
  3. 00:42:062 (1) - delete NC Slider velocity change = New Combo
  4. 00:46:789 (1) - ^ Nope, too lazy to explain why
Thank you!

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rs_fadeaway
264 posts
Joined May 2010
rs_fadeaway
privet）as kyky's request

[Normal]
00:53:335 (2,3,1) - this flow looks sharp,and pattern kinda crowd

[619]
00:10:062 (3) - NC for remind SV change
00:24:608 (2) - ^

[Lumin]
00:12:971 (1) - as SV changing,this slider is too normal, mb try this or some else
00:24:608 (1) - ^
00:57:699 (6,7,8,9) - 8 and 9 is too close, try to balance them
00:59:880 (1,2) - too close,consider this

[Nattu]
00:31:153 (1) - remove this NC
00:41:335 (4,5) - too close,at least make it same as 00:40:971 (1,2) -
00:59:335 (6,7) - too close, don't get the music change

[Baka]
00:16:244 (1,2) - why not make them symmetry
00:16:971 (3,4) - this DS should be less than 00:17:153 (4,5) -
00:18:426 (3,4,5) - same here ^
00:35:517 (2,3) - dont suggest to make these stack,its so suddenly, and this map style are symmetry and jump
00:46:062 (3,4) - DS++
00:48:971 (6,7,1) - could improve the symmetry

Удачи :)
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

rs_fadeaway wrote:

privet）as kyky's request

[Baka]
00:16:244 (1,2) - why not make them symmetry i dont like full summetricl maps
00:16:971 (3,4) - this DS should be less than 00:17:153 (4,5) - change in other
00:18:426 (3,4,5) - same here ^ ^
00:35:517 (2,3) - dont suggest to make these stack,its so suddenly, and this map style are symmetry and jump same as above, full symmetry too boring
00:46:062 (3,4) - DS++ okay
00:48:971 (6,7,1) - could improve the symmetry nouu

[Normal]
00:53:335 (2,3,1) - this flow looks sharp,and pattern kinda crowd Is it normal.I in something agree with you, but I don't consider it necessary to change it


Удачи :)
Спасибо <3
и куку тоже )
Last edited by tatemae , edited 1 time in total.
Lumin
224 posts
Joined July 2014
Lumin

rs_fadeaway wrote:

[Lumin]
00:12:971 (1) - as SV changing,this slider is too normal, mb try this or some else Nope, It takes the purity from the map by then and that looks ugly
00:24:608 (1) - ^ Nope
00:57:699 (6,7,8,9) - 8 and 9 is too close, try to balance them Lol my bad, fixed
00:59:880 (1,2) - too close,consider this Nope
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Nattu
148 posts
Joined August 2012
Nattu

Bakari wrote:

[Nattu's Insane]
  1. 00:02:426 (6,7,8,9) - they follow almost identical piano pitch, try to use spacing values that would match it closer? Try to match spacing with the way instruments go a bit closer? example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5760617 - its idea of the beginning, wouldn't change it :(
    Note: the example is very messy, you can make it neater or even symmetrical, if you agree with the idea of using this kind of spacing.
  2. 00:09:698 (5,6) - and there could be a good jump between these two. The bass sound you map with (6) can surely benefit from a bigger jump. good for playing, idk, no need jump on this i think
  3. 00:20:608 (1,2,3,4) - don't just drop the jumps, add a little jump here to prevend sudden spacing changes. The sudden stop here feels pretty confusing. fix
  4. 00:24:244 (6,1) - with the high Ar it can be misread and clicked too early. Move it away for a more intuitively-playable pattern? fix
  5. 00:30:426 (4) - a stack here slows the players down, feels a bit unnatural. Ues bigger spacing to keep things more dynamic? example fix
    Note: you can even do something like 00:42:062 (7,1) - just make sure you don't make the jumps too big.
  6. 00:46:789 (1) - a spinner would do a lot better. It'd make the players move a lot faster and reflect the long vocals a lot more accurately. no spiiin plss ;_;
  7. 00:48:244 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I see it in the opposite way. Use lower spacing values here, so when the kiai starts it feels a lot more epic. Intense jump you have in that quiet part kinda buff that effect. idk, maybe need nerf this spacing. no changes rn
Спасибо за мод <3

Revialink wrote:

Nattu's Insane

  1. 00:15:335 (1) - удали НК
  2. 00:16:971 (1) - ^
  3. 00:31:153 (1) - ^
  4. 00:32:971 (1) - ^
  5. 01:00:608 (1) - ^
  6. 00:16:244 (6) - НК
исправил все НК, пока ремапал, завтыкал
Спасибо!

rs_fadeaway wrote:

[Nattu]
00:31:153 (1) - remove this NC fix
00:41:335 (4,5) - too close,at least make it same as 00:40:971 (1,2) - тут спейснг соответствует медленной части карты и громкости музыки по джампам
00:59:335 (6,7) - too close, don't get the music change fix
Spasibo! :)
619
409 posts
Joined May 2015
619

rs_fadeaway wrote:

[619]
00:10:062 (3) - NC for remind SV change - fixed
00:24:608 (2) - ^ - ^
Thx for mod!
Myxo
osu! Alumni
3,103 posts
Joined December 2012
Myxo
Congratz for your first Bubble! :3 You really deserve it for the hard work that went into this mapset.
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

Desperate-kun wrote:

Congratz for your first Bubble! :3 You really deserve it for the hard work that went into this mapset.
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HoloOfficial
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Namki
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Namki
Ура! Ждем кокоро.
tatemae
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Joined November 2014
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tatemae
лол
ну
вот
не
надо
так
(надо)
Shmiklak
Elite Storyboarder
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Shmiklak

Namki wrote:

Ура! Ждем кокоро.
tatemae
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tatemae
(っ●╭╮●)っ
Lully
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Lully
ғroм мy мoddιɴɢ qυeυe

αѕ ι proмιѕed ovo

ɢeɴerαl
remove hakurei reimu from the tags, just because she's in the bg doesn't means she must be in the tags ovo

luminsane
00:01:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try to rework that, looks all cramped.
00:26:244 (6) - fix blanket
00:36:153 - could add circle


coυdɴ'т ғιɴd мore, ѕorry.
cυтe нιтѕoυɴdѕ втw~
Lumin
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Lumin

CookieKivi wrote:

ғroм мy мoddιɴɢ qυeυe

αѕ ι proмιѕed ovo

ɢeɴerαl
remove hakurei reimu from the tags, just because she's in the bg doesn't means she must be in the tags ovo No -Sherry
And for my part, why couldn't it be there? It's part of the map anyways because it's in the bg of the map. There are some other maps ranked which also has bg related tags in them.

luminsane
00:01:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try to rework that, looks all cramped. Hmm, this is really subjective. I agree that it is a BIT more cramped than other jumps, but they don't overlap at all and it plays well, no change.
00:26:244 (6) - fix blanket Irrelevant nazism, doesn't really matter because they are so far away
00:36:153 - could add circle No, I'm following vocals there and that doesn't really have anything important sound there.


coυdɴ'т ғιɴd мore, ѕorry.
cυтe нιтѕoυɴdѕ втw~ Thanks
Namki
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Namki
owo
tatemae
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tatemae
нужно звать дашу следопыта, я, кажется, проебал бна
HappyRocket88
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HappyRocket88
Please, stop talking in Russian! I want to know what you guys say. ;w; No kudosu!

[ HoloOfficial's Beginner]
  1. Increase the value of the OD and the HP to 2 respectively. Having them over 1.5 feel s rather low compared with the actual rhythm you managed in the whole difficulty.
  2. 00:55:517 (1,2) - I'm sorry but I don't think this flows well according to the difficulty level you aimed to do here. The way I see things, the angle of curve creates a very awkward motion between these notes that might exert players to go into a forced transition. Therefore, what about if we tried up something like this instead?
    ^
[ Collab Normal]
  1. 00:06:062 (1,2,3) - These kind of anti-flows make very weird patterns to read and play, and do not fit well specially when they are over easier difficulties. I do believe managing a smoother flow would definitely improve the transition among these objects. Like this for example:
    ^
[ 619's Hard]
  1. 00:11:699 (4,1) - Distance between these should be higher as well as you did in the upcoming patterns
  2. 00:33:517 (6) - Remove this note to keep consistency in the way you mapped the previous patterns leaving a gap of the objects. Like 00:30:062 (5,1) - 00:26:426 (1,2) - Consider doing the same here: 00:39:335 (4) -
  3. 00:56:608 (5,6) - This is really unpredictable and might become uneven to players to 6 being stacked under (4). Consider trying another motion here. How about this?
    ^
  4. 00:58:426 (1) - vs 00:22:062 (1) - Variation is important but not when the rhythm is exactly the same over the two sections. I do believe managing the same rhythm among these segments. I'd go for the slider with the repeat since it fits well here. :3
[ Lumin's Light Insane]
  1. 00:49:335 (6) - This doesn't play bad but I think it wouldn't hurt to make it as a 1/2 slider as well as you did here 00:12:971 (1) - to keep consistency between both segments
  2. 00:11:880 (1,2,3) - Why the distance of this pattern is shorter than the previous ones 00:10:426 (1,2,3) - ? I do think it would be way better if you could keep the same distance over those objects.
  3. 00:27:880 (1,2,3,4) - Don't you think this jump-pattern style is rather high compared with the low spacing you managed over the whole segment? It doesn't flow bad but I'm not sure handling such as jumpy patterns over a calmer section would fit well here. Thus, I'd suggest lowering the DS to give a proper impact regarding the notes in matter.
  4. 00:27:699 - Consider adding a note here. It feels weird to leave such a a gap of 1/2 objects here when you didn't handle it in the upcoming sections. ;w;
  5. 00:53:335 (3,4,5,6,1) - I'm not sure if this jump-pattern was intentional because the spacing that it manages itself make a bit uglier motion among the objects. Wouldn't it be better if you used a star-jump pattern instead? o:
[ Nattu's Insane]
  1. 00:32:244 (1,2) - These should have higher spacing imo. It feels rather weird to have a lower distance when the overall section manages high density of jumps imo.
[ Baka]
  1. 00:53:335 (3,4,5,6) - This anti-flow creates a very awkward transition. The way I see things, there's no need to call up for variation when this pattern is pretty similar to the one you did here 00:54:789 (3,4,5,6) - I do believe making the same would fit this difficulty the best.
[]
That should be all! Call me at your earliest convenience to recheck. \:D/
Battle
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Joined February 2014
Battle

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Please, stop talking in Russian! I want to know what you guys say. ;w; No kudosu!
smae
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
tatemae

Battle wrote:

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Please, stop talking in Russian! I want to know what you guys say. ;w; No kudosu!
lol :D

All fixed+some patterns
vanucik
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Joined December 2014
vanucik

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Please, stop talking in Russian! I want to know what you guys say. ;w; No kudosu!
Use your Google Translate :D
Lumin
224 posts
Joined July 2014
Lumin

HappyRocket88 wrote:

[ Lumin's Light Insane]
  1. 00:49:335 (6) - This doesn't play bad but I think it wouldn't hurt to make it as a 1/2 slider as well as you did here 00:12:971 (1) - to keep consistency between both segments Yeah changed it, and it seems to fit a bit better
  2. 00:11:880 (1,2,3) - Why the distance of this pattern is shorter than the previous ones 00:10:426 (1,2,3) - ? I do think it would be way better if you could keep the same distance over those objects. I don't even know why it was unchanged until first bubble, now it's fixed
  3. 00:27:880 (1,2,3,4) - Don't you think this jump-pattern style is rather high compared with the low spacing you managed over the whole segment? It doesn't flow bad but I'm not sure handling such as jumpy patterns over a calmer section would fit well here. Thus, I'd suggest lowering the DS to give a proper impact regarding the notes in matter. Changed spacing to lower distances, now it jumps pretty much the same way than the rest of that slow part does
  4. 00:27:699 - Consider adding a note here. It feels weird to leave such a a gap of 1/2 objects here when you didn't handle it in the upcoming sections. ;w; Okay that's cool, added
  5. 00:53:335 (3,4,5,6,1) - I'm not sure if this jump-pattern was intentional because the spacing that it manages itself make a bit uglier motion among the objects. Wouldn't it be better if you used a star-jump pattern instead? o: Okay
Last update? probably not :D
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364,220,51153,6,0,P|352:280|320:324,1,99.0000030212403,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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288,144,55335,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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236,72,58244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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376,88,59335,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,216,59517,1,8,1:2:0:0:
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120,220,59880,5,8,1:2:0:0:
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312,100,60426,1,8,0:0:0:0:
424,320,60608,1,12,1:2:0:0:
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