1. 00:18:424 (1) - Having it land on the kick would be more accurate of the rhythm.
2. 00:22:174 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I question whether you're actually following the rhythm by mapping this as all 1/4s. The measure on 25% playback doesn't sound like constant 1/4 beat repetition.
3. 00:27:949 (6) - It seems like you're trying to follow the vocal, but this isn't mapped to a distinct sound of the vocal. Even if you're following the background instruments, placing a note here reduces emphasis on the kick.
4. 00:45:424 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - "Zone" should receive more emphasis than "extraction," because it's a more intense part of the vocal. Therefore, I wouldn't agree with equally-large spacing in the gray combo, especially for the buildup into the main part of the kiai. Just do what you did for 01:36:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10).
5. 01:16:774 (5) - This could be spaced closer to (4) since the guitar starts dropping pitch.
6. 01:33:274 (6) - Off with the pattern's structure; move to x:244 y:320.
7. 01:34:774 (2) - accidental whistle
8. 01:46:324 (1,2,3,4,1) - The strength of this doesn't die down after the lavender combo. In fact, I would say that the vocalist is increasing in volume.
9. 02:36:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - At least follow the same curve as 02:35:824 (1,2,3,4,5) or have it in a straight line. Curving the end toward 02:37:024 (1) looks plain ugly.
10. 03:16:024 (1) - Fix placement in relation to 03:15:574 (2,1,2).
11. 03:22:699 (1) - The song sounds like it briefly pauses at 03:27:124 before continuing at the next measure. Perhaps end the spinner at 03:27:124 to indicate that?
12. 03:39:424 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern placement is poorly executed. Since it looks like you want to form a pentagon, you could just do what Monstrata does when he creates polygons. You should be able to get a cleaner pattern like this (you might consider readjusting the square's placement).
    
    1. Copy/paste (1,2)
    2. Rotate 72 degrees
    3. Delete (3)
    4. Drag the new (3) on to the white tick
    5. Repeat the copy/paste method, but with (2,3)
13. 03:40:624 (9) - The shape doesn't look like it fits with the pattern. In addition to that, the angle creates questionable flow due to right-angle movement.
14. 04:01:024 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - You can place this better using the method I gave above.
15. 04:18:424 (1) - The pitch doesn't even drop that much to justify a whole 1.0x difference.

F1r3tar wrote:

1. 00:18:424 (1) - Having it land on the kick would be more accurate of the rhythm. emmmm...I did this place on purpose
2. 00:22:174 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I question whether you're actually following the rhythm by mapping this as all 1/4s. The measure on 25% playback doesn't sound like constant 1/4 beat repetition. ↑ There are times when rhythm is diverse and we just have to make the player feel reasonable
3. 00:27:949 (6) - It seems like you're trying to follow the vocal, but this isn't mapped to a distinct sound of the vocal. Even if you're following the background instruments, placing a note here reduces emphasis on the kick. no
4. 00:45:424 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - "Zone" should receive more emphasis than "extraction," because it's a more intense part of the vocal. Therefore, I wouldn't agree with equally-large spacing in the gray combo, especially for the buildup into the main part of the kiai. Just do what you did for 01:36:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10). fix
5. 01:16:774 (5) - This could be spaced closer to (4) since the guitar starts dropping pitch. fix
6. 01:33:274 (6) - Off with the pattern's structure; move to x:244 y:320. well...In fact, there is no structure here... Just jump...
7. 01:34:774 (2) - accidental whistle fix
8. 01:46:324 (1,2,3,4,1) - The strength of this doesn't die down after the lavender combo. In fact, I would say that the vocalist is increasing in volume. no
9. 02:36:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - At least follow the same curve as 02:35:824 (1,2,3,4,5) or have it in a straight line. Curving the end toward 02:37:024 (1) looks plain ugly. fix
10. 03:16:024 (1) - Fix placement in relation to 03:15:574 (2,1,2). no
11. 03:22:699 (1) - The song sounds like it briefly pauses at 03:27:124 before continuing at the next measure. Perhaps end the spinner at 03:27:124 to indicate that? emmmm.....no
12. 03:39:424 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern placement is poorly executed. Since it looks like you want to form a pentagon, you could just do what Monstrata does when he creates polygons. You should be able to get a cleaner pattern like this (you might consider readjusting the square's placement). fix
    
    1. Copy/paste (1,2)
    2. Rotate 72 degrees
    3. Delete (3)
    4. Drag the new (3) on to the white tick
    5. Repeat the copy/paste method, but with (2,3)
13. 03:40:624 (9) - The shape doesn't look like it fits with the pattern. In addition to that, the angle creates questionable flow due to fixright-angle movement.
14. 04:01:024 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - You can place this better using the method I gave above. no
15. 04:18:424 (1) - The pitch doesn't even drop that much to justify a whole 1.0x difference. ....0.75X

zigizigiefe wrote:

Random mod I have concerns about hitsounds and felt like I have to share it since I'm big DF fan :v

00:46:099 (2,1) - Having finishes here is really weird, it doesn't fit to the drum and makes irritating sounds. Hitsounds in stream at 00:46:024 - should have followed a hitsound line like "finish, finish, finish-whistle(because of snare), finish, finish, finish, finish-whistle" according to your custom hitsounds. You may reject this suggestion but at least review hitsounds of this part, it goes totally wrong imo.

Kibbleru wrote:

03:22:324 (1,2,3,4,1) - increase spacing? that seemed to be your intention fix
00:10:474 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - why the random direction change :/ fix
00:19:624 (1) - why NC :/ fix
00:43:924 (1,2,3,1) - 00:44:524 (1,2,3,1) - maybe u could gradually increase spacing? color=#FF0000]fix[/color]

AncuL wrote:

Was the meetup on Guangzhou? Just wondering

MrSergio wrote:

too bad there are no modding coffee houses in Italy

04:19:024 - this stream can be reduced in spacing to make it fit with the decreased volume in hitsounds fix
not a big problem, but you should try to make your patterns fit with the hitsounding. I saw some parts where strong hitsounds were doing a rhythm which was simply expressed with a stream in the map.
That is surely not the best, since the map is one, yet you seem to have divided your map into 2 distinct layers: hitsounds and patterns I seem to understand the difference you're trying to say, because the hit and sound effects of this map are done separately from patterns .some to 01:04:024 (1) - 01:16:624 (4) - In this, I try to tune the music to the sound, not the patterns.. If you think these places need to be changed, I'll try it. But I also want to keep those thoughts, because it's an attempt

Anyway, I won't ask to redo them, since only some streams seem to do that (04:32:224 - dynamic hitsounds) while some do it better (03:41:824 - static hitsounds) fix to 04:32:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
Dynamic hitsounds: when the base line, aka the strong drum beats of your hitsounding, follows a specific and varied rhythm.
Static hitsound: when your drum hitsounds only support the song, usually following the default 4/4 metric.
Keep it in mind for next maps
of course

What's with "rsi" in tags? I don't like memes, you know... ("rice" and "insane" too seem unrelated to the map imo) fix

The map's design is not bad at all, but tbh those hitsounds kinda go against my philosophy

MrSergio wrote:

If you can explain me the reason why you tried to make this "innovation" by dividing hitsounds and patterns I can probably come to understand it too, but right now it feels like "hey, let's try to do this because sounds like fun" without actually having a real reason behind it. (that's what I understand from "In this, I try to tune the music to the sound, not the patterns.. ")

Also, I know what RSI means lol, that's why I considered it a meme x)

squirrelpascals wrote:

was looking through this map and i thought i'd bring this up while your bubble is popped

04:19:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - you completely skipped hitsounds on this stream. Pretty confusing because the stream before it is very heavily hitsounded.

no kd

Nevermind I'm dumb, my map want updated. Ignore this

Circle wrote:

Not saying this is an issue, but I just felt that the song being so quiet in this section 01:51:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6) - was weird. It's part of the song but I just wasn't expecting the volume to go down in that section? emmm....I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean the song itself?I didn't reduce this part of the sound volume o.o I just reduced the density

The map looks fun to play. If only I could play it.

Hpocks wrote:

Why are these streams so ugly? Did you even use slider to stream?

• 1) why are your finish hitsounds overused in the kiais? it makes playing this song without your hitsounds feel like complete ass because all i can hear is just "pop pop pop pop" where there should be vocals and, you know, not finishes
  
  2) on the topic of hitsounds, WHY are the whistles substitute clap hitsounds? what is even the purpose of doing that, just make them actual whistles or some other sound besides a snare
  
  3) why do your streams in the kiai follow vocals at some points in terms of spacing changes but then go to drums like 01:01:624 (1) - here during this entire stream?
  
  4) what's wrong with your nc's like 00:51:724 (1,1) - this literally screams unpolished
  
  5) 00:55:624 (1,2,3,4,5) - where is the emphasis on literally any of these patterns? because 00:57:124 (1,2,3,4) - you seem 00:58:024 (1,2,3,4,5) - to be 00:59:524 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - changing 01:07:624 (1,2) - emphasis 01:19:024 (1,2,3,4) - quite 01:20:524 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a 01:22:324 (1,2,3,4,5) - lot
  
  6) 01:19:924 (6,7,8,9) - this is not straight, unpolished, although this is more of a minor thing anyway
  
  7) 01:22:624 (4) - nc every downbeat but then this isn't? what?
  
  8) 01:28:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this blatantly ignores rhythm for no reason, same thing with the next pattern, you could be following vocals or guitar here but it's just 1/4 spam???
  
  9) 02:15:424 (1) - what the absolute fuck is this
  
  10) 02:25:024 (1) - hitsounds randomly get 30% louder here??
  
  11) 02:28:024 (2,3) - 02:29:224 (2,3) - these are the same distance but different gaps in rhythm, why?
  
  12) 02:41:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't you think this is a TINY bit overmapped considering the part before it?
  
  12) 02:45:274 (4,1) - why? no, like, genuinely, why? how do you imagine this as a playable pattern? you're introducing a concept like this 3 minutes into the map, you are LITERALLY asking for people to break here
  
  13) 02:51:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i've legitimately seen more structured stream patterns from unranked mappers, like 02:51:724 (5) - why isn't the direction change on the white ticks? it shouldn't be on the blue ticks, that ignores rhythm entirely
  
  14) 02:55:624 (1,2,3) - yeah, no, please actually stop doing this, your map is unplayable at this point

fieryrage wrote:

playability > aesthetics

edit: ok there's actually things wrong with this map, wtf is wrong with the hitsounding and ncs and what are the streams even following lol

goes from vocals to guitars to drums and where is the consistency hello

idke wrote:

i believe this can be ranked someday, but not now especially with many questionable flaws included in the map.

Xexxar wrote:

01:55:474 (7,8,1) - isnt this just emphasizing 8 because u simply ran out of room in the editor due to poor stream placement management
01:55:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:55:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In fact, this is a set of accelerated sounds .about this sharp angle. I don't think there is any problem. because 01:54:949 (16,1,8,1) - Here, as the beginning of the acceleration, it is also an acute angle . but this looks, is not very molimen

02:51:649 (4,8,12,16) - vs 02:53:524 (13) - what is the reason for this difference is stream design? lol..I think this should be a classic part, not a mistake. This paragraph follows the guitar.Toy's Mod mentioned it here .and I like it

03:42:274 (7) - red tick vs 03:42:949 (16) - blue tick in the same combo ?? 03:42:274 (7) - watch the difference in guitar 03:42:949 (16,1) -The definition of the turning point of the tail and head is very vague .Because they're turning at the point of stress, In fact, I can explain that since 03:43:024 (1) is stress, it is connected to the acute part .and 03:42:274 (7) - I can explain that it's stressed, so I'm just pausing for a shot, and then connecting the acute angle. It doesn't make sense because they're all in the spinning part

i dont rly care how you want to prioritize rhythms, whether that be forcing direction change after the blue tick to emphasize a change in movement before the white tick / red, or if you want highlight it by making the red / white tick be the corner of the stream, but you need to be consistent with it and especially shouldnt be doing these changes in the same combo. But about turning, I'm not thinking about defining the stress as the center, or the head at the next sharp angle .In my opinion, they just need to do something about the turning point

04:58:324 (7,8,1) - this flow makes me a sad boy emmm.....If you want, i can really drop 04:58:474 (8) - a little .But now I don't feel necessary

Lasse wrote:

didn't expect it to get qualified so fast after bubble, even less so as it is right now..
I called for you, but you didn't pay attention to me

hitsounding
why are you using edm kick samples as hitnormal, that sounds so unfitting with this song
using some non-electronic kick samples would make much more sense

04:22:624 - using hihat hitnormals in parts like this also makes no sense with the song, there are drum and guitar 1/4 but basically adding a 1/4 hihat layer with hitsounds sounds horrible

similar for the intro/part until first kiai
and parts like 01:17:824 - etc.

not using cymbal samples (like default soft finish) in a song that uses them quite frequently also seems really lacking

I don't quite follow you . Is this denying all sound effects...? I can't guarantee that everyone sounds good .at least these sound effects are regular .Hummm... I've changed my hitnormal once. At least it's not bad now. If you have a better hitnormal.please send it to me


streams
your stream emphasis is all over the place in many spots
just from looking at parts like 03:41:824 - 03:49:024 -
things like 03:42:274 (7,8) - are emphasized a lot for whatever reason but then 03:42:424 (9) - isn't all, even though it stands out much more in the song and your hitsounding
then 03:42:949 (16,1) - 03:43:549 (8,9) - 03:44:149 (16,1) - actually make sense, but for some reason you do nothing on 03:44:824 (9) - 03:45:349 (16,1) - etc
03:46:024 (9,11) - are hitsounded to somehow stand out, but your patterning doesn't make them stand out in any way
u overlooked an important piece of information .03:46:174 (11) - this .It's the last repetition 03:46:024 (9,11,13) - 03:44:824 (9,13) - 03:43:624 (9,13) - 03:42:424 (9,13) - In the next paragraph. a change has taken place 03:46:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
So it's changed at the end of the paragraph

I mean these things could work if you actually were consistent with them, but emphasizing like half of the stronger beats and ignoring the other half makes no sense
That's a very good suggestion, but about this. I just cut the same paragraph very thin. So that it looks very random. maybe it makes you feel a little confused... Emmm... I'll try to get someone to understand my audio model .mrsergio and I discussed the problem

00:08:749 (16,1) - this is suddenly using such an outstanding angle when you didn't do that on all the strong beats before is ?? 00:08:749 (16,1) - 00:09:874 (15,1) - 00:11:149 (16,1) - 00:12:349 (16,1) - If I say it's a twist, I don't know if you can accept it .yes, I can start with an acute angle from the front, but I didn't do that. Is consistency necessary here? 00:06:124 (13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:07:324 (13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5) - If you need, I can even explain these two as buffering because their angles are getting sharper and sharper .but it doesn't make sense, you know. If I keep the consistency here, it will become very single. streams lost his mind

these issues are mainly relating to when you use such inconsistent concept of (not)emphasizing stuff during the same stream, and how you decide to do it.
changing things up a bit for different parts etc. is alright though, especially for a long song with so many streams

perhaps the consistency for many people is a must. But this is not blindly believe the reason. Most of the time, what we see is quite different .

more things
00:47:824 (6) - is putting lots of emphasis on the 1/2 ticks with hitsounding but mapped tapping rhythm doesn't fit, this would be much better as two 1/4 sliders I don't deny your point of view, but I don't think it's bad right now .00:47:824 (6) - This can be seen as a pause .00:48:124 (1,2) - give the player a better response to this place .

03:55:024 (1) - should probably be 1/4, the guitar is not that clear, but sounds better on 1/4 as the important guitar beats seem pretty close to 03:55:174 - and 03:55:249 - , together with clear drums on 03:55:174 -
hummmm... This place is very blurry, because I really follow the guitar .I think if I use a 1/2 slider. Plus a note. here will become very strange. But if 1/3, it will not be so molimen .03:55:324 (1) - because the two sounds coincide here But I still have a choice, if you think so https://puu.sh/x8aMM/47defe6647.png

04:19:924 (13,14,15,16) - this doesn't give enough hitsound feedback, 10% is way too low, fadeout you put here should just se smaller steps as the ones before are really hard to hear
but this is a diminishing process.a gradual process of decline .04:19:924 (13,14,15,16) - they all added finish.and there's a rising sound in

the map uses some nice ideas, but it seems to really lack in how they were executed

fieryrage wrote:

ok i have to make a separate post for this

• 1) why are your finish hitsounds overused in the kiais? it makes playing this song without your hitsounds feel like complete ass because all i can hear is just "pop pop pop pop" where there should be vocals and, you know, not finishes
  no
  
  2) on the topic of hitsounds, WHY are the whistles substitute clap hitsounds? what is even the purpose of doing that, just make them actual whistles or some other sound besides a snare
  no
  
  3) why do your streams in the kiai follow vocals at some points in terms of spacing changes but then go to drums like 01:01:624 (1) - here during this entire stream?
  no
  
  4) what's wrong with your nc's like 00:51:724 (1,1) - this literally screams unpolished 00:51:874 (1) - This NC is consistent for the number of streams .00:51:874 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 00:53:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
  
  5) 00:55:624 (1,2,3,4,5) - where is the emphasis on literally any of these patterns? because 00:57:124 (1,2,3,4) - you seem 00:58:024 (1,2,3,4,5) - to be 00:59:524 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - changing 01:07:624 (1,2) - emphasis 01:19:024 (1,2,3,4) - quite 01:20:524 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a 01:22:324 (1,2,3,4,5) - lot
  no
  
  6) 01:19:924 (6,7,8,9) - this is not straight, unpolished, although this is more of a minor thing anyway
  no
  
  7) 01:22:624 (4) - nc every downbeat but then this isn't? what? I can't understand why I need Nc here
  
  8) 01:28:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this blatantly ignores rhythm for no reason, same thing with the next pattern, you could be following vocals or guitar here but it's just 1/4 spam??? 01:27:424 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:29:824 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Really?
  
  9) 02:15:424 (1) - what the absolute fuck is this no
  
  10) 02:25:024 (1) - hitsounds randomly get 30% louder here?? no
  
  11) 02:28:024 (2,3) - 02:29:224 (2,3) - these are the same distance but different gaps in rhythm, why? no
  
  12) 02:41:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't you think this is a TINY bit overmapped considering the part before it?
  Is this really overmapped? There is enough intense guitar sound to support this paragraph
  
  12) 02:45:274 (4,1) - why? no, like, genuinely, why? how do you imagine this as a playable pattern? you're introducing a concept like this 3 minutes into the map, you are LITERALLY asking for people to break here no
  
  13) 02:51:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i've legitimately seen more structured stream patterns from unranked mappers, like 02:51:724 (5) - why isn't the direction change on the white ticks? it shouldn't be on the blue ticks, that ignores rhythm entirely no
  
  14) 02:55:624 (1,2,3) - yeah, no, please actually stop doing this, your map is unplayable at this point no

not to mention the fact that the 100 bpm sections aren't even warranted considering the only things mapped in those sections are spinners, it should be a consistent 200 bpm throughout the entire song no

i seriously can't be bothered to look at this map more, it's not ready for ranking at all. the fact this even was considered as anything near a rankable map basically just proves the existence of a double-standard in the mapping community, as if it weren't proven already by monstrata being able to rank literally fucking anything

Yes, you're too lazy to look at this map. So what are you writing so much for? Do you promote your sense of being? Or just because your high ranking can do this? This is not an mod.

why did this get through with like 10 mods it so very clearly needs a LOT more than that?