18:39 marzl: can u check out my map so far?
18:39 marzl: :d
18:40 Tedda: uwah ok
18:40 Tedda: im really bad at giving advice tho
18:40 *marzl is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1007399 yunomi - oedo controller [Insane]]
18:40 marzl: just need someone to check it out and tell me if its aids
18:42 Tedda: ur metadata is wrong
18:42 Tedda: the artist name and stuff
18:42 marzl: i found it on youtube ; - ;
18:43 marzl: what is it? o- o
18:43 Tedda: but u should always check other sites too, especially the official one
18:43 Tedda: 'yunomi' must have a capital Y
18:43 Tedda: same with song title
18:43 Tedda: 'Oedo Controller'
18:44 marzl: thanks o-o
18:44 Tedda: u must also add 'ft. Toriena' to the artist
18:44 marzl: kk :
18:44 Tedda: so, 'Yunomi ft. Toriena'
18:44 marzl: kk got it
18:44 marzl: :c
18:44 marzl: sry first map im releasing
18:44 marzl: :
18:44 Tedda: o wait
18:45 marzl: hows the map itself?
18:45 marzl: o-o
18:45 Tedda: im unsure if u put featuring artists to the artist or song title
18:45 Tedda: but make sure u incllude it
18:45 marzl: yeah i changed both ":p
18:46 Tedda: btw the romanized song title is 'Oedo Controller'
18:46 Tedda: the official name (jap) is 大江戸コントローラー
18:46 Tedda: just copy paste it from this yt link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNhWmIWRVA
18:46 Tedda: find it in the description
18:46 marzl: thats where i had it from :p
18:47 Tedda: ur timing is incorrect
18:47 Tedda: makes it frustrating for players to play the map
18:48 marzl: where was it off
18:48 marzl: or the whole time?
18:48 Tedda: it was off the whole time
18:48 Tedda: because u didnt have the correct bpm and offset
18:48 marzl: what bpm/offset?
18:50 Tedda: i can tell u it butu
18:50 Tedda: *but
18:50 Tedda: u have to learn how to time
18:51 marzl: im not the best at timing
18:51 marzl: lol
18:51 marzl: i did it by ear
18:51 marzl: ; - ;
18:51 Tedda:  the offset starts when the first strong sound comes it
18:52 Tedda: mmm im not the best at timing
18:52 Tedda: but i believe the bpm is 116
18:52 Tedda: and the offset is 691
18:52 Tedda: and then here
18:52 Tedda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNhWmIWRVA
18:52 Tedda: 1. Offset: 691ms	BPM: 116.00
18:52 Tedda: .>
18:52 Tedda: ignore previous links
18:53 Tedda: 00:11:035 - 
18:53 Tedda: theres a slight bpm change
18:53 marzl: yeah there is
18:53 Tedda: so u gotta add a new bpm
18:54 Tedda: when theres a bpm change add in a red line
18:54 Tedda: mmm i believe the new bpm is 115
18:55 Tedda: when u add the red line adjust the bpm and stuff until it sounds right
18:55 Tedda: before u even start mapping u wanna finish the timing section
18:56 Tedda: this includes adding kiai, slider speed and volume changes
18:57 Tedda: make sure u get that sorted before u start mapping
18:57 Tedda: also when u add inherited lines (green lines) make sure they are on the ticks
18:57 marzl: i dont map offten lol
18:57 Tedda: i can see u dont
18:58 marzl: im just mapping for fun
18:58 marzl: i like playing and wanted to see this song mapped
18:58 marzl: LOL
18:58 marzl: ive mapped like
18:58 marzl: 3 times
18:58 marzl: but they were slow songs
18:58 marzl: and i never put them out
18:58 Tedda: btw there doesnt seem to be any more bpm changes other than the one at the beginning
18:58 Tedda: well keep mapping if u enjoy it
18:59 Tedda: once u get the timing section sorted out u can add a bg if u want
18:59 Tedda: then u need to add a preview point
18:59 Tedda: the preview point is usually at the chorus but just put it anywhere u think is the most epic
18:59 Tedda: or exciting
19:00 marzl: probbably
19:00 marzl: like
19:00 marzl: if you go to the map itsel
19:00 marzl: like
19:00 marzl: 16 seconds in
19:00 Tedda: uh k
19:01 Tedda: ？
19:01 Tedda: depending on the difficulty u want to make
19:01 marzl: hm
19:01 Tedda: u have to choose appropriate difficulty options in the song setup
19:01 marzl: how important is having the right
19:01 marzl: bpm
19:01 marzl: rather than offset
19:01 Tedda: very very important
19:01 marzl: because if i change bpm
19:01 marzl: and offset
19:01 Tedda: both are important
19:01 marzl: i have to remap
19:01 marzl: everything pretty much
19:01 Tedda: yeah
19:01 marzl: and the sliders feel ok to me
19:02 Tedda: but if its an offset problem
19:02 marzl: i dont like mapping slow slider speed
19:02 Tedda: u can just drag the objects to the correct place
19:02 Tedda: u can change the slider velocity
19:02 marzl: oh
19:02 marzl: ok :c
19:02 Tedda: if u dont like slow slider speed increase slider velocity
19:03 Tedda: i dont like ur bpm
19:03 marzl: yeah when i swapped the bpm
19:03 marzl: and
19:03 Tedda: very rarely ppl use hp8
19:03 marzl: offset
19:03 Tedda: your objects are unsnapped and theres a lot of problems right?
19:03 Tedda: i dont like ur hp drain srry
19:03 Tedda: not bpm
19:03 marzl: should my objects be snapped?
19:03 Tedda: yes
19:03 Tedda: very important
19:04 Tedda: u cant rank a map if there are unsnapped objects
19:04 marzl: i dont exactly want my map ranked lol
19:04 marzl: its just for fun
19:04 marzl: :p
19:04 Tedda: if u want it to be a troll map then u dont have to
19:04 Tedda: cuz they are troll
19:05 Tedda:  about ur mapping...
19:05 Tedda: uwahhhhhhhh
19:05 Tedda: very rarely do objects start on the blue tick
19:05 Tedda: they should start on white ticks
19:05 Tedda: if they dont then its a bpm and offset problem
19:05 Tedda: like we just discussed
19:06 Tedda: sometimes it can be an exception
19:06 Tedda: this, no
19:06 marzl: oh
19:07 marzl: :c
19:07 marzl: ive asked
19:07 Tedda: i just testplayed what u mapped so far and its bad
19:07 marzl: so many mappers
19:07 marzl: that are high up
19:07 marzl: and
19:07 marzl: they all refuse
19:07 marzl: to give
19:07 marzl: any tips
19:07 marzl: and no ones made youtube videos on it
19:07 Tedda: uhhh they have
19:07 Tedda: >.>
19:08 Tedda: they probably refused because they dont want to waste their time giving tips on the basics
19:08 Tedda: but i can give u the yt link about mapping
19:08 marzl: ; - ;
19:08 marzl: im a nub
19:08 Tedda: everyones like this first try ；x
19:08 Tedda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKS8Zhut9XU
19:09 Tedda: this is made by osu academy
19:09 Tedda: they show u the basics of mapping and stuff
19:09 Tedda: theres more than one part to it so on the left side it shows the left part
19:10 Tedda: i cant give u specific tips about ur mapping but ill give u some general advice
19:10 Tedda: keep ur combos short, 20 is usually the max 
19:10 Tedda: start on the white ticks 
19:10 Tedda: fix ur timing
19:11 Tedda: mm thats pretty much what i covered throughout this convo