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Perfume - Relax In The City (short ver.) [Taiko]

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Jonarwhal
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Joined November 2013
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Jonarwhal

Kazaze wrote:

Hello! Here for our M4M. Sorry for the delay by the way.
This is a great mapset, I don't have that many suggestions, but here is what can be improved in my opinion :

Kantan
• 01:23:740 (10) - I would change this one to a d, so the ending of the chorus (01:22:490 (8,9,10) is k k d It's to differentiate from the pattern over 01:14:990 (9,10) - here, which features a lower pitch than the other pattern.
• Same suggestion for 01:39:740 (10) - Change to a d ^
Futsuu
• 00:30:990 (18) - I don't think a k fits here, there's a very distinct drum sound here, so I'd suggest changing to a d Notice that I'm mostly following the pitch in the high-pitched synth here, not really the drums even though this is Taiko. Since this is the case, I'd like to have 00:29:990 (17,18) - these two as different because they are different pitches. Also, it's more consistent with the earlier pattern 00:21:990 (3,4) - there.
• 00:34:990 (25) - This one should be a d too, it is the exact same sound as the following 00:35:490 (26) I want it to be consistent with the previous pattern 00:26:990 (11,12) - here, the kd.
• 00:54:490 - A note could definitely fit here to follow the vocals It could, but the 1/1 triples I have there are enough. I don't wanna create a pattern with 7 1/1 objects.
• 00:58:490 - And here as well for the same reasons ^
• 01:00:990 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - I'm not sure about this invertiion of colors, I wouldn't diferenciate this part from 00:44:990 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) the pitch is pretty different
• 01:23:365 (32) - This one could definitely be a k to fit the vocals and to diferenciate 01:22:990 (31,32,33) from 01:20:990 (27,28,29) Fixed, this is the opposite of what you suggested for Kantan, lol.
• 01:39:365 (66) - Same suggestion for this part, change to k Fixed~
Muzukashii
• 00:34:490 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - I would change this pattern to dkdkkdd What is your reasoning here? I personally dislike that pattern because it would be inconsistent with the earlier pattern in the map.
• Again with this part : 01:00:990 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) I would keep the same hitsounds as the previous part Same reasoning as Futsuu then.
This difficulty is on point Thank you <3
And that's it! You can now continue modding my map and I would like you to focus on the Kantan and Futsuu difficulties. Thank you and good luck for ranking!
Thank you for modding~!!
Sorry if it seems like I rejected a lot. I'm pretty confident about those sections, but having my intentions questioned is always a benefit.
Ayyri
Ayyri
Finally.

@Voyage I wanted to have a difference between the patterns at 00:27:240 - and 00:28:240 - , since the notes at 00:27:240 - and 00:27:365 - lead into a higher note at 00:27:490 - . And having 00:27:240 - as k would kinda clutter up the sounds here.

@Midnaait Accepted both points since there were quite a bit of doubles in the area, and this would give a nice break.

@Kazaze Sorry, but I didn't accept anything. Mainly because I was following the higher bells or vocals when you suggested to change something to d, and it would kinda defeat the purpose of that. But thanks for the compliment! :D

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Stefan
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Stefan
Aloha

[Kantan]
00:33:990 (17,18,19) - It's weird you use the k sound 1/1 earlier than usually. Swap (17,18) and remove (19) because it's pretty tough to play oo oo so it's recommend to leave a note here. You could also remove 00:36:490 (20) - instead but I think (19) is the better choice.
00:38:990 (23,24,25) - You used this rhythm previously in the calm part, instead try to follow the vocals for now: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/b2uVUugL
00:54:990 (44,45,46) - ^
00:45:490 (32,53) - 00:45:490 (32,53) - For the case you don't agree with 00:38:990 - : Your Kantan difficulty is quite dense - having five notes in a row which are not single-colour is probably too hard at all. You should remove both.

01:11:740 (4,5) - If you decide to keep the 1/2 note, you need to remove (5), it might even be the better choice to keep (4) because 1/1 sounds weird imo.
01:13:740 (7,8) - ^
01:15:740 (10,11) - ^

(apply for the other loops too)

Generally I don't really mind the 1/2 usage since the BPM is fairly low but you need to conisder that to switch from 1/1 to 1/2 and back to 1/1 is a tough move for a Kantan Difficulty. However, I applied to all these changes and I brought the difficulty to 1.02*

[Futsuu]
00:20:990 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - because of 00:25:490 (9,10) - it makes the combo from 4 to 10 quite long. And this continues with 00:26:990 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - and so on. Remove 00:21:490 (2) - and 00:25:490 (9) - . As well, remove 00:29:490 (16,23) - to be consistent.
00:37:490 (2) - d d k sounds better than d k k, I don't really hear anything higher compared to 00:36:990 (1) - , so change the note to k.
00:41:490 (8) - ^
00:46:990 (13,18,23) - I think it will be slightly easier if you change them to k, k d d kkk d d kkk looks simpler. (13) can be also changed since the vocals would be suitable to do that and to stay consistent with (18,23).

00:52:990 - 01:08:990 - Apply to the things above.
01:24:740 (34) - wouldn't you move it to 01:24:490 - to have the same rhythm like 01:08:490 (3,1) - which follows the same basically?

It's quite worrisome to have all these 1/4 notes in the Kiai, despite the low BPM I think to use them makes you walk on thin ice.

[Muzukashii]
00:21:240 (2,16,30,44) - I think ddkdk works better with the music. (in short: make them all to d.)
00:28:990 (29,30,31,32) - Even tho I suggested above to change (30) to d, I think this part could be slighty different from the first loops in 00:20:990 - 00:28:490 - . Remove 00:29:240 (30,32) - and make 00:29:490 (31) - to d.

00:37:740 (3,4,1) - I don't really believe the triplet is good here, instead, remove (3,4).
00:41:740 (3,4,1) - ^
00:53:740 (3,4,1) - ^
00:57:740 (3,4,1) - ^

01:08:615 (1) - I think you can nerf this part slight by removing that note, so you only have one doublet. I think the little break you create makes it more comfortable to play.
01:24:615 (30) - ^

01:10:240 (7) - This rather sounds like a filler where you could emphasize 01:09:990 (6) - better without (7) here. Remove this note.
01:18:240 (5) - ^
01:26:240 (5) - ^
01:34:240 (5) - ^

01:13:990 (7) - A slight nerf would be appropriate by removing the note.
01:21:990 (19) - ^
01:29:990 (7) - ^
01:37:990 (19) - ^

Looks good but needs some fine-tuning.

[Oni]
00:24:990 - 00:28:990 - The Doubles and the triplets sounds quite unnatural, even less fitting compared to the first loop on 00:20:990 - 00:24:740 - . It's cool to include the doubles starting from 00:28:990 - but these ones are really weird to play.
00:31:740 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - I find d k ddkkd works better with the music. Pattern-wise it's basically nothing wrong but uh.. the ddkdd part doesn't fit so well compared to 00:50:990 (139,140,141,142,143) - .
00:40:115 (90) - while I agree with the doublet usage on 00:39:240 (85,86,87,88) - I don't agree with 00:39:990 (89,90) - . Move (90) to 00:40:240 - .
00:40:865 (93) - It's okay for the most time to get back from a short break with a doublet but in this case it sounds weird imo and should be removed.
00:56:740 (169) - You really should leave a little break here, you don't lose anything by removing the note and you also had a little break on 00:40:740 - .
01:24:490 (305) - Do you think you could move the note to 01:24:365 - ? The sound here is suitable to have two doublets.

[Inner Oni]
00:20:990 - 00:28:990 - pretty much the same case than Ayyri's Oni: The Doublets doesn't really fit in comparison with the music, I think the extra beat the music adds from 00:28:990 - makes a huge impact change so the doublets are more appropriate there than using them before already. So finally I recommend to get rid of the doublets in this part.

00:39:990 (1,2,3,4,5) - I find the decision to have kdddk here is.. weird. It feels overdone and not really suitable with the music imo. One thing you could do is to change (1) to d, to have ddddk, this fits better with the background music. An alternative to add more rhythm would be to remove (3) so you have kd dk which sounds cool.
00:41:740 (10,11,12,13,14) - same case here, I'd recommend to remove (13).
00:42:990 (17,18,19) - Instead of the case above, kddkd would fit here well. But I am unsure if you want to follow the vocals at all.
00:52:865 (60) - I really don't see to use dkk here instead of ddk. Maybe I just fail to hear out where exactly is the significant sound which makes it worth? idk
01:24:240 (111,112,113,114) - You may want to change them into kd dk.

BGM mapping isn't really my taste here but I guess it works.


So my conclusion: The map is on a good way to be worth to be nominated but there is still a lot of room left for improvement. You have some good attempts on a lot of parts but these could be improved or there are other parts which needs to be re-done. After all, my two concern are these:

-) The usage of 1/4 rhythm in the Futsuu might be too rough so you may nerf that too in future but I can't really prove it causes harm for now.
-) The gap between Muzukashii/Oni should be better since Oni feels almost too complex in comparison with Muzukashii.
Ayyri
Ayyri
Thanks for the mod Fan.

I'll respond when I get home later.
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Stefan wrote:

Aloha

[Kantan]
00:33:990 (17,18,19) - It's weird you use the k sound 1/1 earlier than usually. Swap (17,18) and remove (19) because it's pretty tough to play oo oo so it's recommend to leave a note here. You could also remove 00:36:490 (20) - instead but I think (19) is the better choice.
00:38:990 (23,24,25) - You used this rhythm previously in the calm part, instead try to follow the vocals for now: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/b2uVUugL
00:54:990 (44,45,46) - ^
00:45:490 (32,53) - 00:45:490 (32,53) - For the case you don't agree with 00:38:990 - I agree with the suggestion at 00:38:990 - here, so I'll apply something similar here: Your Kantan difficulty is quite dense - having five notes in a row which are not single-colour is probably too hard at all. You should remove both.

01:11:740 (4,5) - If you decide to keep the 1/2 note, you need to remove (5), it might even be the better choice to keep (4) because 1/1 sounds weird imo.
01:13:740 (7,8) - ^
01:15:740 (10,11) - ^

(apply for the other loops too)

Generally I don't really mind the 1/2 usage since the BPM is fairly low but you need to conisder that to switch from 1/1 to 1/2 and back to 1/1 is a tough move for a Kantan Difficulty. However, I applied to all these changes and I brought the difficulty to 1.02*

[Futsuu]
00:20:990 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - because of 00:25:490 (9,10) - it makes the combo from 4 to 10 quite long. And this continues with 00:26:990 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - and so on. Remove 00:21:490 (2) - and 00:25:490 (9) - . As well, remove 00:29:490 (16,23) - to be consistent.
00:37:490 (2) - d d k sounds better than d k k, I don't really hear anything higher compared to 00:36:990 (1) - , so change the note to k.
00:41:490 (8) - ^
00:46:990 (13,18,23) - I think it will be slightly easier if you change them to k, k d d kkk d d kkk looks simpler. (13) can be also changed since the vocals would be suitable to do that and to stay consistent with (18,23).

00:52:990 - 01:08:990 - Apply to the things above.
01:24:740 (34) - wouldn't you move it to 01:24:490 - to have the same rhythm like 01:08:490 (3,1) - which follows the same basically?

It's quite worrisome to have all these 1/4 notes in the Kiai, despite the low BPM I think to use them makes you walk on thin ice. I reduced the blue tick notes by 67%.

[Muzukashii]
00:21:240 (2,16,30,44) - I think ddkdk works better with the music. (in short: make them all to d.) I disagree because of the pitch raise 00:20:990 (1,2) - here is similar to the pitch raise 00:21:240 (2,3) - here, so it can be mapped dkk or ddk.
00:28:990 (29,30,31,32) - Even tho I suggested above to change (30) to d, I think this part could be slighty different from the first loops in 00:20:990 - 00:28:490 - . Remove 00:29:240 (30,32) - and make 00:29:490 (31) - to d. I did that 00:32:990 - here instead, and did something similar 00:28:990 - here.

00:37:740 (3,4,1) - I don't really believe the triplet is good here, instead, remove (3,4).
00:41:740 (3,4,1) - ^
00:53:740 (3,4,1) - ^
00:57:740 (3,4,1) - ^

01:08:615 (1) - I think you can nerf this part slight by removing that note, so you only have one doublet. I think the little break you create makes it more comfortable to play. I want the piano to be fully playable when they're fully emphasized in the music here.
01:24:615 (30) - ^ ^

01:10:240 (7) - This rather sounds like a filler where you could emphasize 01:09:990 (6) - better without (7) here. Remove this note.
01:18:240 (5) - ^
01:26:240 (5) - ^
01:34:240 (5) - ^

01:13:990 (7) - A slight nerf would be appropriate by removing the note. I don't want to destroy the downbeat/piano there.
01:21:990 (19) - ^ ^
01:29:990 (7) - ^ ^
01:37:990 (19) - ^ ^

Looks good but needs some fine-tuning.

So my conclusion: The map is on a good way to be worth to be nominated but there is still a lot of room left for improvement. You have some good attempts on a lot of parts but these could be improved or there are other parts which needs to be re-done. After all, my two concern are these:

-) The usage of 1/4 rhythm in the Futsuu might be too rough so you may nerf that too in future but I can't really prove it causes harm for now. Done.
-) The gap between Muzukashii/Oni should be better since Oni feels almost too complex in comparison with Muzukashii. Pending Ayyri.
No Reply=Fixed because I'm lazy
Thanks so much! I'll get to your mod shortly.
snowball112
363 posts
Joined February 2013
snowball112

Stefan wrote:

Aloha Heya~
[Inner Oni]
00:20:990 - 00:28:990 - pretty much the same case than Ayyri's Oni: The Doublets doesn't really fit in comparison with the music, I think the extra beat the music adds from 00:28:990 - makes a huge impact change so the doublets are more appropriate there than using them before already. So finally I recommend to get rid of the doublets in this part.
I prefer to keep these, mainly for two reasons:
  1. The strong drum that I am mapping here is present right from the beginning, so I think it makes sense to map this.
  2. The transition effect from the beginning to the section of 00:28:990 and the following section of 00:36:990 would not work as well if note density were even lower right at the start, I don't think it's such an intense difference between the first two sections, I seeit as a gradual increase. And I don't see it as a problem to have the main beat from the beginning and gradually add to it in this way.

00:39:990 (1,2,3,4,5) - I find the decision to have kdddk here is.. weird. It feels overdone and not really suitable with the music imo. One thing you could do is to change (1) to d, to have ddddk, this fits better with the background music. An alternative to add more rhythm would be to remove (3) so you have kd dk which sounds cool. Changed to ddddk, I think doubles don't fit because the 1/4 is continuous here.
00:41:740 (10,11,12,13,14) - same case here, I'd recommend to remove (13). Made this part consistent with the previous part at kdd kkd instead.
00:42:990 (17,18,19) - Instead of the case above, kddkd would fit here well. But I am unsure if you want to follow the vocals at all. I think it's better to leave a space here, for consistency in the structure of the other doubles in this part.
00:52:865 (60) - I really don't see to use dkk here instead of ddk. Maybe I just fail to hear out where exactly is the significant sound which makes it worth? idk There are fairly strong claps here, changed to kkd though.
01:24:240 (111,112,113,114) - You may want to change them into kd dk. I think triples work fine as they land on the strong sounds of both piano and drum, changed the part before a bit though.

BGM mapping isn't really my taste here but I guess it works.
Thanks for modding!
snow's Inner Oni
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256,192,100615,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100990,1,4,0:0:0:0:

@Ayyri: I tuned down hitsounds for my diff a bit, you may want to have a listen at 50-60%, I find it sounds a bit nicer.
yuzu__rinrin
943 posts
Joined July 2014
yuzu__rinrin
hi~ from your queue

[Kantan]
  • good kantan :)
  1. 00:51:990 (39,40) - delete break please.
  2. 01:07:990 (60,61) - delete ^
[Futsuu]
  1. 01:07:490 (1,2) - Ctrl+g
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:42:990 (6,7,8) - d kk ?
  2. 00:46:990 (19) - k Take vocal according to 00:47:490 (20,21) -
  3. 00:51:365 (34) - d?
  4. 00:58:990 (6,7,8) - d kk?
  5. 01:02:990 (8) - d
  6. 01:07:365 (8) - d
  7. 01:14:240 (8) - delete?
  8. 01:22:240 (19) - delete?
[Ayyri's Oni]
  1. 00:32:615 (55) - d
  2. 00:34:115 (63) - delete
  3. 00:44:615 (112) - delete
  4. 00:47:865 (125) - move to 00:47:865 (125) -
  5. 01:00:615 (188) - delete
  6. 01:04:240 - add d
[snow's Inner Oni]
  • fun map :3
  1. 00:44:740 (25,26) - ctrl+g
  2. 00:45:740 (29,30,31) - ddk How about matching 00:44:990 (26,28,31) - and 01:00:990 (3,4,5) - ?(k k k)
  3. 00:47:365 (37,38) - ctrl+g
  4. 00:47:740 (39,40) - ctrl+g ^
goodluck~:3
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

hi~ from your queue

[Kantan]
  • good kantan :)
  1. 00:51:990 (39,40) - delete break please. I would rather prefer to keep it because the notes there are strong and it can be managed in Kantan
  2. 01:07:990 (60,61) - delete ^ ^
[Futsuu]
  1. 01:07:490 (1,2) - Ctrl+g I would prefer to leave it because it reflects the pitch more accurately as it is
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:42:990 (6,7,8) - d kk ? current pattern reflects the pitch more accurately, and kk is harder to play than dk imo
  2. 00:46:990 (19) - k Take vocal according to 00:47:490 (20,21) - Fixed~!
  3. 00:51:365 (34) - d? I'm keeping it for the same reason as before
  4. 00:58:990 (6,7,8) - d kk? ^
  5. 01:02:990 (8) - d Fixed~!
  6. 01:07:365 (8) - d I'm keeping it for the same reason as before
  7. 01:14:240 (8) - delete? I don't want this area to lose intensity
  8. 01:22:240 (19) - delete? ^
goodluck~:3
Thank you for modding!! :D
Hantsuki
178 posts
Joined November 2013
Hantsuki
M4M from your Q

[Kantan]
  1. 00:22:990 (3) - k
  2. 00:26:990 (8) - k - because the song is "building"
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:22:990 (3) - k
  2. 00:26:990 (9) - k
  3. 01:01:490 (14) - I prefer d here
  4. 01:03:490 (19) - ^
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:22:490 (5,6,7) - kkd
    since you are repeting this pattern, use kkd for others
  2. 01:14:990 (4) - d
  3. 01:30:990 (4,5,6) - dkd instead kdk
[Ayyri's Oni]
  1. 00:22:990 (8) - what about d?
  2. 00:32:615 (55) - d
  3. 01:06:490 (217,218) - kd
  4. 01:08:490 (229) - k
I cannot mod inner oni, sorry :(

I know it's poor mod, but I'm begginer :z
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

desireofpainx wrote:

M4M from your Q

[Kantan]
  1. 00:22:990 (3) - k it is a k
  2. 00:26:990 (8) - k - because the song is "building" it is a k
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:22:990 (3) - k it is a k
  2. 00:26:990 (9) - k it is a k
  3. 01:01:490 (14) - I prefer d here I prefer to keep the similar sounding vocals together
  4. 01:03:490 (19) - ^ ^
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:22:490 (5,6,7) - kkd that would make it the same as the prvious triplet, which isn't a good idea there
    since you are repeting this pattern, use kkd for others ^
  2. 01:14:990 (4) - d I prefer to keep the similar sounding vocals together
  3. 01:30:990 (4,5,6) - dkd instead kdk I like using d when the pitch is falling uwu
I cannot mod inner oni, sorry :( no worries uwu

I know it's poor mod, but I'm begginer :z don't worry about it
thanks for modding~!!
Nifty
Beatmap Nominator
898 posts
Joined September 2014
Nifty
I have come from the queue hi

- Kantan
  1. Damn this is good.
  2. Nice repetition, I don't think I can do anything here.
- Futsuu -
  1. 00:49:990 (24) - d, to lead into following pattern
  2. 00:51:990 (27) - d, matches beginning of next phrase
  3. 01:08:990 (1) - K, last phrase ends in k, also a high pitch
  4. 01:16:990 (16) - ^ (but k)
  5. 01:16:990 (16) - ^
  6. 01:24:990 (31) - ^
  7. 01:12:990 (9) - ^ pretty much same
  8. 01:20:990 (25) - ^
  9. 01:28:990 (39) - ^
  10. 01:36:990 (55) - ^
- Muzukashii -
  1. Yezz the voice emphasis comes out
  2. That's it
- Oni -
  1. 00:20:990 (1,2,3,4,5) - ddkdk, to establish the k every beat pattern
  2. The kiai break at 01:24:490 - is in no other difficulty, remove it or change every other difficulty to fit ^^
  3. Oh that's it, nice.
- {Inner} Oni -
  1. I don't know much about inner oni patterns, but these are definitely what they are... just slow.
  2. The density before the kiai is slackin, for example, at 01:00:990 - I would map: k ddk kdk ddkdkkd
  3. Although you may say "well less is more haha," I say, it's the hardest diff, an Inner at that, so why not consume the player in beats.
  4. If you're worried about mapping empty space before the beat, look at 01:05:240 - where the same thing happens. Oh, and the entire kiai.
I've never mapped an Inner and I don't play Inner so it's all up to your jurisdiction, but I hope you found some of this helpful ^^
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Nifty wrote:

I have come from the queue hi

- Kantan
  1. Damn this is good.
  2. Nice repetition, I don't think I can do anything here.
- Futsuu -
  1. 00:49:990 (24) - d, to lead into following pattern k is good because im following the vocal pitches and it's identical to the previous kat here
  2. 00:51:990 (27) - d, matches beginning of next phrase fixed but for different reasons lol
  3. 01:08:990 (1) - K, last phrase ends in k, also a high pitch hmmmm, sure but I'll have to switch the previous not to a d
  4. 01:16:990 (16) - ^ (but k) sure
  5. 01:16:990 (16) - ^ thats the same timestamp lol
  6. 01:24:990 (31) - ^ sure
  7. 01:12:990 (9) - ^ pretty much same ^
  8. 01:20:990 (25) - ^ ^
  9. 01:28:990 (39) - ^ ^
  10. 01:36:990 (55) - ^ ^
- Muzukashii -
  1. Yezz the voice emphasis comes out
  2. That's it
I've never mapped an Inner and I don't play Inner so it's all up to your jurisdiction, but I hope you found some of this helpful ^^
that was a pretty decent mod for a beginner :D
thanks so much for modding~!!
snowball112
363 posts
Joined February 2013
snowball112

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

hi~ from your queue
[snow's Inner Oni]
  • fun map :3 yay :3
  1. 00:44:740 (25,26) - ctrl+g I think the vocal+instrument is not strong enough on 00:44:990 - for k here.
  2. 00:45:740 (29,30,31) - ddk How about matching 00:44:990 (26,28,31) - and 01:00:990 (3,4,5) - ?(k k k) I think 00:45:740 - works fine as kkd because of the sounds in the background. And these two parts are different because the second one has stronger sounds on these notes.
  3. 00:47:365 (37,38) - ctrl+g I think these are fine for clap and instrument, I would like to keep the dk doublet strucure.
  4. 00:47:740 (39,40) - ctrl+g ^ ^
goodluck~:3
Thanks for your mod!

Nifty wrote:

I have come from the queue hi
- {Inner} Oni -
  1. I don't know much about inner oni patterns, but these are definitely what they are... just slow.
  2. The density before the kiai is slackin, for example, at 01:00:990 - I would map: k ddk kdk ddkdkkd Changed in a different way to match the instruments as dk ddk kkk.
  3. Although you may say "well less is more haha," I say, it's the hardest diff, an Inner at that, so why not consume the player in beats. I was rather thinking about putting emphasis on the strong drum beats by havin ghtem isolated but it makes more sense to make the parts of 01:00:990 - and 00:44:990 - more similar in density.
  4. If you're worried about mapping empty space before the beat, look at 01:05:240 - where the same thing happens. Oh, and the entire kiai. I just added notes on 01:13:240 - and 01:21:240 - for the instrument, the other spacings should be fine.
I've never mapped an Inner and I don't play Inner so it's all up to your jurisdiction, but I hope you found some of this helpful ^^
Thanks for your mod!

snow's Inner Oni
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Snowy Heat
296 posts
Joined December 2011
Snowy Heat
Hi! M4M from your queue
All diffs that i didn't write mod to are good for me.

Muzukashii


00:35:990 (39) - i'd better make a break by deleting this note; there is not any strong beat and muzu players better have some space to prepare for the next part of the song.
00:59:740 (9) - maybe switch this to k? high pitch there.
01:40:740 (3) - ^ same but i hear drum sound.
Ayyri's Oni

00:47:615 (124) - maybe k here? high pitch after all.
Sorry it's not that much, but that's all I could find. Good luck~
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Hitsu wrote:

Hi! M4M from your queue
All diffs that i didn't write mod to are good for me.

Muzukashii


00:35:990 (39) - i'd better make a break by deleting this note; there is not any strong beat and muzu players better have some space to prepare for the next part of the song. when I've been following the synth this whole section, stopping right there seems counterproductive and pointless
00:59:740 (9) - maybe switch this to k? high pitch there. yes the pitch is high in the absolute, but throughout the map I follow relative pitches relatively to the pitches around them, not in absolute terms
01:40:740 (3) - ^ same but i hear drum sound. ^
Sorry it's not that much, but that's all I could find. Good luck~ don't worry >w<
thanks for modding~!! :D
Lumenite-
625 posts
Joined April 2015
Lumenite-
Woooo NM from discord

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:22:490 (5) - I think this note would be better suited as a kat because it's pitch is higher than note 6
  2. 00:26:990 (17) - The same goes here, even if you redeem it has too repetitive, they are the same sound after all
  3. 00:27:490 (18) - Shouldn't this be a kat like at 00:23:490?
  4. 00:34:490 (35,36,37) - ddk is now okay because there's a bass drum hit on the first d, but keep it a ddk here to, not kdd just for consistency
  5. 00:47:990 (20,21,22,23,24) - I'd variate this a little bit and do d k d k d
That's about all I could find tbh lol, this is a creepily engaging song, gl w/ rank~
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Taikocracy wrote:

Woooo NM from discord

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:22:490 (5) - I think this note would be better suited as a kat because it's pitch is higher than note 6 I would agree with adding more repetition, if the patterns were the same. In this case, the d is there to differentiate between the pitch 00:21:490 (2) - here, and having different patterns just makes it more fun to play.
  2. 00:26:990 (17) - The same goes here you shouldn't say this a lot in taiko because consistency implies that the mapper has reasoning for their patterns and would generally be unwilling to change them, but in some cases you do have a chance. In this case, denied for the same reasoning, even if you redeem it has too repetitive, they are the same sound after all
  3. 00:27:490 (18) - Shouldn't this be a kat like at 00:23:490? No, when the pitch changes in a section, I like to emphasize the highest pitch with a k and a d before it. In this case, I'm emphasizing the next note with a d here and a k there.
  4. 00:34:490 (35,36,37) - ddk is now okay because there's a bass drum hit on the first d, but keep it a ddk here to, not kdd just for consistency this pattern is a perfect example of the reasoning I follow, using d's when the pitch falls almost ignoring the drums lol. I have mapped some of the bass drums as dons, but I might as well switch 00:32:990 (31) - this to don for the bass, right?
  5. 00:47:990 (20,21,22,23,24) - I'd variate this a little bit and do d k d k d i don't want to use back/forth where I could be following pitches owo
That's about all I could find tbh lol, this is a creepily engaging song, gl w/ rank~
thanks for modding~!!
Volta
1,622 posts
Joined March 2014
Volta
from your q~

[Kantan]
this diff is lacking 4/1 break. the song might be slow, but you shouldn't forget the basic structure of kantan.
  1. 00:27:990 (9,10) - consider to remove these notes to achieve proper break usage for kantan
  2. 00:36:490 - same as ^
  3. 00:51:990 - and 00:52:490 - same as ^
  4. 01:07:990 - and 01:08:490 - same as ^
  5. 01:23:740 - same as ^
[Futsuu]
i think the intro can be made less dense, since it is relatively calmer. while in other parts you can try to increase the density to closer the gap with muzu. for the intro how about:
  1. 00:23:490 - and 00:27:490 - remove
  2. 00:28:490 - move to 00:29:490 - and change to d
  3. 00:28:990 - change to k
  4. 00:31:490 - remove
  5. 00:35:490 - , 00:35:990 - remove
  6. 00:36:990 - change to d
for 00:36:990 ~ 00:52:990 - i could suggest:
  1. 00:38:490 and 00:39:740 - add d
  2. 00:42:490 and 00:43:740 - add d
  3. 00:50:490 and 00:50:740 - add d
same suggestion could also be applied for 00:52:990 ~ 01:07:990 -

for kiai:
  1. 01:08:490 - remove for rest before kiai
  2. 01:24:740 - can be removed too. it seems not comfortable for futsuu, and for wise break since kiai is kinda complex for beginner
[Muzukashii]
same as futsuu, intro could be simplified
  1. 00:22:740 - and 00:24:490 - remove
  2. 00:26:740 - and 00:28:490 - ^
  3. 00:30:740 - and 00:32:490 - ^
  4. 00:34:740 - and 00:35:990 - ^

  5. 00:52:240 - consider to remove to give emphasis to the vocal, and is better spread with futsuu
  6. 01:08:240 (3,4) - remove, then 01:08:615 - move to 01:08:490 - and change to d, same reason as ^
[Ayyri's Oni]
will only mention general stuffs here since i think this diff is not ready and need further polishing
  1. 01:24:490 ~ 01:24:990 - consider to not cut the kiai here to have consistent kiai time with other diffs
  2. same as i mention in futsuu and muzukashii, intro can be made much simpler. it is even denser than inner oni currently. avoid using too much 1/4 on that calm session
  3. Rhythm choice is questionable and seems inconsistent, e.g. if you compare 00:40:115 (90,91,92,93) - and 00:56:240 (163,164,165,166) - , i don't see any reason why they are mapped differently. i would also question the rhythm choice at 00:52:990 (151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161) - and 00:56:990 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181) - being inconsistent, also with 00:36:990 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84) -
[Snow's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:34:240 - removing this note would go well with other duplets in the intro, like 00:30:240 -
  2. 00:37:865 - move to 00:38:115 - ? flows better and fits the stretched vocal sound imo
  3. 00:41:865 - move to 00:42:115 - ? same as ^
  4. 00:45:865 - move to 00:46:115 - and rearrange the 5-plet to something like dkddk?
  5. 00:48:115 - can add k
  6. 00:51:240 - and 00:51:365 - consider to add d here to match the vocal, it feels to empty at this point, for this level of difficulty
  7. 00:51:740 - add k? same reason as ^
  8. 00:53:865 - move to 00:54:115 - same reason as 00:37:865
good luck :3
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Volta wrote:

from your q~

[Kantan]
this diff is lacking 4/1 break. the song might be slow, but you shouldn't forget the basic structure of kantan.
  1. 00:27:990 (9,10) - consider to remove these notes to achieve proper break usage for kantan
  2. 00:36:490 - same as ^
  3. 00:51:990 - and 00:52:490 - same as ^
  4. 01:07:990 - and 01:08:490 - same as ^
  5. 01:23:740 - same as ^
[Futsuu]
i think the intro can be made less dense, since it is relatively calmer. while in other parts you can try to increase the density to closer the gap with muzu. for the intro how about:
  1. 00:23:490 - and 00:27:490 - remove
  2. 00:28:490 - move to 00:29:490 - and change to d
  3. 00:28:990 - change to k
  4. 00:31:490 - remove
  5. 00:35:490 - , 00:35:990 - remove
  6. 00:36:990 - change to d
for 00:36:990 ~ 00:52:990 - i could suggest:
  1. 00:38:490 and 00:39:740 - add d
  2. 00:42:490 and 00:43:740 - add d
  3. 00:50:490 and 00:50:740 - add d
same suggestion could also be applied for 00:52:990 ~ 01:07:990 -

for kiai:
  1. 01:08:490 - remove for rest before kiai
  2. 01:24:740 - can be removed too. it seems not comfortable for futsuu, and for wise break since kiai is kinda complex for beginner
[Muzukashii]
same as futsuu, intro could be simplified
  1. 00:22:740 - and 00:24:490 - remove
  2. 00:26:740 - and 00:28:490 - ^
  3. 00:30:740 - and 00:32:490 - ^
  4. 00:34:740 - and 00:35:990 - ^

  5. 00:52:240 - consider to remove to give emphasis to the vocal, and is better spread with futsuu
  6. 01:08:240 (3,4) - remove, then 01:08:615 - move to 01:08:490 - and change to d, same reason as ^
good luck :3
all fixed, thank you =w=
Snowy Heat
296 posts
Joined December 2011
Snowy Heat
when will it be ranked finalyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;www; /me cries
the song is too cute, i'm dying
snowball112
363 posts
Joined February 2013
snowball112

Volta wrote:

from your q~
[Snow's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:34:240 - removing this note would go well with other duplets in the intro, like 00:30:240 -
  2. 00:37:865 - move to 00:38:115 - ? flows better and fits the stretched vocal sound imo
  3. 00:41:865 - move to 00:42:115 - ? same as ^
  4. 00:45:865 - move to 00:46:115 - and rearrange the 5-plet to something like dkddk?
  5. 00:48:115 - can add k
  6. 00:51:240 - and 00:51:365 - consider to add d here to match the vocal, it feels to empty at this point, for this level of difficulty
  7. 00:51:740 - add k? same reason as ^
  8. 00:53:865 - move to 00:54:115 - same reason as 00:37:865
good luck :3
Thanks a lot Volta!

Unfortunately, I can't really respond to the above, because I basically remapped my diff to have less notes and be more fitting to the song, adjusted some parts for vocal emphasis though.
Snowy Heat
296 posts
Joined December 2011
Snowy Heat

snowball112 wrote:

Unfortunately, I can't really respond to the above, because I basically remapped my diff to have less notes and be more fitting to the song, adjusted some parts for vocal emphasis though.
that's nice actually because your diff seemed to be a bit overwhelming
^ don't bite me for that please

i guess i will look through all the mapset again to take a fresh look
maybe will find something to suggest~
i was a shitty modder when i modded this first so maybe now i will actually do something nice for this
i hope
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
overall mapset looks fine for me, just snow diff that I concern at non kiai part bcus some 5plet are a bit dense. 00:19:250 - 00:23:250 - 00:35:250 - 00:39:250 - and just these. you can delete those so the 5plet are become double xx then a bit reconstruction with colors. call me back
Skylish
1,070 posts
Joined June 2013
Skylish
From my modding queue, sorry for being late since I am still busy irl :*(

[General]

> I do not see a point using preview point at 68615... may you explain the reason behind?

[Ayyri's Oni]

> 00:14:250 - remove it to create a gap for resting? The chain is too long there imo.

> 00:19:125 - How about shifting shift it to 00:19:250 - , so as to make the nn nn pattern at 00:18:250 (84,85,86,87) - stand out? Consecutive 4 nn seems too rigid. (comparing with the pattern at 00:21:000 - )

> 00:26:625 - be consistent with 00:24:750 - , shift it to 00:26:750 - as the music goes the same.

> 00:27:625 - you know what to do, check 00:25:625 - / 00:23:625 - out.

> 00:28:125 - if you add note ^, you may shift it to 00:28:375 - due to the presence of instrumental melody here and avoid repetitive uses of triplet at the same time which is kinda weird.

> 00:30:500 - / 00:30:750 - / 00:31:000 - change them to k d d ? 00:30:500 - consistent drum kick kat, 00:30:750 - and 00:31:000 - share the same high pitch, being kat will be too clumsy.

> 00:35:125 - / 00:35:375 - Putting a circle in either one of the timings to strike a better balance with the previous sections of the same musical flow.

> 00:43:250 - did you miss a kat here?

> 00:43:625 - same as 00:27:625 -

> 00:44:125 - remove it to empty some space if you adopt the above change

> 00:48:000 - Changing it to K for a brighter contrast with 00:47:500 - ? I guess the purpose of using a don instead of kat at the latter due to the strong low-pitch drum HS.

> 00:49:500 - / 00:49:750 - ctrl+G for consistent drum kicks. 00:49:750 - it is fine with d although its pitch is quite high because the main body of melody actually falls on 00:50:000 -

> 00:54:875 - / 01:02:875 - / 01:10:875 - / 01:18:875 - it seems you missed a note here....

> 01:05:500 - / 01:05:750 - / ...ctrl+G as well

[snow's Oni]

> 00:03:250 - / 00:07:250 - they should be the same, either let them be blank or notes.

> 00:08:750 (28,29,30,31,32) - / 00:12:750 (44,45,46,47,48) - these sets of patterns are off-beat and do not match the music at all. 00:09:125 - / 00:13:125 - the problem is attributed by the positions of them, while the melody actually fall on 1/2 beat before. Make some changes here please.

> 00:30:000 (51,52,53) - these two beats sound very porous, the density sudden drops, why?

> 00:43:500 - change to k due to the high-pitch vocal?

[Futsuu]

> 00:32:500 - change to k to show a mirror colour with 00:16:000 (1,2) - ? (and also prevent consecutive uses of dkdkd)

[Muzukashii]

> 01:03:500 - shift to 01:03:375 - to match the melody?

Call me back later when everything is ready.
Last edited by Skylish , edited 1 time in total.
snowball112
363 posts
Joined February 2013
snowball112

Surono wrote:

overall mapset looks fine for me, just snow diff that I concern at non kiai part bcus some 5plet are a bit dense. 00:19:250 - 00:23:250 - 00:35:250 - 00:39:250 - and just these. you can delete those so the 5plet are become double xx then a bit reconstruction with colors. call me back
Changed all 5-note 1/4 patterns to doubles, thank you Sur!

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue, sorry for being late since I am still busy irl :*(

[General]

> I do not see a point using preview point at 68615... may you explain the reason behind? This was forgotten after the mp3 cut and change I believe, I've changed the one in my diff to 00:47:750 -

[snow's Oni]

> 00:03:250 - / 00:07:250 - they should be the same, either let them be blank or notes. Changed to blanks

> 00:08:750 (28,29,30,31,32) - / 00:12:750 (44,45,46,47,48) - these sets of patterns are off-beat and do not match the music at all. 00:09:125 - / 00:13:125 - the problem is attributed by the positions of them, while the melody actually fall on 1/2 beat before. Make some changes here please. Whoops, changed to k kkd dk d k in both cases

> 00:30:000 (51,52,53) - these two beats sound very porous, the density sudden drops, why? Increased density to match similar parts

> 00:43:500 - change to k due to the high-pitch vocal? Applied

Call me back later when everything is ready.
Thanks Skylish! Made some minor colour changes as well.

snow's Oni
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Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue, sorry for being late since I am still busy irl :*(

[General]

> I do not see a point using preview point at 68615... may you explain the reason behind? fixed, was a mistake

[Futsuu]

> 00:32:500 - change to k to show a mirror colour with 00:16:000 (1,2) - ? (and also prevent consecutive uses of dkdkd) fixed previous to d, was a mistake

[Muzukashii]

> 01:03:500 - shift to 01:03:375 - to match the melody? sure

Call me back later when everything is ready.
almost all ready
Skylish
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Skylish
Checking on Ayyri's diff. as she re-mapped. NO KDS

[Ayyri's Inner Oni]

! Why Kiai breaks?

> 00:00:250 - remove it to show consistencies between it with 00:04:250 - / 00:08:250 -

> 00:08:375 - awkward off-beat pattern to show a stylish gimmick here, while check 00:12:250 - please.

> 00:24:375 - 00:40:375 - another outstanding off-beat note here, consider removing it to provide a little break and maintain the consistency along this section with same vocal rhythm.

> 00:31:000 - / 00:31:250 - ctrl+G them? 00:31:250 - / 00:31:500 - are clear double claps.

> 00:32:375 - its style is different from 00:28:375 - . Be united by taking ref. at 00:36:500 -

> 00:45:250 - nnn nnn nnn patterns scattered here, the density flow could be done better with reference to the vocal notes. How about d_k here instead of dkd?

> From 00:48:000 - to 00:50:000 - , it has a higher density then the part from 01:04:000 - to 01:06:000 - , consider rearranging their (patterns in groups) positions. Same case in 00:56:000 -

> 01:08:875 - / 01:16:875 - how about removing them to make the piano kats at 01:09:000 - / 01:09:375 - / 01:17:000 - / 01:17:375 - be the 'heads'?

[Futsuu]

> The spread between Futsuu --- Muzukashii is a great concern. Try adding more notes in Futsuu to increase the no. of objects up to ~160.

> 00:22:000 (11,12,13) - / 00:38:000 (11,12,13) - / .(any kinds of n n n 2/1 patterns).. compare them with Muzukashi, check the spread here. You know what to do after that.

> 00:51:500 - / 00:53:500 - / .(any triplets timing in Muzukashii).. add some notes to balance the density.

> 01:03:000 - a great gap here, fill it up with a few notes :> .

[Muzukashii]

> 00:47:500 (3,4) - swap them due to the drum kick at 00:47:500 -

I will do a final check when all difficulties are ready again.
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Skylish wrote:

NO KDS


are ya sure?
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Skylish wrote:

Checking on Ayyri's diff. as she re-mapped. NO KDS

[Futsuu]

> The spread between Futsuu --- Muzukashii is a great concern. Try adding more notes in Futsuu to increase the no. of objects up to ~160. sure, raised to ~152

> 00:22:000 (11,12,13) - / 00:38:000 (11,12,13) - / .(any kinds of n n n 2/1 patterns).. compare them with Muzukashi, check the spread here. You know what to do after that. Comparing these difficulties too directly would cause me to to lose my intended patterns for these areas. For example, I'm not going to map the vocals that are 1/4 in this Futsuu because it's a simple Futsuu and they would be out of place. I buffed this doff to roughly 150 objects, and I think it's all good.

> 00:51:500 - / 00:53:500 - / .(any triplets timing in Muzukashii).. add some notes to balance the density. ^

> 01:03:000 - a great gap here, fill it up with a few notes :> . sure

[Muzukashii]

> 00:47:500 (3,4) - swap them due to the drum kick at 00:47:500 - no thanks, I'm following the bells here as they're really emphasized here

I will do a final check when all difficulties are ready again.
thanks for modding ^_^
Jonarwhal
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updated

kiai breaks don't need to be changed because it's a one minute kiai, breaking that long of a kiai is reasonable

triplepost
Skylish
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Skylish
Re-check, NO KDS

[General]

> Source should be 'Relax In The City / Pick Me Up' Please refer to the official webpage, and the 'Property' in your .mp3

Source ref.


http://www.perfume-web.jp/discography/?s21

> Title ref.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlXtfum8KeY


[Ayyri's Inner Oni]

! Refer to my mod at p/6186881, some points are unsolved, please reply them in any methods:

> 00:00:250 - still inconsistent

> 00:12:250 - remove it to fit the offbeat pattern at 00:08:375 -

> 00:32:250 - still not unified with 00:36:250 -

> not a fan of kiai breaking flashes, but they do not actually go against RC so I let them be.

[Futsuu]

> 01:03:000 - k sounds better imo

[Muzukashii]

> 01:03:750 - d K emphasis is better than k K, for the sake of consistency across difficulties as well.

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Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Skylish wrote:

Re-check, NO KDS

[General]

> Source should be 'Relax In The City / Pick Me Up' Please refer to the official webpage, and the 'Property' in your .mp3

Source ref.


http://www.perfume-web.jp/discography/?s21

> Title ref.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlXtfum8KeY

that is the album, not the source, this has no source, and I included "pick me up" in the tags, but I'm not including the song's name in the tags because it's the song's name


[Futsuu]

> 01:03:000 - k sounds better imo k is only used for vocals in this section

[Muzukashii]

> 01:03:750 - d K emphasis is better than k K, for the sake of consistency across difficulties as well. instrument is rising so it's better flow

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thank youuu

the kiai breaks make sense because the kiai is looooong

Skylish
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Skylish
> Fixed Snow's Oni base SV to 1.4 since this is an essential change

> Fixed Ayyri's Inner Oni with minor removal of notes

> Sorry I dont know how to distinguish album between source ;w; I made a mistake in my previous post, I apologized that.

Bubbled~
Surono
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Surono
Relax In Taiko City
xtrem3x
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xtrem3x
kiai time in inner ... welp -w-
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Surono wrote:

Relax In Taiko City
thank you
Raiden
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Raiden
Grats!
Jonarwhal
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Raiden wrote:

Grats!
Thank you!!
Lumenite-
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Lumenite-
finally a jonawaga taiko map
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!where pp
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello Jon and guys, I would like to point out some issues existing in the set.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:48:000 - 01:20:000 - there are no 2/1 or longer breaks throughout the kiai. making the gap with Kantan quite significant. I would suggest removing some notes so beginners could rest a bit between patterns.
  2. 00:48:500 (2) - delete ? By doing this there will be a 2/1 break placing naturally between vocals.
  3. 00:56:500 (18) - 01:04:500 (2) - 01:12:500 (18) - same as ^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:15:500 to 01:20:000 - there are no 3/2 or longer breaks throughout this 65-second session. This is rather demanding compared to the availability of rest moments in Futsuu.
  2. 00:47:500 (3,4) - these notes could simply be removed for a 2/1 break before the dense kiai.
  • [Ayyri's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:55:750 - 01:03:750 - 01:11:750 - I would recommend removing these kiai gaps. They are in fact unnecessary as the pace of music remain constant and pose visual interference due to frequent on-off toggling.
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