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Long Short Party - Ano Hi Time Machine

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Aginagala
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 08 July 2016 at 23:19:49

Artist: Long Short Party
Title: Ano Hi Time Machine
Source: Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou
BPM: 91
Filesize: 1680kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Extra (5.61 stars, 412 notes)
Download: Long Short Party - Ano Hi Time Machine
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 08 June 2016 at 19:50:49

Artist: Long Short Party
Title: Ano Hi Time Machine
Source: Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou
BPM: 91
Filesize: 1680kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (5.63 stars, 411 notes)
Download: Long Short Party - Ano Hi Time Machine
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Cyan Yoshi
Good first map, here's the mod!
SPOILER
00:04:237 (4) - remove this slider, it breaks the feel of the song
00:03:248 (1,2) - move them to 00:03:413 (1,2) - it fits the song much better and is consistent with your later mapping
00:06:050 (2,3) - change these two notes to a slider to maintain that same feel
00:06:709 (1) - remove this slider because you added a slider at 00:06:050 (2,3) so its no longer needed
00:01:435 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - with the slider changes on these parts you may need to adjust the notes afterwards so there are no breaks in the song, do that while maintaing flow in the map
00:15:940 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - although it may have been fun to map this part is just awkward and doesn't fit the song, it is also somewhat hard to play so I suggest changing it to something that more fits the song like the style at the beginning of your map
00:31:270 (5) - when starting a stream make sure the first note isnt hidden underneath the slider like you have here. just move this note out a bit and adjust the rest of the stream accordingly
00:36:874 (1,2,3) - double after the slider here is awkward and doesnt fit in with your other triples
00:51:544 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - stream is forced and not needed
00:55:171 (3,4,5) - add notes on the red ticks to, this sudden change of rhythm with only notes on white ticks feels weird
01:00:940 (3,4,5,6) - rhythm is much too sporadic, even though it sounds like it fits the song make it more consistent so it's easier to play
01:06:709 (1) - song changes key here and gets higher pitch which should signify the use of larger spacing between notes but you use the same spacing as the beginning of the map. change it to make this point stand out
01:10:088 (6) - a stream like this should never end on a blue tick, delete this note
01:11:489 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - this section of single tapping is way to long, add some sliders in here that fit the rhythm
01:21:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - if your going to have a part like this make the pattern a little easier to follow, like change the 2 4 6 8 notes so they are in a row and not at random locations

overall you're off to a great start, there are a lot of good ideas in here but they are very sporadic and don't commonly stick to the rhythms and ideas from the song. Keep playing around with things and try to map as close to the song as possible. If you have any questions comments regarding my suggestions feel free to message me in game like we've been doing or reply to this :D

also here is our chat log regarding changes for the map if you forgot anything I said

SPOILER
2016-06-08 10:59 Cyan Yoshi: hey man!
2016-06-08 10:59 Cyan Yoshi: could you np the map?
2016-06-08 11:00 Aginagala: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/997815 Long Short Party - Ano Hi Time Machine]
2016-06-08 11:01 Aginagala: So...
2016-06-08 11:01 Aginagala: About that slider part
2016-06-08 11:01 Cyan Yoshi: hold up, i
2016-06-08 11:01 Aginagala: Got any suggestions?
2016-06-08 11:01 Cyan Yoshi: i'm fixing the timing first
2016-06-08 11:01 Aginagala: Oh...
2016-06-08 11:06 Cyan Yoshi: alright fixed the timing
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: set the bpm to 182.00 and the offset to 1,435
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: that should do it
2016-06-08 11:07 Aginagala: Hmm?
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: under timing
2016-06-08 11:07 Aginagala: Was it just the offset?
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: no bpm was too fast
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: it should be 182.00
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: and offset should be 14,35
2016-06-08 11:07 Cyan Yoshi: whoops 1,435
2016-06-08 11:07 Aginagala: The bpm was 182...
2016-06-08 11:08 Aginagala: Thank you for the offset <3
2016-06-08 11:08 Cyan Yoshi: oh i thought it was like 182.something, my bad
2016-06-08 11:08 Aginagala: I struggled to find that
2016-06-08 11:08 Cyan Yoshi: you sure the bpm is 182.00?
2016-06-08 11:08 Aginagala: Yup
2016-06-08 11:08 Cyan Yoshi: alright awesome
2016-06-08 11:08 Aginagala: <3
2016-06-08 11:09 Cyan Yoshi: I'll try modding this in like 10ish minutes, i gotta eat breakfast
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: So umm
2016-06-08 11:09 Cyan Yoshi: i'll pay special attention to the slider part
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: Modding it?
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: I think I'd prefer if you told me what to improve
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: So I know for future referance
2016-06-08 11:09 Cyan Yoshi: what time is that at? the sliders you were talking about
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: If someone does it for me
2016-06-08 11:09 Cyan Yoshi: Modding: is giving a list of suggestions on how to improve a map
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: 00:29:019 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: Oh
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: Haha
2016-06-08 11:09 Aginagala: You can tell I'm new :P
2016-06-08 11:10 Aginagala: I really appreciate this though
2016-06-08 11:10 Cyan Yoshi: no problem, there's lots to learn in the mapping community so I'll link you to a page with a bunch of terms bc mappers use them often
2016-06-08 11:11 Aginagala: Awesome
2016-06-08 11:11 Cyan Yoshi: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Modding
2016-06-08 11:11 Cyan Yoshi: this is good to read over before your first map https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Beatmapping
2016-06-08 11:11 Cyan Yoshi: brb breakfast
2016-06-08 11:18 Aginagala: My friend says
2016-06-08 11:18 Aginagala: The hp is too high
2016-06-08 11:18 Aginagala: What do you think?
2016-06-08 11:24 Cyan Yoshi: did you update the map with the new offset?
2016-06-08 11:25 Aginagala: Yeah
2016-06-08 11:25 Cyan Yoshi: cool i'll play test it right now and see what i think
2016-06-08 11:25 Aginagala: Sure
2016-06-08 11:27 Cyan Yoshi: nah hp is fine
2016-06-08 11:27 Aginagala: Hmm ok
2016-06-08 11:30 Cyan Yoshi: for the beginning your sliders are really random, try to be consistant and keep the sliders on the same beats. like the 1st beat of every other measure or something like that
2016-06-08 11:31 Aginagala: Urm
2016-06-08 11:31 Aginagala: Sure
2016-06-08 11:31 Cyan Yoshi: for example
2016-06-08 11:32 Cyan Yoshi: move 00:11:489 (1,2) - to right here 00:11:325 (1,2) - just that simple change makes the mapping follow the song so much better and it feels much more right
2016-06-08 11:32 Cyan Yoshi: also for your combos
2016-06-08 11:32 Aginagala: Change them around?
2016-06-08 11:33 Cyan Yoshi: no get rid of the red note at 00:11:325 (5) -
2016-06-08 11:33 Cyan Yoshi: and move the two sliders at 00:11:489 (1,2) - to 00:11:325
2016-06-08 11:34 Aginagala: 00:11:464 (1,2) -
2016-06-08 11:34 Cyan Yoshi: oh also because you changed the offset you need to go to timing at the white bar on top and press resnap all notes
2016-06-08 11:36 Cyan Yoshi: a slider like 00:27:808 (5) - shhould never end on a blue tick
2016-06-08 11:36 Cyan Yoshi: change the ending to a white tick
2016-06-08 11:36 Aginagala: 00:29:019 (1) -
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: You mean this one?
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: 27:808 is a note
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: Oh
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: Sorry
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: Stuff messing up
2016-06-08 11:37 Cyan Yoshi: is 00:27:808 (5) - on a blue tick for you?
2016-06-08 11:37 Cyan Yoshi: its a long slider
2016-06-08 11:37 Cyan Yoshi: did you resnap all notes?
2016-06-08 11:37 Aginagala: Umm
2016-06-08 11:38 Aginagala: By the white bar
2016-06-08 11:38 Aginagala: You mean under all the ticks/
2016-06-08 11:38 Cyan Yoshi: at the top of your screen
2016-06-08 11:38 Cyan Yoshi: the white task bar thing
2016-06-08 11:38 Cyan Yoshi: with file edit view...
2016-06-08 11:38 Cyan Yoshi: click timing
2016-06-08 11:38 Cyan Yoshi: then resnap all notes
2016-06-08 11:39 Aginagala: Ah
2016-06-08 11:39 Aginagala: There we go, :)
2016-06-08 11:39 Cyan Yoshi: alright good
2016-06-08 11:39 Cyan Yoshi: one thing about combos
2016-06-08 11:39 Aginagala: Urm
2016-06-08 11:39 Cyan Yoshi: they should almost always start on white ticks
2016-06-08 11:39 Aginagala: It ends at a good point though...
2016-06-08 11:39 Cyan Yoshi: yours start all over the place
2016-06-08 11:39 Aginagala: Oh... haha ok
2016-06-08 11:39 Cyan Yoshi: are you talking about 00:27:808 (5) -
2016-06-08 11:40 Aginagala: Yeah
2016-06-08 11:40 Aginagala: I feel it works with the music better?
2016-06-08 11:40 Aginagala: Than ending at a white tick
2016-06-08 11:40 Aginagala: Next to it
2016-06-08 11:40 Cyan Yoshi: it shouldnt end on a blue tick, that's not in rythym
2016-06-08 11:40 Cyan Yoshi: and then 00:28:632 (6,7) - should be on red and white ticks because otherwise they are not on beat
2016-06-08 11:41 Cyan Yoshi: try fixing that and see if you still think it all sounds weird
2016-06-08 11:42 Aginagala: Urm
2016-06-08 11:43 Aginagala: 00:28:550 (6,7) -
2016-06-08 11:43 Cyan Yoshi: yes?
2016-06-08 11:44 Aginagala: I changed it
2016-06-08 11:44 Aginagala: To a slider
2016-06-08 11:44 Aginagala: At the end
2016-06-08 11:44 Aginagala: Of the long slider
2016-06-08 11:44 Aginagala: Hang on
2016-06-08 11:44 Cyan Yoshi: hmm i think it sounds fine as 2 notes though because there are clearly two defined beats there in the song
2016-06-08 11:47 Aginagala: Alright
2016-06-08 11:47 Aginagala: I updated it
2016-06-08 11:47 Aginagala: Is that what you mean?
2016-06-08 11:49 Cyan Yoshi: almost but i meant put 00:28:550 (6,7) - on the red and white ticks not blue and red ticks
2016-06-08 11:49 Cyan Yoshi: and then space them out like you had them before
2016-06-08 11:50 Aginagala: Ah I see
2016-06-08 11:51 Aginagala: There we are
2016-06-08 11:51 Aginagala: It does sound much better :)
2016-06-08 11:51 Cyan Yoshi: yessss!!! alright awesome
2016-06-08 11:52 Aginagala: :)
2016-06-08 11:52 Aginagala: I wish there was a way I could like
2016-06-08 11:52 Aginagala: Give you stars
2016-06-08 11:52 Aginagala: Commend you for help
2016-06-08 12:03 Cyan Yoshi: you can, im almost done posting a mod and you can give me kuduso for it! ;D if you dont mind
2016-06-08 12:03 Cyan Yoshi: look up what kai time is, you need it in your map and you dont have it
2016-06-08 12:04 Cyan Yoshi: whoops kiai*
2016-06-08 12:04 Aginagala: Kiai time...
2016-06-08 12:04 Aginagala: Btw, how to give kuduso/ :)
2016-06-08 12:05 Aginagala: Oh I see
2016-06-08 12:05 Aginagala: When you get to a hard section
2016-06-08 12:06 Cyan Yoshi: hard section?
2016-06-08 12:07 Aginagala: Yeah
2016-06-08 12:07 Cyan Yoshi: what about it
2016-06-08 12:07 Aginagala: 01:07:369 (5) -
2016-06-08 12:07 Aginagala: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Kiai_Time
2016-06-08 12:07 Aginagala: he most common term for Kiai Time when editing beatmaps is the "strongest part of the song"
2016-06-08 12:07 Aginagala: So I'd put it here right?
2016-06-08 12:07 Cyan Yoshi: oh your talking about kiai, yes i would add it there! perfect assesment
2016-06-08 12:08 Aginagala: Awesome
2016-06-08 12:08 Aginagala: How to add? HAHA
2016-06-08 12:08 Aginagala: Haha*
2016-06-08 12:09 Cyan Yoshi: i'll teach you in a sec
2016-06-08 12:10 Aginagala: Sure.
Cheri
Oh how I wish I was expert and can help improve this map but since I suck I can only do so much
Better than my first map lol...

First check Aimod and fix those problems

You don't have a preview point and every song needs one :D

Another thing is the song sound low quality and I can't really hear it too much so try finding a better mp3

00:31:251 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - come on man this stream in this condition is too hard too read...
Try doing this to this 00:31:333 (1,2) - http://imgur.com/TM6gj4q and this to this 00:32:157 (1,2) - http://imgur.com/hat8lE4

01:07:762 (6,7) - this is too hard to read also so change this into this to make it easier http://imgur.com/06MfE9Q

01:09:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Once again.... try this please http://imgur.com/rLIi6ue

Well this is as much as I can help out since i'm learning how to mod and hope you can get others to help improve your mapping skills soon :)
Topic Starter
Aginagala
Thank you so much for the help man. I really feel like the map improved after your mod :)
Topic Starter
Aginagala
I really appreciate this. Although I'm not entirely sure whether I actually changed what you suggested haha.
You can check the map out and see if i've done it correctly if you so please :)
redyuniko
Gave mods in-game
Topic Starter
Aginagala

zeka wrote:

Gave mods in-game
Yep thank you!
ItashaS13
Hi :D



  • 00:03:888 (3) - this slider should be 2 circles, because 00:04:053 - large white tick, strong sound
    00:06:690 (1) - same here
    00:08:668 (2,3) - a slider should be placed here
    00:07:020 (2,3) - you have this long jump here like for no reason at all, is not a strong sound or smth, reduce spacing
    00:09:492 (7,1) - using jumps here and suddenly these two circles togheter, move the 1 further
    00:12:459 (1,2,3,4) - these jumps are too short compared to the rest
    00:14:602 (2) - this should be a far jump
    00:16:415 - a circle should be placed here and the slider @white tick
    00:17:240 (10) - move this further
    00:19:877 (4) - ^
    00:20:207 (6,7) - reduce spacing in these
    00:20:536 (1) - move this to the left, not too much
    00:22:514 (7) - this shape doesn look too good, maybe make some good art slider or smth :p? or at least make it a good looking curve http://prntscr.com/bp4vzi ??
    00:25:152 (5) - delete this anchor http://prntscr.com/bp4weq and move this one http://prntscr.com/bp4wjg down and left
    00:28:613 (6,7) - these circles should have the same distance with the slider end and the slider head
    00:31:086 - start the stream here in the white tick
    00:36:690 (7,1) - the spacing here is too short, move the 1 (slider) down
    00:48:229 (1,2,3,4) - fix ds in these, use the same
    00:52:185 - missed a beat
    00:57:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - fix ds in these and move the next slider (00:58:778 (1) - ) further
    00:59:273 (2) - move this to the left, same distance with the slider end and slider head
    01:02:569 (3,4,5,6) - use more distance in these
    01:10:646 (3,4) - fix ds in these
    01:18:723 (1,2) - ^
Gl, hope this helps :p
Renblo
I helped too
Topic Starter
Aginagala

Itasha_S13 wrote:

Hi :D



  • 00:03:888 (3) - this slider should be 2 circles, because 00:04:053 - large white tick, strong sound
    00:06:690 (1) - same here
    00:08:668 (2,3) - a slider should be placed here
    00:07:020 (2,3) - you have this long jump here like for no reason at all, is not a strong sound or smth, reduce spacing
    00:09:492 (7,1) - using jumps here and suddenly these two circles togheter, move the 1 further
    00:12:459 (1,2,3,4) - these jumps are too short compared to the rest
    00:14:602 (2) - this should be a far jump
    00:16:415 - a circle should be placed here and the slider @white tick
    00:17:240 (10) - move this further
    00:19:877 (4) - ^
    00:20:207 (6,7) - reduce spacing in these
    00:20:536 (1) - move this to the left, not too much
    00:22:514 (7) - this shape doesn look too good, maybe make some good art slider or smth :p? or at least make it a good looking curve http://prntscr.com/bp4vzi ??
    00:25:152 (5) - delete this anchor http://prntscr.com/bp4weq and move this one http://prntscr.com/bp4wjg down and left
    00:28:613 (6,7) - these circles should have the same distance with the slider end and the slider head
    00:31:086 - start the stream here in the white tick
    00:36:690 (7,1) - the spacing here is too short, move the 1 (slider) down
    00:48:229 (1,2,3,4) - fix ds in these, use the same
    00:52:185 - missed a beat
    00:57:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - fix ds in these and move the next slider (00:58:778 (1) - ) further
    00:59:273 (2) - move this to the left, same distance with the slider end and slider head
    01:02:569 (3,4,5,6) - use more distance in these
    01:10:646 (3,4) - fix ds in these
    01:18:723 (1,2) - ^
Gl, hope this helps :p
It really did. I went through and carefully changed the individual notes you suggested, overall making a really good map! Thanks to you!!!
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