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MYTH & ROID - STYX HELIX [Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年6月13日 at 17:23:43

Artist: MYTH & ROID
Title: STYX HELIX
Source: Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活
Tags: STRAIGHT BET TV Size Ending Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Life in a different world from zero
BPM: 123
Filesize: 2496kb
Play Time: 01:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.02 stars, 189 notes)
  2. Kotori's Kantan (1.1 stars, 115 notes)
  3. Muzukashi (2.43 stars, 281 notes)
  4. Oni (3.24 stars, 424 notes)
Download: MYTH & ROID - STYX HELIX
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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numbermaniac
Why is Oni lowercase?
Topic Starter
[Pw]Forgotten

numbermaniac wrote:

Why is Oni lowercase?


Oh I havent look out it .thx~
IControl
Hi M4m from my Queue


Kotori's Kantan


00:27:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - d It doesn't have to be all finisher in this section


01:06:426 (6,7) - change to d. Doesn't sound that heavy and 01:08:377 (8) - would sound better


01:09:353 (9) - d ^


01:10:329 (1,2,3) - change to k k D This sound a lot smoother imo and more accurate to the pitch of the song


01:15:207 (8) - d


01:15:694 - add note?


01:16:670 - ---> 01:18:133 - This should be remapped to follow the vocals because they sound very strong here


01:38:621 (9) - remove There's nothing playing in the song here

This was good so i tired not to change it to much feel free to disagree


Futsuu


00:14:963 (11) - move to 00:14:719 - mapping to bass guitar and drums


01:06:182 - add note?


00:16:670 - add note?

01:18:865 (80) - move to 01:19:109 -


Muzukashii


00:13:499 (11) - remove Doesn't sound necessary


00:15:451 (16) - ^


00:16:182 - add k This note sounds important


00:23:255 (39) - remove


00:23:743 - add d


00:27:890 - ---> 00:43:012 - this part should be remapped match the vocals because its sounds deep and heavy here.


00:49:109 (8) - k sounds higher



01:01:304 (36) - this could be removed


01:01:548 (36,37) - swap ctrl g to k d


01:03:743 (43) - remove


01:05:938 (49,50) - cltrl g


01:06:182 (50) - remove


01:06:914 (51) - change to k 01:07:158 - add note


01:08:377 (57) - D


01:08:621 (58,59) - remove


01:15:085 - add k Also 00:59:353 (31,32) - change to ddd or kkk Sorry i forgot to mention it. for constancy


01:16:182 - add note


01:16:670 - ----> 01:23:987 - Should be remapped to the vocals


01:25:694 (116) - remove


01:26:426 (117) - k sounds higher


01:27:890 (122) - k


01:29:109 (125,126) - this could be kkk


01:30:816 - add k mapping to piano


Oni


00:30:938 (89) - move this too here 00:31:182 - then go to 1/3 beat snap divisor and move over these 2 00:31:060 (89,90) - to 1/3 tics should look like this



00:38:743 (120,121) - remove Doesnt sound nesscary

00:50:816 - you could add note here


00:52:768 - ---> 01:23:987 - this should be remmaped to follow vocals and drum pattern mostly the doubles seem very forced in here


01:23:987 (191) - remove move spinner here Spinners cant be on a blue tic


01:23:987 (1) - you could add note here


I hope my mod was helpful good luck :) !
Aloda
Hihi, M4M from my queue.

General
Your difficulty spread is not good. Look at the Star Ratings - the gap between your Futsuu and Muzukashii is really small, then there's a huge jump up to Oni. I suggest remapping your Muzu, since as is, it's really just a Futsuu with some 1/4 in it. You could try including some of the 1/4 doubles that you used in your Oni so that it feels more like a bridge between your Futsuu and Oni rather than just a hard Futsuu. Remember that each diff should basically be a harder version of the previous one, rather than a completely new idea.

Add your guest mapper's name to the tags.



Uncheck Widescreen Support

Kotori's Kantan
00:17:646 (6) - k -> d? Sounds better to me

00:23:987 (2,3) - ctrl+g?

01:10:329 (1,2,3) - k d k -> d k d Matches the vocal pitch better

01:38:621 (9) - Remove

Futsuu
00:06:426 (11,12,13,14) -

01:18:865 (80) - Move to 01:19:109

Oni
It looks like you've updated this diff since I wrote this up, so disregard anything that's been changed already

You've mapped this diff in a very unusual way - a lot of even length patterns and a lot of them starting on a blue tick. My suggestions for this diff are mostly notes to add, move or remove to improve the flow.

00:10:938 (7) - Move to 00:11:060

00:18:743 (41) - Move to 00:18:865

00:30:938 (91,95,99,103) - Remove? I get that you're trying to map to the vocals but these triplets feel pretty awkward to me

Try removing 00:38:743 (122) and adding a d at 00:38:499 to fit in better with the similar patterns that follow this

00:42:646 (139) - Remove? This quad feels a little awkward to me

00:51:914 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - This feels really strange since it's one of the least intense parts of the song (since it's only vocals) yet you've put the most intense pattern of your map here. I suggest removing 00:51:914 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29)

00:52:768 - 01:23:987 - I suggest a full remap of this section, particularly focusing on adding more 1/1 breaks and reducing the number of awkward even patterns like the quads at 00:57:280 and 01:12:889 which feel very strange to play.

Good luck with your map.
Topic Starter
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IControl wrote:

Hi M4m from my Queue


Kotori's Kantan


00:27:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - d It doesn't have to be all finisher in this section agree, the most problem of this map, too much finisher


01:06:426 (6,7) - change to d. Doesn't sound that heavy and 01:08:377 (8) - would sound better agree


01:09:353 (9) - d ^ agree


01:10:329 (1,2,3) - change to k k D This sound a lot smoother imo and more accurate to the pitch of the song k k d was good but I think we dont need the big d here.


01:15:207 (8) - d agree


01:15:694 - add note? agree


01:16:670 - ---> 01:18:133 - This should be remapped to follow the vocals because they sound very strong here agree remapped.


01:38:621 (9) - remove There's nothing playing in the song here agree

This was good so i tired not to change it to much feel free to disagree


Futsuu


00:14:963 (11) - move to 00:14:719 - mapping to bass guitar and drums disagree, I think mapping to vocal here is better


01:06:182 - add note? [=agree, move the 01:05:938 (49) - to here now


00:16:670 - add note? disagree. that was same pattern like 00:13:743 (9,10,11,12) -

01:18:865 (80) - move to 01:19:109 - not move , but i still have a the note in 1:19


Muzukashii


00:13:499 (11) - remove Doesn't sound necessary disagree here.


00:15:451 (16) - ^ ...what?


00:16:182 - add k This note sounds important agree


00:23:255 (39) - remove agree


00:23:743 - add d I think we dont need any note in here. sry


00:27:890 - ---> 00:43:012 - this part should be remapped match the vocals because its sounds deep and heavy here. re mapped but not all


00:49:109 (8) - k sounds higher that is a quiet part , dont need so much sound change here I think.



01:01:304 (36) - this could be removed disagree


01:01:548 (36,37) - swap ctrl g to k d agree


01:03:743 (43) - remove no any remove, but i have remap about the sound


01:05:938 (49,50) - cltrl g 01:05:938 - no note now


01:06:182 (50) - remove follow the vocal, disagree


01:06:914 (51) - change to k 01:07:158 - add note still d .but i add a note still


01:08:377 (57) - D agree


01:08:621 (58,59) - remove same of the first part kiai, so no any change


01:15:085 - add k Also 00:59:353 (31,32) - change to ddd or kkk Sorry i forgot to mention it. for constancy agree


01:16:182 - add note break , so no any note


01:16:670 - ----> 01:23:987 - Should be remapped to the vocals remapped but not all .thats still a kiai part


01:25:694 (116) - remove I think it was no necessary


01:26:426 (117) - k sounds higher agree


01:27:890 (122) - k disagree


01:29:109 (125,126) - this could be kkk the end of the song and not kiai , so i dont want too much trible here


01:30:816 - add k mapping to piano d looks like better


Oni


00:30:938 (89) - move this too here 00:31:182 - then go to 1/3 beat snap divisor and move over these 2 00:31:060 (89,90) - to 1/3 tics should look like this


sry, i dont like 1/3 here ,so disagree

00:38:743 (120,121) - remove Doesnt sound nesscary no any remove but i change to a trible with all k

00:50:816 - you could add note here I think it is no nesscary

00:52:768 - ---> 01:23:987 - this should be remmaped to follow vocals and drum pattern mostly the doubles seem very forced in here
you are right but that was my style in this Oni, so i never think i will change it

01:23:987 (191) - remove move spinner here Spinners cant be on a blue tic oh...i update my map yesterday. the oni have change so much


01:23:987 (1) - you could add note here oh...i update my map yesterday. the oni have change so much



I hope my mod was helpful good luck :) !


thank you.... but i have update my oni yesterday and so many thing have changed, so i will not listen all suggest in you oni mod , sry bro
Topic Starter
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Aloda wrote:

Hihi, M4M from my queue.

General
Your difficulty spread is not good. Look at the Star Ratings - the gap between your Futsuu and Muzukashii is really small, then there's a huge jump up to Oni. I suggest remapping your Muzu, since as is, it's really just a Futsuu with some 1/4 in it. You could try including some of the 1/4 doubles that you used in your Oni so that it feels more like a bridge between your Futsuu and Oni rather than just a hard Futsuu. Remember that each diff should basically be a harder version of the previous one, rather than a completely new idea.
I have ask some ranker , the oni is no any relation(thats mean I can map a 5,6,7 stars and that not a problem
lots of people tell me I just need to balance the diff of kantan to muzu
Add your guest mapper's name to the tags. ok



Uncheck Widescreen Support Oh i never see that! thx


Kotori's Kantan
00:17:646 (6) - k -> d? Sounds better to me agree

00:23:987 (2,3) - ctrl+g? agree

01:10:329 (1,2,3) - k d k -> d k d Matches the vocal pitch better sry i stll think k k d is better

01:38:621 (9) - Remove agree


Futsuu
00:06:426 (11,12,13,14) -
good! never get that pattern before

01:18:865 (80) - Move to 01:19:109 agree

Oni
It looks like you've updated this diff since I wrote this up, so disregard anything that's been changed already

You've mapped this diff in a very unusual way - a lot of even length patterns and a lot of them starting on a blue tick. My suggestions for this diff are mostly notes to add, move or remove to improve the flow.

00:10:938 (7) - Move to 00:11:060

00:18:743 (41) - Move to 00:18:865

00:30:938 (91,95,99,103) - Remove? I get that you're trying to map to the vocals but these triplets feel pretty awkward to me

Try removing 00:38:743 (122) and adding a d at 00:38:499 to fit in better with the similar patterns that follow this

00:42:646 (139) - Remove? This quad feels a little awkward to me

00:51:914 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - This feels really strange since it's one of the least intense parts of the song (since it's only vocals) yet you've put the most intense pattern of your map here. I suggest removing 00:51:914 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29)

00:52:768 - 01:23:987 - I suggest a full remap of this section, particularly focusing on adding more 1/1 breaks and reducing the number of awkward even patterns like the quads at 00:57:280 and 01:12:889 which feel very strange to play.

Good luck with your map.


Thank you Aloda! so many using massage for me, and the oni have solve many bads i think, so the new oni must be better than before, still thank you
5urface
M4M from my queue

General

The BG image has a rather odd resolution at 1200x744. Maybe go with 1366x768 for optimal quality
The OD spread could be higher, OD 3 for Futsuu and 4 for Muzu are rather low

Kantan

00:00:085 (1) - This might work better as a K to contrast the following finishers which are lower in pitch
00:12:768 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - How about instead of these 2 patterns you go with a d on 00:12:768 and a dkdkd 1/1 pattern from 00:13:743 to 00:15:694. This would nicely underline the vocals and add in some variety
00:27:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These finishers would fit better if mapped as K D K D K D imo
00:35:207 (1,3) - To follow above suggestion these should be K. Otherwise there would be too many dons in a row
00:52:768 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would make these two pattern identical for consistency. They are the same pitch after all. Dkd or Kkd would both work (I'd prefer Dkd though)
01:22:036 (8) - k would follow the vocals better
01:24:963 (2,4) - k on these would make the section less monotone while still being easy to play
01:38:621 (9) - remove this one, the song ends at the previous note and on a Kantan there is no need to add unneccessary stuff. Alsothis would be more consistent with the other difficulties

Futsuu

00:28:377 (38) - d for consistency with 00:30:329 (42)
00:36:182 (53) - same

Muzukashii

Well modded already, I see no issues with it

Oni

I'm really unsure what to think about this diff to be honest. It is mapped in a rather different style than Futsuu and Muzu which both flow really well and as a result doesn't hold together as well as the lower difficulties. The used double patterns and 4 note patterns fit enough to not be modded out but still play a bit awkwardly especially if compared to how well the Muzu and Futsuu are mapped.
My suggestion is to get the opinions of more modders for this one and if they disagree with what I think then just disregard what I said ^^

Good luck with your map!
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