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Yooh - salvation [OsuMania]

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Seiryuu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 3:00:12 AM

Artist: Yooh
Title: salvation
Tags: voltage ignition 2
BPM: 192
Filesize: 8397kb
Play Time: 05:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. Normal - 4Key (5.01 stars, 4652 notes)
Download: Yooh - salvation
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Reuploaded from Abraxos' set.

Still can't think of a difficulty name.

Hitsounds are kind of done i think??????????
Abraxos
tong xing lian

general

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/salvation choose a word already

my set is deleted haHAAA

r u gon keep the hitsounds in the file or

lol

00:05:861 (5861|3,6017|3,6173|3) - 00:10:548 (10548|3,10704|3,10861|3) - 00:23:361 (23361|3,23517|3,23673|3) - 00:10:704 (10704|0,10704|3,10861|0,10861|3) - all intentional or
00:18:204 (18204|0,18361|0,18517|0) - ur mom
00:20:704 (20704|3,20704|1,20861|0,20861|2,21017|3,21017|1) - why no stack

00:25:782 - 00:27:032 - note for percussion

00:32:267 (32267|2,32345|1,32423|2) - i personally think this sounds like 1/6, theres way too little coverage for the amount of beats present here imo
the 1/6 should be the piano glissando you hear

no complaints for the streams aside from like
00:42:814 (42814|1,42892|2,42970|1,43048|2,43126|1,43204|2,43282|1) - 00:44:142 (44142|2,44220|1,44298|2,44376|1,44454|2,44532|1,44611|2) - 00:44:767 (44767|1,44845|2,44923|1,45001|2,45079|1,45157|2) - 00:50:939 (50939|2,51017|1,51095|2,51173|1,51251|2,51329|1,51407|2) - maybe you can chose to anchor things somewhere else other than the inner columns all the time here
01:01:642 (61642|2,61798|2,61954|2,62111|2,62267|2,62423|2,62579|2) - mom
yeah the long ass anchors mainly just fall on the 23 columns

01:32:030 (92030|1,92655|0) - synth changes at 01:32:733 -

01:33:671 - idk but i feel weird that theres doubles in this section - feels a bit too much to me
01:37:733 - maybe do the anchoring thing here like you did back at 01:45:233 -

02:09:764 - triple for bass beat
02:17:499 (137499|1,137499|2) - why double there no bass beat

02:38:202 (158202|0,158202|3) - dont think this deserves double, nothing really major there
02:31:796 (151796|2,151952|2,152108|2,152264|2,152421|2,152577|2,152733|2,152889|2) - there must be a better way imo

02:47:499 - note pls also consistency with 02:17:499 (137499|1,137499|2)

02:48:983 - starting from here the doubles come in on every 1/2 tick 4 times and stops 02:49:764 - once here and repeats
according to that logic then
02:51:639 (171639|2,171639|3) -02:59:139 (179139|0,179139|1) - shouldnt be doubles

02:52:342 (172342|3) - not sure if you want to ignore the bass beat here

02:55:702 - personally thing you should double for the synth, keeping it in the same columns as 02:55:546 (175546|2,175546|1) -

03:10:702 - note?

03:29:061 - looking at 03:26:561 - the former should also be a double
03:30:389 - the synths come in like 123 gap 123 gap 123 so id recommend something like *
img
like a build up of intensity of sorts ye

03:43:671 - the drums lose their 1/2 tick rhythm here so i dont think doubling every 1/2 tick really makes sense

03:47:967 (227967|2,227967|3) - single, see 03:27:967 (207967|1) -
03:50:389 - 03:50:389 - 04:10:467 - 04:30:467 - etc. etc. same as *

damn im going blind with the jumpstreams lo good luck fixing them moreim lazy; most of the stuff i mentioned kinda repeat themselves anywheys

essay
a word on the continous stream of notes:
given a song that is supposed to represent itself as a journey towards salvation/discovering redemption etc., it only follows that the theme of the song shows some kind of continous journey/fight/whatever you want to call it towards a particular goal, in this case being well look at the title
the song itself kinda shows that, since to the normal listener it presents itself with a feeling of non stop flow and such, though the 1/4 bg synth may fade in and out at points - but id argue, with the concept and theme of the song in mind, that the synth is still there, and that the best way to present the intent of the song and to do it justice is to portray it with continous streams

ok done good luck by
Topic Starter
Seiryuu

Abraxos wrote:

tong xing lian [wew lad]

general

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/salvation choose a word already [hey i was there a few days ago ]

my set is deleted haHAAA [ye ur map suk]

r u gon keep the hitsounds in the file or [i m keeping, hitsounding when i'm actually not lazy LMAO]

lol

00:05:861 (5861|3,6017|3,6173|3) - 00:10:548 (10548|3,10704|3,10861|3) - 00:23:361 (23361|3,23517|3,23673|3) - 00:10:704 (10704|0,10704|3,10861|0,10861|3) - all intentional or
00:18:204 (18204|0,18361|0,18517|0) - ur mom
00:20:704 (20704|3,20704|1,20861|0,20861|2,21017|3,21017|1) - why no stack [was just trying to piece the music together with the jumps, but since they don't affect playability i'm keeping them]

00:25:782 - 00:27:032 - note for percussion [just realised i missed a fuck ton of those at the start, but those sounds that you highlighted are barely audible and not really worth picking out so ye]

00:32:267 (32267|2,32345|1,32423|2) - i personally think this sounds like 1/6, theres way too little coverage for the amount of beats present here imo
the 1/6 should be the piano glissando you hear [according to pp guy it's 1/6, but it plays so much better in 1/4 snap so i'm gonna reason with those BNs and QATs if it ever goes on ranked]

no complaints for the streams aside from like
00:42:814 (42814|1,42892|2,42970|1,43048|2,43126|1,43204|2,43282|1) - 00:44:142 (44142|2,44220|1,44298|2,44376|1,44454|2,44532|1,44611|2) - 00:44:767 (44767|1,44845|2,44923|1,45001|2,45079|1,45157|2) - 00:50:939 (50939|2,51017|1,51095|2,51173|1,51251|2,51329|1,51407|2) - maybe you can chose to anchor things somewhere else other than the inner columns all the time here
01:01:642 (61642|2,61798|2,61954|2,62111|2,62267|2,62423|2,62579|2) - mom
yeah the long ass anchors mainly just fall on the 23 columns [fuk u im keeping them, to explain: it's actually almost unnoticeable since the bpm pretty low, but the main thing is that my try at reworking the patterns actually made it worse fucc me]

01:32:030 (92030|1,92655|0) - synth changes at 01:32:733 - [use ur fucking 25% and 50%]

01:33:671 - idk but i feel weird that theres doubles in this section - feels a bit too much to me [think it emphasises the light sound more imo, gonna keep it until someone says otherwise]
01:37:733 - maybe do the anchoring thing here like you did back at 01:45:233 - [made someanchor ye]

02:09:764 - triple for bass beat [fucc me i missed that]
02:17:499 (137499|1,137499|2) - why double there no bass beat [haha u got me]

02:38:202 (158202|0,158202|3) - dont think this deserves double, nothing really major there [thought i heard a sound there mbmb]
02:31:796 (151796|2,151952|2,152108|2,152264|2,152421|2,152577|2,152733|2,152889|2) - there must be a better way imo [OOPS LMAO, keeping the 23 trill after that though]

02:47:499 - note pls also consistency with 02:17:499 (137499|1,137499|2) [ok b0ss]

02:48:983 - starting from here the doubles come in on every 1/2 tick 4 times and stops 02:49:764 - once here and repeats
according to that logic then
02:51:639 (171639|2,171639|3) -02:59:139 (179139|0,179139|1) - shouldnt be doubles [excuse me biTCH i'm charting to the M U S I C]

02:52:342 (172342|3) - not sure if you want to ignore the bass beat here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

02:55:702 - personally thing you should double for the synth, keeping it in the same columns as 02:55:546 (175546|2,175546|1) - [r u OKKKKK???]

03:10:702 - note? [fucK my dick off]

03:29:061 - looking at 03:26:561 - the former should also be a double [mb i'm gonna change all that shit now]
03:30:389 - the synths come in like 123 gap 123 gap 123 so id recommend something like * [naw m8 i think my current pattern is better]
img
like a build up of intensity of sorts ye

03:43:671 - the drums lose their 1/2 tick rhythm here so i dont think doubling every 1/2 tick really makes sense [o shit u rite]

03:47:967 (227967|2,227967|3) - single, see 03:27:967 (207967|1) -
03:50:389 - 03:50:389 - 04:10:467 - 04:30:467 - etc. etc. same as * [fuc ya it's a single]

damn im going blind with the jumpstreams lo good luck fixing them moreim lazy; most of the stuff i mentioned kinda repeat themselves anywheys
[man andy how long do you have to look at the JS to find out what i'm actually charting it to
03:50:780 (230780|0,230780|2,230858|1,230936|2,230936|3,231014|1,231014|0,231092|2,231171|0,231171|3) - if you're confused about this, each double is the start of the sound except for 03:50:936 (230936|3,230936|2,231014|1,231014|0) - because 4k doesn't give you a lot of room to chart all the sounds]

essay
a word on the continous stream of notes:
given a song that is supposed to represent itself as a journey towards salvation/discovering redemption etc., it only follows that the theme of the song shows some kind of continous journey/fight/whatever you want to call it towards a particular goal, in this case being well look at the title
the song itself kinda shows that, since to the normal listener it presents itself with a feeling of non stop flow and such, though the 1/4 bg synth may fade in and out at points - but id argue, with the concept and theme of the song in mind, that the synth is still there, and that the best way to present the intent of the song and to do it justice is to portray it with continous streams

ok done good luck by
thanks for mod dud
Abraxos
u r my lucky star aLSO I still get a profit of 1 kds aNYQyqay lhahahahahaha
Topic Starter
Seiryuu
i love waiting for mods
Abraxos

[-Seiryuu-] wrote:

i love waiting for mods
Same
Arzenvald
aye sei

[Salivation]
move the 1st red line / offset to 00:02:423 - , the first metronome reset rest in there
then 01:12:421 - using 6/4 or 3/4 is ok, but 6/4 is more accurate within the downbeats i think

01:29:243 (89243|2) - remove? idk blame my cheap earphone, but it seems starts at 01:29:374 (89374|1) - , even it doesn't really audible to be layered
01:29:530 (89530|1) - stop at 01:30:103 -
01:30:129 (90129|0) - starts at 01:30:103 -
01:30:676 (90676|2) - starts at 01:30:754 -
01:31:405 (91405|3) - stops at 01:32:056 -
01:32:004 (92004|1) - starts at 01:32:056 -
01:32:629 (92629|0) - starts at 01:32:707 - (readjust the LN end after moving stuff) they are 1/12

00:52:423 (52423|2) - this section, i think its ok to layer 00:53:048 (53048|1,53282|1,53517|1) - with doubles, you know the 3/4 is playing, it would be gud for variation

02:50:702 (170702|3) - remove pls
02:51:639 (171639|2) - ^
02:58:202 (178202|0) -
02:59:139 (179139|0) -
unless intended

03:18:671 (198671|3) - add red line, 4/4, then 03:23:046 (203046|1) - remove the red line
03:23:671 (203671|3) - change to green line since the metronome reset been fixed by red line above

ok that's all
Topic Starter
Seiryuu

Arzenvald wrote:

aye sei

[Salivation]
move the 1st red line / offset to 00:02:423 - , the first metronome reset rest in there [Fixed]
then 01:12:421 - using 6/4 or 3/4 is ok, but 6/4 is more accurate within the downbeats i think [Personally think that 3/4 is good enough]

01:29:243 (89243|2) - remove? idk blame my cheap earphone, but it seems starts at 01:29:374 (89374|1) - , even it doesn't really audible to be layered [I can hear it perfectly fine D:]
01:29:530 (89530|1) - stop at 01:30:103 -
01:30:129 (90129|0) - starts at 01:30:103 -
01:30:676 (90676|2) - starts at 01:30:754 -
01:31:405 (91405|3) - stops at 01:32:056 -
01:32:004 (92004|1) - starts at 01:32:056 -
01:32:629 (92629|0) - starts at 01:32:707 - (readjust the LN end after moving stuff) they are 1/12 [All fixed]

00:52:423 (52423|2) - this section, i think its ok to layer 00:53:048 (53048|1,53282|1,53517|1) - with doubles, you know the 3/4 is playing, it would be gud for variation [I'd rather not since I prefer how it plays out right now, sorry ): ]

02:50:702 (170702|3) - remove pls
02:51:639 (171639|2) - ^
02:58:202 (178202|0) -
02:59:139 (179139|0) -
unless intended [This section is not layered to beats, only sound]

03:18:671 (198671|3) - add red line, 4/4, then 03:23:046 (203046|1) - remove the red line
03:23:671 (203671|3) - change to green line since the metronome reset been fixed by red line above [OK all done!]

ok that's all
Thanks for mod!
Arzenvald
hail 2 kudosus
Cokii-
irc
20:11 Cokiiplay: 00:32:110 (32110|0,32110|3) - this seems quite weird imo consider using a LN here
20:12 [-Seiryuu-]: hmmm
20:12 [-Seiryuu-]: maybe i'll just extend the 1/4s
20:12 [-Seiryuu-]: it's supposed to be 1/6 but 1/4 fits better imop
20:12 Cokiiplay: ok
20:12 [-Seiryuu-]: yE
20:15 Cokiiplay: 00:32:657 (32657|3) - this seems to be a ghost note but i guess you made it a 1/4 stream for playablity?
20:15 [-Seiryuu-]: there are a lot of ghost notes but ye playability and how it flows
20:15 Cokiiplay: yeah ok
20:16 [-Seiryuu-]: should be fine since fragment of tears was ranked with a lot of ghosts too :p
20:16 Cokiiplay: xd
20:16 Cokiiplay: and it's more fitting for a stamina map imo
20:17 [-Seiryuu-]: u w u
20:19 Cokiiplay: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8344117
20:19 Cokiiplay: concisder repatterning this
20:19 [-Seiryuu-]: lemme check hold up
20:19 [-Seiryuu-]: o ya good catch
20:21 Cokiiplay: 01:09:923 (69923|0,69923|1,70001|3,70001|2) - cande the first notes into a hand and the second into a single for concistency
20:21 [-Seiryuu-]: hmm
20:21 Cokiiplay: change*
20:22 [-Seiryuu-]: plays better with 2 notes imo
20:22 Cokiiplay: oh ok
20:22 [-Seiryuu-]: because this is a left hand biased jumptrill
20:22 [-Seiryuu-]: hmm
20:22 [-Seiryuu-]: maybe i'll make it [14][23][14][23] instead
20:23 Cokiiplay: yeah most people are righthanded :/
20:23 [-Seiryuu-]: i'll think about it later
20:23 Cokiiplay: ok
20:24 [-Seiryuu-]: ya jumptrill kind of fits better so i guess i'll keep it
20:24 [-Seiryuu-]: aaaaa
20:25 Cokiiplay: 02:06:014 (126014|3) - add a note
20:26 Cokiiplay: 2 notes*
20:26 [-Seiryuu-]: was going for a effect like 02:04:139 (124139|3,124296|0,124296|2,124296|3) -
20:26 [-Seiryuu-]: intended
20:27 Cokiiplay: oh i thought it was supposed to be like the later sections
20:27 [-Seiryuu-]: oh fucc i forgot to explain my layering for this section
20:27 Cokiiplay: xd
20:27 [-Seiryuu-]: beat by itself = 1 note
20:27 [-Seiryuu-]: sound = 2 notes
20:27 [-Seiryuu-]: beat + sound = 3 notes
20:27 [-Seiryuu-]: ye
20:28 [-Seiryuu-]: then clap is usually [14]
20:28 Cokiiplay: oh
20:28 [-Seiryuu-]: just for this section
20:29 Cokiiplay: sound would be any sound?
20:29 [-Seiryuu-]: main sound ye
20:30 Cokiiplay: 02:04:296 (124296|2,124296|0,124296|3) - and 02:05:233 (125233|0,125233|3) - almost the same
20:30 [-Seiryuu-]: owo fucc
20:30 [-Seiryuu-]: oh wait
20:30 [-Seiryuu-]: that's because clap
20:30 [-Seiryuu-]: lmao
20:31 [-Seiryuu-]: 02:10:858 (130858|2,130858|1,130858|0) - this part here is 3 notes because it fits better
20:31 Cokiiplay: yeah i was going to point hat out xd
20:31 Cokiiplay: that*
20:31 [-Seiryuu-]: xd
20:33 [-Seiryuu-]: brb toilet
20:33 Cokiiplay: 02:25:077 (145077|3,145077|0) - this is weird it think the jump should be on the 3rd beat
20:33 [-Seiryuu-]: wh
20:34 Cokiiplay: the drum sound is on the 3rd beat
20:34 [-Seiryuu-]: this isn't mapped to beats
20:34 Cokiiplay: oh ok
20:35 [-Seiryuu-]: wwwwwwww
20:35 Cokiiplay: oh yeah it's not as weird like that xd
20:36 [-Seiryuu-]: only some portions are charted to beats uwu
20:36 [-Seiryuu-]: so ya brb toilet
20:36 [-Seiryuu-]: just keep sending pms i'll read them when i get back
20:36 Cokiiplay: k
20:37 Cokiiplay: 02:51:639 (171639|2,171639|3) - delete a note
20:39 Cokiiplay: 02:55:546 (175546|2,175546|1,175702|3) - you could use a jack here
20:40 Cokiiplay: 02:57:264 (177264|2) - add a note
20:42 [-Seiryuu-]: ok im back sorry for the wait
20:42 Cokiiplay: np :D
20:42 [-Seiryuu-]: 02:51:639 (171639|2,171639|3) - this is 2 notes for sound owo
20:43 [-Seiryuu-]: didn't understand the second point could you take a screenshot of what you meant?
20:43 Cokiiplay: sure
20:43 Cokiiplay: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8344320
20:43 [-Seiryuu-]: 02:57:264 (177264|2) - there's no sound here so 1 note, actually used 2 notes before until people started pointing it out
20:43 Cokiiplay: like this since it has the same sound
20:44 [-Seiryuu-]: oh you mean anchor
20:44 [-Seiryuu-]: hmm alright ye that's fine
20:45 Cokiiplay: and you could place this in the same column as well but idk 02:56:014 (176014|1) -
20:46 [-Seiryuu-]: don't think it'll make much of a difference
20:46 [-Seiryuu-]: it'l actually make a 3 note anchor here 02:56:171 (176171|2,176327|2) -
20:46 Cokiiplay: ok
20:48 Cokiiplay: i think i don't understand the layering of the last kiai xd
20:49 [-Seiryuu-]: all 2 notes are charted to sound
20:49 [-Seiryuu-]: except sections like
20:49 [-Seiryuu-]: 03:42:421 (222421|0,222421|1,222499|2,222577|3,222577|0,222655|1,222733|3,222733|2,222811|0,222889|1,222889|3,222967|2,223046|1,223046|0,223124|3,223202|1,223202|2,223280|0,223358|2,223358|3,223436|1,223514|2,223514|0,223592|3,223671|1,223671|0) -
20:49 [-Seiryuu-]: aa if it's too difficult to understand you can skip it if you want
20:50 Cokiiplay: i feel like i'm just being retarded rn lel
20:50 [-Seiryuu-]: its okay my dude
20:50 Cokiiplay: 03:34:921 (214921|1,214921|0) - you could add a note here
20:51 [-Seiryuu-]: put as double so it won't affect the flow of the stream
20:51 Cokiiplay: ok
20:52 [-Seiryuu-]: i use that for most parts of this section too
20:52 [-Seiryuu-]: should be okay to cover it up with hitsounds
20:52 Cokiiplay: xd
20:53 Cokiiplay: tbh alot of people play without hitsounds
20:53 [-Seiryuu-]: ya
20:53 [-Seiryuu-]: but it's all for the f l o w
20:53 [-Seiryuu-]: i dont use hitsounds personally too
20:54 [-Seiryuu-]: god damn i feel like a dick rejecting everything aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:54 Cokiiplay: but uncomfortable maps are fun :^)
20:54 [-Seiryuu-]: i'm sorry ):
20:54 Cokiiplay: lol
20:55 [-Seiryuu-]: uncomfy p much doesn't fit here, maybe with goreshit and other artists
20:55 Cokiiplay: yeah true
20:56 Cokiiplay: 04:02:421 (242421|1,242421|0) - you could add a note here but that would be quite uncomfortable
20:56 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah same thing as before
20:59 Cokiiplay: ok i think i'm done <.< sry for the short mod
20:59 [-Seiryuu-]: it's fine
20:59 [-Seiryuu-]: it's hard to pick out stuff from a full stream chart
20:59 [-Seiryuu-]: thanks for the mod!
21:00 Cokiiplay: yeah true :D np
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