Hanatan - Attakain Dakara [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Yumeno Himiko

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Yumeno Himiko 2016-09-10T11:42:23+00:00

gratz! nice ctb diffs~

Stjpa

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Stjpa 2016-09-10T11:54:00+00:00

lLinutionHD wrote:

I'd definitely use it but it looks like there's a missing spacebar after "by" :v

lLinutionHD

lLinutionHD 2016-09-10T12:30:03+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
lLinutionHD wrote:
I'd definitely use it but it looks like there's a missing spacebar after "by" :v

I will try to do good waiting......

lLinutionHD

lLinutionHD 2016-09-10T12:37:19+00:00

now what you think..........

Enon

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Enon 2016-09-10T15:30:45+00:00

congratulations! great map

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-09-10T16:41:50+00:00

any reason you omit the ♪ at the end of the unicode title?

probably this? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26120993

Sieg

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Sieg 2016-09-10T16:43:50+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
any reason you omit the ♪ at the end of the unicode title?

p/5460823

MBomb

MBomb 2016-09-10T16:45:14+00:00

Some concerns with the CtB difficulties.

[Platter]

00:40:140 (2) - Flow into this slider is very strange because a dash is expected from previous movements (And from the strength of this note in general), and then dashing to this will result in an overdash a lot of the time, which feels pretty unfair to the player.
00:42:963 (2) - Because of the way this slider curves, it can end up feeling pretty forced against the wall flow wise, even though it's not really. I feel like it would be more comfortable, especially to a platter player, if this was moved a bit further from the wall, like x:36, considering even I dashed into the wall on this slider once or twice.
01:07:846 (3,4,5,1) - Movement here is a massive flowbreak due to the dash to 3, and then stopping dashing for 4 is pretty sudden, and overdashing here is pretty easy with current flow. Increasing 3,4 to make the decrease in distance more of a curve is recommended.

Additional modding:

01:15:257 (2) - I know this is the last note, so it's not really a big issue, but I really think reducing this to like x:472 is a lot nicer.

Honestly I'm really happy with this difficulty other than these concerns, I just don't want these issues to ruin the otherwise perfect difficulty.

[Rain]

00:06:963 (4,5,1) - From the HDash, the equal distancing between 4,5,1 leads to a pretty awkward quick slowdown, which is pretty bad for flow. I think a kind of curve distancing here would be nicer. Try x:56 on 5.
00:10:581 (3,4) - This HDash is pretty strong compared to the ones around it (00:11:287 (8,1) - Except this one, but that's stronger note), so it ends up feeling strange with the sections around it, because the speed up is a lot more intense. Reducing this HDash strength a bit would be a lot better.

Additional modding:

00:05:728 (1) - Whilst you use these a lot later on, which is fine, this is the only slider in the intro where it's a vertical slider after a HDash, which ends up with it feeling slightly strange with the rest of the map. Try curving it slightly, for more comfortable play, and to feel more consistent?
00:09:434 (5,6,7) - Kinda similar to what I mentioned in the main issues, except this one isn't as bad, however, I still think it could be nice to make it more of a curve too.
00:38:198 (1) - Increasing HDash strength to this and curving it slightly actually makes the flow feel a lot better to me, and would also make a nicer flow to the next note as currently, it's a sudden direction change, but this could ease the player into the direction change.

This difficulty's really good too, I just think these are some quick things that should probably be fixed.

Sorry for requesting DQ, I just feel as though these difficulties could be improved in this way to make them the best they can be. Any questions then pm me like always.

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-09-10T16:54:52+00:00

Sieg wrote:
IamKwaN wrote:
any reason you omit the ♪ at the end of the unicode title?
p/5460823

thank you

vipto

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vipto 2016-09-10T20:08:40+00:00

weeb

Stjpa

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Stjpa 2016-09-10T23:01:15+00:00

@Mbomb: I really don't mind post-qualification mods, I even appreciate them, but coming with a mod after JBH and myself asked for a mod like thousand times you suddenly appear now. That's a quite questionable move.
However, Piku won't be there until sunday evening or even monday, so if JBH doesn't want to fix anything please keep it qualified.

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2016-09-10T23:31:18+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
However, Piku won't be there until sunday evening or even monday, so if JBH doesn't want to fix anything please keep it qualified.

You could use this even if he wasn't actually gone. It's not a valid reason to keep something qualified in the slightest. I agree with some (not all) of the points MBomb made, and while I'm not sure if they 100% deserve a DQ, it's recommended to improve the quality of the map of course. Don't blame him for utilizing the properties of the qualified section.

Also fuck's sake don't silence me I'm being civil this time, thanks.

Stjpa

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Stjpa 2016-09-10T23:43:55+00:00

Sure some things may be valid, but since he can't fix things anyway it's not such a bad idea to keep it qualified to get more attention. And like I said, I don't mind post-q mods, except the modder waited on purpose. :p

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2016-09-10T23:50:05+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
Sure some things may be valid, but since he can't fix things anyway it's not such a bad idea to keep it qualified to get more attention. And like I said, I don't mind post-q mods, except the modder waited on purpose. :p

yeah mbomb is a lazy cuck and it's common in ctb for the saying "the best way to get an mbomb mod is to get your map qualified" :V

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2016-09-11T00:04:45+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Some concerns with the CtB difficulties.

[Platter]

00:40:140 (2) - Flow into this slider is very strange because a dash is expected from previous movements (And from the strength of this note in general), and then dashing to this will result in an overdash a lot of the time, which feels pretty unfair to the player. I suppose this probably should be a dash considering 00:41:551 (2,3) - is also a dash for an equivalent strength vocal. It's certainly stronger than something like 00:44:904 (5,1)
00:42:963 (2) - Because of the way this slider curves, it can end up feeling pretty forced against the wall flow wise, even though it's not really. I feel like it would be more comfortable, especially to a platter player, if this was moved a bit further from the wall, like x:36, considering even I dashed into the wall on this slider once or twice. I don't really feel this is a problem, no point of the slider is closer than 12px from the border and the dash strength isn't especially strong, though if I fix the above I guess I could make more space for this just as a precaution
01:07:846 (3,4,5,1) - Movement here is a massive flowbreak due to the dash to 3, and then stopping dashing for 4 is pretty sudden, and overdashing here is pretty easy with current flow. Increasing 3,4 to make the decrease in distance more of a curve is recommended. This isn't a flowbreak at all for me, you just release dash after catching (3) and continue to stream left, there's no need to slowdown. At best I would consider changing this for aesthetic purposes, since it's not a perfect straight line

Additional modding:

01:15:257 (2) - I know this is the last note, so it's not really a big issue, but I really think reducing this to like x:472 is a lot nicer. The change in spacing / hyper strength feels pretty minimal for me, I don't see much difference either way

Honestly I'm really happy with this difficulty other than these concerns, I just don't want these issues to ruin the otherwise perfect difficulty.

Sorry for requesting DQ, I just feel as though these difficulties could be improved in this way to make them the best they can be. Any questions then pm me like always. Shame you didn't get a chance to look at it before it was qualified but these things happen. Appreciate your input as always /o/

I guess we should probably DQ so I can fix that jump at the very least. It's certainly not unrankable but it is inconsistent and I'd rather it wasn't. Apologies guys.

Edit: Played around with some stuff, fixed all roughly according to what I mentioned above.

Platter

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Battle

2,862 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-09-11T06:10:02+00:00

o ur gona get this rankd (technically requal) soon gjgjgj

P i k u

189 posts

Joined June 2013

P i k u 2016-09-11T12:07:10+00:00

Hello, sorry for not being available this weekend orz. I'll apply MBomb's mod later this day.

P l a c e h o l d e r

oops I created a new reply

Last edited by P i k u 2016-09-11T13:52:56+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-11T13:36:17+00:00

Updated, there were also minor changes in the last diff;
• 00:56:552 (1) - got ctrl + g'd
• 01:14:552 (1,1) - circle is now in the middle instead of slidertail

P i k u

189 posts

Joined June 2013

P i k u 2016-09-11T13:51:54+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Some concerns with the CtB difficulties.

[Rain]

00:06:963 (4,5,1) - From the HDash, the equal distancing between 4,5,1 leads to a pretty awkward quick slowdown, which is pretty bad for flow. I think a kind of curve distancing here would be nicer. Try x:56 on 5. | Moved to x:56
00:10:581 (3,4) - This HDash is pretty strong compared to the ones around it (00:11:287 (8,1) - Except this one, but that's stronger note), so it ends up feeling strange with the sections around it, because the speed up is a lot more intense. Reducing this HDash strength a bit would be a lot better. | Reduced strength

Additional modding:

00:05:728 (1) - Whilst you use these a lot later on, which is fine, this is the only slider in the intro where it's a vertical slider after a HDash, which ends up with it feeling slightly strange with the rest of the map. Try curving it slightly, for more comfortable play, and to feel more consistent? | Sure thing
00:09:434 (5,6,7) - Kinda similar to what I mentioned in the main issues, except this one isn't as bad, however, I still think it could be nice to make it more of a curve too. | Small curve now
00:38:198 (1) - Increasing HDash strength to this and curving it slightly actually makes the flow feel a lot better to me, and would also make a nicer flow to the next note as currently, it's a sudden direction change, but this could ease the player into the direction change. | Not exactly sure how to change it, but it's stronger and a bit curved now

This difficulty's really good too, I just think these are some quick things that should probably be fixed.

Sorry for requesting DQ, I just feel as though these difficulties could be improved in this way to make them the best they can be. Any questions then pm me like always.

Thank you!

Update

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lLinutionHD

lLinutionHD 2016-09-11T15:58:33+00:00

If you want more banner for their levels somo call Linution
Gladly helped them

Pati

54 posts

Joined June 2013

Pati 2016-09-11T16:13:54+00:00

some little changes on my own diff

pti

00:27:610 (3,4) - moved 3 slightly to right and fixed blanking of 4 with 2
00:43:492 (5,6) - moved these slightly to above
00:56:552 (1) - changed rotation to left
01:15:257 (1) - its right on the middle now

thats all

MBomb

MBomb 2016-09-11T16:28:12+00:00

very quick points, pretty nazi but i just want stuff to feel smoother

[Platter]

00:41:728 (3) - x:128 on this feels more comfortable, overdashing this is very possible as it is right now.

[Rain]

01:02:375 (8,9,1) - I feel as though moving this section to x:240 feels nicer for flow.

Call me back.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-09-11T16:41:12+00:00

add "piku" to tags?

P i k u

189 posts

Joined June 2013

P i k u 2016-09-11T16:55:17+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
very quick points, pretty nazi but i just want stuff to feel smoother

[Rain]

01:02:375 (8,9,1) - I feel as though moving this section to x:240 feels nicer for flow. | Agreed

Call me back.

yaa

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-09-11T16:59:56+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
very quick points, pretty nazi but i just want stuff to feel smoother

[Platter]

00:41:728 (3) - x:128 on this feels more comfortable, overdashing this is very possible as it is right now. Can't say I agree, the vocal isn't that strong here so increasing the spacing plays more awkwardly, especially to the next hyperdash. Given (3) is horizontal with natural flow, I don't see how overdashing is an issue here unless you literally hold dash all the way to the object, which is in opposition to the flow I've been using all throughout the map

Call me back.

No change for me, but thanks for the recheck.

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-11T17:03:02+00:00

Updated + added "piku" to tags

MBomb

MBomb 2016-09-11T17:11:53+00:00

insert weeb lyrics here i can't type because i'm not a weeb

Lasse

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