где ранк?
sheela wrote:
Please correct the metadata in your hardest difficulty, and call me back again!
Squichu wrote:
Ahoi, as requested. :3
SimpleNamki's Advanced
- 01:11:926 (5) - missing NC :b - yes, fixed
- 01:48:783 (2,3,4) - can you move (4) further from (2), so the path players have to follow is more obvious? (sorry, beautiful triangle. :C) Leave as is (:
Challenging
- 00:13:641 - hmh, I kinda like the 'break' here, but at the same time it feels so empty. (And might cause some players to panic, because omg why are there no objects, but its not a break aah.) Maybe you could put something very simplified here, considering all other diffs have this mapped? http://puu.sh/qr5RV.jpg or http://puu.sh/qr5US.jpg or anything Yes, I probably agree. It's not very clear, and pause your second example I have it corrected
- 00:46:641 (1,2,3,4) - feels off that you emphasize the beats on (3,4) but ignore the ones between (1,2). Consider changing this up to emphaisze all of them better - eg http://puu.sh/qr64e.jpg ?
In case you change this, how about adding a reverse to 00:48:355 (1) - to replace 00:49:212 (2) - ? After this "complicated" 1/4 rhythm it might be hard for some players to get back to the standard patterns and if you map this with a reverse instead of a circle it gets a lot easier. 00:46:212 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - This part full remap. Do not ignore 1/4 rhythm, better understood.- 01:02:498 (3,1) - leaving 01:03:141 - blank feels off, since it's just as strong as previous sounds and then the sound in (1)'s head is slightly weaker.. since the same stong sound repeats at 01:03:569 - I suggest to move (1) by 1/2, so it looks like http://puu.sh/qr6v8.jpg ; matches the melody better, imo.
same for 01:05:926 (3,1) - 01:02:498 (3,1) - and 01:05:926 (3,1) - (1) move on 1/4 red line (this rly nice idea)Nattu's diff(?)
- 00:34:212 (6) - another missing NC? :b yes
01:32:498 (6) - , too yyyyyyyyyes- 00:34:426 (1) - consider shortening this spinner by 1/2, please, it just matches better with the overall difficulty to have at least 1 beat recovery time, I think. Otherwise this feels way to hectic.
same for 01:32:712 (1) - reduce spinners before 1/1- 01:00:784 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - (5) and (8) feel overmapped, cause there are no important sounds there that need to be clickable. I think you could emphaisze the single beats better by deleting (5,8) and increasing spacing btween the other objects. ok , (5,8) delete 01:00:784 (4,5,6,7) - only 1/2 circle
Poke me after all's been replied to!
- 00:33:355 (5,6) - compared to all other objects these two are a little too close, imo. Because of slider leniency you don't have to move at all for 2 beats, so maybe you could place (6) somewhere else? (Just stack below (4)?) stack below and move (7)
- 01:44:498 (1,1) - as in Bakari's diff? Apologies for being lazy >< Nattu have done before Bakari \:D/
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Squichu wrote:
Perfect. :3
Sieg wrote:
воу воу воу
Namki wrote:
ура, поздравляю!
Natteke wrote:
ಠ_ಠ
I sincerely hope that this made the ideas behind the certain decisions we've made more understandable to you. Let us know if you disagree with something or/and willing to make a clarification. For now on we will wait for Nattu and Namki to respond and see if they as the guest mappers agree with you.Shmiklak wrote:
I really love the song but some moments need discusing.General
- because using of much kiai times is unrankable/list] It indeed, is. Yet, I doubt that actually emphasising all choruses can be classified as "overusing"
Namki's Advanced
- Changing DS in Easy/Normal/Advanced diffs is not allowing. Point an exact rule disallowing that, please. These are literally x0.06, which is way below the x0,5 you've mentioned.
- Simple diff doesn't use at least 1/2 rythms, but your Advanced uses 1/4 what breaks rythm gap between diffs. I suggest replace these 00:47:069 (3,4,5) - 1/4 repeat sliders by just 1/2 sliders. Yet, that work's with the spread. Advanced is not a Normal, it introduces 1/4, and then Challenging utilizes them in a more detailed way. I personally see the whole spread as E/N+/H+/I/X. which works in a way it is designed to. Moreover, I was the one who discussed the spread with the mapper and assured them it was fine
Challenging
- Why are you making low beats farther then strong beats? 00:36:783 (4,5) - Maybe it's not unrankable, but if we want to keep quality of map it should be fixed. Also it's only one circles pattern which uses any DS. All other patterns use one DS, without any changes. This is done for the vocals, that are pretty intense here, spacing changes are consistent and they, in fact, ARE present throughout the difficulty. If we are talking about jumps, patterns like 01:17:926 (4,5) - exist, which invalidates your point about this pattern being the only one that is not DS'd. As for the patterns like 00:39:783 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - they use something like x1,4, hence 00:36:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - x1.6 in the introductional pattern of the first kiai does not hurt much, itrather warns players about the upcoming changes in the DS and adapts them to it while also stressing the vocals.
Bakari's Extreme
- That blanket 00:13:426 (6,2) - needs big polishing. Indeed, that is true.
- Why did you NC this 00:34:426 - ? The first one is for the drum, the other is for the vocals, also for the break-beat that happens here.
Anyway map is really nice, and hope you understand I did this just for help you make quality a bit better Good luick on reranking, if it will get DQ o3oNattu's RIZHAYA DEVCHEENKA
- I don't see reasons for these 1/4 triplets: 00:16:855 (1,2,3) - 00:18:569 (1,2,3) - 00:20:283 (1,2,3) - etc. Here's nothing on 1/4 beat what should be distinguished by circle. No sound, no vocal, nothing. As I told at my first mod this diff really seems overmapped, but tbh it's better now, but still this moment makes me scare. From a quick check I'd rather tell that they are mapped to the fading synth, that does make sense, even though it might subjectivelty feel like an overkill for the hardest difficulty. I am not the creator, so I can't tell for sure, but I think I got their idea quite alright.
You mean the part at 01:01:641 - that is meant to be support the chorus-based kiais? Yeah, that might feel over the edge. I'll notify QATs as I am not so sure about that myself now.Shmiklak wrote:
About Kiai: Why are you calling it chorus? If it's chorus let's distinguish it by kiai at start of map too.