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Cascada - Why You Had To Leave (Nightcore Mix)

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VINXIS
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00:28:480 (1,2,1,2) - cuz ur lookgin at it weirdli.. wot te fuk 00:26:918 (1,2,1,2) -
01:16:521 (7) - ncing this 1 is a triggr.


top dif
00:23:403 (7) - but ur moving left anywy wgh
00:25:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - shitmapping 2 shit song Cx
01:15:350 (1,2,3,4,5) - thts the start this is nwo.
01:27:848 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - shitmapping 2 shit song Cx
01:38:784 (1) - new day new pattrn Xd

K
Asphyxia

Xilver wrote:

[Asphyxia's Hard]

im scared

00:04:460 (4,5,6,4,5) - imo you should change this rhythm to make the tall white tick clickable I stated in my previous post that even though these kind of suggestions are good, that's not what I wanted to do with my difficulty. My goal was to follow vocals strictly, without missing a clap in-between
00:55:040 (1) - idk thought this would be nicer since it fits the curve of 10 better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5439050 I rotated the slider a bit, should be fine now
01:01:875 (2) - should ctrlg this imo, this type of movement is consistent with all your other ones but the spacing is too big compared to all the others Just a slider, spacing should be easy to hit but fixed regardless
01:22:185 (7,8,9) - thought this rhythm would be better, it'd make the tall white tick clickable too http://puu.sh/pAqp9/92fbf1cfd2.jpg ^
01:37:417 (4) - add note? Do you mean the spot you linked or the white tick next to it? Since I'd understand the white tick note, but the red one is just meh... will see
01:51:283 (1,2) - why not do this like u did before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5439067 it's called variation but sure fixed
02:03:781 (1,2) - ^especially since u did this too on the second part

honestly i thought i would have nothing to say about this diff so take my mod with a grain of salt
Thank you Xilver! http://puu.sh/pACTq/eb3d91de6a.txt
strickluke
nightcore is trash
Topic Starter
VINXIS
no >: /
Senko-san
!!
allein
here we go nc Lol
Kaifin
small self modding changes before bn check :)

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Topic Starter
VINXIS
ok update d
hi-mei
can i make a gd
Zekeyache
^ No

[General]
  1. Any reason to use that negative offset? You can just set it as 358 or 1921 :/


[Normal]
  1. 00:15:591 (3,4) - This blanket can be improved
  2. 01:35:660 (1) - Here the vocals are more dominant since the music's volume went down. So I highly suggest a 3/2 slider cuz right now feels awkward to follow imo. Also, a 1/1 slider afterwards to follow the music would be nice too. https://puu.sh/vouZp/54fbc0e2a8.png
  3. 01:54:408 - Did you just... shamelessly copied half of the first chorus? lol When you do this stuff you should rotate or flip the patterns somehow so players don't end up playing the exact patterns again. So please, do something like that or remap it~


[Asphyxia's Hard]
  1. 01:35:652 - & 01:40:533 - are unsnapped
  2. 00:22:621 (3,4) - 00:46:056 (3,4) - 01:52:845 (1,2) - 01:58:118 (2,3) - The stacks are not perfect, but they can be

I like those repetition patterns you did when the vocals loop <3

[Kaifinsane]
  1. 00:39:416 (2,3) - The blanket can be improved
  2. 01:48:549 (1) - The score overlaps in 4:3 resolutions, if you care~ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7862071
  3. 02:06:906 - Would you mind adding one more note here with whistle and finish like in every other diff?

Fun to play with all those sv changes, it must have taken you lots of time~

Absolutely nothing bothered me on the highest diff, so that's it :p

My set: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/534813
You can just take a look at 3 or 4 diffs if you want~
that extra you see there is the first one I've mapped, so it may be a disaster ;w; don't bother much about it

Feel free to call me back~
Kaifin

Big Cat wrote:

[Kaifinsane]
  1. 00:39:416 (2,3) - The blanket can be improved fixed
  2. 01:48:549 (1) - The score overlaps in 4:3 resolutions, if you care~ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7862071 imo this is small enough overlap not to matter to me
  3. 02:06:906 - Would you mind adding one more note here with whistle and finish like in every other diff? made the last note to a slider so the crash is there, i can make it a note if you want but i hear 2 notes here instead of 3 so i don't really want to make it clickable if thats ok


Fun to play with all those sv changes, it must have taken you lots of time~
thank you for the mod!

osu file format v14

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Title:Why You Had To Leave (Nightcore Mix)
TitleUnicode:Why You Had To Leave (Nightcore Mix)
Artist:Cascada
ArtistUnicode:Cascada
Creator:VINXIS
Version:Kaifinsane
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Tags:sped up night core Asphyxia Kaifin shit it's hard believe
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Asphyxia
Fixed everything, though I'm pretty sure those stacks will get ruined because that's how stacks are :b

Thanks for mod!
Topic Starter
VINXIS
FUK LOL

ok cahnged stuff up in th elast half of the last kiai in normal

not changing offset cuz no reason 2 change it anywy who carez Xd

update d
Zekeyache
u guys r damn fast

Bubbled~

Topic Starter
VINXIS
hel ya boi


thx fam
Natsu
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General

  1. Kaifinsane needs to be renamed to Kaifin's Insane, I talked with other nominators and QATs about this.
  2. Why do you need a negative offset??



tragic something

  1. 00:35:315 (5,7,8,9) - the stack leniency of the triplet makes an uneven stack.
  2. 01:50:502 (4,6,7,1) - ^
  3. 01:52:259 (6,2,3,4) - ^


Insane

  1. 00:01:921 (1,2,3,4) - about the overlaps in this diff, I had a discussion with other BNs and QATs, while the minory saids it's fine, the
    majority says isn't fine, because the slider patch is almost hidden completely, I had a few people to test the map (people supposed to play this lvl of difficulty) and most of them missread the overlaps. I'll be honest, probably you can find someone who agree with this, but I personally don't, since I firmely believe that those overlaps hurts the readability alot.
    I can agree with something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7997539

  2. 00:28:675 (1,1) - the sv changes are also really tricky to read, maybe do some kind of color hack or change the slider shape of them? the main problem is that the slow sliders looks visually the same as the fast ones.
  3. 00:39:709 (3) - okay the other problem is the rhythm, I don't get what are you trying to follow 00:39:709 (3) - 00:44:689 (3) - etc, they aren't follow the vocals or the more prominent sounds, but ignoring them, idk if you do that for the sake of the patterns, but it doesn't work rhythmically talking, there are more btw
  4. 00:23:012 (1,2) - what happen with the spacing? the sound at 2 is the same as other parts where the spacing was bigger, for example 00:24:184 (2) - etc.
  5. 00:39:221 (1,2) - the NC should be at 2, I understand the vocal thing, but starting the kiai without a NC is weird. 01:41:714 (1,2) - Same


popping over the bolded things, feel free to catch me in game if you want to discuss something
Topic Starter
VINXIS
i alrdy knew the stax do tht but i changed them anyway cuz ur write its ugly

didnt change negative offset cuz no reason 2 cahnge it anyway not worth D effort >: ///////


Waiting4Kaifin
Kaifin

Natsu wrote:

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General

  1. Kaifinsane needs to be renamed to Kaifin's Insane, I talked with other nominators and QATs about this. can i get some reasoning for why this isn't okay but stuff like bbHard and Another445 are fine? i can capitalize the I if you think that would make it clearer but i see no reason why this is any different than those cases
  2. Why do you need a negative offset??


Insane

  1. 00:01:921 (1,2,3,4) - about the overlaps in this diff, I had a discussion with other BNs and QATs, while the minory saids it's fine, the
    majority says isn't fine, because the slider patch is almost hidden completely, I had a few people to test the map (people supposed to play this lvl of difficulty) and most of them missread the overlaps. I'll be honest, probably you can find someone who agree with this, but I personally don't, since I firmely believe that those overlaps hurts the readability alot. this is the introduction of the gimmick that is used throughout the entire map: if the player does not understand on sightread they will literally retry the map and go OH that's how it works! then they will be set to play the rest of the map because the same gimmick is used throughout the whole thing, the map is BASED around the gimmick and changing it at the start especially would make it unfair when it is used later
    I can agree with something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7997539

  2. 00:28:675 (1,1) - the sv changes are also really tricky to read, maybe do some kind of color hack or change the slider shape of them? the main problem is that the slow sliders looks visually the same as the fast ones. if you notice that the notes are NC'd differently, this is the "colour hax" that you are suggesting to make this readable, having them be in the exact same place with the exact same shape is what gives these notes their special emphasis that goes with the song's repeated theme, and it's perfectly readable
  3. 00:39:709 (3) - okay the other problem is the rhythm, I don't get what are you trying to follow 00:39:709 (3) - 00:44:689 (3) - etc, they aren't follow the vocals or the more prominent sounds, but ignoring them, idk if you do that for the sake of the patterns, but it doesn't work rhythmically talking, there are more btw this was the rhythm i was trying to follow but like it's not exactly this snap but not snapped on the white tick either?? i think this current rhythm is the closest i can get to the vocal while still having it be playable, thats what i'm trying to follow but the right snap for the vocal would be having the note start on 00:39:758 - which would make the pattern unnecessarily complicated to read and play in my opinion, i would consider snapping it to the blue tick here as simplification rather than ignoring the song when it's very clear to the player that it's following the vocals, plus the slider leniency means that this snap just makes it easier to play for the player, but i can see the justification behind your point: you should take a closer listen if you don't get what i'm following though hopefully the picture helps explain it
  4. 00:23:012 (1,2) - what happen with the spacing? the sound at 2 is the same as other parts where the spacing was bigger, for example 00:24:184 (2) - etc. compare the spacing of this object to the spacing of 00:16:763 (1,2) - and 00:19:887 (1,2) - , 00:19:887 (1,2) - literally is the same spacing because it's copy pasted in a square..... the spacing is lower for more emphasis on the flow, how it flows through without the repeat, it's a good feeling and it gives more than enough emphasis after the repeated jumps, if i buffed the spacing it would feel awkward and unnatural for the player
  5. 00:39:221 (1,2) - the NC should be at 2, I understand the vocal thing, but starting the kiai without a NC is weird. 01:41:714 (1,2) - Same
it's fine to me: NCing twice would look weird and not NCing 00:39:221 (1) - at all would look even weirder, so it really cant be NC'd any other way

popping over the bolded things, feel free to catch me in game if you want to discuss somethingnone of these issues are unrankable unless you have any other justification or reply to my response: the main issue honestly is an issue of spread, because my diff is more supplemental than spread friendly, but i think that the simplicity of the top diff makes it okay in my eyes
:?
Natsu

Kaifin wrote:

Natsu wrote:

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General

  1. Kaifinsane needs to be renamed to Kaifin's Insane, I talked with other nominators and QATs about this. can i get some reasoning for why this isn't okay but stuff like bbHard and Another445 are fine? i can capitalize the I if you think that would make it clearer but i see no reason why this is any different than those cases We are discussing your map not these 2015 maps, there is a clear difference with your examples and yours, Another445 bbHard , you don't add anythinf special with that kind of meme diff name, just call it Kaifin's Insane as any other GD do, here are the opinions of the other nominator/qats about it http://i.imgur.com/TAljBSR.png


Insane

  1. 00:01:921 (1,2,3,4) - about the overlaps in this diff, I had a discussion with other BNs and QATs, while the minory saids it's fine, the
    majority says isn't fine, because the slider patch is almost hidden completely, I had a few people to test the map (people supposed to play this lvl of difficulty) and most of them missread the overlaps. I'll be honest, probably you can find someone who agree with this, but I personally don't, since I firmely believe that those overlaps hurts the readability alot. this is the introduction of the gimmick that is used throughout the entire map: if the player does not understand on sightread they will literally retry the map and go OH that's how it works! then they will be set to play the rest of the map because the same gimmick is used throughout the whole thing, the map is BASED around the gimmick and changing it at the start especially would make it unfair when it is used later
    I can agree with something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7997539
    The later ones in the map work better, because the SV difference makes more notable the next slider (also take in consideration that the later ones aren't stacked next to each other), in the first set of sliders the overlaps just let you see a bit of the tail which is the problem, if you make the slider sizes a bit bigger from the previous ones that could work better
  2. 00:39:709 (3) - okay the other problem is the rhythm, I don't get what are you trying to follow 00:39:709 (3) - 00:44:689 (3) - etc, they aren't follow the vocals or the more prominent sounds, but ignoring them, idk if you do that for the sake of the patterns, but it doesn't work rhythmically talking, there are more btw oh SHIT u right fuck i thought the note was a 1/4 beat earlier my mistake sorry, fixing the patterns
  3. 00:39:221 (1,2) - the NC should be at 2, I understand the vocal thing, but starting the kiai without a NC is weird. 01:41:714 (1,2) - Same
it's fine to me: NCing twice would look weird and not NCing 00:39:221 (1) - at all would look even weirder, so it really cant be NC'd any other way it's still weird lol, but I guess I do some weird comboing sometimes so I'd let it pass

popping over the bolded things, feel free to catch me in game if you want to discuss somethingnone of these issues are unrankable unless you have any other justification or reply to my response: the main issue honestly is an issue of spread, because my diff is more supplemental than spread friendly, but i think that the simplicity of the top diff makes it okay in my eyes BNs can pop over quality issues or 'subjective' problems to start a discussion and posible solution to these, the diff name, overlaps and the rhythms at your kiais are a enough reason for open a discussion about it
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Edit: I didn't notice that you edited your post, my problem with the rhythms are: 1 you're ignoring obvious strong sounds and mapping to tiny sounds at the blue ticks. 2 you're ignoring the vocals, what you hear starting previous the white tick is just her breath.
Kaifin
any conscious player will tell you that the sliders in the opening are fine, the target audience of this map is obviously higher than the star rating (as stated in the first reply) so don't let the SR influence your opinion on whether or not things are okay in the map

what is your suggestion for a fixed rhythm that follows the vocals? the vocal clearly does not begin on the white tick if you listen on 25% so either the timing is off (which i doubt it is) or it's snapped to the 1/8th tick. i can't abandon following the vocals because i'm following them the whole kiai, and i think that snapping it to the blue tick isn't even additive mapping or an overmap or ignoring the rhythm of the song, it's expressing the song in an easier to play and understand way

as for the diff name, that's not a big deal to change lol it's just a pun :( i said that i would capitalize the I in Insane, i'm not trying to be _edgy_ i just wanted to make a play on words zzz
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