Yuno Nikusu wrote:

StephOsu wrote:

As a player that use both mouse and tablet, I would say that this is 80% wrong other than the fact that mouse need more time to get similar results
Tablet and mouse has the same skill ceiling, and we can prove that by looking at angelmegumi and other top 5 player
The reason why tablet might be better than mouse was the ability to trace the cursor through absolute positioning which makes developing muscle memory easier
I would say that mouse actually has better control due to the weight, but it is harder to play jumps compare to tablet because of the weight of the mouse and something called "mouse drifting"
That doesn't meant that tablet has no flaws too, as it has its fair share of problem like more vulnerable to shaky aims
Tablets are superior than mouse when it comes to jump due to mobility, while mouse are superior to tablet when it comes to stream because of the control they have, so each hardware has their part to focus on so that players can get better

you said top 5, top 5 what LOL the other 4 are TABLET PLAYERS, who cares about what tablet apologetics you have when the top 3 players on this game are tablet users which far exceed the skill of mostly everyone else in top 100

im not even going to read what bullshit you said about tablet "flaws" all i know is that the results speak for themselves

winber1 wrote:

there are actual limitations to mouse, since mouse drifting is a huge problem in gaming, albeit not noticeable usually. tablet's don't suffer from this as they use absolute positioning. when it comes to tablet, it's a matter of learning position of your fingers or arms. when it comes to mouse, it's a matter of learning distance (if you don't use acceleration) or learning speed (if you do use acceleration). of course it all boils down to muscle memory, but certain modes of movement are harder to learn because we were not evolutionary made for those specific traits. lets be real her no one here will agree that learning to move at any particular speed is easier than learning to move any particular distance with your hand (within reasonable bounds), especially when it comes to osu, since BPM changes all the time.

also mouse just sucks ass

FindsPlays wrote:

So would snapping be a good idea

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet

>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?

StephOsu wrote:

am I the only one who thinks that mouse > tablet at spinning?

StephOsu wrote:

FindsPlays wrote:

am I the only one who thinks that mouse > tablet at spinning?

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet

>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?

Kyozoru wrote:

It's the same with one exception
Tablet - easy to grip
Mouse - you hold your hand, stamina breaker

LoGo wrote:

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet

>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?

I'm lefthanded but play with right, and can't play with left using tablet, way too low ability and probably would take way longer to master than mouse/tablet in right.
I played with tablet 2 years, my aim was literal utter shit, couldn't snap at all, therefore no pp.
Doesn't matter on what you spin, i could spin 450+ on both( didn't take long to learn.. ), all you need to do is understand how to achieve that, it's the same thing with both hands aka you will shake your hand with both devices, but well i would say tablet is slightly in advantage here but it really depends on the grip, only because of absolute positioning, but it helps only to the beginning of spin, no difference in aiming to next circle after spinner or how fast you spin.
Other 3 points are useless
I regret buying, playing nearly 2 yeas and bothering with such thing as tablet with all my fking heart D:
It took me 1 month with mouse to set scores i couldn't set with tablet... just because of consistency and ability to snap, some people may say, snapping is not important, i would highly disagree, if you understand how to snap it gives pretty insane ability to do squares or any other shape, and it's way more consistent than making a circle instead of square although obviously even with that circle it's possible to aim that square( at some extent tho.)

Arthraxium wrote:

Well, you're probably one of the few with troubles using a tablet. I just stated popular facts there, so you're basically disagreeing to the general consensus here. It's not like I'm blaming you, it's just that you took my post rather seriously.

FindsPlays wrote:

I see a lot of people saying that tablet is better than mouse but what makes it better than the mouse?
I use the mouse a lot and I'm better than most people at my rank.... (or at least I think I am in terms of skill.) I know this might be a stupid question but I really want to know. NOTE: I have never used a tablet so that's the reason I'm asking this question... I'm mostly looking for people that use both but if u use one or the other then ur also welcomed here .

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)

Well everything is hard to use if you didnt play enough. The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same. Tablet might have a slight advantage in precision and making jumps at the beginning but there are many good mouse players so it's basically proven that mouse can do almost everything that tablet can

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)

Well everything is hard to use if you didnt play enough. The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same. Tablet might have a slight advantage in precision and making jumps at the beginning but there are many good mouse players so it's basically proven that mouse can do almost everything that tablet can

Yuno Nikusu wrote:

LoGo wrote:

The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same.
In what universe ? Did you even read anything anyone said here. Skill cap is completely different but both can be quite close as human still remains human and only in some rare exceptions that insane cap that tablet has may be somewhat reached

If you take 2 perfect examples of mouse and tablet player, tablet will be way above mouse... how do you have to think to say such thing.. like wtf..

when he said mouse had more control over using a stylus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E

LoGo wrote:

The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same.
In what universe ? Did you even read anything anyone said here. Skill cap is completely different but both can be quite close as human still remains human and only in some rare exceptions that insane cap that tablet has may be somewhat reached

If you take 2 perfect examples of mouse and tablet player, tablet will be way above mouse... how do you have to think to say such thing.. like wtf..

FindsPlays wrote:

One thing I also noticed it seems that when u have a tablet u have more control because u have a pen unlike a mouse which u have to move ur whole with u can correct me on that (I might be 100% wrong for all I know lol)

Yuno Nikusu wrote:

we've been holding pens and pencils(and chopsticks if asian) for hundreds of years universally and steph tells us that we have less control over something that we've been using for only 2 decades just on the physical aspect, not only do you have to cover way more surface area your hands have to open up way more which means LESS control compared to a tight grip on a really small stylus, like imagine lifting barbells with a really thick rod that your hand just perfectly wraps around compared to a barbell with a thin rod that you can pretty much form a fist with, you will guaranteed have more control on the latter than the former

LoGo wrote:

I'm lefthanded but play with right, and can't play with left using tablet, way too low ability and probably would take way longer to master than mouse/tablet in right.
I played with tablet 2 years, my aim was literal utter shit, couldn't snap at all, therefore no pp.
Doesn't matter on what you spin, i could spin 450+ on both( didn't take long to learn.. ), all you need to do is understand how to achieve that, it's the same thing with both hands aka you will shake your hand with both devices, but well i would say tablet is slightly in advantage here but it really depends on the grip, only because of absolute positioning, but it helps only to the beginning of spin, no difference in aiming to next circle after spinner or how fast you spin.
Other 3 points are useless
I regret buying, playing nearly 2 yeas and bothering with such thing as tablet with all my fking heart D:
It took me 1 month with mouse to set scores i couldn't set with tablet... just because of consistency and ability to snap, some people may say, snapping is not important, i would highly disagree, if you understand how to snap it gives pretty insane ability to do squares or any other shape, and it's way more consistent than making a circle instead of square although obviously even with that circle it's possible to aim that square( at some extent tho.)

Xayne wrote:

I played with mouse up to rank 16k then got a tablet. I've had a tablet for close to 6 months now and I still don't think I'm as good with the tablet as I was in my prime with the mouse. I was way more consistent aim-wise with the mouse. If you have a mousepad and space large enough to make drifting a non-issue, then I really don't see any reason why tablet is better than mouse. However, if you're going to play at a high level with a mouse, you need a good quality mouse that is capable of registering the quick movements required in higher level mapping. I hit a wall when I was using some $30 wireless mouse I got at Best Buy because it couldn't track fast enough to keep up with the large jumps. I invested in a Logitech G502 and that problem immediately went away. The way I see it, if you're better at using mouse, there's no reason not to continue using it. You can get just as good with a mouse as you can with a tablet. The only reason I still play tablet is because I feel like I've invested so much time into learning it, that it would be a waste to switch back now.

F1r3tar wrote:

Mouse can anything.

F1r3tar wrote:

"Mouse can anything."

M3ATL0V3R wrote:

This might be weird coming from a mouse player but if you are new to the game and have the money I would recommend a tablet. The reason is because it is easier to get to higher ranks on tablet than it is using a mouse. Mouse drift increases the amount of effort you have to put in to re position the mouse during maps. Sometimes its easy on maps with sliders but even still that is one extra action you have to do that tablet players don't.

I ended up staying with a mouse and not buying a tablet when i started because I'm cheap and cant be bothered buying a good tablet when i have an awesome razer deathadder (2013) already.

Endie- wrote:

F1r3tar wrote:

Mouse can anything.