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Why is mouse not as good as tablet?

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F o o n d s
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F o o n d s
I see a lot of people saying that tablet is better than mouse but what makes it better than the mouse?
I use the mouse a lot and I'm better than most people at my rank.... (or at least I think I am in terms of skill.) I know this might be a stupid question but I really want to know. NOTE: I have never used a tablet so that's the reason I'm asking this question... I'm mostly looking for people that use both but if u use one or the other then ur also welcomed here :).
Endaris
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Endaris
Play more.
The player ranked at #4 plays with a mouse. Mouse might be harder to learn at first but the skill ceiling is pretty much as high as that of a tablet.
They're just different devices after all that have advantages in different areas. Tablet is more popular because it's easier to get more pp at first due to its higher mobility but that doesn't make it automatically better.
ManuelOsuPlayer
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ManuelOsuPlayer

FindsPlays wrote:

I see a lot of people saying that tablet is better than mouse but what makes it better than the mouse?
I use the mouse a lot and I'm better than most people at my rank.... (or at least I think I am in terms of skill.) I know this might be a stupid question but I really want to know. NOTE: I have never used a tablet so that's the reason I'm asking this question... I'm mostly looking for people that use both but if u use one or the other then ur also welcomed here :).
Tablet it's better on some songs, mouse it's better on other songs. Some people are better with mouse, and some people it's better with tablet.
I think tablet it's better when you master it because the mouse it's bigger and hardest to control.
I think mouse it's hardest to master too.
The both are kinda the same, but mouse need much more time to get similar results. That's why tablet could be better in my opinion.
Pd: Mouse it's more fun for me^^
StephOsu
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StephOsu

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

FindsPlays wrote:

I see a lot of people saying that tablet is better than mouse but what makes it better than the mouse?
I use the mouse a lot and I'm better than most people at my rank.... (or at least I think I am in terms of skill.) I know this might be a stupid question but I really want to know. NOTE: I have never used a tablet so that's the reason I'm asking this question... I'm mostly looking for people that use both but if u use one or the other then ur also welcomed here :).
Tablet it's better on some songs, mouse it's better on other songs. Some people are better with mouse, and some people it's better with tablet.
I think tablet it's better when you master it because the mouse it's bigger and hardest to control.
I think mouse it's hardest to master too.
The both are kinda the same, but mouse need much more time to get similar results. That's why tablet could be better in my opinion.
Pd: Mouse it's more fun for me^^
As a player that use both mouse and tablet, I would say that this is 80% wrong other than the fact that mouse need more time to get similar results
Tablet and mouse has the same skill ceiling, and we can prove that by looking at angelmegumi and other top 5 player
The reason why tablet might be better than mouse was the ability to trace the cursor through absolute positioning which makes developing muscle memory easier
I would say that mouse actually has better control due to the weight, but it is harder to play jumps compare to tablet because of the weight of the mouse and something called "mouse drifting"
That doesn't meant that tablet has no flaws too, as it has its fair share of problem like more vulnerable to shaky aims
Tablets are superior than mouse when it comes to jump due to mobility, while mouse are superior to tablet when it comes to stream because of the control they have, so each hardware has their part to focus on so that players can get better
F o o n d s
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F o o n d s
I understand now thank you :D
F o o n d s
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F o o n d s
Feel free to leave more reasons why if u want
vinnicci
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F o o n d s
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F o o n d s
I'm both handed so that could work lol
winber1
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winber1
there are actual limitations to mouse, since mouse drifting is a huge problem in gaming, albeit not noticeable usually. tablet's don't suffer from this as they use absolute positioning. when it comes to tablet, it's a matter of learning position of your fingers or arms. when it comes to mouse, it's a matter of learning distance (if you don't use acceleration) or learning speed (if you do use acceleration). of course it all boils down to muscle memory, but certain modes of movement are harder to learn because we were not evolutionary made for those specific traits. lets be real her no one here will agree that learning to move at any particular speed is easier than learning to move any particular distance with your hand (within reasonable bounds), especially when it comes to osu, since BPM changes all the time.

also mouse just sucks ass
Kyozoru
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Kyozoru
It's the same with one exception
Tablet - easy to grip
Mouse - you hold your hand, stamina breaker
Caenis
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FrzR
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FrzR
You're just bad.
StephOsu
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StephOsu

Yuno Nikusu wrote:

StephOsu wrote:

As a player that use both mouse and tablet, I would say that this is 80% wrong other than the fact that mouse need more time to get similar results
Tablet and mouse has the same skill ceiling, and we can prove that by looking at angelmegumi and other top 5 player
The reason why tablet might be better than mouse was the ability to trace the cursor through absolute positioning which makes developing muscle memory easier
I would say that mouse actually has better control due to the weight, but it is harder to play jumps compare to tablet because of the weight of the mouse and something called "mouse drifting"
That doesn't meant that tablet has no flaws too, as it has its fair share of problem like more vulnerable to shaky aims
Tablets are superior than mouse when it comes to jump due to mobility, while mouse are superior to tablet when it comes to stream because of the control they have, so each hardware has their part to focus on so that players can get better
you said top 5, top 5 what LOL the other 4 are TABLET PLAYERS, who cares about what tablet apologetics you have when the top 3 players on this game are tablet users which far exceed the skill of mostly everyone else in top 100

im not even going to read what bullshit you said about tablet "flaws" all i know is that the results speak for themselves
Not you again
Umad? Stay mad
F o o n d s
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F o o n d s

winber1 wrote:

there are actual limitations to mouse, since mouse drifting is a huge problem in gaming, albeit not noticeable usually. tablet's don't suffer from this as they use absolute positioning. when it comes to tablet, it's a matter of learning position of your fingers or arms. when it comes to mouse, it's a matter of learning distance (if you don't use acceleration) or learning speed (if you do use acceleration). of course it all boils down to muscle memory, but certain modes of movement are harder to learn because we were not evolutionary made for those specific traits. lets be real her no one here will agree that learning to move at any particular speed is easier than learning to move any particular distance with your hand (within reasonable bounds), especially when it comes to osu, since BPM changes all the time.

also mouse just sucks ass
So would snapping be a good idea :P
Sayorie
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Sayorie
Buy a tablet if you can afford it.

Pros of buying a tablet
>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?
Hiro-Senpai
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Hiro-Senpai
I agree with StephOsu but still
TABLET MASTER RACE huehuehue :P
Mahogany
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Mahogany
Because tablet has absolute tracking while mouse is stuck with relative tracking therefore mouse drift is a problem

That is the only absolute difference between the two

Literally everything else is subjective and preference
StephOsu
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StephOsu

FindsPlays wrote:

So would snapping be a good idea :P
snapping is always a good idea if you are a mouse player
not quite for tablet player though and I don't know the reason

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet
>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?
am I the only one who thinks that mouse > tablet at spinning?
Sayorie
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Sayorie

StephOsu wrote:

am I the only one who thinks that mouse > tablet at spinning?
well most likely you're spinning wrongly if that's the case, unless you have performance-grade teflon feet under your mice and have a hard mousepad, which feels like gliding on ice. Spinning became a lot easier after I switched from mouse to tablet. But hey, this is just my experience. I don't know about your case.
StephOsu
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StephOsu
took me one and a half month to be able to spin 300+rpm constantly after getting a tablet
ManuelOsuPlayer
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ManuelOsuPlayer

StephOsu wrote:

FindsPlays wrote:

am I the only one who thinks that mouse > tablet at spinning?
I hate spins and i'm 100% sure i double the points with pen instead of mouse.
Endaris
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Endaris
Tbh, the longer you play with mouse the more natural spinning becomes. I can spin 350 constant without even thinking about it and I remember myself struggling and focusing on spinners as well. Started at 250 or so. And it doesnt really stop, pretty sure I will spin 390 in half a year or so without giving an effort.
LoGo
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LoGo

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet
>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?
I'm lefthanded but play with right, and can't play with left using tablet, way too low ability and probably would take way longer to master than mouse/tablet in right.
I played with tablet 2 years, my aim was literal utter shit, couldn't snap at all, therefore no pp.
Doesn't matter on what you spin, i could spin 450+ on both( didn't take long to learn.. ), all you need to do is understand how to achieve that, it's the same thing with both hands aka you will shake your hand with both devices, but well i would say tablet is slightly in advantage here but it really depends on the grip, only because of absolute positioning, but it helps only to the beginning of spin, no difference in aiming to next circle after spinner or how fast you spin.
Other 3 points are useless
I regret buying, playing nearly 2 yeas and bothering with such thing as tablet with all my fking heart D:
It took me 1 month with mouse to set scores i couldn't set with tablet... just because of consistency and ability to snap, some people may say, snapping is not important, i would highly disagree, if you understand how to snap it gives pretty insane ability to do squares or any other shape, and it's way more consistent than making a circle instead of square although obviously even with that circle it's possible to aim that square( at some extent tho.)

Someone mentioned doing streams with mouse is easier, no difference i would actually say it's easier with tablet, don't know about other people but when i stream high bpm my aiming hand tensions, maybe if you reach absurd speed or have red switches :^) , that maybe doesn't happen, no idea, but with mouse it's way harder to move spaced streams when your hand is under tension, also mouse drift, it's not even describable how terribad it is when you do long spaced stream and fk up just because your mouse is in some retarded position ( with time you can kinda get used to it and maybe survive that stream then quickly find some part where you can fix but... that's not that easy )

Kyozoru wrote:

It's the same with one exception
Tablet - easy to grip
Mouse - you hold your hand, stamina breaker
I guess for right handed that's the case, but for any left handed but play with right.. i feel like that's a nightmare to find comfortable grip but some do find it and are pretty good, sadly i wasn't that lucky
IF you play consistently your stamina will increase pretty fast ( with mouse )

tl;dr
good luck on tag4 maps with mouse :^), they are the best example why tablet is superior, "kinda doable" but if you compare to tablet players they are actually doable instead of kinda doable
Sayorie
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Sayorie

LoGo wrote:

Arthraxium wrote:

Pros of buying a tablet
>larger ego
>faster pp
>spinners are no problem
>you can easily draw and edit memes as compared to mouse
>if you do art, +++++bonus
>you look sophisticated
>you won't regret 'not buying a tablet'
>because why not?
I'm lefthanded but play with right, and can't play with left using tablet, way too low ability and probably would take way longer to master than mouse/tablet in right.
I played with tablet 2 years, my aim was literal utter shit, couldn't snap at all, therefore no pp.
Doesn't matter on what you spin, i could spin 450+ on both( didn't take long to learn.. ), all you need to do is understand how to achieve that, it's the same thing with both hands aka you will shake your hand with both devices, but well i would say tablet is slightly in advantage here but it really depends on the grip, only because of absolute positioning, but it helps only to the beginning of spin, no difference in aiming to next circle after spinner or how fast you spin.
Other 3 points are useless
I regret buying, playing nearly 2 yeas and bothering with such thing as tablet with all my fking heart D:
It took me 1 month with mouse to set scores i couldn't set with tablet... just because of consistency and ability to snap, some people may say, snapping is not important, i would highly disagree, if you understand how to snap it gives pretty insane ability to do squares or any other shape, and it's way more consistent than making a circle instead of square although obviously even with that circle it's possible to aim that square( at some extent tho.)
Well, you're probably one of the few with troubles using a tablet. I just stated popular facts there, so you're basically disagreeing to the general consensus here. It's not like I'm blaming you, it's just that you took my post rather seriously. :o
LoGo
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LoGo

Arthraxium wrote:

Well, you're probably one of the few with troubles using a tablet. I just stated popular facts there, so you're basically disagreeing to the general consensus here. It's not like I'm blaming you, it's just that you took my post rather seriously. :o
Nah, i'm prety chill :D, but i know some who are the same, playing with right but lefthanded and if i compare their progression to other player progression who are righthanded it's pretty noticable, hard to compare tho, as everyone have their own pace of learning and understanding things.. but one of my friends literally could aim way better in 15 minutes with tablet than i did in 1 month, we bought tablet i think with 1 week difference or few days, dont remember.
iSatoru
iSatoru

FindsPlays wrote:

I see a lot of people saying that tablet is better than mouse but what makes it better than the mouse?
I use the mouse a lot and I'm better than most people at my rank.... (or at least I think I am in terms of skill.) I know this might be a stupid question but I really want to know. NOTE: I have never used a tablet so that's the reason I'm asking this question... I'm mostly looking for people that use both but if u use one or the other then ur also welcomed here :).
i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)
Hiro-Senpai
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Hiro-Senpai

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)
Well everything is hard to use if you didnt play enough. The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same. Tablet might have a slight advantage in precision and making jumps at the beginning but there are many good mouse players so it's basically proven that mouse can do almost everything that tablet can
iSatoru
iSatoru

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)
Well everything is hard to use if you didnt play enough. The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same. Tablet might have a slight advantage in precision and making jumps at the beginning but there are many good mouse players so it's basically proven that mouse can do almost everything that tablet can
k senpai
LoGo
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LoGo

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

iSatoru wrote:

i use mouse and i get used to it so why tablet lol (fyi if u want to pass an insane mode mouse is kinda hard to use k)
Well everything is hard to use if you didnt play enough. The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same. Tablet might have a slight advantage in precision and making jumps at the beginning but there are many good mouse players so it's basically proven that mouse can do almost everything that tablet can
The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same.
In what universe ? Did you even read anything anyone said here. Skill cap is completely different but both can be quite close as human still remains human and only in some rare exceptions that insane cap that tablet has may be somewhat reached

If you take 2 perfect examples of mouse and tablet player, tablet will be way above mouse... how do you have to think to say such thing.. like wtf..
Caenis
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iSatoru
iSatoru

Yuno Nikusu wrote:

LoGo wrote:

The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same.
In what universe ? Did you even read anything anyone said here. Skill cap is completely different but both can be quite close as human still remains human and only in some rare exceptions that insane cap that tablet has may be somewhat reached

If you take 2 perfect examples of mouse and tablet player, tablet will be way above mouse... how do you have to think to say such thing.. like wtf..
when he said mouse had more control over using a stylus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E
Hiro-Senpai
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Hiro-Senpai

LoGo wrote:

The skill cap of mouse or tablet is the same.
In what universe ? Did you even read anything anyone said here. Skill cap is completely different but both can be quite close as human still remains human and only in some rare exceptions that insane cap that tablet has may be somewhat reached

If you take 2 perfect examples of mouse and tablet player, tablet will be way above mouse... how do you have to think to say such thing.. like wtf..
Okay i rethinked this and i agree with you
F o o n d s
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F o o n d s
One thing I also noticed it seems that when u have a tablet u have more control because u have a pen unlike a mouse which u have to move ur whole with u can correct me on that (I might be 100% wrong for all I know lol)
7ambda
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