ETIA. - Enkan no Kotowari [OsuMania]

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Shinzo-

Eternalie wrote:

Hey ho Sora and shin and CS
mod for shin's diff , hope it can halp

keys=1/2/3/4/5/6/7
[Shin's 7K Another]
being the hardest diff you could add one more note here 00:02:439 (2439|3,2439|6) - for the piano sounds
and so on for the LNs until that point : 00:09:439 (9439|1) -
00:02:606 (2606|0) - add a note for the piano sound , according to : 00:10:606 (10606|2) - < this is the same piano rythm and should then apply to the whole section imho ok
00:05:273 (5273|4) - ^ ^
00:07:939 (7939|3) - ^ ^ ^

00:28:606 (28606|5,28773|0,28939|6) - shouldn't this have two simples then one LN ? like in this section : 00:23:106 oh my bad(23106|6,23106|4,23106|2,23273|5,23273|1,23439|0,23439|2,23439|4,23606|5,23606|1,23773|6,23773|4,23773|2) -
^ it feels strange to see the pattern going easier in term of number of notes , also that the melody and drums sounds louder in this part

00:44:106 (44106|6) - the LN section is lovely ngyaaaaah nice ! thanks :D

00:43:106 (43106|2,43106|6) - add one more or two more note for the snare ?
00:43:773 (43773|1) - same ^ okay ^

01:25:773 (85773|0) - add another note to 1 ? idk it feels more confortable this way
01:54:106 (114106|6,114439|5) - ctrl+J then move : 01:54:606 (114606|4) - to 6 to avoid the jack

02:11:939 (131939|3) - same suggestion as in the beginning of the map
02:14:606 (134606|3) - ^
02:17:273 (137273|4) - ^ ^ same

02:18:106 (138106|6) - for that LN I suggest this fixed in other way
02:20:773 (140773|2) - move to 1 for pitch ? okay also rearanged


Good Luck :3

Not many stars here , please gather more xD
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182,192,140773,128,0,141439:0:0:0:0:[code][/code]
arcwinolivirus
"Arcwinolivirus' M4M-only contract"

A contract to be fulfilled as exchange of mod.


Song: ETIA. - Enkan no Kotowari (-SoraGami-)
Number of difficulties modded in my map: 8 - 4K Easy, 4K Normal, 4K Hard, 4K Insane, 7K Easy, 7K Normal, 7K Hard, 7K Insane


Note:
• First of all, I would want to apologize if I ever say something that will hurt your feelings as a mapper. Remember that I only want to give advices, suggestions, recommendations and sideas for some improvement in your map. Please do understand and thank you.

• do not be afraid to reject some parts of my mod. I am not perfect and I am not always right. But I do give my best to mod with sense. Also, I do not bite rawr.

• If I suggest to "remove or ctrl function moves" on certain note/s, dont forget and be sure to move the hitsound on the other note beside the suggested note.


[General]
Audio: OK!
BG: OK!
BPM: OK!
Offset: OK!
Preview Time: OK!

AiMod:
• Tags conflict in CS' 4K Normal, must fix.
• Break time in Shin's difficulty.
Column:
_ _ _ _
4K - |1|2|3|4|
[4K Beginner]
00:14:439 - add note here similar kick sound to 00:13:106 (13106|0) - . Also it has a piano-like sound similar to 00:14:106 (14106|3) - if you will listen carefully. Adding a note here will also complete the flow of 1/1 measures, without feeling off. You decide.

00:19:773 - ^

00:38:106 (38106|3) - move to 1? so it can be differ to 00:38:439 (38439|1,38606|2,38773|3) -

01:18:439 - add note, same reason as 1st.

01:23:773 - ^

01:25:273 (85273|3) - This LN feels off as it starts early before the 1/4th melody. Suggesting to make it a single note and can be even double note since ending sound. After that, add LN at 01:25:606 - where LN fits for that continuous melody. It is done in CS' difficulty. You decide.

02:09:773 - add note to 3 just like you did at 02:09:439 (129439|1) - and like you did on 7K Beginner since strong sounds cymbals.

02:10:106 - ^ to 1

02:10:439 - ^ to 4




[CS' 4K Normal]
00:10:939 (10939|0,11273|1) - change to single note as it feels inconsistent since there are no 1/2 long sound occured beside the raising long sound. Even other difficulties and 7K Normal didn't add mini-LNs here.

00:19:773 - add note as you added a note with a similar kick sound at 00:13:106 (13106|1) - not to mention there's a marble-clash like sound occured here as well. 7K Normal has a note here.

00:32:106 (32106|2,32439|1,32773|0) - move one column to right which gives more clearer sight and more comfortable execution of the pattern.

01:03:856 (63856|3,64023|1) - Suggesting to remove. This is the spike of this difficulty and I find it also hard as it is like an HD-like note pattern. Removing the 1/4 will reduce the spike. 7K Normal doesn't have 1/4 in this part.

01:05:189 (65189|1,65356|2) - ^

01:21:106 (81106|1) - move to 1 since 01:20:439 (80439|1,80773|1,81106|1,81439|1) -

01:45:439 (105439|3) - change to LN? as it really feels empty before 01:46:106 - and 7K Normal did the LN as well. If decided to add, you might want to change 01:46:106 (106106|1) - to LN as well until 01:46:439 - which is same as 7K Normal.

01:49:773 - add note to 4, consistent snare like 01:51:106 (111106|0) -

01:52:439 - ^

01:56:023 (116023|0) - move to 3 so it can make a mini-stair pattern that is comfortable to hit.

02:00:439 - add note for snare.

02:05:773 - ^ and there is a synth sound here.



[4K Hyper]
00:11:606 - add note to 4 since piano sound and seems better if piano notes ended there.

00:16:106 (16106|1) - move to 4, so it can be same as 00:13:439 (13439|3,13439|0) - which fits for that snare-like sound.

00:21:773 - suggesting http://puu.sh/qPdjC/37328b83cd.jpg
• Comfortable pattern, hand balanced.
• The last note fits on column 4 pressed by right middle finger since there's a hold on right hand middle finger on column 1.

01:00:773 (60773|2,60773|0,60939|1,60939|3,61106|3,61106|2) - ctrl H feels more comfortable and not stressing right hand.

02:08:606 (128606|1) - move to 3 so there won't be too much on left 02:08:273 (128273|0,128439|1,128439|0,128606|1) -



[4K Another]
00:11:606 - add note to 4 for piano.

00:15:439 (15439|0,15439|1,15606|1,15773|2,15773|3,15939|0,15939|2,16106|0,16106|1) - seems awkward to play imo.Suggesting to rearrange.

00:21:773 (21773|3) - remove, no additional sound occured here, its just a synth like 00:22:106 (22106|1) -

01:45:356 - add note to 3 since same kick sound as others.

02:00:273 (120273|2,120439|2,120606|2,120773|2) - rearrange some note here as this part feels off. Make it similar to 02:04:273 (124273|2,124439|1,124439|3,124439|0,124523|2,124606|1,124689|0,124773|3,124773|1,124856|2) - which is quite comfortable.
Column:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
7K - |1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
[7K Beginner]
00:14:439 - same suggestion on 4K Beginner. Adding a note will also give a complete feeling for the kick sound.

00:19:773 - ^

00:44:606 (44606|1) - move to 3, seems better on index finger and also not repeating after 00:44:106 (44106|1) - . It also fits along with 00:45:106 (45106|4,45439|6) - and will result similar to 00:49:939 (49939|2) -

01:03:023 (63023|4,63023|2,63273|1,63273|5) - ctrl J, more comfortable and fits along with the pitch.

01:05:439 (65439|1) - move to 1 for clearer vision and can be similar to 01:06:106 (66106|0) - which has a cymbal sound as well.

01:18:439 - add note, same suggestion on 4K Beginner.

01:23:773 - ^

01:58:439 (118439|1) - move to 1 as counter part of 01:57:439 (117439|4,117773|6) -



[7K Normal]
00:18:106 (18106|4,18439|5,18606|4) - move to 4 | 5 | 6 respectively for clearer and neat pattern which is comfortable to play.

00:30:939 (30939|3) - remove? sudden note here without any kick sound. Also if I assume this is for the synth, it seems inconsistent as you didn't add synth sound on like 00:24:606 - . If assumed piano, same off feeling as you didn't add note at 00:25:939 - . Quite complicated with just a single note haha.

01:04:106 (64106|1,64106|6,64106|0) - remove one note since no additional strong sound occured here and same sound as 01:04:356 (64356|2,64356|3,64606|4,64606|6,64773|1,64773|0) -

01:19:939 (79939|0,80106|1) - swap column for smoother pattern.

01:45:439 (105439|6) - remove? as the 01:46:106 (106106|1,106106|2) - is only double with the same sound. If not removed, might want to add at 01:46:106 -

To be honest, I already want to call this as Hard since its already on border line haha. Hardest 7K Normal imo.



[7K Hyper]
00:11:606 - add note for piano though you can also add singles on 00:11:773 - and 00:11:939 - since there are piano's as well.

00:22:606 (22606|4) - move to 4 for comfortability.

01:02:106 (62106|5) - move to 1? seems kinda off since 01:01:939 (61939|4,61939|6,62106|1,62106|5) -

01:05:106 (65106|1) - move to 7 so it can match along with 01:04:773 (64773|0,64773|1,64939|2,64939|3) - and much better start for the stair.



[Shin's 7K Another]
Take note that I used 4K Another as reference for those notes additions for consistency.

00:01:939 - add note to 4 since piano + melody sound

00:02:606 - add note, sound here

00:03:439 - ^ to 1

00:05:106 - add note

00:05:273 - add note

00:06:106 - ^

00:07:773 - ^

00:07:939 - ^

00:09:273 (9273|3) - remove, inaudible sound. 4K Another do not have note at here.

00:11:773 - and 00:11:773 - would be good if note for piano here as well, you can even make Stair-LN for that.

00:12:273 - add note for the hihat / piano sounds.

00:12:939 - ^

00:14:273 - ^

00:14:939 - ^

00:15:606 - ^

00:18:273 - ^

00:19:606 - ^

00:20:273 - ^

00:20:939 - ^

00:21:273 (21273|4) - move to 5 for more comfortable and smooth pattern.

00:21:773 - add note for synth

00:22:106 - ^

00:22:273 - ^
00:39:106 (39106|1,39273|3) - swap column to avoid 00:38:773 (38773|1,38939|1,39106|1) -

00:43:106 - add note snare + synth

00:43:439 - ^

00:43:773 - ^

00:44:106 - until 00:54:773 - You made this part pretty easy for Another only focusing for LN. Note for Percussion as well so it can have consistency. Take 4K Another as reference for percussions then use LN in a way that can emphasize the long sounds.

01:01:106 (61106|4,61273|4,61439|4) - rearrange

01:04:939 (64939|0) - ctrl H to avoid 01:04:773 (64773|0,64939|0,65106|0) -

01:05:439 - until 01:16:106 - break time is un-rankable if there are instruments on that breaktime. Take 4K Another as reference for it. This must be fixed.

01:16:273 - add note sound.

01:17:606 - ^ melody sound

01:18:939 - ^

01:20:273 - ^

01:21:606 - ^

01:22:273 - ^

01:22:939 - ^

01:24:273 - ^

01:25:439 - ^

01:25:606 - and 01:25:689 - ^

01:27:689 - add note continuous flow if piano

01:27:856 - ^

01:28:689 - ^

01:28:856 - ^

01:30:356 - ^

01:30:523 - ^

01:31:356 - ^

01:31:523 - ^

01:33:023 - ^

01:34:023 - ^

01:34:189 - ^

01:35:689 - ^

01:35:856 - ^

01:36:689 - ^

01:38:273 - ^ hihat

01:44:939 (104939|0,105106|0,105273|1,105273|0,105439|1,105439|0,105606|1,105773|1,105939|1) - rearrange, it gives awkward feeling when played.

02:07:856 - add note piano

02:08:023 - ^

02:11:273 - add note just like the intro

02:11:773 - ^

02:12:773 - ^

02:14:439 - ^

02:14:606 - ^

02:15:439 - ^

02:17:106 - ^

02:17:273 - ^

02:17:439 - ^

02:17:606 - ^

02:17:773 - ^

02:17:939 - ^



[Overall]
As I said back then when I test played this song, really cool stuff here and with the complete difficulties? its more awesome now~

Thank you so much for the contract, Good luck and until next time~

Please vote here as feedback for my M4M modding performance: t/372334

~ END OF CONTRACT ~
Ochasan
mark ^_^
Ochasan
OK

NM Req from Ocha's Kwiuwik

so late............

code = 1|2|3|4

General
4K Beginner
OD change to 7, you can check that on AiMod

7K Beginner
OD change to 7, you can check that on AiMod

CS' 4K Normal
conflict tags with all diff

All Diff
tags : Ctritical_Star? owo

C "t" r i t i c a l

4K Beginner
00:13:273 (13273|2,13439|1) make this to stairs for newbie read, you can rearrange another notes to for that
00:15:773 (15773|2,15939|0) ^
00:17:273 (17273|0,17439|2) ^
00:46:939 (46939|3,47106|1) ^
00:52:106 (52106|1,52273|2) ^
01:04:773 (64773|3,64939|2) ^
01:17:273 (77273|2,77439|1) ^
01:22:439 (82439|1,82606|2) ^
00:51:773 (51773|3) LN is note recomended for this difficulty, change that
02:20:773 (140773|3) move to col 1 for good place ^_^

CS' 4K Normal
00:38:273 (38273|2,38606|2,38773|3) maybe you can rearrange them for avoid jack instead
01:04:773 - 01:05:273 i don't know how to fix this part, can you rearrange them for a better future
01:51:273 - 01:51:604 - 01:53:939 - 01:54:250 - 01:55:106 - 02:01:939 you can add note for following bass "dub - dass"
01:55:939 (115939|3,116023|0,116106|1) please make this stairs for better pattern

4K Hyper
00:54:773 (54773|0) you can change this to LN for 00:54:939 effect
01:37:439 (97439|1) ^
01:31:773 (91773|3,91939|3,92106|3) some little jack here

4K Another
good already


DONE!!!
OWO
bye~
Adot
M4M
hi Soragami, CS, and Shinzo >.<

'kay, let's go to pattern
|1|2|3|4|

this map is pretty good, maybe i just give few mods

  1. 01:08:439 (68439|1,68773|3) - ctrl+H then move to col 1, 01:09:773 (69773|0,70106|2) - ctrl + H then move to col 2, to make more variety patterns in this section
  2. 01:37:106 (97106|3,97106|0) - it has different pitch with 01:36:773 (96773|0,96773|3) - i suggest you to not jack it
  3. 01:47:439 (107439|0,107439|3,107773|0,107773|3) - same reason ^
  1. 00:11:439 (11439|0) - this section has no drum sound inside, so i suggest you to delete this one
  2. 00:15:773 - 00:16:773 - the col 1 is particularly empty, i suggest you to rearrange the note again
  3. 00:17:106 (17106|1,17273|1) - 00:21:106 (21106|3,21273|3) - why you put jacks on these? i mean, the another diffs didn't use jack in that section. and it will be better if u not jack it since the star is quite to "H" icon.
  4. 00:55:106 (55106|0,55106|1,55106|3) - are u sure? triple? i think it's hard.. double is enough, but uty
  5. 01:21:273 (81273|3) - this note is way too sudden, move to col 3, thx
  6. 01:22:439 (82439|1,82439|0,82606|2,82606|3,82773|1) - it should have same pattern with 01:21:106 (81106|3,81106|1,81273|3,81439|0,81439|1) - .01:22:606 (82606|3) - delete, 01:22:773 - add 1 in 4
seems okay, sure
  1. 00:15:939 (15939|2) - change to LN for layer the violin sound? like u did before. 00:12:106 (12106|1,14106|3,14773|0) -
  2. 00:43:439 (43439|2) - the sound is same like 00:43:606 (43606|1) - i suggest you to change it to be LN. similar like 00:43:606 (43606|1) -
  3. 01:48:106 - triple note for cymbal sound? like 01:47:439 (107439|3,107439|0,107439|2,107773|0,107773|1,107773|3) -
  4. 01:55:773 - it must be triple due to snare sound.. you can move 01:55:606 (115606|2) - to col 2 for make the jack balance. and try to rearrange this 01:55:856 (115856|2,115939|0,116023|1) - if you gonna triple the snare sound. My suggest 01:55:439 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6043340


no apply all = no kds. gl all
Critical_Star

arcwinolivirus wrote:

[CS' 4K Normal]
00:10:939 (10939|0,11273|1) - change to single note as it feels inconsistent since there are no 1/2 long sound occured beside the raising long sound. Even other difficulties and 7K Normal didn't add mini-LNs here.

00:19:773 - add note as you added a note with a similar kick sound at 00:13:106 (13106|1) - not to mention there's a marble-clash like sound occured here as well. 7K Normal has a note here.

00:32:106 (32106|2,32439|1,32773|0) - move one column to right which gives more clearer sight and more comfortable execution of the pattern.

01:03:856 (63856|3,64023|1) - Suggesting to remove. This is the spike of this difficulty and I find it also hard as it is like an HD-like note pattern. Removing the 1/4 will reduce the spike. 7K Normal doesn't have 1/4 in this part. sorry but i wanted to keep this, i don't think a short 1/4 would be hard for normal diff and it play nicely to me

01:05:189 (65189|1,65356|2) - ^

01:21:106 (81106|1) - move to 1 since 01:20:439 (80439|1,80773|1,81106|1,81439|1) -

01:45:439 (105439|3) - change to LN? as it really feels empty before 01:46:106 - and 7K Normal did the LN as well. If decided to add, you might want to change 01:46:106 (106106|1) - to LN as well until 01:46:439 - which is same as 7K Normal. cool but i think i would make a space here instead long note

01:49:773 - add note to 4, consistent snare like 01:51:106 (111106|0) - my intention not to map snare with LN flow here i only map where i think is much comfortable for this part

01:52:439 - ^^

01:56:023 (116023|0) - move to 3 so it can make a mini-stair pattern that is comfortable to hit.

02:00:439 - add note for snare. ^

02:05:773 - ^ and there is a synth sound here.^
thanks acwin, no reply = fixed ;)

Ochasan wrote:

OK


CS' 4K Normal
00:38:273 (38273|2,38606|2,38773|3) maybe you can rearrange them for avoid jack instead this is most balanced pattern i could do here
01:04:773 - 01:05:273 i don't know how to fix this part, can you rearrange them for a better future lol for better future
01:51:273 - 01:51:604 - 01:53:939 - 01:54:250 - 01:55:106 - 02:01:939 you can add note for following bass "dub - dass" nope, i prefer to follow the LN flow here better
01:55:939 (115939|3,116023|0,116106|1) please make this stairs for better pattern fixed at arwin mod
thanks owo

Adot wrote:

M4M
hi Soragami, CS, and Shinzo >.< hi!

'kay, let's go to pattern
|1|2|3|4|

this map is pretty good, maybe i just give few mods


  1. 00:11:439 (11439|0) - this section has no drum sound inside, so i suggest you to delete this one
  2. 00:15:773 - 00:16:773 - the col 1 is particularly empty, i suggest you to rearrange the note again
  3. 00:17:106 (17106|1,17273|1) - 00:21:106 (21106|3,21273|3) - why you put jacks on these? i mean, the another diffs didn't use jack in that section. and it will be better if u not jack it since the star is quite to "H" icon. it fit the sound better here by placing them into a same column, i don't really think this is hard for normal diff to play
  4. 00:55:106 (55106|0,55106|1,55106|3) - are u sure? triple? i think it's hard.. double is enough, but uty this is just to differentiate the loud crash sound compared to those double snare + bass here
  5. 01:21:273 (81273|3) - this note is way too sudden, move to col 3, thx same sound same column
  6. 01:22:439 (82439|1,82439|0,82606|2,82606|3,82773|1) - it should have same pattern with 01:21:106 (81106|3,81106|1,81273|3,81439|0,81439|1) - .01:22:606 (82606|3) - delete, 01:22:773 - add 1 in 4 like before ^
thanks adot :3


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320,192,118439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,118773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,119106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,119439,128,0,119773:0:0:0:0:
64,192,119439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,119773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,119773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,119939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,120106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,120106,128,0,120606:0:0:0:0:
64,192,120606,128,0,120939:0:0:0:0:
320,192,120939,128,0,121106:0:0:0:0:
192,192,121106,128,0,121273:0:0:0:0:
64,192,121273,128,0,121439:0:0:0:0:
448,192,121439,128,0,121773:0:0:0:0:
192,192,121773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,121939,128,0,122106:0:0:0:0:
64,192,122273,128,0,122439:0:0:0:0:
448,192,122439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,122606,128,0,123273:0:0:0:0:
320,192,122606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,122773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,122773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,123273,128,0,123773:0:0:0:0:
448,192,123773,128,0,124106:0:0:0:0:
192,192,124106,128,0,124273:0:0:0:0:
320,192,124273,128,0,124439:0:0:0:0:
64,192,124439,128,0,124606:0:0:0:0:
192,192,124606,128,0,124939:0:0:0:0:
448,192,124939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,125106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,125273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,125439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,125439,128,0,126439:0:0:0:0:
64,192,125939,128,0,126439:0:0:0:0:
192,192,126439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,126606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,126773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,126773,128,0,127273:0:0:0:0:
320,192,127273,128,0,127773:0:0:0:0:
448,192,127773,128,0,128106:0:0:0:0:
64,192,127773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,127939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,128106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,128106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,128273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,128439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,128606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,128773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,128773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,128939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,129106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,129273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,129439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,129439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,129773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,129773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,130106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,130106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,130439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,130439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,130773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,130773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,130939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,131106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,131273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,131439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,131606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,131773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,132106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,132439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,132773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,133106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,133439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,133606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,133773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,133939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,134106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,134273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,134439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,134773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,135439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,136106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,136273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,136439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,136606,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,136773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,136939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,137106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,137439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,138106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,138773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,139439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,140106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,140439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,140773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
-SoraGami-

arcwinolivirus wrote:

"Arcwinolivirus' M4M-only contract"

A contract to be fulfilled as exchange of mod.


Song: ETIA. - Enkan no Kotowari (-SoraGami-)
Number of difficulties modded in my map: 8 - 4K Easy, 4K Normal, 4K Hard, 4K Insane, 7K Easy, 7K Normal, 7K Hard, 7K Insane


Note:
• First of all, I would want to apologize if I ever say something that will hurt your feelings as a mapper. Remember that I only want to give advices, suggestions, recommendations and sideas for some improvement in your map. Please do understand and thank you.

• do not be afraid to reject some parts of my mod. I am not perfect and I am not always right. But I do give my best to mod with sense. Also, I do not bite rawr.

• If I suggest to "remove or ctrl function moves" on certain note/s, dont forget and be sure to move the hitsound on the other note beside the suggested note.


[General]
Audio: OK!
BG: OK!
BPM: OK!
Offset: OK!
Preview Time: OK!

AiMod:
• Tags conflict in CS' 4K Normal, must fix.
• Break time in Shin's difficulty.
Column:
_ _ _ _
4K - |1|2|3|4|
[4K Beginner]
00:14:439 - add note here similar kick sound to 00:13:106 (13106|0) - . Also it has a piano-like sound similar to 00:14:106 (14106|3) - if you will listen carefully. Adding a note here will also complete the flow of 1/1 measures, without feeling off. You decide. i mainly follow what sound is actually loud and also to vary its pattern to 00:17:106 where it has loud kick:
there are actually 3 sections:
- 00:12:106 to 00:14:773 -
- 00:14:773 to 00:17:439 - (you can notice that this section is the only one that has note in here 00:17:106 cuz of loud kick)
- 00:17:439 to 00:20:106 -


00:19:773 - ^ same^

00:38:106 (38106|3) - move to 1? so it can be differ to 00:38:439 (38439|1,38606|2,38773|3) - okay~

01:18:439 - add note, same reason as 1st. same reason

01:23:773 - ^ same reason

01:25:273 (85273|3) - This LN feels off as it starts early before the 1/4th melody. Suggesting to make it a single note and can be even double note since ending sound. After that, add LN at 01:25:606 - where LN fits for that continuous melody. It is done in CS' difficulty. You decide. owo nice catch

02:09:773 - add note to 3 just like you did at 02:09:439 (129439|1) - and like you did on 7K Beginner since strong sounds cymbals. okay~

02:10:106 - ^ to 1 okay~


02:10:439 - ^ to 4 okay~




[4K Hyper]
00:11:606 - add note to 4 since piano sound and seems better if piano notes ended there. i want players to focus more on the sustain sound and to make difference with another diff

00:16:106 (16106|1) - move to 4, so it can be same as 00:13:439 (13439|3,13439|0) - which fits for that snare-like sound. too crowded on the right side it will go to a 4-3-4-3-4 pattern on the right which i really want to avoid since it doesnt give me good feels

00:21:773 - suggesting http://puu.sh/qPdjC/37328b83cd.jpg will keep it, i feel more good at 00:21:773 (21773|3,21939|1,21939|2,21939|0) for the flow
• Comfortable pattern, hand balanced.
• The last note fits on column 4 pressed by right middle finger since there's a hold on right hand middle finger on column 1.

01:00:773 (60773|2,60773|0,60939|1,60939|3,61106|3,61106|2) - ctrl H feels more comfortable and not stressing right hand. nice~

02:08:606 (128606|1) - move to 3 so there won't be too much on left 02:08:273 (128273|0,128439|1,128439|0,128606|1) - fixed~



[4K Another]
00:11:606 - add note to 4 for piano. feel off for me, since the presence of the sustain sound is too much

00:15:439 (15439|0,15439|1,15606|1,15773|2,15773|3,15939|0,15939|2,16106|0,16106|1) - seems awkward to play imo.Suggesting to rearrange. rearranged~

00:21:773 (21773|3) - remove, no additional sound occured here, its just a synth like 00:22:106 (22106|1) - for melody to differ it's loudness with 00:22:106 (22106|1) also i think it gives more impact

01:45:356 - add note to 3 since same kick sound as others. the impact from 02:00:939 (120939|3) onwards feels more heavy so i keep it single to vary make them differ

02:00:273 (120273|2,120439|2,120606|2,120773|2) - rearrange some note here as this part feels off. Make it similar to 02:04:273 (124273|2,124439|1,124439|3,124439|0,124523|2,124606|1,124689|0,124773|3,124773|1,124856|2) - which is quite comfortable. nice catch~
Column:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
7K - |1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
[7K Beginner]
00:14:439 - same suggestion on 4K Beginner. Adding a note will also give a complete feeling for the kick sound. same reason

00:19:773 - ^ same

00:44:606 (44606|1) - move to 3, seems better on index finger and also not repeating after 00:44:106 (44106|1) - . It also fits along with 00:45:106 (45106|4,45439|6) - and will result similar to 00:49:939 (49939|2) - okay~

01:03:023 (63023|4,63023|2,63273|1,63273|5) - ctrl J, more comfortable and fits along with the pitch. nice~

01:05:439 (65439|1) - move to 1 for clearer vision and can be similar to 01:06:106 (66106|0) - which has a cymbal sound as well. i think it is better to keep the patterns symmetrical since the others are too... and also making the impact vary with 01:06:106 (66106|0)

01:18:439 - add note, same suggestion on 4K Beginner. same

01:23:773 - ^ same

01:58:439 (118439|1) - move to 1 as counter part of 01:57:439 (117439|4,117773|6) - fixed~



[7K Normal]
00:18:106 (18106|4,18439|5,18606|4) - move to 4 | 5 | 6 respectively for clearer and neat pattern which is comfortable to play. fixed~

00:30:939 (30939|3) - remove? sudden note here without any kick sound. Also if I assume this is for the synth, it seems inconsistent as you didn't add synth sound on like 00:24:606 - . If assumed piano, same off feeling as you didn't add note at 00:25:939 - . Quite complicated with just a single note haha. really? ;w; lol mm.. i dont think so, i thought it would be nice to emphasize the patterns also there has a "can" sound xD i might reconsider this

01:04:106 (64106|1,64106|6,64106|0) - remove one note since no additional strong sound occured here and same sound as 01:04:356 (64356|2,64356|3,64606|4,64606|6,64773|1,64773|0) - yah your right but to be consistent with cymbals for triples i only make it triples for the starting point and doubles in the others to not make it hard just like 01:02:773

01:19:939 (79939|0,80106|1) - swap column for smoother pattern. okay~

01:45:439 (105439|6) - remove? as the 01:46:106 (106106|1,106106|2) - is only double with the same sound. If not removed, might want to add at 01:46:106 - removed

To be honest, I already want to call this as Hard since its already on border line haha. Hardest 7K Normal imo. lol yah xD



[7K Hyper]
00:11:606 - add note for piano though you can also add singles on 00:11:773 - and 00:11:939 - since there are piano's as well. feels off to me.. since the sustain sound gives off too much presence

00:22:606 (22606|4) - move to 4 for comfortability. i feel more comfortable at 4

01:02:106 (62106|5) - move to 1? seems kinda off since 01:01:939 (61939|4,61939|6,62106|1,62106|5) - it kinda break hand balance...

01:05:106 (65106|1) - move to 7 so it can match along with 01:04:773 (64773|0,64773|1,64939|2,64939|3) - and much better start for the stair. okay~



[Overall]
As I said back then when I test played this song, really cool stuff here and with the complete difficulties? its more awesome now~

Thank you so much for the contract, Good luck and until next time~

Please vote here as feedback for my M4M modding performance: t/372334

~ END OF CONTRACT ~
Thank you so much Arc~ :D

Ochasan wrote:

OK

NM Req from Ocha's Kwiuwik

so late............

code = 1|2|3|4

General
4K Beginner
OD change to 7, you can check that on AiMod

7K Beginner
OD change to 7, you can check that on AiMod

CS' 4K Normal
conflict tags with all diff

All Diff
tags : Ctritical_Star? owo aaaaa sorry ;w;

C "t" r i t i c a l

4K Beginner
00:13:273 (13273|2,13439|1) make this to stairs for newbie read, you can rearrange another notes to for that
00:15:773 (15773|2,15939|0) ^
00:17:273 (17273|0,17439|2) ^
00:46:939 (46939|3,47106|1) ^
00:52:106 (52106|1,52273|2) ^
01:04:773 (64773|3,64939|2) ^
01:17:273 (77273|2,77439|1) ^
01:22:439 (82439|1,82606|2) ^ rearranged some
00:51:773 (51773|3) LN is note recomended for this difficulty, change that what do you mean? xD
02:20:773 (140773|3) move to col 1 for good place ^_^ for pitch sorry

4K Hyper
00:54:773 (54773|0) you can change this to LN for 00:54:939 effect i think the moment of where the song stop is more better imo
01:37:439 (97439|1) ^ same
01:31:773 (91773|3,91939|3,92106|3) some little jack here the pattern still works fine so i think it is ok

4K Another
good already


DONE!!!
OWO
bye~
Thanks Ocha~ :D

Adot wrote:

M4M
hi Soragami, CS, and Shinzo >.<

'kay, let's go to pattern
|1|2|3|4|

this map is pretty good, maybe i just give few mods

  1. 01:08:439 (68439|1,68773|3) - ctrl+H then move to col 1, 01:09:773 (69773|0,70106|2) - ctrl + H then move to col 2, to make more variety patterns in this section fixed in other way
  2. 01:37:106 (97106|3,97106|0) - it has different pitch with 01:36:773 (96773|0,96773|3) - i suggest you to not jack it it has same actually
  3. 01:47:439 (107439|0,107439|3,107773|0,107773|3) - same reason ^ same
seems okay, sure
  1. 00:15:939 (15939|2) - change to LN for layer the violin sound? like u did before. 00:12:106 (12106|1,14106|3,14773|0) - the violin sound is not that solid that can make it a main violin synth something like that xD
  2. 00:43:439 (43439|2) - the sound is same like 00:43:606 (43606|1) - i suggest you to change it to be LN. similar like 00:43:606 (43606|1) - no i followed the main violin that was same like before
  3. 01:48:106 - triple note for cymbal sound? like 01:47:439 (107439|3,107439|0,107439|2,107773|0,107773|1,107773|3) - it has no kick sound like the others it has only snare
  4. 01:55:773 - it must be triple due to snare sound.. you can move 01:55:606 (115606|2) - to col 2 for make the jack balance. and try to rearrange this 01:55:856 (115856|2,115939|0,116023|1) - if you gonna triple the snare sound. My suggest 01:55:439 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6043340 i want this to be more comfortable so ill keep it double ^^


no apply all = no kds. gl all
Thanks Adot~ :D

will update later~
Thank you so much guys for the mod :D
Suzuko-P
omg dat stars xD
Topic Starter
-SoraGami-

Suzuko-P wrote:

omg dat stars xD
hahaha yeh xD
Thanks for the star Suzuko :D
17VA
[7K Normal]

00:36:773 (36773|2,36939|3) - move +1 columns becuz of 00:36:439 (36439|4,36439|1) -

01:01:273 (61273|1,61439|5) - move 1,7

01:25:106 (85106|3,85273|2) - move 3,5 symmetrically

01:31:939 (91939|4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013773 this pattern is more suitable here imo.



[7K Hyper]

01:00:606 - how about symmetry drum stream?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013750

01:26:439 - According to piano scales, I think this arrangement is more better. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013759



[4K Another]

00:11:439 (11439|3) - how about add piano/winds here? - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013743

01:54:106 (114106|2) - move 2 for balance

[shin's 7K Another]

00:11:773 - and 00:11:939 - has wind sounds. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013695 how about this?

00:22:439 - this arrangements looks more better : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013698

00:24:439 - add, strong sounds.

00:25:106 - ^

00:27:106 -

00:27:773 -

00:33:439 - ~ 00:33:773 - has 1/4 rhythms, how about add notes like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013700

00:38:773 - ^

00:44:939 - add 3,5 for drum. too strong drums to skip

00:46:273 - ^

00:47:606 - add space for drum.

00:48:106 - ^

00:48:606 - ^

00:48:939 -^

00:49:439 - ~ same, 00:54:439 (54439|5) - move to space for balance

01:25:773 - add piano notes here. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013713

01:37:273 - more natural drum stream - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013721

02:05:439 - strong beat, add space note.
Topic Starter
-SoraGami-

arcwinolivirus wrote:

"Arcwinolivirus' M4M-only contract"

A contract to be fulfilled as exchange of mod.


Song: ETIA. - Enkan no Kotowari (-SoraGami-)
Number of difficulties modded in my map: 8 - 4K Easy, 4K Normal, 4K Hard, 4K Insane, 7K Easy, 7K Normal, 7K Hard, 7K Insane


Note:
• First of all, I would want to apologize if I ever say something that will hurt your feelings as a mapper. Remember that I only want to give advices, suggestions, recommendations and sideas for some improvement in your map. Please do understand and thank you.

• do not be afraid to reject some parts of my mod. I am not perfect and I am not always right. But I do give my best to mod with sense. Also, I do not bite rawr.

• If I suggest to "remove or ctrl function moves" on certain note/s, dont forget and be sure to move the hitsound on the other note beside the suggested note.


[General]
Audio: OK!
BG: OK!
BPM: OK!
Offset: OK!
Preview Time: OK!

AiMod:
• Tags conflict in CS' 4K Normal, must fix.
• Break time in Shin's difficulty.



[Shin's 7K Another]
Take note that I used 4K Another as reference for those notes additions for consistency.

00:01:939 - add note to 4 since piano + melody sound ok, also made it single on the next note for consistency

00:02:606 - add note, sound here pretty sure, shin accented the second piano sounds here 00:02:773 (2773|1,2939|2) etc.. based on why he mapped it

00:03:439 - ^ to 1 ^

00:05:106 - add note

00:05:273 - add note

00:06:106 - ^

00:07:773 - ^

00:07:939 - ^ up to here, same reason

00:09:273 (9273|3) - remove, inaudible sound. 4K Another do not have note at here. okay

00:11:773 - and 00:11:773 - would be good if note for piano here as well, you can even make Stair-LN for that. i think it doesnt fit in the increasing wumbling sound

00:12:273 - add note for the hihat / piano sounds. from what i heard there's no hihat sound here, in this part pretty sure shin only mapped the hihat, kick, and snare, same goes for the mods below

00:12:939 - ^

00:14:273 - ^

00:14:939 - ^

00:15:606 - ^

00:18:273 - ^

00:19:606 - ^

00:20:273 - ^

00:20:939 - ^

00:21:273 (21273|4) - move to 5 for more comfortable and smooth pattern. 6 maybe? because it's already on 5, moved btw

00:21:773 - add note for synth okay

00:22:106 - ^ will think about this one, will try to accent to louder synth first

00:22:273 - ^ okay
00:39:106 (39106|1,39273|3) - swap column to avoid 00:38:773 (38773|1,38939|1,39106|1) - kinda more worried on the outer flow here 00:39:273 (39273|2,39356|0,39523|1,39606|2) if i implement this

00:43:106 - add note snare + synth okay, but i think it's better to map the snares only to show the difference between sounds

00:43:439 - ^ ^

00:43:773 - ^ okay

00:44:106 - until 00:54:773 - You made this part pretty easy for Another only focusing for LN. Note for Percussion as well so it can have consistency. Take 4K Another as reference for percussions then use LN in a way that can emphasize the long sounds. will think about this one also im planning to ask for more opinions about this one

01:01:106 (61106|4,61273|4,61439|4) - rearrange okay

01:04:939 (64939|0) - ctrl H to avoid 01:04:773 (64773|0,64939|0,65106|0) - okay

01:05:439 - until 01:16:106 - break time is un-rankable if there are instruments on that breaktime. Take 4K Another as reference for it. This must be fixed. okay

01:16:273 - add note sound. this is the same like what i mentioned in the first part, also in the mods below too

01:17:606 - ^ melody sound

01:18:939 - ^

01:20:273 - ^

01:21:606 - ^

01:22:273 - ^

01:22:939 - ^

01:24:273 - ^

01:25:439 - ^

01:25:606 - and 01:25:689 - ^ fixed

01:27:689 - add note continuous flow if piano

01:27:856 - ^

01:28:689 - ^

01:28:856 - ^

01:30:356 - ^

01:30:523 - ^

01:31:356 - ^

01:31:523 - ^

01:33:023 - ^

01:34:023 - ^

01:34:189 - ^

01:35:689 - ^

01:35:856 - ^

01:36:689 - ^

01:38:273 - ^ hihat

01:44:939 (104939|0,105106|0,105273|1,105273|0,105439|1,105439|0,105606|1,105773|1,105939|1) - rearrange, it gives awkward feeling when played.

02:07:856 - add note piano

02:08:023 - ^

02:11:273 - add note just like the intro

02:11:773 - ^

02:12:773 - ^

02:14:439 - ^

02:14:606 - ^

02:15:439 - ^

02:17:106 - ^

02:17:273 - ^

02:17:439 - ^

02:17:606 - ^

02:17:773 - ^

02:17:939 - ^



[Overall]
As I said back then when I test played this song, really cool stuff here and with the complete difficulties? its more awesome now~

Thank you so much for the contract, Good luck and until next time~

Please vote here as feedback for my M4M modding performance: t/372334

~ END OF CONTRACT ~

17VA wrote:

[7K Normal]

00:36:773 (36773|2,36939|3) - move +1 columns becuz of 00:36:439 (36439|4,36439|1) - pretty fine for me tho

01:01:273 (61273|1,61439|5) - move 1,7 okay

01:25:106 (85106|3,85273|2) - move 3,5 symmetrically it fits more to the song

01:31:939 (91939|4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013773 this pattern is more suitable here imo. kinda center oriented, i want to give more weight on the right side in this case



[7K Hyper]

01:00:606 - how about symmetry drum stream?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013750 will consider this one, actually intended for it not to be symmetrical because the next measure is not also

01:26:439 - According to piano scales, I think this arrangement is more better. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013759 mmm... feels uncomfortable for me



[4K Another]

00:11:439 (11439|3) - how about add piano/winds here? - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013743 prefer not to because im trying to put emphasis between parts

01:54:106 (114106|2) - move 2 for balance feels more balance in this way because of 01:54:439 (114439|1,114606|1) -

[shin's 7K Another]

00:11:773 - and 00:11:939 - has wind sounds. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013695 how about this?

00:22:439 - this arrangements looks more better : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013698

00:24:439 - add, strong sounds.

00:25:106 - ^

00:27:106 -

00:27:773 -

00:33:439 - ~ 00:33:773 - has 1/4 rhythms, how about add notes like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013700

00:38:773 - ^

00:44:939 - add 3,5 for drum. too strong drums to skip

00:46:273 - ^

00:47:606 - add space for drum.

00:48:106 - ^

00:48:606 - ^

00:48:939 -^

00:49:439 - ~ same, 00:54:439 (54439|5) - move to space for balance

01:25:773 - add piano notes here. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013713

01:37:273 - more natural drum stream - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013721

02:05:439 - strong beat, add space note.
Thanks 17VA :D

got permission from shin for me to apply mods in his diff long time ago before he became inactive
saving shin's latest update here just in case: https://puu.sh/vq6OM.txt

will continue applying tomorrow
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