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qoot8123

Doyak wrote:

Unused green lines are not issues, as they just do nothing and don't cause any problems. There could be very slight improvement on performance but that's not worth to DQ only to fix that.
okay, thanks for your explanation!
Kurai
8-)
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Aldwych
Thanks for your kind words qoot! o/
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello, I would like to point out some difficulty issues regarding pattern length and rest moments in lower difficulties.

  • [General]
  1. 02:52:849 - please consider removing this kind of kiai break for all difficulties as it looks rather unnecessary due to its extremely short length as well as the fact that the song pace keeps constant till 03:08:581 -
  • [Kantan]
  1. From 02:35:410 to 03:22:239 - patterns are densely mapped in a consecutive manner without 4/1 breaks. You may remove 02:51:995 (23) - for a longer rest in between the pattern chain.
  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 02:37:361 to 03:08:581 - patterns are densely mapped in a consecutive manner without 2/1 breaks. I would suggest deleting 02:49:556 (35,37) - for a rest in the middle of the last kiai so that beginners could make use of it to prepare for next patterns.
  2. 02:56:142 (56) - 1/2 patterns like this are too long for this level of difficulty, so I would suggest removing this note to shorten the 1/2 pattern a bit. The current note density is in fact rather close to Muzukashii, resulting in a noticeable difficulty gap with Kantan.
  3. 03:00:044 (69) - 03:03:946 (82) - 03:05:898 (89) - same as ^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:36:385 to 01:37:361 - the shortage of rest moments exists here like Futsuu. 00:51:263 (90,92) - could be removed for a 2/1 break before the kiai starts. In this way the difficulty transition from Futsuu to Oni could also be improved.
  2. From 01:38:824 to 02:33:459 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:53:703 (299,301) - as well.
  3. From 02:35:410 to 03:31:995 - again, 03:09:068 (131) - could be removed in order to avoid continuous mapping.
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hello, I would like to point out some difficulty issues regarding pattern length and rest moments in lower difficulties.

  • [General]
  1. 02:52:849 - please consider removing this kind of kiai break for all difficulties as it looks rather unnecessary due to its extremely short length as well as the fact that the song pace keeps constant till 03:08:581 - Hmmmm no, honestly it is 2 different part since the second sequence is more intense (solo taeyeon but still same "peace" ((??!?))), a reset is here for the stars which i feel needed.
  • [Kantan]
  1. From 02:35:410 to 03:22:239 - patterns are densely mapped in a consecutive manner without 4/1 breaks. You may remove 02:51:995 (23) - for a longer rest in between the pattern chain.hhmmm ye
  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 02:37:361 to 03:08:581 - patterns are densely mapped in a consecutive manner without 2/1 breaks. I would suggest deleting 02:49:556 (35,37) - for a rest in the middle of the last kiai so that beginners could make use of it to prepare for next patterns. yes and no, i made a break but not at your point since it's not the best place to be and not consitent with kantan.
  2. 02:56:142 (56) - 1/2 patterns like this are too long for this level of difficulty, so I would suggest removing this note to shorten the 1/2 pattern a bit. The current note density is in fact rather close to Muzukashii, resulting in a noticeable difficulty gap with Kantan.
  3. 03:00:044 (69) - 03:03:946 (82) - 03:05:898 (89) - same as ^ Yes for all except the last one*

    For the rest, yes and no again, i split the 6 length patterns, but used 5 length patterns instead at different place (due to taeyeon solo vocals), you may omit the fact the last part has more peace, so i consider that i have to make a harder part, so also for the sake of final solo part and consitency overall the set 03:04:678 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - will be kept .
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:36:385 to 01:37:361 - the shortage of rest moments exists here like Futsuu. 00:51:263 (90,92) - could be removed for a 2/1 break before the kiai starts. In this way the difficulty transition from Futsuu to Oni could also be improved.
  2. From 01:38:824 to 02:33:459 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:53:703 (299,301) - as well. And ^ I dont find the utility, tbh what in the world 00:51:507 (91) in solo - would mean?
  3. From 02:35:410 to 03:31:995 - again, 03:09:068 (131) - could be removed in order to avoid continuous mapping.
    Really? fgezzefzefef
OnosakiHito
The concern risen by modder is valid considering the density between Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii. Futsuu is in said place indeed similar to Muzukashii and should due to that gain some deletions to come spreadwise a bit closer to Kantan, but also make it not too consecutive either. Additionally it is indeed questionable to have at 02:52:849 - a kiai break since the chorus does not cut here.

Good luck for further process.
Topic Starter
Aldwych
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Additionally it is indeed questionable to have at 02:52:849 - a kiai break since the chorus does not cut here.
Since it's not an unrankable issue, i don't find where it should be that questionnable, already gave my 2 cents here btw.

About futsuu spread. I'm fine with my changes since it reduce the whole length of the patterns (except the last one for explained reasons), if i keep the same intensity as the previous kiai, then i have to change the other diffs to be consistent (ofc the kantan one cannot be more intense because 1/1 stuff eh?).

Gonna upaload later on.
Okoratu
i think he means it's questionable because with the default design kiai toggling off and flashing can be really straining on the eyes because basically the entire interface changes color and then flashed up brightly again in a short period of time
Pachiru
la dq
Topic Starter
Aldwych
:eyes:

Well Okorin's argue is value.

Peppy, y u no release the taiko basic skin rework
Surono


hei, so.

da problem is fixed? me can check it again if u want.

I forget if nardo have not checked it yet
Topic Starter
Aldwych
Im' prefer having nardo's approval first :)

Edit :

Changes :
- Green point on Nardo's mod + Remove void between kiai zone
- Kantan : Added 03:06:142 (45) - in order to get a consistent final length over the diff
- Futsuu : Remade last kiai patterns in order to keep "short" patterns (max 5) but still having a dense part (like the other diff), simplyfied final pattern 03:04:678 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - in terms for lecture with ddkkddkk
Nardoxyribonucleic
Here is a follow-through mod for lower difficulties. You may kudosu this post instead of p/6044768 due to exemption.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:20:776 - you may delete this timing point as it is unused.
  2. 00:43:703 (30) - this note could be removed so as to simplify the 1/1 pattern. Current note density is quite similar to that in the kiais, lacking proper emphasis on certain parts.
  3. 01:04:190 (22) - similar to ^ , you may remove this note as well as the vocal is less significant here.
  4. 01:23:703 - same as 00:20:776 -
  5. 01:46:142 (72) - same as 00:43:703 (30) -
  6. 01:53:703 - same as 00:20:776 -
  7. 02:06:629 (101) - same as 01:04:190 (22) -
  8. 02:49:556 (20) - ^
  9. 02:51:995 (22) - I think you need to delete this note as mentioned in the previous post for a 4/1 break.
  10. 03:05:166 (41) - seven 1/1 notes are in fact quite demanding for Kantan. I would suggest moving this note to 03:07:117 - and changing to k for simplicity as well as pattern variety.
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  2. 00:54:678 (75) - you may delete this note for a better spread from Kantan to Muzukashii. Current note density is rather close to Muzukashii, causing a big gap with Kantan.
  3. 00:58:581 (85) - 01:02:483 (95) - same as ^
  4. 01:06:142 (104) - 01:07:361 (108) - same as ^ considering that you have a 4/1 break in Kantan. Then you may change 01:07:117 (106) - to k for the snare.
  5. 01:10:044 (113) - 01:11:263 (117) - 01:13:946 (123) - 01:15:166 (127) - 01:17:849 (133) - 01:19:068 (137) - same as ^
  6. 01:14:922 (125) - 01:18:824 (135) - same as 01:07:117 (106) -
  7. 01:17:605 (132) - this note could be d to cohere with 01:09:800 (112) -
  8. 01:21:751 (143) - you should remove this note at least since the difficulty jump from Kantan is too big here.
  9. 01:23:703 - sane as Kantan
  10. 01:53:703 - ^
  11. 01:57:117 (222) - 02:01:020 (232) - 02:04:922 (242) - same as 00:54:678 (75) -
  12. 02:08:581 (251) - 02:09:800 (255) - same as 01:06:142 (104) - while 02:09:556 (253) - could be changed to k.
  13. 02:12:483 (260) - 02:13:703 (264) - 02:16:385 (270) - 02:17:605 (274) - 02:20:288 (280) - 02:21:507 (284) - same as ^
  14. 02:21:263 (282) - same as 01:07:117 (106) -
  15. 02:25:410 (294) - same as 01:21:751 (143) -
  16. 02:26:142 (295) - it would be better to remove this note for a 2/1 rest after the dense kiai.
  17. 02:40:044 (9) - 02:43:946 (19) - 02:47:849 (29) - same as 00:54:678 (75) -
  18. 02:51:507 (38) - ^
  19. 02:56:629 (51) - 03:00:532 (62) - again, I think you need to remove these notes as the use of 1/2 patterns is too dense and continuous in this session.
  20. 03:04:678 (73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - eight 1/2 notes are too hard for Futsuu if you ask me. 03:05:898 (78) - should be deleted.
  21. 03:08:337 (85) - same as 02:25:410 (294) -
  22. 03:11:020 (91) - 03:12:239 (95) - 03:14:922 (101) - 03:16:142 (105) - 03:18:824 (111) - 03:20:044 (115) - same as 01:06:142 (104) -
  23. 03:15:898 (103) - 03:19:800 (113) - same as 01:07:117 (106) -
  24. 03:23:946 (125) - 03:27:849 (134) - same as 02:25:410 (294) -
  25. 03:24:678 (127) - same as 02:26:142 (295) -
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  2. 00:51:263 (90,92) - please reconsider deleting these notes for the spread's sake as well as a 2/1 rest. In fact you should not follow all vocals like Oni as this is only an intermediate difficulty, especially when you have a 3/1 break in Futsuu.
  3. 01:53:703 (299,301) - same as ^ . The big note is in fact not alone as there is a close connection among 01:53:946 (299,300) -
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  • [Inner Oni]

    HP could be 6 here for a better transition from Oni.
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
In short, Futsuu should be simplified if you want to fix the imbalanced spread among lower difficulties. You may call me back after that~ :D
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Here is a follow-through mod for lower difficulties. You may kudosu this post instead of p/6044768 due to exemption.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:20:776 - you may delete this timing point as it is unused. Done
  2. 00:43:703 (30) - this note could be removed so as to simplify the 1/1 pattern. Current note density is quite similar to that in the kiais, lacking proper emphasis on certain parts. Ok, changed the triplet to kdk due to vocals
  3. 01:04:190 (22) - similar to ^ , you may remove this note as well as the vocal is less significant here. If it's terms of vocals volume yes, but about the vocal it self it's a repetition of "Ship eun", so i felt using half of the second it a bit weird.
  4. 01:23:703 - same as 00:20:776 -
  5. 01:46:142 (72) - same as 00:43:703 (30) -
  6. 01:53:703 - same as 00:20:776 -
  7. 02:06:629 (101) - same as 01:04:190 (22) -
  8. 02:49:556 (20) - ^
  9. 02:51:995 (22) - I think you need to delete this note as mentioned in the previous post for a 4/1 break. Yep, good point
  10. 03:05:166 (41) - seven 1/1 notes are in fact quite demanding for Kantan. I would suggest moving this note to 03:07:117 - and changing to k for simplicity as well as pattern variety. Hmmm ok. Let's on futsuu about this part then
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  2. 00:54:678 (75) - you may delete this note for a better spread from Kantan to Muzukashii. Current note density is rather close to Muzukashii, causing a big gap with Kantan. Fine
  3. 00:58:581 (85) - 01:02:483 (95) - same as ^ ^ + Changed 00:58:337 (84) - as d
  4. 01:06:142 (104) - 01:07:361 (108) - same as ^ considering that you have a 4/1 break in Kantan. Then you may change 01:07:117 (106) - to k for the snare. Yep
  5. 01:10:044 (113) - 01:11:263 (117) - 01:13:946 (123) - 01:15:166 (127) - 01:17:849 (133) - 01:19:068 (137) - same as ^ If posible i want to keep 01:19:068 (137) - because of the context (well it's about dance context because on their clip they do a faster leg move here, and i want to reproduce as this 4plet) The others are ok
  6. 01:14:922 (125) - 01:18:824 (135) - same as 01:07:117 (106) - Done
  7. 01:17:605 (132) - this note could be d to cohere with 01:09:800 (112) - Done
  8. 01:21:751 (143) - you should remove this note at least since the difficulty jump from Kantan is too big here. 01:22:727 - Deleted as well for break
  9. 01:23:703 - sane as Kantan
  10. 01:53:703 - ^
  11. 01:57:117 (222) - 02:01:020 (232) - 02:04:922 (242) - same as 00:54:678 (75) -
  12. 02:08:581 (251) - 02:09:800 (255) - same as 01:06:142 (104) - while 02:09:556 (253) - could be changed to k.
  13. 02:12:483 (260) - 02:13:703 (264) - 02:16:385 (270) - 02:17:605 (274) - 02:20:288 (280) - 02:21:507 (284) - same as ^
  14. 02:21:263 (282) - same as 01:07:117 (106) -
  15. 02:25:410 (294) - same as 01:21:751 (143) -
  16. 02:26:142 (295) - it would be better to remove this note for a 2/1 rest after the dense kiai.
  17. 02:40:044 (9) - 02:43:946 (19) - 02:47:849 (29) - same as 00:54:678 (75) -
  18. 02:51:507 (38) - ^
  19. 02:56:629 (51) - 03:00:532 (62) - again, I think you need to remove these notes as the use of 1/2 patterns is too dense and continuous in this session.
  20. 03:04:678 (73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - eight 1/2 notes are too hard for Futsuu if you ask me. 03:05:898 (78) - should be deleted.
  21. 03:08:337 (85) - same as 02:25:410 (294) -
  22. 03:11:020 (91) - 03:12:239 (95) - 03:14:922 (101) - 03:16:142 (105) - 03:18:824 (111) - 03:20:044 (115) - same as 01:06:142 (104) -
  23. 03:15:898 (103) - 03:19:800 (113) - same as 01:07:117 (106) -
  24. 03:23:946 (125) - 03:27:849 (134) - same as 02:25:410 (294) -
  25. 03:24:678 (127) - same as 02:26:142 (295) -
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  2. 00:51:263 (90,92) - please reconsider deleting these notes for the spread's sake as well as a 2/1 rest. In fact you should not follow all vocals like Oni as this is only an intermediate difficulty, especially when you have a 3/1 break in Futsuu. efezfzefzefe :(
  3. 01:53:703 (299,301) - same as ^ . The big note is in fact not alone as there is a close connection among 01:53:946 (299,300) -
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
  • [Inner Oni]

    HP could be 6 here for a better transition from Oni.
  1. 00:20:776 - same as Kantan
In short, Futsuu should be simplified if you want to fix the imbalanced spread among lower difficulties. You may call me back after that~ :D

Bleh bleh bleh, if i didn't respond it's because i've no objection and it's changed.
Rip loli train
Nardoxyribonucleic
The overall spread from Kantan to Muzukashii looks better now. There are sufficient number of breaks in lower difficulties as well.

Rebubbled~
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Surono wrote:



hei, so.
Here we go :3
Surono
a r r e s t e d

soweoneul malhae bwa, Im Bi eiN for ya boi (come on)
soweoneul malhae bwa, Im Bi eiN for wish
soweoneul malhae bwa, Im Bi eiN for ya dream
naegeman malhae bwa, Im Bi eiN for ya wrold
Lilyanna
Nice kpop taiko :D
Aurele
welcome back, map~
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Aldwych
I'm Genie for yaoi

Wait... :thinking:
HeatKai
gg jessica
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Aldwych
i cri everytiem
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