1. Futsuu (2.18 stars, 236 notes)
2. Inner Oni (5.1 stars, 847 notes)
3. Kantan (1.45 stars, 148 notes)
4. Muzukashii (3.27 stars, 444 notes)
5. Oni (4.4 stars, 660 notes)

Prophecy
guro
Vulkin
Nifty
katacheh
Raphalge
lilligantEX

Prophecy wrote:

Check~ I will point out some major issue that really affect the mapset.

[General]
►Kantan is disappeared, consider to make one
►Check the spread issue, Futsuu ---------------- Muzu --------- Oni -------- Inner hm.. Probably boost Futsuu and then add a 2*- Kantan then..
►Setting is fine.

[Futsuu]
►00:05:388 - add a note here, following BG music :3 and as you mapped 00:19:721 (16,17) - this is for low-pitch piano which is absent here
►00:09:721 - this note is quite questionable, see above, this is for low-pitch piano
►00:14:721 (11,12,13,14) - overuse of kat, make some don instead. ok
►02:08:387 - Spinner suggested, Start from here to 02:12:387 - I guess no, I prefer a cleaner end

[Muzu]
►Skipping this difficulties.
►02:08:387 - Spinner suggested, Start from here to 02:12:387 -

[Oni]
►Remove widescreen Support. done
►The gap between Inner is a little bit big, and you used different mapping style with the Inner, as you can check the first note.
►01:54:387 (199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) - same as Inner
►01:55:053 - Remove finisher if you applied the 01:54:387 issue. ok
►01:51:053 (190) - slider -> 1/4 notes This sound is 1/6. Putting 1/4 here sounds awkward. Keeping
►01:59:887 - Ctrl+G, the pitch is different. ok
►02:05:720 - why you empty here :O continuing the piano would lose emphasis because previously there is two piano sounds, now absent. And there is no more other sounds
►02:08:387 - Spinner suggested, Start from here to 02:12:387 -



[Inner Oni]
►00:02:721 (1) - compare with Oni, you put a kat in Inner but a don in Oni, maybe don better. sure
►00:12:888 (60,61,62,63,64,65) - overuse of 1/4, we don't need to use this in the very beginning with no reason. indeed, there is a 1/4 piano there, let see if there are any other modder complain
►01:51:053 (725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743) - 1/6 is fine but it is hard to hit a monotone color one, I think a slider/spinner or just simply cut it or just 1/4, it is better than that you've mapped here.
►01:54:387 (753,754,755,756,757,758,759) - We seldom use this pattern, usually we use dddddddk <- like this, that mean add a don 01:54:970. sure
►01:55:053 (760) - Remove finisher if you applied the 01:54:387 issue. ok
►01:59:887 (779,780) - Ctrl+G, the pitch is different. ok
►02:08:387 - Spinner suggested, Start from here to 02:12:387 -

guro wrote:

M4M train coming through

First of all, I've included some pictures to give you a different perspective on different parts of the map. Feel free to get some inspiration off of them, but try to avoid copying the exact patterns (if they are even that good ). After all it's your map and I'm just using them to illustrate my thoughts

[Kantan]

I'd suggest lowering the SV to 1.2. Super optional, but 180BPM + 1.4 SV might be too much for the average Kantan player hm... I guess its fine? May change if other modders complain

Another rather general thing is what you chose to map on this difficulty. The beginning part up to 00:10:721 (5) - seems fine to me, but the most of the rest up to 00:26:721 (20) - feels rather confusing to me. It's not wrong, by all means, but I think it's a bit 'too creative' for a Kantan. I recommend staying at more basic stuff, such as
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at 00:08:054 (3,4,5,6,7) - , for example.
Atleast in Kantan I would suggest sticking with the piano before the drums set in at 00:26:721 (22) - . It will be a lot easier to read as a beginner.
Mapping 1/1s and 2/1s for like half of the song is super boring imo. Even in Kantan I don't want to do that .I am putting notes on the beginning of each prominent sound of the main.

00:26:721 (20,21,22,23) - could be made a bit simpler as well. A way to achieve that would be something along these lines That's definitely too hard for Kantan, no change


00:30:721 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - instead of the d k d k d k d, you could also go k d d k k d d. That's super optional though and probably just my personal aversion towards alternating d k stuff speaking. d k k d k k d instead

00:35:721 (31,32,33) - I'd change that one aswell, maybe even something like that This looks strange to me, keeping


Don't forget to adjust the slider at 01:51:053 (128) - if you changed the SV! I don't change the SV so this doesn't apply

The rest seems fine to me

[Futsuu]

00:30:388 (26) - this part comes way too sudden imo. I'd adjust 00:27:721 (23,24,25) - to be a bit more dense as a preparation for what's coming

something like this maybe Used some other patterns instead

00:34:721 (38,39,40,41) - maybe dense this one up a bit more aswell. ^

could do the trick. However, if you choose to do something like that, I recommend removing the note at 00:38:388 (42) -

[Muzukashii]
The beginning part seems fine to me

00:50:054 (135,136,137,138) - does not though. It ends way to early but you also can't pull it the entire way through. I can't really find a solution other than having it blank (which is horrible), adding a slider or a spinner. used a slider instead

The most part starting from 00:55:888 (155) - is plain too dense. I can't really give much advise, other than suggesting to rework it and stick to simpler things and using the 1/4 quintuplets more sparingly. The kiai has way too many triplets, to be honest. There's also a sudden drop in density at 01:42:053 (134) - that doesn't feel right. Mostly I am mapping to the main for all those. hm.... Maybe other modders would have better idea

[Oni]
Has basically the same problem like the Muzu imo.
The beginning part is just right, but it gets too dense with many 1/4 that feel way too forced. I guess your best bet would be to remove some circles.

[Inner Oni]
Has similar problems like the previous two difficulties and I guess there's nothing much to add to what I said earlier.

Good luck

Vulkin wrote:

Sorry for taking so long, better finish these mods asap, gotta do so much irl lol (yea that explains why i dont put that many reasons orz)

d=don(regular red)
k=kat(regular blue)
D=big don(big red (don with finisher)
K=big kat(big blue (kat with finisher)

-General-

Try using this timing snap setup, sounds way better sure

-Kantan-
Seems pretty empty imo, i know 4/1 are spaces are needed, but bpm180 seems to be low enough imo, idk you decide
00:42:388 - Add a K sure
00:46:721 (45) - Make it D for consistency with 00:42:721 (41) - ok
00:54:388 - add a k ok

-Futsuu-
00:25:721 - Could add a k here ok
00:50:054 (78) - Delete, too short for a futsuu imo ok

-Muzukashii-
00:55:888 - Pattern a bit too long? possibly, deleted some notes in the middle
01:12:054 - Over here try using ddd d, same for the following ddddd I think it should be ok, as this is isolated
01:28:387 - Isnt this a bit too complex for Muzukashii players? maybe, cut some notes then (And how come SR actually increases after deleting notes

Welp imma continue this later, gotta go do something irl sorry orz

Vulkin wrote:

OK, Time to return to modding ^^
(Dont give Kudosu to this one, since i already got it from the first post)

-Oni-
01:29:137 (53,54) - Ctrl+G so the k end up hitting the piano notes :3 ok
01:30:137 (61) - Move to 01:30:054 - , sounds better imo there are no sound there in the song, keeping

-Inner Oni-
Its pretty good :3

Good luck on the map!

Nifty wrote:

I'm gonna try to mod this, ye. From my Q.

- Futsuu -

00:30:388 - This is too dense to me, cut down. Even if they're 1/1, the song's bpm is pretty high. ok
00:42:388 (60) - d, a kdd at this tempo is too difficult. ok
00:42:554 (61) - after ^, you may want to delete this because bns may think these notes count as 1/4 at this tempo, and ddD may conflict with the TRC: The note prior the finisher note must be of the opposite color. ok
00:43:554 (64) - K, plays nice with the patterns coming up, and four D's in a row is unattractive in a map (to me at least). changed both to K
Rest is good ^^

- Muzukashii -

00:21:721 (37) - k, follows the music better (high pitches) sure
00:28:388 (55,56) - ctrl-g, fits better to the music (high note k to low notes d d) ok
00:29:388 (58) - k, ^ (higher note than the k following, but it's a d?) ok
01:24:220 - delete this, too dense for a muzu. Replace with 1/2 spaced d and k dropped the middle note instead
01:26:387 - ^
01:27:387 - ^
01:34:887 - ^
01:35:887 - ^
01:37:053 - ^ (I obviously like this pattern more)
01:38:053 - ^
01:39:720 - replace with d d (congestion)
01:40:887 - replace with d k all done
01:52:887 (152,153) - change to k, because all the notes after are d and the d's get tiring sure

Hope I could help a little ^^
Also sry for short mod.

katacheh wrote:

Hi~ NM Explosion!

mod

Timing :

1. 建議全部的offset-22 原本的打起來真的不太對好的
   
2. 下面mod的時間點是原本的 timing要改的話先看完下面的mod

Oni :

1. 00:42:054 - 和00:42:221 - 都加d 因為有鼓聲 好的
   
2. 01:12:054 (311,312,313,314,315) - kkkkk 聽起來音調較高 這樣打起來比較合 好的[/v]
3. 01:13:054 (319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326) - ddd kkkkk
4. 01:14:054 (327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - kkk kkd kkkkk
5. 01:15:388 (338,339,340,341,342,343) - kkk kkd[b]全部也改了一些
   
6. 01:17:388 (356,357,358,359) - D kkk 這樣
7. 01:18:054 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368) - D kkk k D kkk ^
8. 01:19:388 (369,370,371,372) - D kkk ^ 全也改完了

Inner oni :

1. 00:50:499 (259,260) - 換成d k的感覺比較合 好的，改改~
   
2. 01:12:054 (375,376,377,378,379) - kkkkk 因為音調比較高
3. 01:13:388 (388,389,390,391,392) - kkkkk ^
4. 01:14:554 (399,400,401,402,403,404,405) - ddkkkkk ^
5. 01:17:388 (429,430,431,432,433) - kkkkk ^
6. 01:18:721 (440,441,442,443,444) - kkkkk ^
7. 01:20:554 (456,457,458,459,460) - kdkkk 全再看過改好了

祝RK

Raphalge wrote:

hi from queue!

[General]
Slider velocity is bugged in Kantan and Inner Oni, check the .osu files for all diffs and make sure this is exactly 1.4 it looks fine to me, it is possible that I forgot to upload or anything ok you meant the text file

[Kantan]
pls buff HP drain, 4 is way too low for Kantan and Futsuu due to the low number of notes. ok

00:30:699 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - having the notes on these ticks feels a bit off when playing, maybe change it to something like this? ok
00:40:032 (36) - I suggest moving this to 00:39:699 - if you accept the previous suggestion
00:40:366 - add a note here and change 00:41:699 (40) - to d? all done
00:47:532 (47) - change to K?sure
00:50:699 (50) - change to k?ok
00:50:699 - to 00:58:699 (59) - feels very weird, kantans are supposed to follow the clearest sound available, and I really don't think the voilin is the clearest one, so I suggest you re-map it a bit to make it clearer Tried mapping the main instead but star rating then skyrockets
01:11:698 - add note? feels a bit empty without one ok
01:14:365 - ^ good spot for another note, alternatively you can put one at 01:16:365 (79) - if you dont like the other spot add the latter one

Kiai feels pretty inconsistent in terms of rhythm, I don't think mapping to the piano is the best choice. Yea, but blame star rating...

01:34:031 (103) - K? ok
01:44:365 (117) - this part until the end is awesome

[Futsuu]
buff HP again pls

I really think you could do with adding a few more notes at the intro, cause at the moment it's exactly the same as the Kantan. Maybe add notes on the parts with 1/4 piano sounds, like at 00:20:699 (15) - ok

00:29:366 (28,29) - sounds better with ctrl+g imo pitch seems to suggest this way
00:32:032 (34) - move to 00:31:699 - and change to d? Sounds awkward dropping that pattern after 4 notes ok
00:34:699 (40,41) - move to 00:34:366 - ? ok
00:35:699 (42,43) - move to 00:35:366 - ? sounds good if you add a d at 00:36:366 - it would be different to the same rythm at 00:27:032 - , and I felt the previous one is better
00:40:032 (52) - delete? pattern feels unneccesarily long ok
00:41:699 (57) - change to d if you did the same in the Kantan no I didn't
00:44:032 - add 2 notes and remove finish from 00:43:866 (62) - ? Makes the section flow better ok
00:46:032 - same here if you remove finish from 00:45:866 (66) -
00:48:032 - add d k and remove finish from 00:47:866 (70) -
00:48:699 (71) - change to D for consistency with 00:46:699 (67,68) - All done~
00:54:032 (87) - k for consistency with 00:51:866 (78,79) - ? sure
00:56:032 - awkward gap here redid a bit here
01:02:699 (109) - k?
01:08:032 (113) - ^
01:11:366 (116) - K? all done
01:16:198 - add k? ok
01:20:866 (140) - move to and change to k? makes for more comfortable playing hm.. keeping
01:30:698 (23,24) - ctrl+g? think it sounds better ok
01:45:865 (62) - change to K? sounds alright if you change 01:48:531 (68) - to D ok
01:52:865 (76) - k? ok
02:03:698 (87,88) - ctrl+g? ok

all the diffs feel really undermapped, especially the inner oni indeed
good luck with ranking though!

lilligantEX wrote:

thx for m4m

[kantan]
kind of feels slow and undermapped compared to the actual song Or SR will just skyrocket and lose the E icon

[futsuu]
00:54:699 (95,96,97) - big notes after a lot of 1/2 notes are difficult for futsuu ok dropped a note
01:19:866 (142,143,144,145,146,147) - this rhythm is too hard for futsuu ok dropped a note and tweaked a bit
01:27:698 (13,14,15,16,17) - i feel like this rhythm is too hard too, but it should be fine if you choose not to change it dropped a note anyway
01:34:031 (31,32) - either keep as two small or big notes or remove 01:34:198 (32) - removed the note
01:38:365 (42,43,44,45,46) - same as 01:27:698 (13,14,15,16,17) - sure

[muzukashii]
00:45:866 (118,119,120,121) - 1/4 triple after big note feels too hard for muzu ok change big note to small
00:48:199 (128,129,130) - these three are the same as 00:48:032 (127) - in the song, so they should all be k instead of d the violins are different
01:19:866 (258,259,260,261) - same as 00:45:866 (118,119,120,121) - sure
01:30:698 (52,53) - shouldnt have empty space between these notes left out for difficulty reasons
02:02:365 (167) - should be d instead of k ok