Julie wrote:

The padoru avatar invasion.

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  [General]

1. I know kami mention the hitsound volume already, but while modding this, many of them are barely audible, the soft-hitnormal are mostly audible, mostly with the chord spam, but the whistle, the clap.
   You'll find some example in my mods, but like for example these clap in Normal : 00:41:624 (41624|6,41971|4,42318|4,42664|2) - , you barely hear them, maybe you won't even hear them at all. And some whistle that you try to match the drum in the higher diff, are barely audible x.x.
   argh... raise the volume again I guess?? And I just realized that the hitsound volume are completely inconsistent between diffs....
   
2. Suggestion for future map: On your hard, you should really try to find an easier rhythm, mostly on the calm part (calm part with MANY notes), they have nearly the exact same rhythm and amount of note as the highest diff, while having 10x more then the diff below.

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  [N]

1. 00:16:653 - I'm not sure if you are "strickly" matching to the pitch that it became like that, but check out 2nd and last column. https://puu.sh/yVNto/d2cf2b6757.png , feel pretty empty no?
   yes I follow pitch quite strictly in this map, so... But I moved the first note to last column anyway
   
   
2. 00:41:624 (41624|6,41971|4,42318|4,42664|2) - You're using this clap hitsound consistently on every diff, yet what happen here? Why are they place here, when there is no that "clap" sound from the song you try to fit with? The hitsound overall are super lower, which is why player probably won't feel it (which is also bad), but imagine if someone turn off hitsound, they will hear random clapping sound here that is not consistent with other difficulty and the Normal diff.
   yea I must be sleeping when redoing hitsounds for this part...
   
   
3. 01:01:740 (61740|5,62000|7,62260|5,62433|6,62693|4) - I don't know if you'll change it, but better point it out, since it might help for your future map. You're using the exact same rhythm and pattern as the higher diff, I mean for the rhythm part you probably didn't find something more simple, but patternwise you could totally have done something way more simple for beginner. Look at this pattern is all in the same hand with a different snap in the middle after a consistent 1/1 snap, totally going to trick many Normal player.
   Actually yea I decide to move a note here as I just realized that the sound is of different pitch.
   
   
4. 01:34:341 - Not sure how you manage those trills while the song is consistent. Try listening to 25%, and group some notes : 01:34:688 (94688|5,94861|3,95034|5,95208|7) - , 01:35:381 (95381|5,95555|3,95728|5,95901|3) - , 01:36:075 (96075|1,96248|2,96422|4,96595|2) - , 01:36:769 (96769|1,96942|2,97115|1,97289|3) - , etc. ok
   
   
5. 01:45:092 (105092|1,105266|3,105439|1) - Pretty sure you can play around the pattern so this 01:45:092 (105092|1) - doesn't end up the same column as 01:45:439 (105439|1,105786|1,106133|1,106479|1) - . ok
   
   
6. 01:49:601 (109601|1,110295|2) - Move one column to the right? Not sure why they have to be in the same column then 01:48:214 (108214|1,108560|1,108907|1,109254|1) - . Also there is so many empty spot. sure

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  [H]

1. 00:10:410 (10410|0) - Hmm, forgot your scratch hitsound here? xD um probably.
   
   
2. 00:19:601 (19601|2,19688|3,19774|2,19861|3) - Try to avoid this mini trill? I mean it might throw off some player, and doesn't fit the piano (even thought on 100% it will be too fast to notice). The reason I'm mentioning this, is because I see you cut your clean stair here 00:20:468 - , so pretty sure you can do something here as well 00:19:514 (19514|1,19601|2,19688|3) - .
   The hard thing is there are 8 notes in increasing pitch here, but there are only 7 space to put the notes in.... (excluding the scratch key, that is). Let's try something else, hm...
   
   
3. 00:18:127 (18127|3) - Move to the right one time, so that this pattern 00:18:040 (18040|1,18127|3,18214|5) - isn't the exact same as 00:17:693 (17693|1,17780|3,17867|5) - . Also 00:18:127 (18127|3) - have the same pitch as 00:18:474 (18474|4) - . Another reason, barely any note in that column =w= https://puu.sh/yVPyL/d4aa2ce421.png .
   sure =w= probably too fast to notice the pitch tho
   
   
   
   
   
   
   NOT DONE

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  [X]

1. 01:01:740 (61740|5) - Not sure if is intentional, but you probably want to keep these consistent. https://puu.sh/yVxrI/88be031601.png
   yes this should be consistent, not sure how I place that note in.....
   
2. 01:19:688 (79688|5,79774|4,79861|5,79861|3,79948|4,80034|5,80034|3,80121|4,80208|3,80208|5,80295|4,80381|5,80555|3,80555|5,80641|4,80728|3,80728|5,80815|4,80901|5,80901|3,80988|4,81075|5) - I understand the double stairs part, but this is quite a long trills for 2 part of the piano that have a complete different pitch. https://puu.sh/yVxE3/3df94d87fe.png
   This 01:21:162 - and 01:19:774 - , how about make these 2 similar, since the piano is similar here, instead of making this 01:19:774 - similar to this 01:20:555 - . Also 01:21:162 - have repetitif piano pattern.
   01:19:774 (79774|4,79774|6,79861|5,79861|3,79948|4,79948|6,80034|3,80034|5) - This trill, I personnally would stop it here 01:20:121 - because the piano stop repeating the same notes. I love the way you try to make lower to higher pitch here 01:20:208 (80208|3,80295|4,80381|5) - , but how about something like this for a change https://puu.sh/yVxIS/74c44d9dd6.png, you still keep the "trilly part" (Also 01:20:295 - this is a bit lower pitch then 01:20:208 - , which is why I put a note more right here.) Or you could try something else you want xP.
   lol This really takes me time to digest, and I think the issue is 01:20:555 - . Tweaked 01:21:162 - too. I am keeping 01:20:121 - because it is way more prettier and also not sure if I want to introduce ringtrills which is even harder...
   
   
3. 01:22:549 - How about give the middle column some rest here XD. https://puu.sh/yVxPy/5c2cbaba5e.png . Like you did here 01:21:942 (81942|2,81942|4,82029|3,82029|5,82115|4,82115|2) - some kind of trill due to the piano (I wish is started here 01:21:855 - like the piano thought, but anyway song going too fast to be super ultra nazi with the song xD). How about making a trill here 01:22:549 - , so it go, trill then double stair left to right to fit the fast piano pitch OwO. Suggestion : https://puu.sh/yVxSQ/b187d99bb6.png , trill isn't the same column as 01:21:855 - due to different pitch.
   probably not introducing ring trill here, tried something else seems good...
   
4. 01:33:821 (93821|1,93864|2,93907|3,93951|4,93994|1,94052|2,94110|3,94167|1,94225|2,94283|3) - Uhh, I don't know if there is a confirmation somewhere, most of the 1/3 drum that you put whistle on, mostly the middle part, I have a huuuuge trouble of hearing it from the song, I don't know if is me so it might be me, but here is what I'm hearing. I suppose you did a 1/8 here 01:33:821 (93821|1,93864|2,93907|3,93951|4) - due to the fast part, but that fast part also appear here 01:34:167 - , but you did a 1/6 here with here 01:33:994 - . I'm also not sure if I hear anything here 01:33:994 (93994|1,94052|2,94110|3) - .
   OK putting in 25% I decide it is 1/8,1/4,1/8...
   
   
5. 01:34:345 - + I suppose those double chord note are mostly place random, since I can kinda see a nearly copy pasta around this part https://puu.sh/yVygj/fa2d02cb40.png, also with a random number of jack note. I actually have an idea, I don't know if you'll have patient to maybe try it out.
   Your double chord note start doing some random jack column, 01:34:688 (94688|6,94861|6,95034|6,95208|6,95381|6) - , 01:35:381 (95381|5,95555|5,95728|5,95901|5,96075|5) - , 01:36:335 (96335|1,96508|1,96682|1,96855|1,97029|1,97202|1,97375|1) - , 01:36:422 (96422|4,96595|4,96769|4,96942|4,97115|4,97289|4) - , 01:39:196 (99196|4,99370|4,99543|4,99716|4,99890|4,100063|4,100237|4,100410|4,100584|4) - seriously is fine by me, I mean making those pattern, it will happen obviously, but how about trying something that can be a little bit more consistent. If you try to listen to it on 25% you'll be hearing the consistent really clear, follow the main melody at 01:34:688 - , then is still consistent but with different pitch 01:35:381 - , then 01:36:075 - , then 01:36:769 - , etc. And try to just make your continue jack on those section. In the end, you'll have a consistent jack spread on different kind of column, without a column being too overflow, while having your double/triple chord notes.
   No they are not random, it is trying to follow pitch, but probably because there isn't many room for this... Let me review the entire thing and try breaking up jacks

Julie wrote:

The padoru avatar invasion.

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  [H]

1. 00:24:543 (24543|3,24716|3,24977|3,25150|3) - Hmm try to use another column? 00:24:543 (24543|3,24716|3) - have different pitch then this 00:24:977 (24977|3,25150|3) - .
   ok shifted the notes a bit
   
2. 00:28:445 (28445|2) - Just mentioning in case if it was a mistake, not sure if is intentional to keep it 1/1 snap, while the main sound start here 00:28:358 - . If this is accept, might want to check your Normal diff too.
   00:31:219 (31219|3) - This too.
   I do intend to keep 1/1 snap here for difficulty reasons.
   
3. 00:58:271 - Missing a whistle here?
   yes, added
   
4. 01:12:144 - + Pretty sure you just map this section for the piano, but what about 2nd column *cough cough* https://puu.sh/yXRJg/ea1078910c.png
   ok shifted the latter section by left

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  [I]

1. 00:29:023 - Not sure if you're missing your drum here, since you map the other one in this section. sure, added
   
   
2. 00:58:271 - Missing a whistle here? done
   
   
3. 01:38:589 (98589|3) - Move this to the middle lane, 5th columns.ok

eyes wrote:

press f to pay respect

Extra diff

00:34:861 (34861|4) - sampleset should be Auto, looks like you missclicked definitely, good catch!

00:41:624 - this whole pattern is pretty cool. But I think it can be improved in terms of playability. 00:43:532 (43532|3,43705|3) - this jack can be easily avoided.
You can move 00:43:705 (43705|3) - to 1 column and start the stair by that point, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10104081 ok

00:47:173 - pitch relevance of some points of this part kinda triggers me, I think it can be improved:
00:47:173 (47173|6,49948|6) - these two are pretty close to each other, also they are on the same column but their pitch are different. If you shift the second
LN by one column to left, it will be fine. ok
00:51:335 (51335|7,52029|6,52722|5,53416|4) - pitch structure here seems to be not like stair shaped pattern, my suggestion is in this screenshot
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10104113, it will also fit with previous pointsure

01:19:081 - would be nice if you reduce hitsounds volume in this part because here is a lot of empty (by "empty" I mean that they have normal-hit hitsounds) double notes and it's really loud in compare with previous part of this kiai ok

00:43:705 - and 01:28:098 - seem to be very similar, but the second one is much easier, you might want to rearrange the second one to make it harder, it would be more appropriate for music, I think it's mapped too simple for such burst IMO I felt the latter is more difficult to really play (or I should say acc) properly

01:56:537 - I'd recommend to add some SVs for adjusting the scroll speed to make it smoother and more expectable Given the BPM changes are genuine, I would like to keep it to show the actual slowdown

Maxus wrote:

Well, as Requested.

[X]
00:09:543 (9543|7) - I think having this at col 6 is better tbh instead at col 8 which kinda makes the flow kinda weird. sure

00:15:728 (15728|5,15742|4) - Kinda similar as above, I prefer you switch column the pattern to kinda make it more linear, especially before hitting the nasty jack after this part. ok

00:18:994 (18994|4) - Try move this to col 6 to form a complete trill with 00:18:734 (18734|6,18821|5,18907|6) - to make it consistent with how you did it at 00:17:347 (17347|5,17433|4,17520|5,17607|4) - ok

00:20:728 (20728|6) - move to col 6 here cause the pitch at 00:20:901 (20901|6) - is noticeably higher. sure

00:32:607 - This looks really hard, do others can actually hit this ._.? Actually, revising this pattern seems to suggest I put some extra notes here, let's fix it...

00:39:716 - Quite sure there's still synth here, shouldn't be ignore here.sure, checked out the whole section for this synth too.

00:51:162 - Should have 1/2 LN here, i can actually hear synth here. please do this at other diff too. sure. (I use single note instead of LN for N diff as short LN can be confusing for novices)

00:57:462 - Having 1/3 stream until 00:57:809 - actually quite interesting to be made here. ok

01:11:219 (71219|5,71234|4) - Same as 00:15:728 (15728|5,15742|4) - sure

01:16:219 (76219|5,76306|4,76393|5,76479|4) - This pattern kinda not makes sense for me for you to trilled here since the piano pitch obviously all different here. I will recommend you http://puu.sh/AeELZ/05854e8bc2.png instead (started from 01:16:306 - ) Somewhat different to your suggestion as I want to keep the Clap at col 8. But otherwise ok.

01:29:138 - Although I know the structure you intend to built here, but for me this kinda doesn't represent the pitch well enough. I will recommend you something like http://puu.sh/AeF4o/08d7649d9e.png ok

01:39:543 (99543|4,99716|4,99890|4,100063|4,100237|4,100410|4,100584|4) - This anchor kindaaa.. mehhh.. probably move 01:39:890 (99890|4) - to col 8 to reduce a bit. sure

01:53:503 - There's cymbal hard sound here, probably add a note? Does not seem to be a sound for me, could be artifact from the last cymbal, not sure, leaving it

01:56:537 - Ah i was hoping you actually normalize the red line here, since the slowdown here makes it play too redundant and personally i don't really like it playing slowjam at 46 BPM. please do it at all difficulty. argh... actually I really liked slowing down this, the music get softer down the road..... what about normalize it and then apply gradually slowing down to 0.7x of normalized SV?...

[I]
00:09:543 (9543|7) - Same as X difficulty. sure

00:25:757 (25757|6) - since this one is higher pitch, doesn't really makes sense for me to have lower column than 00:25:670 (25670|7) - , I will suggest you to move 00:25:670 (25670|7,25757|6,25844|5,25930|3) - to 6-7-4-5. actually the note 8 is for kick that has been running for several measures already... Moving that note away could become awkward...

00:26:711 - Since the pitch are gradually lower, i expect the stair pattern to also represent that. Try something like http://puu.sh/AeFsd/0a3d8cf885.png ok, tweaked a bit

00:33:300 - until 00:37:115 - Perhaps you can give more differences with patterning compared with X diff? you can essentially only move the column of the pattern while making the structure remains the same. sure let's see...

01:29:138 - until 01:32:953 - this also kinda looked too same with X diff, although i can give leniency when it's at low dense pattern, but not when the pattern is this dense. I hope you can kinda makes it different but still makes your structure remains same. ok let's see...

[H]
00:18:040 - You should delete this note i think since you didn't use it at 00:19:427 - etc. The piano is present here but absent at 00:19:427, so keeping...

00:24:977 - Should be deleted too? same reason as above. Same as 00:18:040, piano is present

01:26:711 - Actually i don't really like how simple this pattern is although i know its hard diff, since it's only single stream i do think you can variate it a bit like http://puu.sh/AeFV6/36a3753362.png hm... ok, tweaked the ending to keep decreasing in pitch

01:28:792 - Probably kinda the same as I diff. sure

[N]
00:16:826 (16826|1,17000|2,17173|4,17347|5) - I don't think the pattern should be this linear considering how the pitch sounded here. try 4-3-6-5. ok

01:12:318 (72318|1,72491|3,72664|4,72838|5) - kinda same as before, but you probably can tweak it a bit in a way that forms similar pattern as before. ok

Call me back

_VianK_ wrote:

F

1. Maybe not a big thing to note but it is actually inaccurate to use green lines in a way like 00:08:329 - to 00:11:104 - and from 00:44:399 - to 01:09:370 - because the SVs are actually increased with a different rate. Try the ways in the code below:
   
   First part:
   

   8329,-125,4,2,1,15,0,0
   9716,-111.111111111111,4,2,1,15,0,0
   11104,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1

   
   This first part then is from 0.8x to 1.0x, with an increment of 0.1x after each SV.
   
   Second part:
   

   44399,-166.666666666667,4,2,1,35,0,0
   46826,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,35,0,0
   47173,-125,4,2,1,35,0,0
   68676,-111.111111111111,4,2,1,35,0,0
   69370,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1

   
   This second part then is from 0.6x to 1.0x, with two SVs in the middle are deleted because these two are not on heavy sounds, which may be better getting rid of them for emphasis of those heavier sounds.
   
   You can have a try on both changes to see if they make sense to you. I have tested and they actually didn't make a huge change but still make the whole green line use more accurate.

1. 01:11:451 - to 01:12:029 - I really think having hitsounds in this part is necessary cuz these drums are really very strong to be noticed. The same idea applies to 01:11:451 - to 01:12:029 - .

Tofu1222 wrote:

Excellent map overall, but I have a few small concerns before it hits the ranked stage :3

[General]

1. Maybe not a big thing to note but it is actually inaccurate to use green lines in a way like 00:08:329 - to 00:11:104 - and from 00:44:399 - to 01:09:370 - because the SVs are actually increased with a different rate. Try the ways in the code below:
   
   First part:
   

   8329,-125,4,2,1,15,0,0
   9716,-111.111111111111,4,2,1,15,0,0
   11104,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1

   
   This first part then is from 0.8x to 1.0x, with an increment of 0.1x after each SV.
   
   Second part:
   

   44399,-166.666666666667,4,2,1,35,0,0
   46826,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,35,0,0
   47173,-125,4,2,1,35,0,0
   68676,-111.111111111111,4,2,1,35,0,0
   69370,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1

   
   This second part then is from 0.6x to 1.0x, with two SVs in the middle are deleted because these two are not on heavy sounds, which may be better getting rid of them for emphasis of those heavier sounds.
   
   You can have a try on both changes to see if they make sense to you. I have tested and they actually didn't make a huge change but still make the whole green line use more accurate.
   
   The SV changes are linear, and because osu editor only allow entering 2 decimal places.......... Probably not going to do slight changes to SV at this stage I guess

[H]

1. 01:11:451 - to 01:12:029 - I really think having hitsounds in this part is necessary cuz these drums are really very strong to be noticed. The same idea applies to 01:11:451 - to 01:12:029 - . Agreed I should have hitsounds here... except I can't update the map

Besides, there are also quite a noticeable length in both N and H without hitsounds. I understand that you are focusing on melody but I am not sure whether it's a good thing to keep like that, since without no feedback given to the beginners they might get a bit confused on these parts, especially since it's also with higher key amount. Given the sounds go to the main instrument (i.e. piano) and the notes follows the pitch, sticking hitsounds would go against that during play...

Good luck further!

Tofu1222 wrote:

Sorry I forget to copy paste the SV on 00:00:006 - , and it should be 0.70x instead of 0.75x ;w;

Otherwise the maps are fine, hitsounds look better this time owo)b

Kamikaze wrote:

actually one point before I requalify this, on X diff:

since you're putting notes for the piano grace at 02:01:089 (121089|4,121193|5,121297|6,121401|7) - , it would make perfect sense to also put notes for the grace at 02:06:251 - , something like this:



sure, probably only in X diff as this is actually quite soft

Kamikaze wrote:

you've put the notes as if the lines were 1/8 but they're on 1/16 at 02:06:251 -


(Right is yours)

fix it up and we're good to go