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Yura Hatsuki - Nanka Ii Koto

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Hanazawa Kana
727 posts
Joined February 2013
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Hanazawa Kana

Minakami Yuki wrote:

  1. Just some complaints.
  2. My personal suggestions.
  3. Highly recommended.
  4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Easy
  1. 00:24:837 (4,1,2) - 其实可以形成一个正三角形，然后让00:26:760 (3) - blanket 00:24:837 (4) -
  2. 00:41:376 (2,3) - 尽量避免easy出现1/2交接吧：
Normal
  1. 00:05:799 (6) - 00:18:299 (6) - 00:26:760 (4) - 差点出去，往上移点
  2. 00:25:222 (1) - 没必要finish
Insane
  1. hp+0.5 or 1；od没必要8吧？ od改到7.5了 主要是感觉od太低的话就完全没pp了 _(:з」∠)_
  2. 看来小黄瓜的音效是从你这里复制的？finish太几把吵了。音效建议参考人格的同一张rank图。
hard稍微降低点难度，到3.3~3.4左右比较好，insane的话就不用了
可 都改了
音效的话 我把insane的kiai部分都换成大白线finish了(
Misure
951 posts
Joined September 2012
Misure
卡娜高德
kamisamaaa
605 posts
Joined July 2011
kamisamaaa
@老M 除了finish都改了 finish我觉得听起来比较爽啊！
舔屎这里是代码
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43683
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 6760,31376,43683,55991,68299,70222
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.1

[Metadata]
Title:Nanka Ii Koto
TitleUnicode:なんかいいこと
Artist:Hatsuki Yura
ArtistUnicode:葉月ゆら
Creator:Hanazawa Kana
Version:Kami's Hard
Source:Ganbare! Memeko-chan
Tags:La Pucelle がんばれ！メメ子ちゃん opening Seifumeigetsu 清風明月 kamisamaaa
BeatmapID:992355
BeatmapSetID:459012

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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Hanazawa Kana
727 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Hanazawa Kana
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Misure wrote:

卡娜高德
米苏高德什么时候带我飞
Koiyuki
2,531 posts
Joined March 2013
Koiyuki
黄瓜's hard：
既然变速去掉了的话那么nc呢？nc也一起去了吧，如果你非要下nc梗不如下在00:54:260 (2,3,4) -
kamisamaaa
605 posts
Joined July 2011
kamisamaaa

Minakami Yuki wrote:

黄瓜's hard：
既然变速去掉了的话那么nc呢？nc也一起去了吧，如果你非要下nc梗不如下在00:54:260 (2,3,4) -
我只是单纯的忘了去掉NC 233
改了改了 多余的绿线也去掉了！
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Hanazawa Kana
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Doyak
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Doyak
[Normal]
* 00:17:914 - Normal sampleset
* 00:20:030 (3,4) - Flow could be improved. I'd use 00:20:030 (3) - with Ctrl+J.
* 00:25:222 - 00:31:376 - Finish
* 00:55:991 (1,2) - This too. I wouldn't really suggest that goes exactly backward after transition on a Normal diff. Something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5686766 will be a better choice.

[Kami's Hard]
* 00:40:222 (5,6,7,1) - Why is it a triplet + note? The drums are definitely in a note + triplet.

[Insane]
* 00:41:953 - Finish
* 00:52:722 - This Normal sampleset feels pretty random, why not just use auto?
* 01:01:376 - Clap like 00:49:068 -
* 01:14:453 - Whistle because it's the most important melody.
* I'm sorry telling this too late. But we have some overmapped objects that hurts the emphasis of the actual sounds. So the ones in problem are 00:17:433 (7) - 00:29:741 (7) - 00:37:433 (7) - 00:43:203 (7) - 00:55:510 (5) - 01:04:741 (6) -
So here's what Natsu (an experienced BN) suggested:



I still think the hitsounds are a bit inconsistent and can be improved. Please check these thoroughly by yourself before calling me back.
kamisamaaa
605 posts
Joined July 2011
kamisamaaa

Doyak wrote:

[Kami's Hard]
* 00:40:222 (5,6,7,1) - Why is it a triplet + note? The drums are definitely in a note + triplet. okay fix
code
osu file format v14

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Title:Nanka Ii Koto
TitleUnicode:なんかいいこと
Artist:Hatsuki Yura
ArtistUnicode:葉月ゆら
Creator:Hanazawa Kana
Version:Kami's Hard
Source:Ganbare! Memeko-chan
Tags:La Pucelle がんばれ！メメ子ちゃん opening Seifumeigetsu 清風明月 kamisamaaa
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400,103,50607,1,6,0:0:0:0:
259,102,50799,1,2,0:0:0:0:
426,189,50991,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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133,348,52530,1,8,0:0:0:0:
173,193,52722,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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427,367,53299,2,0,L|460:276,1,80,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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315,216,54068,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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146,258,55414,1,6,0:0:0:0:
61,187,55607,1,8,1:2:0:0:
57,206,55703,1,0,1:2:0:0:
54,221,55799,1,0,1:2:0:0:
21,109,55991,5,6,0:0:0:0:
136,110,56183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
21,109,56376,1,10,0:0:0:0:
136,110,56568,1,0,0:0:0:0:
73,40,56760,2,0,B|17:17|17:17|-7:31,2,80,6|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,110,57337,6,0,P|208:148|303:140,1,160,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,60,57914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
382,138,58107,2,0,L|446:323,1,160,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,341,58683,1,10,0:0:0:0:
335,258,58876,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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67,301,59837,1,6,0:0:0:0:
93,127,60030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
9,243,60222,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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93,127,60991,1,10,0:0:0:0:
256,102,61183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,40,61376,2,0,L|384:213,1,160,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,292,61953,5,0,1:2:0:0:
375,307,62049,1,0,1:2:0:0:
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226,137,62914,2,0,L|174:225,1,80,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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95,227,63683,5,6,0:0:0:0:
181,49,63876,1,6,0:0:0:0:
185,205,64068,1,14,0:0:0:0:
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101,335,64837,1,8,1:2:0:0:
101,335,64933,1,0,1:2:0:0:
101,335,65030,1,0,1:2:0:0:
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231,86,66183,1,0,1:2:0:0:
239,104,66280,1,0,1:2:0:0:
246,122,66376,1,10,1:2:0:0:
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400,248,67145,1,2,1:2:0:0:
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Hanazawa Kana
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Hanazawa Kana
@Doyak
All fixed
For hitsound,this time i try to use claps on every 2nd and 4th white line and use normal sampleset on drums which are not at 2,4 white line.
Also i add some whistles on kiai part to make it sounds more lively.
sahuang
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hype pp map
Euny
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came from fairy's req❤


  • dont need kudo for this
  1. current your soft-hitclap sound hard to listen with music when play. how about change? if you agree with me, try to using this one >> http://puu.sh/qffBf/ace5b42e12.wav / i'll send to you something present in forum pm check it
kamisamaaa
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kamisamaaa
特么的我看了看你的insane 你除了kiai都没用soft-whistle啊！！难怪人家说你音效不行OTZ
我之前不是教你了么 人声的高音你就用whistle啊 从头到尾！=都要加！
Hanazawa Kana
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@Euny Thank you~~ I'll have a try of it.
@kamisamaaa 好好好 等下我去改
sahuang
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sahuang

kamisamaaa wrote:

特么的我看了看你的insane 你除了kiai都没用soft-whistle啊！！难怪人家说你音效不行OTZ
我之前不是教你了么 人声的高音你就用whistle啊 从头到尾！=都要加！
直接无脑f c w c多好www
顺便这图有ranked ver，为什么不能直接炒一下
Shiranai
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Shiranai
Glad we have another hatsuki yura's map, yet this one is the third version of the song :p
Doyak
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I have no more problems with the set, but as we changed the hitsound file and changed Easy/Normal's hitsound entirely, let me get a double confirmation from another BN (probably Minakami Yuki) again. (I can't qualify anymore today anyway)
Koiyuki
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hao*2
Hanazawa Kana
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感谢M酱~~
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gratz c:♥
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Congrats❤️
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pppppppppp
gratzzzzzzzz
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ke
_MiaoFUuU_
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哈哈，飞了～gratz！
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哇，恭喜你飞第一张图~~~
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GRATSSS!!!
Hanazawa Kana
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wawawawawa thank you guys~~
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听说飞了
很强 :)
GIDZ
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GIDZ
Told you this was close to being ranked :P (Even though I forgot to mod it /me runs)
Underforest
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oh this song
Gaia
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Gaia
ahhh was gunna mod this but was overseas ;-;

恭喜!
Wafu
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Wafu
There are few things that could be improved and some details were missed.

[General]
  1. Don't rely on metadata from older beatmaps or check the proof in cases someone provides you one. The reference listed is website of her album, which is correct when it comes to title. However, you must use prefered romanization if the artist has one, in this case, she's using Yura Hatsuki, it's even on the same website. You might argue that the link actually shows the previous order, but that's not an official reference. Domain name means nothing to us, as it could've been picked by someone else or her preferred domain could had been taken before she bought it, you might even notice that it says "hatuki", so it's not really a reference for romanization, please use what's on her website.
  2. Hitsounds bother me here a lot. While the arrangement of claps seems to be good, I quite don't get the custom hitsound you're using. The song is having some pop-rock type of snare, but you're using typical snare for electronical music, which doesn't sound that good here, you could find a better replacement for it. If you decide to change this, you can PM me for some recommendation.
  3. As I said, claps are fine, whistles seem to be fine too, but the cymbals are really out of place. The usage in some places is following music properly - when there's a cymbal in the music, you use a finish. That's fine, but some places use it to emphasize vocals, which makes it sound really loud and it feels unnatural for listener, somehow the player knows the cymbal is not going to be here. I'd like you to go through all difficulties and check all the finishes, especially during the kiai. The best example is Kami's Hard (and the biggest concern is his difficulty regarding this, but be sure to check it on all diffs) from 00:43:683 - to 00:55:991 - , there are 6 cymbals (in the end of this part, one looks echoed, so let's assume there are 7) but hitsounds have 20 finishes of cymbal type. What's however interesting is that through 00:52:914 - 00:55:991 - you follow the cymbals quite well, apart from 00:53:683 - 00:54:645 - 00:55:414 - but they don't sound that terrible. The thing is that emphasizing vocals as you did can be simply done using whistle - for example 01:03:876 (2,3) - sounds absolutely great with whistles only, because it somehow emphasizes the vocals by the whistle, but highlights the cymbal much better. Less can sometimes be more and having contrast between cymbal-following finishes and vocal-following whistles is musically more intelligent and as a listener, much more pleasant to hear. If you want, I can point out every single place with present issue, but I guess going through it once by yourself is enough.
  4. Another thing about how the map sounds and last, but things like 00:54:549 - should not be audible if you decide to do such thing. The ends end on nothing, so hearing any feedback here is annoying and doesn't make much sense. This applies to Kami's hard again. The way Insane used this is fine.
[Normal]
  1. When discussing this map, there was a concern from other BN about overlapping objects. It's not a big thing, but I agreed that it looks unpolished when some parts overlap objects, some parts have visible gaps, not sure if it was your intention.
  2. 00:20:030 (3,4) - This might look a bit confusing to a Normal player. We know that newbies often miss a repeat with the slider start. That's because the repeat is simply closer to the previous object and generally, they like playing what's closer first. I'd really recommend a different angle of this slider, it can be solved for example this way, it's better to avoid potential confusion on lewer diffs.
    Screenshot
  3. 00:51:183 (4,5,6,7) - and 00:54:260 (3,4,5) - Judging from personal knowledge (what I remember was struggle for me when I was beginner and what my friends mostly complained about when I introduced them to the game) and replays of new players on this map, I must say these are the places where the newbies really get off the track. They usually start to spam 50s or 100s here, which is understandable because the transition from the white ticks to the red ticks is making a tricky rhythm. The players get the most of the rhythmical feedback from drums, so playing vocals while hearing the drums between them is what makes them confused. However, that's different for sliders, because they're easier to hit and don't require so gimmicky clicking as circles in such a pattern. I highly recommend you to replace these patterns with some sliders, eventually with a repeat, so the rhythm is easily understandable for the newbies. I could even say that the way Hard is mapped would feel less tricky for newbies that how the Normal is currently mapped.
[Easy]
  1. I really like this difficulty, quite a lot, but there's one thing that doesn't seem to fit. 00:42:337 (3) - Is the only 1/2 slider in the whole map and the problem is that it's probably too short, which might for sure surprise the player a lot, because it's unusually rhythm and pattern and in comparison with the rest of the map, it's not corresponding the difficulty of other patterns.
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Hanazawa Kana
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sorry
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Wafu
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Updated the post as I said before the edit. Anyway, I don't like doing this but I want to respond to your response, because I think this communication doesn't work.

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

If you have searched it and you can see that every ranked song of this artist use "Hatsuki Yura" rather than "Yura Hatsuki" such as the Eclipse Parade ranked last month,so i think there's no need to change it any more.btw,i've asked it to kwan and she said she will have a check of it.
I could even quotate myself "Don't rely on metadata from older beatmaps or check the proof in cases someone provides you one." This is very important, we are discouraged to use metadata from older maps, no matter how old they are. Someone not checking things properly recently doesn't necessarily mean that the metadata can be used in newer maps once someone proves it. I provided you probably the most reliable information you can get - what's more official than the singer's official website? I don't quite get why do you need KwaN here - of course, if you want to be sure about it, then go ahead, but what I said is exactly that you basically never copy metadata from older maps, if their usage is not corresponding to official source, then others still have to follow official data. I guess that album is not easy to get today, therefore unless you find scan of La Pucelle album, you must use Yura Hatsuki instead.

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

You can hear the claps sounds clearly and that shows the rhythm of the music,i think this is enough.From my point of view,i think currently using clap is good.
Well, you probably didn't get the point, if you use any pop-rock drum and replace the clap, it sounds much cooler, you might at least have tried that. I agree it's personal preference, but before trying anything, assuming that it's enough is a bit lazy. I could live with that however.

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

That doestn't matters a lot cause players don't click the end of a slider and will not affect the feeling of play.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that it gives annoying feedback even though the song provides nothing. Why'd then insane have these muted and hard would keep that? I really feel like this is attacking your own opinion, because what you do proves what you prefer. There had to be reason for doing it on insane, because it sounded weird probably, so suddenly saying that it doesn't matter because players don't click it is not in accordination with what you did. It's not even about affecting the gameplay, but the overall feeling when playing. Hearing something annoying already makes the feeling worse.

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

I use finish in every big white lines in kiai part and also use it to emphasis some important sound.you can hear there have the same sound in these places.00:52:914 - 00:55:991 - 00:53:683 - 00:54:645 - 00:55:414 -why not using the same hitsound? by the way,I use claps in every 2nd and 4th white lines and whistles in mostly red lines in kiai part to keep a rhythm and lively feeling.Besides kiai part,i use whistles to emphasis the highest tune of voice.
That's not a new thing. I am capable of checking how the things are placed and what they follow. The thing you're doing here is explaining me what do you follow, which is not issue, I explained you why this way of following is an issue and you simply come up with explaining me the way you made the issue, not why it isn't issue. The issue with finishes is that you follow multiple sounds in the music with it, especially all with the same volume and it result in some places to be really overdone and loud. I'm talking about the diversity and following the music properly - using correct instrument to emphasize something. Places where finish (as a cymbal) is following cymbal in the music are perfect, but places where it follows voice or the organ/whatever you call that simply sound loud and unfitting because using so many cymbals wouldn't make sense in this kind of song and because it doesn't highlight the instruments properly. What I'm trying to say here that in some places (such as the pattern I mentioned in previous post 01:03:876 (2,3) - did you even try that without finishes?) you use them unnecessarily and there are ways this can sound much better. Highlighting sounds is about their diversity and about the ability of them being distinguished from others. By putting a cymbal everywhere, listener isn't even able to tell what you're trying to emphasize, if other instruments use different hitsound, for example in the pattern I mentioned that whistle would fit: 01:03:876 (2,3) - the cymbals are highlighed in much better way, because there's the contrast between one and the other instrument. Editor allows you to use 1200 custom hitsounds, limiting yourself to just cymbal for multiple instruments doesn't make sense and could sound much better and more logical. I'm not trying to say that your hitsounds are bad, but why doing it this way, if other makes more sense and sounds/highlights certain instruments better. You can still highlight vocals, the organ and the cymbals while having the contrast, just by using variety of hitsounds, as I mentioned for example 01:03:876 (2,3) - just listen to it in current statement, it's really destroying one's ears, while whistles instead of these cymbals highlight the cymbals in sound much more and it sounds more pleasant. "I use finish in every big white lines in kiai part" - I noticed that and what I'm telling you is explaining why that isn't mostly proper.

This all might sound rude to you and might sound like I want to force everything to be fixed or that I just desperately want to DQ this. I know this is your first ranked map and it's visible from your response. Many mappers who firstly qualify a map try to avoid the disqualification and I'm not surprised, people are afraid of it because of the struggle they had getting BNs and because it took some time to actually get to the point where your map can be qualified, so it's pretty natural that you might feel like that. Disqualifications are there to avoid mistakes or things that were overlooked and to increase the quality of the beatmap. I'm saying this now, because I you seem to use fallacies and make up reasons to avoid the disqualification. I'm trying to explain you how things can be better and why they are better in this way by logical statements. The clap hitsound is personal preference, I just said it could be better for some reasons, but if you're satisfied that the snare sounds a bit more punchy than what the song should probably have, that's personal preference. But I cannot really get through the fact that you want to skip things such as this usage of finishes. I agree that you should follow the sounds you followed, but it doesn't make sense to use the same hitsound for most of sounds you want to emphasize, especially when it's a cymbal, which sounds really loud and in music, it's used very rarely and for a reason - because even in music, it sounds loud and artists use it only in places of some transition. I could write you many reasons why this usage is wrong, but I'm not going to make a "how does highlighting sounds work" thread off this. Please, consider what I said as a valid thing and try it yourself, don't be afraid of disqualification, I can assure you that this is worth requalifying and you have nothing to worry about. The mindset of people having their first beatmap disqualified is really complicated and it's obvious you'll want to avoid it. I just want you to be sure that there are ways to improve things a lot and you can do it to make this beatmap almost perfect. Don't try to make up reasons/fallacies just to avoid things. You can PM me at any time and I'll be more than glad to show you how better it can be, following the same sounds as you do, I'd really like to talk to you personally, because it's better for you to understand what one wans to say and maybe we could end up in a happy conclusion. We're not here to claw or bite, we're here to help and improve maps!

Please, keep in mind that map being disqualified doesn't always mean a bad thing, especially when there's a lot of potential for improvement..
Hanazawa Kana
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Thank you.
I'll have a check of it and fix the problems these days.
Doyak
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Just ask me if you need something.
IamKwaN
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As per your request.
Hanazawa Kana
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@Wafu
All fixed but keep finish hitsound in hard diff as the requset of GDer.
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Doyak
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I hope kami comes here and explain why by himself.
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