Yura Hatsuki - Nanka Ii Koto · forum

_MiaoFUuU_

314 posts

Joined April 2014

_MiaoFUuU_ 2016-06-09T08:57:09+00:00

Easy

00:39:645 - 这里加个finish
00:43:299 - ↑
00:51:183 - 我觉得这里节奏有点怪，
00:54:068 (2) - 我不知道Easy也能不能放1/2节拍，如果可以的话，这个建议stack，不可以的话跟00:51:376 - 就好了

Normal

00:44:453 (3,4) - 建议做成滑条回打
00:46:760 (1) - kiai部分我觉得都节奏和人声都跟打的舒服点，比如 00:48:491 - 这里你就跟节奏不跟人声，感觉好怪，你试试摆成这样的节奏，排列你再调整 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5347773
00:51:183 - 这里是红线分音，00:52:914 - 这里才变回白线，所以个范围内的点击都放红线，00:54:260 - 这里节奏就放对了！
01:05:030 - 补上1个
01:10:799 (6) - 建议删了圈圈，01:10:991 (7) - 这个做成回打
01:14:068 - 这里插个5%的音量

Kami's Hard

00:06:087 - 不要这么放，打起来很别扭，要么尾巴放红线
00:19:645 - 建议这里跟人声放红线，00:20:414 - 然后这里补上个圈
00:25:799 - ↑
00:52:914 (1,1,1) - 我喜欢这里这样放，滑条快慢参次不齐，而且打得不带感

Insane

00:36:376 (2) - 建议跟人声，前面都是跟人声这里突然不跟好怪
00:45:799 (4) - 弧度不整齐，不好看
00:49:068 (4) - 不要贴前面的滑条边，而且要包住中间
00:57:337 (1,4) - 不好看，建议骨架拉成差不多

GL~

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-06-09T09:43:32+00:00

Frenkie09 wrote:
Easy
00:39:645 - 这里加个finish 好的
00:43:299 - ↑ 好
00:51:183 - 我觉得这里节奏有点怪，是挺怪的但是我要是红线放滑条的话打起来更难受了
00:54:068 (2) - 我不知道Easy也能不能放1/2节拍，如果可以的话，这个建议stack，不可以的话跟00:51:376 - 就好了好的删掉了
Normal
00:44:453 (3,4) - 建议做成滑条回打好的
00:46:760 (1) - kiai部分我觉得都节奏和人声都跟打的舒服点，比如 00:48:491 - 这里你就跟节奏不跟人声，感觉好怪，你试试摆成这样的节奏，排列你再调整 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5347773 可以那就塞爆
00:51:183 - 这里是红线分音，00:52:914 - 这里才变回白线，所以个范围内的点击都放红线，00:54:260 - 这里节奏就放对了！好的
01:05:030 - 补上1个好
01:10:799 (6) - 建议删了圈圈，01:10:991 (7) - 这个做成回打先不改感觉这里还行
01:14:068 - 这里插个5%的音量这里有音啊感觉没什么必要静音

Insane
00:36:376 (2) - 建议跟人声，前面都是跟人声这里突然不跟好怪其实前面都是跟的鼓人声就是顺带跟这里这么明显锣声我感觉不能不跟而人声还和他冲突了所以我比较倾向于这里放弃人声
00:45:799 (4) - 弧度不整齐，不好看好改了
00:49:068 (4) - 不要贴前面的滑条边，而且要包住中间好
00:57:337 (1,4) - 不好看，建议骨架拉成差不多好
GL~

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_MiaoFUuU_

314 posts

Joined April 2014

_MiaoFUuU_ 2016-06-09T11:08:52+00:00

Hanazawa Kana wrote:
Frenkie09 wrote:
Easy
00:39:645 - 这里加个finish 好的
00:43:299 - ↑ 好
00:51:183 - 我觉得这里节奏有点怪，是挺怪的但是我要是红线放滑条的话打起来更难受了
00:54:068 (2) - 我不知道Easy也能不能放1/2节拍，如果可以的话，这个建议stack，不可以的话跟00:51:376 - 就好了好的删掉了
Normal
00:44:453 (3,4) - 建议做成滑条回打好的
00:46:760 (1) - kiai部分我觉得都节奏和人声都跟打的舒服点，比如 00:48:491 - 这里你就跟节奏不跟人声，感觉好怪，你试试摆成这样的节奏，排列你再调整 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5347773 可以那就塞爆
00:51:183 - 这里是红线分音，00:52:914 - 这里才变回白线，所以个范围内的点击都放红线，00:54:260 - 这里节奏就放对了！好的
01:05:030 - 补上1个好
01:10:799 (6) - 建议删了圈圈，01:10:991 (7) - 这个做成回打先不改感觉这里还行
01:14:068 - 这里插个5%的音量这里有音啊感觉没什么必要静音

Insane
00:36:376 (2) - 建议跟人声，前面都是跟人声这里突然不跟好怪其实前面都是跟的鼓人声就是顺带跟这里这么明显锣声我感觉不能不跟而人声还和他冲突了所以我比较倾向于这里放弃人声
00:45:799 (4) - 弧度不整齐，不好看好改了
00:49:068 (4) - 不要贴前面的滑条边，而且要包住中间好
00:57:337 (1,4) - 不好看，建议骨架拉成差不多好
GL~
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Kobayakawa Sae

131 posts

Joined December 2013

Kobayakawa Sae 2016-06-12T15:22:37+00:00

回(shui)摸
[Easy]
00:06:376 - 这里有个重音加上一个note会不会好一点?
01:00:222 (2,4) - 个人认为easy还是不要重叠比较好

[Normal]
00:28:299 (1) - 是这样的，我个人认为这个改成1/2滑条接圈节奏可能会好玩一点

[Kami's Hard]
00:09:453 (5) - 个人认为这个滑条ctrl+g一下打起来会顺手一点
01:06:953 (2) - 我感觉这个地方可以改成这样比较方便读图

以免当成1/2滑条接两个单点来打了

[Insane]
01:14:260 - 是这样的，我认为这个地方加上个三连，节奏上会连贯一点

~~水完跑~~

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-06-13T04:49:14+00:00

[Charlie Lam] wrote:
回(shui)摸
[Easy]
00:06:376 - 这里有个重音加上一个note会不会好一点? 好像确实是有不过这里前后节奏间距不一样放note可能不好打先放置
01:00:222 (2,4) - 个人认为easy还是不要重叠比较好先放置吧好像有点难改我等等看bn的意见

[Normal]
00:28:299 (1) - 是这样的，我个人认为这个改成1/2滑条接圈节奏可能会好玩一点折返滑条接1/2可能会有点难.

[Insane]
01:14:260 - 是这样的，我认为这个地方加上个三连，节奏上会连贯一点就不加了吧这边声音很小再加上后面是转盘感觉还是不要这么紧凑

~~水完跑~~

谢摸~~

Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2016-06-13T12:30:49+00:00

Insane
00:02:722 (5) - this is ending vocal, I think it is better to have a jump here, instead of same ds with 00:02:145 (3,4) -
00:03:876 - you map for loud vocal before, it is better to del this circle.
00:09:453 (6,7) - here do not have strong sound for circle (7), it gets a weird feel to have large ds here. I suggested you can lower the ds from 6 to 7, and making a jumping for 7 -> 1. it can emphasise sound at 00:09:837 - . Just like what you did at 00:15:607 (7,8,1) - (same modding applied for 00:12:530 (6,7,1) - )
00:17:530 (1,2,3) - it is quite misleading that visual spacing like 1/2 snapped, but actually it is 3/4 slider.... (same modding applied for 00:35:991 (1,2,3) - , 00:51:183 (1,2,3) - , 00:54:260 (1,2,3) - ). Playable not equal to good to use.
00:19:068 (1,2) - circle (2) is a little weird to place like this. I think it is better to keep the same like 00:22:145 (1,2) -
00:33:299 (3,4) - here suitable to have a jumping....
01:06:953 - this is a sound drum sound, I think better to have clickable object here.
01:09:837 (3,4) - I suggested to use this, as it suits flowing more, and making jump seems more suitable. As it is an Insane diff, I think you can change ds when it make sense.

SPOILER

Hard
00:04:260 - why there is a SV change here? it is quite un-predictable to have it. (same modding applied for 01:11:953 - )
00:17:530 (1,2,3) - same as Insane diff. it is quite misleading that visual spacing like 1/2 snapped, but actually it is 3/4 slider.... Of course you can make extented slider in Hard, but please make it like 3/4 snapped. (same modding applied for 00:51:183 (1,2,3) - , 00:54:260 (2,3,4) - )
00:25:607 (3) - 00:26:376 (6) - it is not well stacking 00:24:837 (4) -
00:25:607 (3,1) - it is a kind of poor overlapping, just affect the looking for the map. suggestion:

SPOILER

00:27:722 (4,1) - this overlapping also, not that good to read. I suggest you can change 00:28:299 (1) - to two circle, or draw it without overlapping
00:28:876 - and 00:29:260 - is vocal sound, I think it is better to have clickable object.
00:29:837 - there is a strong beat sound here, therefore suggested to use clickable object, and add finish sound here.
suggested rhythm here:

00:35:991 - why SV change? I think it should be prevent to have sudden change for SV in Hard diff, it is quite un-predictable (same modding applied for 00:52:914 (1) - , 00:53:683 (1) - 01:06:568 (1,4) - )

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-06-13T14:38:48+00:00

Kyle Y wrote:

Insane
00:17:530 (1,2,3) - it is quite misleading that visual spacing like 1/2 snapped, but actually it is 3/4 slider.... (same modding applied for 00:35:991 (1,2,3) - , 00:51:183 (1,2,3) - , 00:54:260 (1,2,3) - ). Playable not equal to good to use. I want to emphasis the rhythm here so I think a big ds is ok ~~hard to fix it so keep it for now _(:з」∠)_~~
01:06:953 - this is a sound drum sound, I think better to have clickable object here. It's true,but a 3/4slider and three single note maybe hard to play,so keep

No reply=fixed
thank you ky san~~
quite helpful

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-06-14T11:22:57+00:00

桃心的基本都改了别的零零散散改了一些梗变速暂时不想变因为觉得还挺好玩的

垃圾舔屎看这里

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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-06-30T04:21:08+00:00

~~Placeholder, I'll mod this today or tomorrow.~~ editing this post instead of posting new one for 2 kudosu!

[General]
* Kami's Hard doesn't have custom note color.

[Easy]
Notes are fine, but I think this diff needs some improvement on hitsounding. If you don't like custom hitsounds, you can try default drum samplesets to represent specific drum sounds better too.
* 00:03:299 - 01:10:991 - Add whistle, it's the only sound you didn't put a whistle, and I don't feel any difference than others.
* 00:39:068 - Add finish, there's a cymbal sound.
* 00:40:222 - Add something like clap here too. It's too empty when there's a lot of drums on the background.
* 00:41:376 - 00:41:953 - Add finish here too, it's super weird when you have finishes on 00:40:607 - 00:40:991 - but not on these.
* 00:43:299 - Remove finish from here. It's better to emphasize 00:43:683 - this when you don't have a same emphasis on the beat before.
* 00:54:260 - 00:55:030 - Add finishes. There are cymbal sounds, and the vocals are pretty much worth to be emphasized. Also consider adding something like claps on 00:54:645 - 00:55:414 - as well.
* 01:03:683 - 01:04:260 - Same, cymbals.
* 01:05:991 - 01:06:568 - 01:07:337 - They all need finishes too.

[Normal]
* There are too many 1/2s, and this made too large gap between Easy. You need to simply the rhythm more, and disconnect long 1/2 trains to compensate the gap. I'll give you some example to nerf them, but it's up to you how you'll actually reduce the overall number of beats.
In case you'll think "They're mostly sliders, it's not harder than clicking 1/1 circles", I'll say these target players actually care about every slider tails too, and gives no time to prepare for the next pattern.
* Also needs some more work on hitsounding.
* 00:02:145 - Add whistle
* 00:02:530 - Remove whistle if you don't like spamming.
* 00:06:376 - Add soft clap
* 00:08:107 (4) - 00:11:183 (4) - Remove these notes. The target players needs some rest.
* 00:10:414 (2) - This overlaps with the HP bar, try to pull it down a bit
* 00:14:068 (4) - Use one circle on the head.
* 00:17:337 (4,5) - Rather than this, I'll suggesst this for better emphasize on the finishes: http://puu.sh/pMFxg/c4ae22dcd4.jpg
* 00:20:799 (4,5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/pMFCk/dbf9f16c27.jpg
* 00:26:568 - Seems you don't want to miss this vocal, but for the sake of proper difficulty of this map, you can ignore this.
* 00:28:876 (2) - This completely overlaps with the HP bar.
* 00:30:607 (5,6) - These lacks hitsounds, considering how strong the drums are on these notes. For all difficulties, this kind of parts are where I want you to use some drum samplesets.
* 00:41:953 - Finish
* from 00:43:683 - to 00:52:914 - I made an example beat. Just take a look and reduce it by yourself. http://puu.sh/pMGKz/bcd6d84df4.jpg http://puu.sh/pMGLW/c7483f932c.jpg Same for the later kiai.
* 00:53:683 - It's weird not to have a finish while 00:52:914 - these all have finishes.
* 00:55:414 - Same, while 00:54:260 - 00:54:645 - 00:55:030 - these all have. An alternative way is to remove it from 00:54:645 - , as it doesn't have a cymbal sound.
* 01:05:991 - 01:06:568 - 01:07:337 - finish
* 01:08:299 - This part, same as the first part

[Kami's Hard]
Hi Kami, been a long while.
* I'm not fond of those sudden SV changes and amount of jumps, as they're just like an Insane. There's no stone bridge between the Normal diff and this diff. Especially, Insane diff doesn't do those sudden SV changes, so I'd suggest to remove them.
* 00:05:799 (4,1,2,3) - I'm against this pattern. The spacing between 4 and 1 is just same as the 1/2s before, and it's hard to tell that this is a 3/4 slider becuase the SV is too slow. Also this would be played more like an even-number stream because the player have to hold the slider with the primary finger, and start the stream with the secondary finger (in case of a singletap player). If you don't get what I mean, think why https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5514806 this kind of use is generalized.
* 00:35:991 (1) - Yeah what I mean is, please don't do this on a regular Hard diff.
* 00:52:914 (1,1) - No, I'm using a bold text here. There's no reason to put these hard-to-read sliders.
* 01:06:568 (1,2,3,4) - I don't understand why these need 0.50x slowdown. It makes the jumps even weirder too.
* 01:07:914 - There's no sound here, reduce the volume please.
* 01:09:453 (4,6) - This is too far, consider how 01:09:068 (3,4) - this was a 1/1.
* 01:14:260 (6) - Use a 1/4 reverse slider?

[Insane]
* 00:01:953 (2,3,4,5) - No claps on any of these?
* 00:05:030 (4) - 01:12:722 (4) - NCing these makes more sense imo.
* 00:16:568 (2,3) - Kinda weird to have this small distance suddenly, when all these before were 1/2 jumpy.
* 00:39:068 - finish
* 00:41:376 (3,4) - Feels almost like a 1/4 because of some 1/4s like 00:35:991 (1,2,3) - , so use some bigger spacing.
* 00:41:953 - finish
* 00:29:837 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Try to represent the drums better with the hitsounds too.
* 00:33:491 (4) - Change to a 1/2 slider, because it feels too sudden to have an empty spot while the whole map is full of 1/2s.
* 00:48:107 (7,1) - Swap NC, like 00:45:030 (1,2) - 00:46:568 (1,2) -
* 00:55:799 (1) - The slider tail feels too weird. As like you put the finish there, it is a good beat to emphasize, but your notes don't. Just split them into 2 circles.
* 01:06:953 - Add some hitsound here to represent the drum please.
* 01:14:260 - Put a triplet here? It feels too empty to ignore these 1/4s. At least put a note on 01:14:453 - , as a spinner start cannot emphasize anything.

Overall it's not bad. But I really think the Normal should be nerfed a lot and all the diffs still have to be improved with the hitsounds. Fix the Normal, get some more mods especially regarding the hitsounds, then you can call me back if you think the issues are solved.

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-02T03:59:15+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Easy]
Notes are fine, but I think this diff needs some improvement on hitsounding. If you don't like custom hitsounds, you can try default drum samplesets to represent specific drum sounds better too.
* 00:40:222 - Add something like clap here too. It's too empty when there's a lot of drums on the background. ok,i'll use a normal sampleset here
* Also consider adding something like claps on 00:54:645 - 00:55:414 - as well.∧

[Normal]
* There are too many 1/2s, and this made too large gap between Easy. You need to simply the rhythm more, and disconnect long 1/2 trains to compensate the gap. I'll give you some example to nerf them, but it's up to you how you'll actually reduce the overall number of beats. ok,it's truly hard for normal to have too much 1/2s,i'll try to fix them
In case you'll think "They're mostly sliders, it's not harder than clicking 1/1 circles", I'll say these target players actually care about every slider tails too, and gives no time to prepare for the next pattern.
* Also needs some more work on hitsounding.
* 00:17:337 (4,5) - Rather than this, I'll suggesst this for better emphasize on the finishes: http://puu.sh/pMFxg/c4ae22dcd4.jpg feel a little empty at 00:17:337 - ,but fixed
* 00:30:607 (5,6) - These lacks hitsounds, considering how strong the drums are on these notes. For all difficulties, this kind of parts are where I want you to use some drum samplesets.k,gonna have a check of it.
* 00:55:414 - Same, while 00:54:260 - 00:54:645 - 00:55:030 - these all have. An alternative way is to remove it from 00:54:645 - , as it doesn't have a cymbal sound. added a finish on it

[Insane]
* 00:01:953 (2,3,4,5) - No claps on any of these?uh,i think that may be too noisy for the beginning,so i just using whistles
* 01:14:260 - Put a triplet here? It feels too empty to ignore these 1/4s. At least put a note on 01:14:453 - , as a spinner start cannot emphasize anything. placed a note here 01:14:453 -

Overall it's not bad. But I really think the Normal should be nerfed a lot and all the diffs still have to be improved with the hitsounds. Fix the Normal, get some more mods especially regarding the hitsounds, then you can call me back if you think the issues are solved.

No reply or green=fixed
blue=another solution
purple=some comment
yellow=don't want to change

Thank you doyak~
I'll find some more mods these days.

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-07-02T05:20:19+00:00

Doyak wrote:
~~Placeholder, I'll mod this today or tomorrow.~~ editing this post instead of posting new one for 2 kudosu!

[General]
* Kami's Hard doesn't have custom note color. fixed
[Kami's Hard]
Hi Kami, been a long while.
* I'm not fond of those sudden SV changes and amount of jumps, as they're just like an Insane. There's no stone bridge between the Normal diff and this diff. Especially, Insane diff doesn't do those sudden SV changes, so I'd suggest to remove them.
* 00:05:799 (4,1,2,3) - I'm against this pattern. The spacing between 4 and 1 is just same as the 1/2s before, and it's hard to tell that this is a 3/4 slider becuase the SV is too slow. Also this would be played more like an even-number stream because the player have to hold the slider with the primary finger, and start the stream with the secondary finger (in case of a singletap player). If you don't get what I mean, think why https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5514806 this kind of use is generalized. okay fixed
* 00:35:991 (1) - Yeah what I mean is, please don't do this on a regular Hard diff. if you try to remove this you will feel really strange about this slider. I use 0.5x slider because the voice is suddenly stopped.I want to expressthis and I think its nice here.
* 00:52:914 (1,1) - No, I'm using a bold text here. There's no reason to put these hard-to-read sliders. same reason
* 01:06:568 (1,2,3,4) - I don't understand why these need 0.50x slowdown. It makes the jumps even weirder too. because the music is become soft! and I feel some slow sliders is better than fast sliders here
* 01:07:914 - There's no sound here, reduce the volume please. sure~fixed
* 01:09:453 (4,6) - This is too far, consider how 01:09:068 (3,4) - this was a 1/1. here is a slider jump. its really easy to finish
* 01:14:260 (6) - Use a 1/4 reverse slider? okay

Overall it's not bad. But I really think the Normal should be nerfed a lot and all the diffs still have to be improved with the hitsounds. Fix the Normal, get some more mods especially regarding the hitsounds, then you can call me back if you think the issues are solved.

哈哈哈我变速还是不想改233

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Title:Nanka Ii Koto
TitleUnicode:なんかいいこと
Artist:Hatsuki Yura
ArtistUnicode:葉月ゆら
Creator:Hanazawa Kana
Version:Kami's Hard
Source:Ganbare! Memeko-chan
Tags:La Pucelle がんばれ！メメ子ちゃん opening Seifumeigetsu 清風明月 kamisamaaa
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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-02T05:30:26+00:00

@kami: I know what you want to represent here, but what I mean is that it simply is too confusing for the target players. They're not yet prepared to read such sudden changes, especially that consecutive one. It might seem a bit weird not to use it, but it's just basically the same reason why we don't use jumps on Easy even when a sound is extremely stronger than others. I think just using regular speed of 3/4 sliders and using consistent sv is still fine representing the music.

Flower

1,723 posts

Joined August 2011

Flower 2016-07-14T06:19:39+00:00

ok lets see what now

[hitsounds]
看你大部分地方好像也没用soft whistle，试试看这个吧，跟音乐下就行了 http://puu.sh/q17AX/5b6b2c3cce.wav

[Insane]
00:05:030 (1) - 这里用一个比较活泼的形状？e.g.

SPOILER

00:09:837 (1) - 请好好地重新拉一下：贝塞尔曲线的算法使得若只取曲线的一部分，会导致其不对称。长懒看：请把最后一个锚点对准滑条的尾巴，以改善形状。还有其他一堆类似的就不说了
00:15:222 (5) - 稍微放远一点，如299:243

[Hard]
00:08:491 (2) - 好像没叠好
00:14:837 (2,3,4) - blanket，同时调整00:14:453 (1) -
00:17:530 (1,2,3) - 这个1/4跳比较突然，建议还是不要跳。后同
00:19:453 (4,5) - blanket
00:35:991 (1) - 这个变速明显无理啊，bn都说了，我就不说为啥了，包括00:52:914 (1,1,1) -
00:40:607 (1,2) - 包好，接下来还有的就自己看了不说了

次难度没发现什么音效不好，估计应该可以了吧，加油

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-14T08:39:55+00:00

感谢花花我的部分都改了

Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-07-17T16:36:11+00:00

Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Easy

00:24:837 (4,1,2) - 其实可以形成一个正三角形，然后让00:26:760 (3) - blanket 00:24:837 (4) -
00:41:376 (2,3) - 尽量避免easy出现1/2交接吧：

Normal

00:05:799 (6) - 00:18:299 (6) - 00:26:760 (4) - 差点出去，往上移点
00:25:222 (1) - 没必要finish

xiaohuanggua's Hard

od-0.5
00:24:837 (4,3) - stack
00:35:991 (1) - [b]看不懂这个减速的必要性……我觉得反而会confuse gameplay，正常摆一个不行吗
00:52:914 (1,1) - [b]同上，不太建议hard里面玩这种差不多滑条长度的变速梗
00:55:607 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - [b]这有点难了吧？感觉和Normal的gap一下子拉大不少

另外就是finish放得太多了，太吵，我摸得时候都要耳鸣了

Insane

hp+0.5 or 1；od没必要8吧？
看来小黄瓜的音效是从你这里复制的？finish太几把吵了。音效建议参考人格的同一张rank图。

hard稍微降低点难度，到3.3~3.4左右比较好，insane的话就不用了

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-18T01:22:01+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Easy
00:24:837 (4,1,2) - 其实可以形成一个正三角形，然后让00:26:760 (3) - blanket 00:24:837 (4) -
00:41:376 (2,3) - 尽量避免easy出现1/2交接吧：
Normal
00:05:799 (6) - 00:18:299 (6) - 00:26:760 (4) - 差点出去，往上移点
00:25:222 (1) - 没必要finish
Insane
hp+0.5 or 1；od没必要8吧？ od改到7.5了主要是感觉od太低的话就完全没pp了 _(:з」∠)_
看来小黄瓜的音效是从你这里复制的？finish太几把吵了。音效建议参考人格的同一张rank图。
hard稍微降低点难度，到3.3~3.4左右比较好，insane的话就不用了

可都改了
音效的话我把insane的kiai部分都换成大白线finish了(

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-07-18T17:06:22+00:00

卡娜高德

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-07-18T17:29:16+00:00

@老M 除了finish都改了 finish我觉得听起来比较爽啊！

舔屎这里是代码

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 43683
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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TitleUnicode:なんかいいこと
Artist:Hatsuki Yura
ArtistUnicode:葉月ゆら
Creator:Hanazawa Kana
Version:Kami's Hard
Source:Ganbare! Memeko-chan
Tags:La Pucelle がんばれ！メメ子ちゃん opening Seifumeigetsu 清風明月 kamisamaaa
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Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-18T23:40:23+00:00

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Misure wrote:
卡娜高德

米苏高德什么时候带我飞

Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-07-24T13:27:44+00:00

黄瓜's hard：
既然变速去掉了的话那么nc呢？nc也一起去了吧，如果你非要下nc梗不如下在00:54:260 (2,3,4) -

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-07-24T14:07:15+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
黄瓜's hard：
既然变速去掉了的话那么nc呢？nc也一起去了吧，如果你非要下nc梗不如下在00:54:260 (2,3,4) -

我只是单纯的忘了去掉NC 233
改了改了多余的绿线也去掉了！

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Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Topic Starter

Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-24T14:12:50+00:00

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Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-07-25T02:01:00+00:00

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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-25T08:47:21+00:00

[Normal]
* 00:17:914 - Normal sampleset
* 00:20:030 (3,4) - Flow could be improved. I'd use 00:20:030 (3) - with Ctrl+J.
* 00:25:222 - 00:31:376 - Finish
* 00:55:991 (1,2) - This too. I wouldn't really suggest that goes exactly backward after transition on a Normal diff. Something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5686766 will be a better choice.

[Kami's Hard]
* 00:40:222 (5,6,7,1) - Why is it a triplet + note? The drums are definitely in a note + triplet.

[Insane]
* 00:41:953 - Finish
* 00:52:722 - This Normal sampleset feels pretty random, why not just use auto?
* 01:01:376 - Clap like 00:49:068 -
* 01:14:453 - Whistle because it's the most important melody.
* I'm sorry telling this too late. But we have some overmapped objects that hurts the emphasis of the actual sounds. So the ones in problem are 00:17:433 (7) - 00:29:741 (7) - 00:37:433 (7) - 00:43:203 (7) - 00:55:510 (5) - 01:04:741 (6) -
So here's what Natsu (an experienced BN) suggested:

I still think the hitsounds are a bit inconsistent and can be improved. Please check these thoroughly by yourself before calling me back.

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-07-25T13:53:19+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Kami's Hard]
* 00:40:222 (5,6,7,1) - Why is it a triplet + note? The drums are definitely in a note + triplet. okay fix

code

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Title:Nanka Ii Koto
TitleUnicode:なんかいいこと
Artist:Hatsuki Yura
ArtistUnicode:葉月ゆら
Creator:Hanazawa Kana
Version:Kami's Hard
Source:Ganbare! Memeko-chan
Tags:La Pucelle がんばれ！メメ子ちゃん opening Seifumeigetsu 清風明月 kamisamaaa
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Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

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Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-25T14:07:21+00:00

@Doyak
All fixed
For hitsound,this time i try to use claps on every 2nd and 4th white line and use normal sampleset on drums which are not at 2,4 white line.
Also i add some whistles on kiai part to make it sounds more lively.

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-25T23:03:33+00:00

hype pp map

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-07-26T17:59:24+00:00

came from fairy's req❤

dont need kudo for this

current your soft-hitclap sound hard to listen with music when play. how about change? if you agree with me, try to using this one >> http://puu.sh/qffBf/ace5b42e12.wav / i'll send to you something present in forum pm check it

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2016-07-26T18:21:46+00:00

特么的我看了看你的insane 你除了kiai都没用soft-whistle啊！！难怪人家说你音效不行OTZ
我之前不是教你了么人声的高音你就用whistle啊从头到尾！=都要加！

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

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Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-27T01:43:38+00:00

@Euny Thank you~~ I'll have a try of it.
@kamisamaaa 好好好等下我去改

sahuang

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Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-27T05:17:45+00:00

kamisamaaa wrote:
特么的我看了看你的insane 你除了kiai都没用soft-whistle啊！！难怪人家说你音效不行OTZ
我之前不是教你了么人声的高音你就用whistle啊从头到尾！=都要加！

直接无脑f c w c多好www
顺便这图有ranked ver，为什么不能直接炒一下

Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2016-07-27T05:23:23+00:00

Glad we have another hatsuki yura's map, yet this one is the third version of the song :p

Doyak

osu! Alumni

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Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-27T06:04:44+00:00

I have no more problems with the set, but as we changed the hitsound file and changed Easy/Normal's hitsound entirely, let me get a double confirmation from another BN (probably Minakami Yuki) again. (I can't qualify anymore today anyway)

Koiyuki

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Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-07-27T08:08:47+00:00

hao*2

Hanazawa Kana

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Hanazawa Kana 2016-07-27T08:12:15+00:00

感谢M酱~~

Euny