snowball112 wrote:

Heya, random mod, only looking at oni for now.

General

One of the main things that bothers me is the vocal mapping in the beginning, mainly that before 00:28:986 - . This makes the note density too high, even though the part before 00:28:986 - is calmer, I'd suggest you just stick to the instruments before this point because I feel like this would be more beneficial for the intro. For example:

1. in the Kantan: 00:15:553 (9,10) - remove, and remove 00:08:837 (4,5) - as well. What's the point of following vocals only when you combine vocal+instrument really nicely later like after 00:30:330 - ? I agree, removed
2. Oni especially the density contrast feels strange to me with patterns like at 00:15:330 - , why is this mapped more intensely than 00:45:553 - for example? Fixed by modifying the beginning parts

I'd suggest you just use 00:28:986 - as a marker from where to increase the density. I previously got the same suggestion but didn't make a single change for some reasons, I completely agree with your suggestion of focusing on the instrumentals before 00:28:986 - and so I applied changes to each difficulties.

Oni

1. Any specific reason why 00:46:897 - is a finish and stuff like 00:44:658 (90,91) - isn't? (They previously were finisher but I felt the need to remove some after I got the suggestion to - They were too many finishers) I'd suggest you also change 00:47:792 (99,103) - to D and maybe also remove the notes from both 00:48:016 - and 00:49:807, (Which one?) I think this looks neater. Applied your suggestions, it works great after all - And the finisher placement isn't overwhelming as it was before I remove many of them
2. You can also add a k on 00:46:225 - , would be neat to have 2 5-note patterns followed by 2 3-note patterns if you applied the above suggestion. Added, very neat indeed
3. The part from 00:52:270 - to 00:53:837 - feels strange to me because it is mapped opposite to what the music suggests. The intensity goes up, so either move 00:52:382 - to 00:53:277 - or add a k on 00:53:277 - to represent this, a 5-note towards the end of this section would make more sense imo. Adding a k on 00:53:277 - without removing 00:52:382 (84) - would feel too heavy / Your suggestion of moving 00:52:382 (84) - to 00:53:277 - makes then perfect sense to me - Moved it
4. You can remove the note from 00:59:434 - , or move it to 00:59:658, makes more sense to follow the vocal like this because the instrument sound on 00:59:434 - is nowhere near as strong as on 01:01:225. Agreed, it flows way better that way Personally, I find you could also remove 01:00:330 - Removing this note sounds very weird to me, there is a very loud drum sound that I think can't be ignored and makes more sense mapped the way it is and fill out 01:01:897 - like this], cursor on 01:00:777 - . I feel like this would fit the tempo of the song nicely. I completely agree with your suggestion. Similarly applies to other kiai sections. Done!
5. I think you can add a k on 01:09:509 - and change 01:09:956 - to d, I think it would be better if you emphasise the stronger piano on 01:09:509 - with a k and then leave 01:09:956 - as d for contrast to the high sound on 01:10:180 - I think it works really great - Changed .
6. Pretty optional, but I think 01:10:628 - could be d as the pitch in that pattern goes from high to low. Not sure why but I like it as a k, I think it creates a contrast of some sort
7. K on 01:26:300 - would be nice to differentiate in cymbal pitch to the 2 finishers before this one. Really great suggestion - applied
8. It would be nice if you move 01:13:762 - to 01:13:986 - and perhaps delete 01:14:098 - , the 1/1 break fitting to the strong piano would sound much better imo. Your suggestion works fine but I think that emphasizing the drums and vocals works better - No change here
9. I think you can change 01:36:822 - to d and remove 01:37:046 - , the continuous pattern doesn't really emphasize anything. The pause highlights the vocals and piano so well - I agree
10. 01:29:882 - I think this should not be a finish when you emphasize this kind of piano using a triple before. Same with 01:33:464 - . They already are finishers, Did I don't get your suggestion..?
11. 02:00:776 (28,29,30,31) - shouldn't this be kd dk? Better combination of vocal+instrument that way imo. In my opinion it works great as it is : 02:00:776 (28) - Strong drum - 02:01:000 (29) - Higher pitch vocal than 02:00:777 - I guess that's one of these very subjective points
12. Similar to the intro, I feel like the calm part from 01:40:628 - could lose a few notes. I broke long patterns into smaller triples and removed unnecessary notes
13. I'm not convinced that 01:55:404 - d ddk d k d k is the best option here, I think you can try this, cursor on 01:55:852 - . Otherwise you use too much k that messes up the emphasis, eg. if you space 01:57:195 - as 1/1 for the clap, 01:56:747 - should be d to actually contrast the sound. Similar with the pattern at 02:02:568 - . I completely agree - This part was a mess, Thanks for fixing it then! Edit : Added a 1/4 triplet instead of a double as suggested
14. I think using 1/4 in the calm part at 02:52:941 - and 03:00:106 - is not good, the song is relatively calm. The buildup would be much better if you save the 1/4 for after 03:06:598 - when the 1/4 guitar starts from 03:06:598 - . Modified these parts to : kkddk d

The other thing you may want to look over again is the part from 01:12:419 - until 01:40:628 - especially, the way you switch to and from vocals feels kind of sudden at times in my opinion.. I changed some minor details, I don't think these shifts are proplematic

Good luck

zigizigiefe wrote:

Little suggestions for Oni,no kd

01:27:979 - Try to add don for emphasizing vocal,why not? :3 I love it! I'm all for these kind of emphasize!
01:44:882 - 1/2 triplet would be better emphasis for here,try it and make your choice Since it's a calm part I'll keep it as a 1/2 double
01:52:046 - Same above
02:06:150 (46,47) - Delete these notes imo because there isn't music sound,no need to follow vocal for here Hum I get your point but the primary reason why there is notes following the vocals here is for the spread - So I'll keep them for now
03:03:352 - A doublet is better according to vocal,you may follow "dk-d-k" flow I agree, it creates a nice flow and fits the vocals well
03:11:747 (209) - Vocal sound is here:03:11:635 -.Also 03:12:307 (211) - 03:12:195 - I don't think that following the vocals here is the best way to go
03:21:374 (250,251) - Following vocal might be unnecessary for here,but you may keep it if you want :3 Same reason as previously - For the spread"

Welp,looks good.Just wait for BNs ^^ Fingers crossed!

-Tenshi- wrote:

At least go for 64 star priority

HellDawn wrote:

❤️

Arrival wrote:

Remind me to check it by the end of next week if I forgot

Surono wrote:

hello kazezeze, I remem it. dem Jakarta.
I will check

Kazaze wrote:

Arrival wrote:

Remind me to check it by the end of next week if I forgot

Surono wrote:

hello kazezeze, I remem it. dem Jakarta.
I will check

Thank you guys so much oh my god.

zigizigiefe wrote:

Your dream is being real :^)

Surono wrote:

* 00:46:893 (15,16) - on muzukashii, these is finisher but other diffs are not filled finisher. would remove it or apply for other diffs? Removed
* 00:50:699 - delete this on muzukashii, 00:53:273 - 00:53:385 - add dons, 00:53:833 - 00:53:945 - delete these. 00:54:057 - finish Applied, I love it
* 00:52:042 - kat this on futsuu? Works great, changed
* 00:59:878 - 01:07:042 - kat for muzukashii Fixed
* 01:39:728 - why not finish for all diff? have high impact like 01:40:624 - this Fixed
* 02:11:520 - 02:18:684 - 02:51:818 - kat all, 3rd point for all diff Not sure about 02:51:818 - being a kat ; In my opinion it works better as a don since it enphasizes the following finisher kat
* 03:14:206 - 03:14:430 - swap for muzukashii, 03:15:997 - 03:16:221 - these Changed to kdk just like in the Oni
* 03:24:952 - ~

03:55:624 - jekartaaaa c:

Surono wrote:

00:00:336 - unsnapped green lines on Oni

Surono wrote:

overall for lower diffs good enough with spread, kantan seems applied easier strucutre. few density is close with futsuu but overall I checkd them is balance in some places, next BN can check them.

let's give it try

Arrival wrote:

Salut !

Quelques petites remarques :

01:11:967 - 01:33:460 (120) - Ces notes sont inconstantes au travers de tes difficultés, des fois c'est avec finisher des fois non, des fois c'est kat des fois don. Standardise les, surtout que ce sont des downbeats assez importants. Corrigé ; 01:33:460 (120) - K sur toutes les difficultés

01:47:788 - Finish en Inner et Muzu / small en Kantan et Futsuu Corrigé - Finisher sur toutes les difficultés

02:37:937 - 02:52:266 - Cette partie ne change pas selon la difficulté ce qui rend le spread assez incohérent. Tu peux légèrement l'augmenter au travers des difficultés. Je ne suis pas certain de vouloir / pouvoir mapper cette partie davantage sans "over-mapper" ; Cela ne m'apparaît pas comme être un problème mais si c'est vraiment quelque-chose qui doit être modifié, je chercherais alors des façon de la modifier.

[Kantan]

01:20:475 (73) - Le BPM est assez lent mais supprimer cette note laisserait un break 4/1 assez apprécié pour les nouveaux joueurs, sachant que le dernier break comme celui la remonte a avant le kiai. Supprimé - En plus d'ajouter un break cela met en valeur la structure plus dense qui suit à 01:34:803 (92,93) -

02:22:714 (151) - Dans le meme ordre d'idée. Ca donnera un plus gros impact a ton finish après aussi. Je suis d'accord, supprimé

03:52:266 (44) - Et là de même. D'accord ; dans ce cas je pense qu'il faut également enlever le don sur 04:03:012 - pour finir avec un break similaire
04:05:251 (62) - Le finish sonne étrange ici par contre, la fin de la song va plutot sur un bas volume. Je ne sais pas, il me convient puisqu'ici je pense qu'un finisher permet de bien souligner le "Hey!" des vocals et comme son nom l'indique de finir la chanson

[Muzukashii]

01:10:624 (74) - Un peu trop dense avec les triplets. Delete cette note. (Surtout qu'il n'y a pas de son en plus) Corrigé ; Il n'y a qu'une fois que je l'ai supprimée que je me rend compte que cette note était complétement aberrante

[Oni]

01:15:997 (83,84,85,86) - Mapper subitement le vocal sonne étrange vu que tu étais surtout sur l'instru la mesure d'avant. Je te conseille ceci pour garder le tick bleu du vocal sans changer fondamentalement ton patterning. Ca fonctionne bien ; Appliqué

03:04:243 (8) - Dans la meme idée cette note ne joue sur rien, la déplacer a 03:04:355 - , la changer en d puis mettre cette note 03:04:579 (9) - en k serit un meilleur compromis. Cette partie m'a toujours dérrangé ; Corrigé Pour éviter la répétition tu peux changer cette note 03:05:027 (10) - en k après, ou celle la 03:05:251 (11) - en don. Je ne pense pas modifier les notes qui suivent puisqu'elles suivent la mélodie mappées ainsi

03:43:758 - Seule difficulté avec un finisher ici. Corrigé - Enlevé le finisher

Rappelle moi et je rebubble. Tu pourras demander a Surono un autre recheck. D'accord d'accord!

Arrival wrote:

Ok ça me va, rebub.

Good luck