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MAXIMUM THE HORMONE - A-L-I-E-N

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Myxo
Grand mapping. This is exactly what my interpretation of this song would look like, except I wouldn't be able to pull it off and finish it. Also everyone complaining about the slidershapes being 'ugly' should calm down and think for a moment. The sliders are just as 'ugly' as the song, both in a good way.

EDIT: Also, please stop saying it goes against any 'standards of quality'.
Spaghetti
why, you literally have no reasoning exept that it looks ugly, despite what the rc says, and the song portrays. if you says it goes against standards of quality, pull up the rc and show us where.

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VINXIS
who givs a shit if this map is shit or not lo maximum the hormome was alrdy fukd on osu! cuz of louis cyphre rip ; /
Spaghetti
continue the trend
orbital gun
already edited my shitpost hloyy -_ -


remov 280 stremjump and we'r oko dad
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VINXIS wrote:

who givs a shit if this map is shit or not lo maximum the hormome was alrdy fukd on osu! cuz of louis cyphre rip ; /
I'm pretty sure some people who care about the current ranking system care whether or not a shitmap becomes the hardest ranked map in the game but that's just my opinion. If some mappers find it (insert big fancy art phrase here xd) while the vast majority of people don't then that's whatever.

P.S this is also my opinion but I can almost guarantee this map was purely made just to be the hardest ranked hopefully not map regardless of its playability or aesthetics.
VINXIS
it was made to look like shit/for aesthetic purposez not to be the ahrdest ranked map u can ask monstrata huimself

if som parts that actualy "boost" sr play lik shit hed proly chang it..
deathmarc4
what needs to happen before the ranking system is changed to combat this garbage? how has this gone on so long?
Tassadar
There's never going to be a complete consensus on the map, because the map looks ugly because of the song.

Some inherently agree with this idea. I'm one of those people - I think the map should look chaotic and ugly, because the song is inherently chaotic, ugly and a very rough thrash song, so it seems to fit the music perfectly to me (as long as playability hasn't been hindered).
Others inherently disagree, that ugliness should never be used as an inherent concept and that this map is bad because of it.
Which is why there's never going to be an agreement. Either way it's not against the ranking criteria, so it shouldn't stand in the way of this getting ranked.

As for playability - how much playtesting has there been? The patterns seem fine to me but I'm not good enough to judge ofc (only able to pass because hp3). That should be the determining factor here imo.
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deathmarc4 wrote:

what needs to happen before the ranking system is changed to combat this garbage? how has this gone on so long?
Because AFAIK your opinion doesn't matter unless you're relevant in the mapping community, and just remember that it doesnt matter how unpolished and disgusting your map is you can just say "hurt durr that's the point you silly billy xd" its like Hollow Wings all over again. Playability should always be the most important aspect of making maps for ranking. This is a fucking game to have fun clicking circles not to have fun making "artistic" maps for teh lulz that almost no players will enjoy. If you wanna argue how this map fits the song then go ahead but you could rank shit like ZigZag Hacker and most rabbit style jump maps with that argument if you wanted to.
snoverpk_old
this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
VINXIS
opinionz dont matter in the ranking process rofl

i think its shit but its still perfectly rankable regardless of my opinion (it also is gud at wot the map is tryna do)

snoverpk wrote:

this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
no the whole thread is mre of an opinion shitfest moreso than arguments implying ur talking about "sound" aguments
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VINXIS wrote:

opinionz dont matter in the ranking process rofl

i think its shit but its still perfectly rankable regardless of my opinion (it also is gud at wot the map is tryna do)
Putting aside your meme speak, what do you consider the meaning of "rankable"? Shouldn't it be a map that fits the song, plays well, timed properly, and not over/under mapped?
Broodich


this map is rly fun i hope it gets ranked :D
VINXIS
thats not wot it is rn

theoretically a new mapper that has a timed map, hitsounded, has combo colours, e.t.c e.t.c. can get their map ranked in the rpesent day while it used 2 be stricter in the past

as long as no1 talks sht about the map that sounds remotely relevant when ur map is qualified its 100% getting ranked
Vivyanne

snoverpk wrote:

this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
while like everyone gets hammered on because the aesthetics in their map isn't right and the map looks ugly by the BN and therefor don't want to bubble their map

i can imagine people saying that this is bs


but i guess this map makes sense tho with its uglyness
Spaghetti
id like to see one other person who thinks this map shouldnt be ranked cuz its so ugly do what shiirn did anf actually provide timing points and concrete evidenc of anything in the map that should be noted and improved be4 ranking cuz opinions dont mean shit and dont contribute to the map at all :\
dZark
this map shouldnt be ranked cuz its so ugly
I Must Decrease
As of right now the ranking criteria allows for LITERALLY any map to be ranked so long as it is timed correctly and follow basic mapping sense (aka no double notes etc). Ranking criteria takes 0 notion of what is playable or what looks good or bad, so pointing to RC for why this should or shouldn't be ranked is useless.

Ultimately Monstrata can do whatever he wants so long as 3 BNs agree with his opinion. Even if the map is DQ'd, since the community has no ability to truly enforce their opinions upon Monstrata, all it will take is time for those with resisting opinions to give up.

If you have a problem with this, push your attention to the ranking criteria and modding / qualified process in general.



My one complaint is how this is mapped for approval with a really long spinner at the beginning and end that basically map noise. This makes this song inaccessible to 99.99999% of the community when the actual song is more along the lines of 4 minutes and thirty seconds of actual beatmapping. If Monstrata actually put forth the effort to make a full set rather than lazily find a way to get 100 milliseconds over the minimum requirement for approval people likely wouldn't have nearly as much issue.
Bonsai
Hello, I am a completely uninvolved BN who has never M4M'd with any other BN since he became BN and I just wanted to say that I like this map and I hope it gets ranked soon once the timing-issues have been fixed

ok cya guys
Illkryn
hey guys look at me im in a drama thread

if it was bubbled and you don't like it help it improve?

i think im saying this in every drama thread now but if you don't like it, ignore it.

i looked at the map and i dont rly mind tbh i want it to rank so i can get a phatty pass on it tbh

also all u slow noobs always so emotional over maps u cant play xddd
Ekoro
i am shocked that this thing got bubbled

seriously, is "mapping ugly on purpose" a trend now? can't you map well during the whole map like you did on road of resistance?
ok the song is sometimes going weird, but that doesn't mean you have to do newbie-like stuff and let it pass because you're known, song isn't a valid reason to use such ugly patterns
you can still emphasize those parts by just adding slightly more spacing, it's better and it hurts less

i'm not against the 8,5* map but difficulty doesn't mean you have to lower the quality. the song fits enough to have such rating, yes, but this map just looks odd

all those memes maps are just enough, just to make people laugh at those maps like "haha ur memes are good bro". just make a good difficult quality map instead of doing such a bad map holy shit

sometimes i wonder if your maps should be even considered serious at this state

just my opinion
pkhg
those sliders reminded me of the deus ex diff on this map lo https://osu.ppy.sh/s/38459
also isnt this too much 01:41:219 (4,1) -
dqs01733
8-) 8-)
Spaghetti
i dont understand why ugly sliders = bad quality it makes no sense lol
emilia
so many shit arguments in this thread

its 0502 in the morning

have this beauty of a remap
vincaslt
"Pretty Ugly" quite well defines this map.
VINXIS

estellia- wrote:

so many shit arguments in this thread

its 0502 in the morning

have this beauty of a remap
LMAOOOOO
Spaghetti

estellia- wrote:

so many shit arguments in this thread

its 0502 in the morning

have this beauty of a remap
L O L o l l ol o o l lo l

just goes to show how people really dont know what theyre talking about

post of the year
Kaifin

estellia- wrote:

so many shit arguments in this thread

its 0502 in the morning

have this beauty of a remap
10/10
Ciyus Miapah
i don't care for your single meme :>

you're not mazzerin who map crazy deathstreams in every maps he made
you're not Ekoro who mapped Time Freeze with extra effort
you're not lesjuh who made a good map in 2009
you're not val0108 who made a really stylish sliders map
you're not hanzer who made a stream with a jump
you're not me who map a crazy fullscreen jumps

im waiting for epic qualified posts in here (and waiting people who can pass this map without NF or HT)

nice ending btw
Giralda

Fort wrote:

i don't care for your single meme :>

you're not mazzerin who map crazy deathstreams in every maps he made
you're not Ekoro who mapped Time Freeze with extra effort
you're not lesjuh who made a good map in 2009
you're not val0108 who made a really stylish sliders map
you're not hanzer who made a stream with a jump
you're not me who map a crazy fullscreen jumps

im waiting for epic qualified posts in here (and waiting people who can pass this map without NF or HT)

nice ending btw
no respect for nold ok :V
captin1
i love when people who don't understand anything that they're talking about try and criticize a map for doing what the creator intended. the messy sliders absolutely fit the style of the song, so stop being a bunch of r/osugame shitlords and take a hike. there's no reason to say that sliders done erratically mean that the "map quality" is low, if you think that you're completely shallow.

gl monstrata hope these people leave you alone soon
Yunomi
hey nathan lol
Giralda

Yunomi wrote:

hey nathan lol
yea wots up
Nakano Itsuki
hi nathan!
Booze
i think it would be beautiful if the map had an ugly difficulty and a beautiful difficulty
deathmarc4

isopaharuntikka wrote:

i think it would be beautiful if the map had an ugly difficulty and a beautiful difficulty
you really think he would make two difficulties for this song? he put a 15 second spinner over nothing at the end of the song just so he could go for marathon
Sing

deathmarc4 wrote:

isopaharuntikka wrote:

i think it would be beautiful if the map had an ugly difficulty and a beautiful difficulty
you really think he would make two difficulties for this song? he put a 15 second spinner over nothing at the end of the song just so he could go for marathon
what do u mean nothing the audio was fading out lol
Kiyohime
The unfortunate thing is that it's literally just a matter of time. Even if a lot of people dislike the map for what it is or what it does, it's Monstrata and the circlejerk is real; it will eventually reach rank.
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