Hmmm really makes u think...Default wrote:
The ugliest thing about the map is this thread.
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very insightful point my friendReddit wrote:
Hmmm really makes u think...Default wrote:
The ugliest thing about the map is this thread.
shut UP deetzdeetz wrote:
very insightful point my friendReddit wrote:
Hmmm really makes u think...
i think he was talkin about u detz...deetz wrote:
very insightful point my friend
well
if the map is intend to be ugly then saying this map is so ugly might be a compliment instead xd
#Mind = Blown
the guitar intro sound like 1/3 for me tho lmao
if the map is intend to be ugly then saying this map is so ugly might be a compliment instead xd
#Mind = Blown
the guitar intro sound like 1/3 for me tho lmao
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Hmm alright I'll take your guy's advice and remap every 1/4 triplet into 1/3. I interpreted the 1/4's as the guitarist struggling to catch up, with the snapping intended to be 1/4, not 1/3. I think if they had intended for the guitar to be 1/3 the 2nd strum of the guitar wouldn't be so consistently early (by a few ms). That's how I interpreted it anyways.
I wanted the metal part to look aesthetically ugly and chaotic, so thanks for reaffirming my success in this map!
I wanted the metal part to look aesthetically ugly and chaotic, so thanks for reaffirming my success in this map!
ok what u guys dont understand is that if the map was the same without the ugly sliders you wouldnt be complaining :\
well yea but that doesnt change the fact that it looks like complete horseshit and predates 2009 mapping
thats like sayin you'd be ok with a pile of dogshit in front of you if the owner of the dog said that it was meant to be there xd
thats like sayin you'd be ok with a pile of dogshit in front of you if the owner of the dog said that it was meant to be there xd
so what if it looks like horseshit it plays and goes with the song perfectly
you open the map and theres obvious structure to be found
people are saying monstrata doesnt know shit when they cant even distinguish strucuture from pretty maps - _ -
you open the map and theres obvious structure to be found
people are saying monstrata doesnt know shit when they cant even distinguish strucuture from pretty maps - _ -
anyhow it takes much more effort to ensure every slider fits the music than just putting straight and curved ones like any normal map so people who say monstrata put no effort into this think again
Grand mapping. This is exactly what my interpretation of this song would look like, except I wouldn't be able to pull it off and finish it. Also everyone complaining about the slidershapes being 'ugly' should calm down and think for a moment. The sliders are just as 'ugly' as the song, both in a good way.
EDIT: Also, please stop saying it goes against any 'standards of quality'.
EDIT: Also, please stop saying it goes against any 'standards of quality'.
why, you literally have no reasoning exept that it looks ugly, despite what the rc says, and the song portrays. if you says it goes against standards of quality, pull up the rc and show us where.
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who givs a shit if this map is shit or not lo maximum the hormome was alrdy fukd on osu! cuz of louis cyphre rip ; /
continue the trend
already edited my shitpost hloyy -_ -
remov 280 stremjump and we'r oko dad
remov 280 stremjump and we'r oko dad
I'm pretty sure some people who care about the current ranking system care whether or not a shitmap becomes the hardest ranked map in the game but that's just my opinion. If some mappers find it (insert big fancy art phrase here xd) while the vast majority of people don't then that's whatever.VINXIS wrote:
who givs a shit if this map is shit or not lo maximum the hormome was alrdy fukd on osu! cuz of louis cyphre rip ; /
P.S this is also my opinion but I can almost guarantee this map was purely made just to be the hardest ranked hopefully not map regardless of its playability or aesthetics.
it was made to look like shit/for aesthetic purposez not to be the ahrdest ranked map u can ask monstrata huimself
if som parts that actualy "boost" sr play lik shit hed proly chang it..
if som parts that actualy "boost" sr play lik shit hed proly chang it..
what needs to happen before the ranking system is changed to combat this garbage? how has this gone on so long?
There's never going to be a complete consensus on the map, because the map looks ugly because of the song.
Some inherently agree with this idea. I'm one of those people - I think the map should look chaotic and ugly, because the song is inherently chaotic, ugly and a very rough thrash song, so it seems to fit the music perfectly to me (as long as playability hasn't been hindered).
Others inherently disagree, that ugliness should never be used as an inherent concept and that this map is bad because of it.
Which is why there's never going to be an agreement. Either way it's not against the ranking criteria, so it shouldn't stand in the way of this getting ranked.
As for playability - how much playtesting has there been? The patterns seem fine to me but I'm not good enough to judge ofc (only able to pass because hp3). That should be the determining factor here imo.
Some inherently agree with this idea. I'm one of those people - I think the map should look chaotic and ugly, because the song is inherently chaotic, ugly and a very rough thrash song, so it seems to fit the music perfectly to me (as long as playability hasn't been hindered).
Others inherently disagree, that ugliness should never be used as an inherent concept and that this map is bad because of it.
Which is why there's never going to be an agreement. Either way it's not against the ranking criteria, so it shouldn't stand in the way of this getting ranked.
As for playability - how much playtesting has there been? The patterns seem fine to me but I'm not good enough to judge ofc (only able to pass because hp3). That should be the determining factor here imo.
Because AFAIK your opinion doesn't matter unless you're relevant in the mapping community, and just remember that it doesnt matter how unpolished and disgusting your map is you can just say "hurt durr that's the point you silly billy xd" its like Hollow Wings all over again. Playability should always be the most important aspect of making maps for ranking. This is a fucking game to have fun clicking circles not to have fun making "artistic" maps for teh lulz that almost no players will enjoy. If you wanna argue how this map fits the song then go ahead but you could rank shit like ZigZag Hacker and most rabbit style jump maps with that argument if you wanted to.deathmarc4 wrote:
what needs to happen before the ranking system is changed to combat this garbage? how has this gone on so long?
this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
opinionz dont matter in the ranking process rofl
i think its shit but its still perfectly rankable regardless of my opinion (it also is gud at wot the map is tryna do)
i think its shit but its still perfectly rankable regardless of my opinion (it also is gud at wot the map is tryna do)
no the whole thread is mre of an opinion shitfest moreso than arguments implying ur talking about "sound" agumentssnoverpk wrote:
this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
Putting aside your meme speak, what do you consider the meaning of "rankable"? Shouldn't it be a map that fits the song, plays well, timed properly, and not over/under mapped?VINXIS wrote:
opinionz dont matter in the ranking process rofl
i think its shit but its still perfectly rankable regardless of my opinion (it also is gud at wot the map is tryna do)
thats not wot it is rn
theoretically a new mapper that has a timed map, hitsounded, has combo colours, e.t.c e.t.c. can get their map ranked in the rpesent day while it used 2 be stricter in the past
as long as no1 talks sht about the map that sounds remotely relevant when ur map is qualified its 100% getting ranked
theoretically a new mapper that has a timed map, hitsounded, has combo colours, e.t.c e.t.c. can get their map ranked in the rpesent day while it used 2 be stricter in the past
as long as no1 talks sht about the map that sounds remotely relevant when ur map is qualified its 100% getting ranked
while like everyone gets hammered on because the aesthetics in their map isn't right and the map looks ugly by the BN and therefor don't want to bubble their mapsnoverpk wrote:
this entire thread is a bunch of nonsensical arguing
i mean seriously listen to yourself "ewww this map isn't aesthetic where are the qats pls only aesthetic we need triangles"
i can imagine people saying that this is bs
but i guess this map makes sense tho with its uglyness
id like to see one other person who thinks this map shouldnt be ranked cuz its so ugly do what shiirn did anf actually provide timing points and concrete evidenc of anything in the map that should be noted and improved be4 ranking cuz opinions dont mean shit and dont contribute to the map at all :\
As of right now the ranking criteria allows for LITERALLY any map to be ranked so long as it is timed correctly and follow basic mapping sense (aka no double notes etc). Ranking criteria takes 0 notion of what is playable or what looks good or bad, so pointing to RC for why this should or shouldn't be ranked is useless.
Ultimately Monstrata can do whatever he wants so long as 3 BNs agree with his opinion. Even if the map is DQ'd, since the community has no ability to truly enforce their opinions upon Monstrata, all it will take is time for those with resisting opinions to give up.
If you have a problem with this, push your attention to the ranking criteria and modding / qualified process in general.
My one complaint is how this is mapped for approval with a really long spinner at the beginning and end that basically map noise. This makes this song inaccessible to 99.99999% of the community when the actual song is more along the lines of 4 minutes and thirty seconds of actual beatmapping. If Monstrata actually put forth the effort to make a full set rather than lazily find a way to get 100 milliseconds over the minimum requirement for approval people likely wouldn't have nearly as much issue.
Ultimately Monstrata can do whatever he wants so long as 3 BNs agree with his opinion. Even if the map is DQ'd, since the community has no ability to truly enforce their opinions upon Monstrata, all it will take is time for those with resisting opinions to give up.
If you have a problem with this, push your attention to the ranking criteria and modding / qualified process in general.
My one complaint is how this is mapped for approval with a really long spinner at the beginning and end that basically map noise. This makes this song inaccessible to 99.99999% of the community when the actual song is more along the lines of 4 minutes and thirty seconds of actual beatmapping. If Monstrata actually put forth the effort to make a full set rather than lazily find a way to get 100 milliseconds over the minimum requirement for approval people likely wouldn't have nearly as much issue.
Hello, I am a completely uninvolved BN who has never M4M'd with any other BN since he became BN and I just wanted to say that I like this map and I hope it gets ranked soon once the timing-issues have been fixed 
ok cya guys
ok cya guys
hey guys look at me im in a drama thread
if it was bubbled and you don't like it help it improve?
i think im saying this in every drama thread now but if you don't like it, ignore it.
i looked at the map and i dont rly mind tbh i want it to rank so i can get a phatty pass on it tbh
also all u slow noobs always so emotional over maps u cant play xddd
if it was bubbled and you don't like it help it improve?
i think im saying this in every drama thread now but if you don't like it, ignore it.
i looked at the map and i dont rly mind tbh i want it to rank so i can get a phatty pass on it tbh
also all u slow noobs always so emotional over maps u cant play xddd
i am shocked that this thing got bubbled
seriously, is "mapping ugly on purpose" a trend now? can't you map well during the whole map like you did on road of resistance?
ok the song is sometimes going weird, but that doesn't mean you have to do newbie-like stuff and let it pass because you're known, song isn't a valid reason to use such ugly patterns
you can still emphasize those parts by just adding slightly more spacing, it's better and it hurts less
i'm not against the 8,5* map but difficulty doesn't mean you have to lower the quality. the song fits enough to have such rating, yes, but this map just looks odd
all those memes maps are just enough, just to make people laugh at those maps like "haha ur memes are good bro". just make a good difficult quality map instead of doing such a bad map holy shit
sometimes i wonder if your maps should be even considered serious at this state
just my opinion
seriously, is "mapping ugly on purpose" a trend now? can't you map well during the whole map like you did on road of resistance?
ok the song is sometimes going weird, but that doesn't mean you have to do newbie-like stuff and let it pass because you're known, song isn't a valid reason to use such ugly patterns
you can still emphasize those parts by just adding slightly more spacing, it's better and it hurts less
i'm not against the 8,5* map but difficulty doesn't mean you have to lower the quality. the song fits enough to have such rating, yes, but this map just looks odd
all those memes maps are just enough, just to make people laugh at those maps like "haha ur memes are good bro". just make a good difficult quality map instead of doing such a bad map holy shit
sometimes i wonder if your maps should be even considered serious at this state
just my opinion
those sliders reminded me of the deus ex diff on this map lo https://osu.ppy.sh/s/38459
also isnt this too much 01:41:219 (4,1) -
also isnt this too much 01:41:219 (4,1) -
i dont understand why ugly sliders = bad quality it makes no sense lol
LMAOOOOOestellia- wrote:
so many shit arguments in this thread
its 0502 in the morning
have this beauty of a remap