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DeRandom Otaku
2,136 posts
Joined November 2014
DeRandom Otaku
Hi~

Insane

  1. 00:53:323 (4) - idk but the placement feels a bit weird
  2. 01:05:133 (4,5) - players might have hard time telling if this is actually 1/4 .. it looks like a 1/2 jump
  3. 03:04:358 (6) - ctrl+g? and 03:04:530 (7) - this one too

CBH

  1. 00:24:875 (1,1) - blanket
  2. 00:55:220 - 01:06:254 - 01:17:289 - PLEASE make these clickable ;w;
  3. 02:11:599 (4,5) - isnt the DS supposed to be 1.4 here?
  4. 02:31:427 (6,2) - uh... overlap
  5. 03:07:633 (4) - nc plz
Solid map ~ gl gl gl
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Hi~ Hello

Insane

  1. 00:53:323 (4) - idk but the placement feels a bit weird Plays fine tho. This is the first complaint I've got about this so I'll change if I get more.
  2. 01:05:133 (4,5) - players might have hard time telling if this is actually 1/4 .. it looks like a 1/2 jump Because of spacing right? I'm aware that a lot of people use spacing to show when to click the next note. However I don't do that in my insanes at all. All of my spacing is for emphasis and this is something I like to preach. I firmly believe that spacing in Insane+ diffs should always be used for emphasis and not for reading. Anyway yeah it's spaced like that to emphasize the drum.
  3. 03:04:358 (6) - ctrl+g? and 03:04:530 (7) - this one too Sure
Solid map ~ gl gl gl Thank you ^^
Rieri
905 posts
Joined December 2014
Rieri
Hello~ NM from my queue

Insane
  1. 00:57:289 (5) - I would NC here due to it being different and spaced off stream
  2. 02:02:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds more like this rhythm to me
  3. 02:46:599 (5) - this can be easily mistaken as the same slider as 02:46:255 (4) -
  4. 03:04:875 (1) - making this a long slider could increase impact as it goes to 03:05:392 (2) -

Sorry for such a short mod, really nice map and good consistency. I hope to see this get ranked soon
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

ProEzreal wrote:

Hello~ NM from my queue

Insane
  1. 00:57:289 (5) - I would NC here due to it being different and spaced off stream Yeah
  2. 02:02:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds more like this rhythm to me No it doesn't
  3. 02:46:599 (5) - this can be easily mistaken as the same slider as 02:46:255 (4) - Well idk what to do about that
  4. 03:04:875 (1) - making this a long slider could increase impact as it goes to 03:05:392 (2) - Think it's fine as is.

Sorry for such a short mod, really nice map and good consistency. I hope to see this get ranked soon
Thank you.
Beomsan
1,878 posts
Joined November 2013
Beomsan
hey there, m4m from my Q
I'm so happy If you can understand my english. :<
my english sucks

[General]
AIBat
  1. Inconsistency in combo colours
    Insane
    Combo1 : 71,160,116
    Combo3 : 70,72,172
    Combo4 : 210,106,77
[Normal]
  1. 02:56:599 (1) - I think If you makes a curve here. it'll be better than before. also it leads to 02:51:082 (1) - sliders consistency.
  2. 01:41:427 - how about change the volume to 5% (also Insane diff)

    I can't mod it since It's tooooooooo good map.
[Advanced]
  1. 02:12:978 (2) - The red dot is not fit at all in my thought. consider the overall atmosphere. I recommend 2 dots slider!
  2. 02:26:771 (1) - same as above. how about this?
  3. 02:40:564 (2) - ^ 02:40:047 (1) - ctrl+hjg?

    wow. I think I'll be your fan.
[CBH's Hard]
  1. 01:03:151 (4,5,6,1) - It seems very difficult to read.
  2. 01:06:254 - here is clearly clickable in my opinion. 01:05:909 (4) - I recommend reducing the length of the slider and 01:06:254 - add a note.

    oh my god. It's perfect.
[Insane]
  1. 00:34:530 (5) - 00:34:875 (9) - I heard just a little different sounds at here. how about this rhythm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5790682
  2. 00:40:047 (5) - same as above!
  3. 00:51:082 (5) - I think here is same sound with 00:51:427 (1) - here so recommend 1/4 slider
  4. 02:52:547 (6) - I recommend delete this note. it would be good to emphasize 02:52:461 (5) - this.

    Masterpiece.
I had to modding hard. but not much to say.
Awesome rhythms, Beautiful arrangements, Good Music, Do I need to evaluate it?
I have no qualifications. lol
anyway, that's all from me. sorry for poor mod.
but hope it helps...
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

Beomsan wrote:

hey there, m4m from my Q
I'm so happy If you can understand my english. :<
my english sucks

[General]
AIBat
  1. Inconsistency in combo colours
    Insane
    Combo1 : 71,160,116
    Combo3 : 70,72,172
    Combo4 : 210,106,77
Oh yeah forgot to change the colours in the other diffs.

[Normal]
  1. 02:56:599 (1) - I think If you makes a curve here. it'll be better than before. also it leads to 02:51:082 (1) - sliders consistency. It's better to have changing aesthetics than static consistent aesthetics or it will get boring to look at.
  2. 01:41:427 - how about change the volume to 5% (also Insane diff) Sure

    I can't mod it since It's tooooooooo good map.
[Advanced]
  1. 02:12:978 (2) - The red dot is not fit at all in my thought. consider the overall atmosphere. I recommend 2 dots slider! Just changed to a curved slider
  2. 02:26:771 (1) - same as above. how about this? Ok
  3. 02:40:564 (2) - ^ 02:40:047 (1) - ctrl+hjg? I'll leave these two as they are

    wow. I think I'll be your fan.
[Insane]
  1. 00:34:530 (5) - 00:34:875 (9) - I heard just a little different sounds at here. how about this rhythm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5790682
  2. 00:40:047 (5) - same as above! I originaly had something for these but did a simplere rhythm for playability. I've now changed them again but I didn't use your suggestion.
  3. 00:51:082 (5) - I think here is same sound with 00:51:427 (1) - here so recommend 1/4 slider Nah that would ruin the rhythm
  4. 02:52:547 (6) - I recommend delete this note. it would be good to emphasize 02:52:461 (5) - this. I'm only emphasising the stronger notes in the stream during the kiai so no

    Masterpiece.
I had to modding hard. but not much to say.
Awesome rhythms, Beautiful arrangements, Good Music, Do I need to evaluate it?
I have no qualifications. lol
anyway, that's all from me. sorry for poor mod.
but hope it helps...
Thanks for the mod and the flattery lol ^^
riktoi
711 posts
Joined September 2014
riktoi
hi from my mod queue

[insane]
00:56:513 - you should probably cut this hitcircle out to put more focus to the jumpstream pattern

charles would be proud about those hanzer streams

[hard]
00:16:599 (1) - might as well go all the way and center this

[normal]
nothing

[easy]
nothing

nothing else to say really, consistency is good and all that

hitsounds when
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

riktoi wrote:

hi from my mod queue

[insane]
00:56:513 - you should probably cut this hitcircle out to put more focus to the jumpstream pattern No that'd be ignoring and important note.

charles would be proud about those hanzer streams wat dat?

[normal]
nothing

[easy]
nothing

nothing else to say really, consistency is good and all that

hitsounds when when atsu is finished
Mod's too short to deserve kudosu sorry :3 thanks tho
Makeli
932 posts
Joined October 2013
Makeli
hei!!!!!!!

yea i was supposed to mod this a lot earlier but stuff came up
good thing you all are this consistent so i don't need to point things out twice lol

insane
  1. 00:45:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - uh why is this stream and 00:34:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - this stream mapped differently even tho they're 100% the same thing i think. I know you like consistency
  2. 00:50:220 (3) - i would make the slidershape differ somehow from 00:49:702 (1) - cause different sounds but idk maybe the emphasis by movement is enough. Players won't notice this tho
  3. 00:56:944 (1) - man these jumps are pretty big for an insane
  4. 01:07:891 (4,1) - the sharp movement here will be super hard for the player since streams play a lot differently from normal jumps (as you probably know lol). You also didn't do this sharp jump thing before so bleh
  5. 01:19:358 (5,6) - tbh i think these would be better as triples but your choice. Also don't silence the sliderend since the sound there is just as powerful as the others
  6. 01:27:289 (1,2) - this would be much more comfortable to play if the red tick was clickable but yea song and sounds. Again just a pretty minor suggestion
  7. 02:25:220 (3,4,5,6,7) - again i personally don't like this lol since i always read these wrong. This is what i'd do cause movement and reading
  8. idk what to point out good stuff
What i'm concerned about is the spread between these two. CBH's diff doesn't have any long streams (like a hard shouldn't) and then you have a huge jump in difficulty with those streamjumps you have. If the streamjump you had were like this then there would be no problem imo cause those don't require that much speed and aim but still give nice emphasis to sounds.

cbh
  1. 00:54:875 (4) - give this a sharper movement or more spacing cause kick/snare sound w/e
  2. 01:03:495 (1) - stacking this under the triple kind leaves this without emphasis. And it's confusing to read/play (personally)
  3. 01:26:599 (1) - wanna make the sliderend a circle? Cause powerful sound
  4. 02:04:185 (1) - didn't you map this sound as a 1/1 slider previously?
  5. 02:20:737 (1) - yea emphasis again
  6. 02:56:254 (5) - hm i don't really like how you accelerate spacing here suddenly. I mean shouldn't 02:56:599 (1) - get more emphasis than 02:56:254 (5) - ?
  7. good stuff too
advanced
  1. 01:05:392 - this feels really empty with out anything to click. How about a 1/2 slider so you can get the snare on this red tick too
  2. f!
nrml
  1. what am i supposed to mod here lol
hitsound stuff for atsuro woo
  1. 00:35:909 (1) - how about you use the drum-whistles on these cause these sound like hihat sounds in the song?
  2. good hitsounds otherwise lol
idk pretty useless mod tbh lol
habe a star
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

Maakkeli wrote:

hei!!!!!!!

yea i was supposed to mod this a lot earlier but stuff came up Better late than never
good thing you all are this consistent so i don't need to point things out twice lol

insane
  1. 00:45:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - uh why is this stream and 00:34:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - this stream mapped differently even tho they're 100% the same thing i think. I know you like consistency Umm In songs where there music is consistent for long periods of time what I like to do is create two seperate rhythm patterns and alternate between them like 1,2,1,2,1,2... I actually did something weird here I can't remember why but it goes 1,1,2,1 before the kiai starts. But yeah either way I just did it to change it up a little.
  2. 00:50:220 (3) - i would make the slidershape differ somehow from 00:49:702 (1) - cause different sounds but idk maybe the emphasis by movement is enough. Players won't notice this tho Yeah movement seems to be enough for me too.
  3. 00:56:944 (1) - man these jumps are pretty big for an insane Yeah they are I followed your suggestion at the bottom and nerfed them.
  4. 01:07:891 (4,1) - the sharp movement here will be super hard for the player since streams play a lot differently from normal jumps (as you probably know lol). You also didn't do this sharp jump thing before so bleh ^
  5. 01:19:358 (5,6) - tbh i think these would be better as triples but your choice. Also don't silence the sliderend since the sound there is just as powerful as the others But they're not silanced there's a clap on them.
  6. 01:27:289 (1,2) - this would be much more comfortable to play if the red tick was clickable but yea song and sounds. Again just a pretty minor suggestion Gonna keep it as it is because I never like not putting emphasis on the music -w-
  7. 02:25:220 (3,4,5,6,7) - again i personally don't like this lol since i always read these wrong. This is what i'd do cause movement and reading These play fine. Player's shouldn't have any problem reading them either as the first note in the stream comes up long before the slider. I'm not going to follow your suggestion because while the spacing might be the same it doesn't cause that complete 180 in mouse movement the current pattern does. The 180 creates a lot of emphasis which would be hard to make up for in spacing without creating those awkward steam jumps I just nerfed.
  8. idk what to point out good stuff
What i'm concerned about is the spread between these two. CBH's diff doesn't have any long streams (like a hard shouldn't) and then you have a huge jump in difficulty with those streamjumps you have. If the streamjump you had were like this then there would be no problem imo cause those don't require that much speed and aim but still give nice emphasis to sounds. (Fixed)

advanced
  1. 01:05:392 - this feels really empty with out anything to click. How about a 1/2 slider so you can get the snare on this red tick too I guess that empty feeling is what I'm going for?
  2. f!
nrml
  1. what am i supposed to mod here lol blnkts an stcks
idk pretty useless mod tbh lol
habe a star Thanks mate o/
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
god i love this music

[General]
  1. According to Modding Assistant, your file soft-sliderwhistle.wav is unused. You might want to check that out and place it somewhere or delete it.
  2. 02:51:082 - Restart a kiai on this tick until 03:04:875 - ? This part sounds similar as 02:34:530 -.
  3. 01:17:289 - until 01:38:323 - This section doesn't sound special, so a kiai wouldn't work for me.
[Insane]
  1. To make things consistent, the widescreen support setting can be enabled.
  2. 00:35:047 (1) - 00:40:564 (1) - 00:51:427 (1,2) - 01:07:978 (1,2) - 02:52:978 (1) - 02:58:323 (1,2) - 03:03:840 (3,4) - In my opinion, the kickslider patterns are commencing too early due to the sliders mentioned at the beginning, so the parts where the kicksliders are feel less emphasized. A well executed rhythm would be this stream: 00:45:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - because the kicksliders are starting on the loud drums. I think you should follow this example for the other streams and leave the sliders I mentioned a hitcircle instead.
  3. 00:36:771 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - For each set of combo, I was thinking of making the distance gradually small. I think it fits much better with the music, as the background sound fades out during this part. So having smaller spacing for each set may make a good effect with the music.
    Also 00:47:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -.
  4. 00:42:806 (1,2) - The suggestion above is the same here; you can simply reduce this spacing and leave the rest intact.
  5. 02:21:254 (2,3) - A slider would suit better here. The beat on 02:21:427 - is very faint, so a hitcircle would be too much of an emphasis here. A slider's end is not pressed, unlike a hitcircle.
  6. 02:21:771 (4) - Remove the finish hitsound on the slider's end? It sounds weird.
[CBH's Hard]
  1. 00:27:720 - Like with your other previous sliders, you can add a green point to silence the sliderticks to this slider too.
  2. 00:34:875 (3,4) - Try avoiding this type of pattern and rhythm. It's very hard for this kind of difficulty in my opinion, plus you only have this one time throughout this map. I suggest you make a triplet with circles instead.
  3. 01:27:978 (4,5) - These kicksliders can be pretty hard to play since the slider velocity is high, the number of repeats on 01:27:633 (3) - is unexpected, and the distance in-between all three sliders are spaced, which can cause confusion to the player. If I were you, I would turn 01:27:978 (4,5) - into a repeat slider like 01:27:633 (3) - and bring the spacing of all 01:27:633 (3,4,5,1) - closer that it would create little overlaps, for fluid flow and easier gameplay.
    And also 02:33:840 (3,4,5) - .
  4. 02:11:082 (1,2) - Increase the spacing a bit, like 1.20x? It's for an easier readability, as currently the stacked circles are a bit "too" hidden.
[Advanced]
  1. 02:10:564 (3,4,5,6) - Because of the long slider in the middle, I'd rather make this rhythm like this instead: http://i.imgur.com/mBjBIZP.png. It was being inconsistent with rhythms like 02:05:047 (3,4,5,6) - , so I thought a much more consistent rhythm would play much easier, since you played quite often in this map.
[Normal]
  1. 01:27:289 (1) - In my opinion, unstacking this slider out of the previous object makes the slider easier to read.
Ok, after applying this mod, you can call me back!
Come[Back]Home
1,785 posts
Joined October 2011
Come[Back]Home

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Hi~

CBH

  1. 00:24:875 (1,1) - blanket Looks good to me
  2. 00:55:220 - 01:06:254 - 01:17:289 - PLEASE make these clickable ;w; If more point it out I will
  3. 02:11:599 (4,5) - isnt the DS supposed to be 1.4 here? Its 1,4
  4. 02:31:427 (6,2) - uh... overlap fixed
  5. 03:07:633 (4) - nc plz Okay

    Beomsan wrote:

    hey there, m4m from my Q
    I'm so happy If you can understand my english. :<
    my english sucks

    [CBH's Hard]
    1. 01:03:151 (4,5,6,1) - It seems very difficult to read.
    2. 01:06:254 - here is clearly clickable in my opinion. 01:05:909 (4) - I recommend reducing the length of the slider and 01:06:254 - add a note. If more suggest it I will

      oh my god. It's perfect.

    Maakkeli wrote:

    hei!!!!!!!

    yea i was supposed to mod this a lot earlier but stuff came up
    good thing you all are this consistent so i don't need to point things out twice lol

    cbh
    1. 00:54:875 (4) - give this a sharper movement or more spacing cause kick/snare sound w/e I dont think thats necessary
    2. 01:03:495 (1) - stacking this under the triple kind leaves this without emphasis. And it's confusing to read/play (personally) Fixed
    3. 01:26:599 (1) - wanna make the sliderend a circle? Cause powerful sound Might be too confusing with the following part
    4. 02:04:185 (1) - didn't you map this sound as a 1/1 slider previously? And now there are circles, I dont think thats a problem
    5. 02:20:737 (1) - yea emphasis again I think its good :o
    6. 02:56:254 (5) - hm i don't really like how you accelerate spacing here suddenly. I mean shouldn't 02:56:599 (1) - get more emphasis than 02:56:254 (5) - ? Yep
    7. good stuff too

    idk pretty useless mod tbh lol
    habe a star

    sheela wrote:

    god i love this music So do I

    [CBH's Hard]
    1. 00:27:720 - Like with your other previous sliders, you can add a green point to silence the sliderticks to this slider too. Okay
    2. 00:34:875 (3,4) - Try avoiding this type of pattern and rhythm. It's very hard for this kind of difficulty in my opinion, plus you only have this one time throughout this map. I suggest you make a triplet with circles instead. I think its okay here to have a good spread with the Insane. I was told to make the Hard harder than usual, so I guess it should be fine.
    3. 01:27:978 (4,5) - These kicksliders can be pretty hard to play since the slider velocity is high, the number of repeats on 01:27:633 (3) - is unexpected, and the distance in-between all three sliders are spaced, which can cause confusion to the player. If I were you, I would turn 01:27:978 (4,5) - into a repeat slider like 01:27:633 (3) - and bring the spacing of all 01:27:633 (3,4,5,1) - closer that it would create little overlaps, for fluid flow and easier gameplay.
      And also 02:33:840 (3,4,5) - . All fixed, except the overlap part, I dont think overlaps would look good~
    4. 02:11:082 (1,2) - Increase the spacing a bit, like 1.20x? It's for an easier readability, as currently the stacked circles are a bit "too" hidden. I really love the spacing the way it is here, it fits soooo good in how silent the music is there. I really want to keep it that way, and if youre not playing with Hidden its easy to see that that is 1/4 I guess
Ok, after applying this mod, you can call me back!
Thank you so much everyone!
Come[Back]Home
1,785 posts
Joined October 2011
Come[Back]Home
Cant edit the post above, but I fixed most things mentioned by sheela, except for the red text.

Update
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 60047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 33151,74531,77289,98324,101427,121427,140738,143496,164531,187634
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.3

[Metadata]
Title:Eos
TitleUnicode:Eos
Artist:Keeno
ArtistUnicode:Keeno
Creator:Yoges
Version:CBH's Hard
Source:
Tags:Atsuro Futurist EP cbh Come[Back]Home electronic hybrid d n & b dnb d&b drum and & bass breakcore jungle idm jazz
BeatmapID:1011753
BeatmapSetID:453221

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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2,101627,120527
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

sheela wrote:

god i love this music

[General]
  1. According to Modding Assistant, your file soft-sliderwhistle.wav is unused. You might want to check that out and place it somewhere or delete it. Atsu said that hitsound copier didn't apply that to a few of the sliders but however the sound itself appears to be silent and doesn't make a difference when applied so I've decided to take the lazy solution and just delete it.
  2. 02:51:082 - Restart a kiai on this tick until 03:04:875 - ? This part sounds similar as 02:34:530 -. Similar drum patterns but the outro is a lot calmer so no.
  3. 01:17:289 - until 01:38:323 - This section doesn't sound special, so a kiai wouldn't work for me. But it's like pretty intense tho. First bit of the song where the breakcore parts come on so kiai is staying.
[Insane]
  1. To make things consistent, the widescreen support setting can be enabled. Or just disabled on all the other diffs
  2. 00:35:047 (1) - 00:40:564 (1) - 00:51:427 (1,2) - 01:07:978 (1,2) - 02:52:978 (1) - 02:58:323 (1,2) - 03:03:840 (3,4) - In my opinion, the kickslider patterns are commencing too early due to the sliders mentioned at the beginning, so the parts where the kicksliders are feel less emphasized. A well executed rhythm would be this stream: 00:45:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - because the kicksliders are starting on the loud drums. I think you should follow this example for the other streams and leave the sliders I mentioned a hitcircle instead. I've changed the first and 2nd patterns but not for the reasons in the mod but rather because I remembered what I was originally going for when I mapped this song. I wanted to create patterns that had small changes in rhythm and still followed the song to keep things fresh. The best way to map this rhythm would be 00:34:185 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - but this rhythm idk how to explain it... it can be mapped in multiple ways. Normal music usually doesn't have rhythms that allow you to do this that's why I wouldn't attempt it on other songs but since the music is how it is I can do stuff like use repeat sliders instead of a stream 00:45:220 (1,2) - or start the kick sliders slightly earlier 00:51:427 (1,2) - because these notes are a bit more more prominent than the others 00:50:737 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . You could argue that this creates inconsistencies but if it is consistently inconsistent then there shouldn't be a problem? As in there's not just one place that is inconsistent the whole thing is inconsistent. sort of like this
    Inconsistent pattern => 1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1
    Consistently Inconsistent pattern => 1,3,5,2,6,2,6,7,3,2
    My changes is the rhythm aren't random either and they do still follow the music so I don't think they should pose a problem however if you're REALLY REALLY opposed to this then I'll have no choice but to change it. I also do this in all the other non kiai sections too.
  3. 00:36:771 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - For each set of combo, I was thinking of making the distance gradually small. I think it fits much better with the music, as the background sound fades out during this part. So having smaller spacing for each set may make a good effect with the music.
    Also 00:47:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -. I've applied this to the whole map but kept the spacing changes noticeable but small. The spacing between each consecutive pair decreases by 0.2 in all the non-kiai sections and 0.3 in the kiai.
  4. 00:42:806 (1,2) - The suggestion above is the same here; you can simply reduce this spacing and leave the rest intact. ^
  5. 02:21:254 (2,3) - A slider would suit better here. The beat on 02:21:427 - is very faint, so a hitcircle would be too much of an emphasis here. A slider's end is not pressed, unlike a hitcircle. Ok sure
  6. 02:21:771 (4) - Remove the finish hitsound on the slider's end? It sounds weird. Ok
[Advanced]
  1. 02:10:564 (3,4,5,6) - Because of the long slider in the middle, I'd rather make this rhythm like this instead: http://i.imgur.com/mBjBIZP.png. It was being inconsistent with rhythms like 02:05:047 (3,4,5,6) - , so I thought a much more consistent rhythm would play much easier, since you played quite often in this map. Yeah but notice how 02:11:771 (5) - is a lot louder than in all the other sections. That's why I'd like it to be clickable here.
[Normal]
  1. 01:27:289 (1) - In my opinion, unstacking this slider out of the previous object makes the slider easier to read. Sure
Ok, after applying this mod, you can call me back! Thanks was helpful.
Other changes = Removed unused green lines from all the diffs
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
ok recheck:

[Insane]
  1. 02:55:995 (2,3) - Maybe space them up like 00:43:582 (2,3) - for emphasis and little consistency.
[CBH's Hard]
  1. 01:03:151 (4) - If I follow the hitsound of Insane, the slider's end should have a Drum addition, otherwise it would sound weird.
Call me back again!
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

sheela wrote:

ok recheck:

[Insane]
  1. 02:55:995 (2,3) - Maybe space them up like 00:43:582 (2,3) - for emphasis and little consistency. Sure
[CBH's Hard]
  1. 01:03:151 (4) - If I follow the hitsound of Insane, the slider's end should have a Drum addition, otherwise it would sound weird. Probably wasn't copied in hitsound copier.
Call me back again!
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
oh yas
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges
Thank you <3
Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro
ere we go
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
I approve the changes lol.
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges
Cheers!
lit120
3,251 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
sorry for late but seems that the map is bubbled

have this 5 stars instead =w=/
Cryptic
551 posts
Joined December 2013
Cryptic
okay finally

[General]
  1. Summary of metadata PM talk, changing the title to EOS is recommended just because it looks better.
[Normal]
  1. 00:34:530 (2,3,4) - Visually, this pattern is pretty different from the rest of the map due to the curve of the 4, finding a more aesthetically pleasing and consistent alternative would be nice.
  2. 00:39:702 (2) - Finish?
  3. 00:44:185 (1) - Finish on sliderend?
  4. Finish?
  5. 01:29:702 (2,3) - DS on the 2.
  6. 01:32:116 (2) - Finish?
  7. 02:57:978 (3) - Finish on sliderhead?
  8. 03:03:495 (3) - ^
  9. 02:59:358 (5) - Consider lowering the start of the 5 and curving the slider upwards to better direct into 03:00:220 (6) - .
  10. 03:00:220 (6,7) - DS again.
  11. The reason I'm pointing out the HS's here are because on the other diffs, you mapped to other sounds, which meant when you copied over HS's you need to add a few to the basic rhythm to be consistent with your rhythm you're using.
[Advanced]
  1. 01:05:392 - Skipping this noise in the map is kind of jarring, why did you leave it out?
  2. 01:32:663 - HS randomly switches to 35% volume because you forgot a green timing point at 01:32:806 -
  3. I find it really weird that after the last break starting at 02:51:082 (1) - going to the end, you use a different DS than you did anywhere else in your map (1.3 instead of 1.2) which is larger than the kiais.
[CBH's Hard]
  1. 00:24:875 (1,1) - Tidy up the blanket to look more polished
  2. 00:35:047 (4,5) - Fix the DS here
  3. 00:37:633 (2,3,4,5) - The really linear motion makes this pattern kind of dull, consider changing the shape/direction of 5 to make the pattern more interesting.
  4. 00:45:737 (2,3) - Why the lower DS here? I think this would play better as a consistent DS of 1.4
  5. 00:51:082 (1,2,3,4) - These aren't really consistent amongst themselves. I'd recommend using 1,2s placement and copy/pasting them onto 3,4's placement to make it more consistent.
  6. 02:33:840 (3,4) - What if you flipped one of these as a callback to 01:27:633 (3,4) - and also to make the DS to 02:34:530 (1) - 1.4
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:909 (3,4,5,6,1) - Personal pet peeve, but changing direction before a strong beat just feels wrong (except in jump streams), so I'd rework this to make the stream flow into the kick.
  2. 01:07:891 (4,1) - This is a rather large jumpstream for 174 BPM at your SR.
  3. 01:14:358 (5) - I'd move the 5 down and left with respect to the 01:14:530 (1) - . This is because with your current pattern you end up with a really weird awkward zig-zag that doesn't quite flow as smooth as it could, but this can easily be solved by continuing your clockwise flow.
    ^
  4. 02:25:220 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:30:737 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:39:013 (3,4,5,6,7) - I would nerf the DS on the streams here to make it flow a bit better. The jump streams here a big step up from the rest of the map, and considering this kiai is the same as the previous, you shouldn't have a very large difficulty difference between the two.
  5. 03:04:013 (4) - Based on previous patterns (00:40:392 (1) - ), shouldn't this be NC'd?
  6. 03:04:702 (9,1) - Such a large jump for such a calm part of the song.
  7. 03:07:116 (3,4,5,1) - I'd rework the positioning of these so that it flows a bit less like a lopsided square. Personally, I preferred something like this:
    ^
Overall the mapset is good, call me back when you're ready.
(Sheela will need to reicon due to metadata change, so let me know if you want me to bubb or heart.)
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

Cryptic wrote:

okay finally

[General]
  1. Summary of metadata PM talk, changing the title to EOS is recommended just because it looks better.
Done

[Normal]
  1. 00:34:530 (2,3,4) - Visually, this pattern is pretty different from the rest of the map due to the curve of the 4, finding a more aesthetically pleasing and consistent alternative would be nice. No I want to keep the flow and movement because I feel it expresses the music well. Creativity is limited in Normal and Easy diffs so slider shapes and flow are all I have to work with. It doesn't look all that ugly either really. You might notice that this shape isn't used in any of the other instances to express that sound, example: 00:41:427 (5) - . I use different shapes and different directions in different parts where the sound is played because the patterns that came before it were different. So depending on the context different shapes will express the sound better.
  2. 00:39:702 (2) - Finish? Okie
  3. 00:44:185 (1) - Finish on sliderend? Okie
  4. Finish? Ehh.. missing timestamp?
  5. 01:29:702 (2,3) - DS on the 2. Yeah My mouse wheel is broken. Sometimes it just scrolls up or down randomly because it's loose from it's fitting so that might have happend in editor and it might have accidentally changed the DS. Thanks for catching this.
  6. 01:32:116 (2) - Finish? okie
  7. 02:57:978 (3) - Finish on sliderhead? No I don't like this one it just sounds out of place
  8. 03:03:495 (3) - ^ Nah
  9. 02:59:358 (5) - Consider lowering the start of the 5 and curving the slider upwards to better direct into 03:00:220 (6) - . Ehh reffer to my big red paragraph above.
  10. 03:00:220 (6,7) - DS again. Thanks
  11. The reason I'm pointing out the HS's here are because on the other diffs, you mapped to other sounds, which meant when you copied over HS's you need to add a few to the basic rhythm to be consistent with your rhythm you're using.
[Advanced]
  1. 01:05:392 - Skipping this noise in the map is kind of jarring, why did you leave it out? Mapping it is even more jarring because it forces me to randomly switch polarity which disrupts the steady rhythm I've created with repetition throughout the song.
  2. 01:32:663 - HS randomly switches to 35% volume because you forgot a green timing point at 01:32:806 - Yup I did
  3. I find it really weird that after the last break starting at 02:51:082 (1) - going to the end, you use a different DS than you did anywhere else in your map (1.3 instead of 1.2) which is larger than the kiais. Mouse wheel (fixed)
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:909 (3,4,5,6,1) - Personal pet peeve, but changing direction before a strong beat just feels wrong (except in jump streams), so I'd rework this to make the stream flow into the kick. I think it's fine. Still expresses the music and it's more fitting with the aesthetic of the patterns I have in this section.
  2. 01:07:891 (4,1) - This is a rather large jumpstream for 174 BPM at your SR. Nerfed somewhat.
  3. 01:14:358 (5) - I'd move the 5 down and left with respect to the 01:14:530 (1) - . This is because with your current pattern you end up with a really weird awkward zig-zag that doesn't quite flow as smooth as it could, but this can easily be solved by continuing your clockwise flow. I preffer my way. Resetting the flow and going in the opposite direction expresses the music better imo.
    ^
  4. 02:25:220 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:30:737 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:39:013 (3,4,5,6,7) - I would nerf the DS on the streams here to make it flow a bit better. The jump streams here a big step up from the rest of the map, and considering this kiai is the same as the previous, you shouldn't have a very large difficulty difference between the two. I've made everything in the second kiai slightly harder, larger jumps, sharper angles etc. I'm doing this because in the 2nd kiai there're more instruments playing in the background. They make this section more uplifting than the first and thus more special. I'm trying to express that. The sharp flow and jump for these patterns in particular I'd say actually express the music better than the 01:19:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - I have in the first kiai. I'm not going to change the patterns in the first kiai for the sake of "consistency" tho because having the jump stream only be in the 2nd kiai makes it all that more special.
  5. 03:04:013 (4) - Based on previous patterns (00:40:392 (1) - ), shouldn't this be NC'd? Yes it should
  6. 03:04:702 (9,1) - Such a large jump for such a calm part of the song. Decreased
  7. 03:07:116 (3,4,5,1) - I'd rework the positioning of these so that it flows a bit less like a lopsided square. Personally, I preferred something like this: Did something else
    ^
Overall the mapset is good, call me back when you're ready. Will do
(Sheela will need to reicon due to metadata change, so let me know if you want me to bubb or heart.) I'll get you to bubble then and just get sheela to heart after we've fixed everything.
Come[Back]Home
1,785 posts
Joined October 2011
Come[Back]Home

Cryptic wrote:

okay finally

[General]
  1. Summary of metadata PM talk, changing the title to EOS is recommended just because it looks better.

[CBH's Hard]
  1. 00:24:875 (1,1) - Tidy up the blanket to look more polished Okay
  2. 00:35:047 (4,5) - Fix the DS here Okay
  3. 00:37:633 (2,3,4,5) - The really linear motion makes this pattern kind of dull, consider changing the shape/direction of 5 to make the pattern more interesting. I dont think that this pattern is boring. It fits really good with the musics. I personally like those patterns, so I dont want to change it.
  4. 00:45:737 (2,3) - Why the lower DS here? I think this would play better as a consistent DS of 1.4 Fixed
  5. 00:51:082 (1,2,3,4) - These aren't really consistent amongst themselves. I'd recommend using 1,2s placement and copy/pasting them onto 3,4's placement to make it more consistent. Okay
  6. 02:33:840 (3,4) - What if you flipped one of these as a callback to 01:27:633 (3,4) - Okay, I hope understood it right loland also to make the DS to 02:34:530 (1) - 1.4 I'd like to keep the ds the way it is, because I did the same thing here 01:27:978 (4,1) -


Overall the mapset is good, call me back when you're ready.
(Sheela will need to reicon due to metadata change, so let me know if you want me to bubb or heart.)
Le Update
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 60047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 33151,74531,77289,98324,101427,121427,140738,143496,164531,187634
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.3

[Metadata]
Title:EOS
TitleUnicode:EOS
Artist:Keeno
ArtistUnicode:Keeno
Creator:Yoges
Version:CBH's Hard
Source:
Tags:Atsuro Futurist EP cbh Come[Back]Home electronic hybrid d n & b dnb d&b drum and & bass breakcore jungle idm jazz
BeatmapID:1011753
BeatmapSetID:453221

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
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SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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0,0,"bg.png",0,0
//Break Periods
2,101627,120527
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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Cryptic
551 posts
Joined December 2013
Cryptic
A lot of useless stuff I'm lazy to edit out
11:50 Cryptic: Sup, lets do the recheck
11:51 Yoges: Oh now? Sure. That was quick lol
11:53 Cryptic: 00:50:737 (2) - this is the FInish timestamp I missed on the normal
11:53 *Cryptic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038763 Keeno - EOS [Normal]]
11:54 Yoges: nah I think i'll leave it as it is sounds out of place with the finish
11:58 Yoges: do you mean normal finish or the drum finish?
11:59 Cryptic: drum finish
11:59 Cryptic: also apparently theres a gas leak near me
11:59 Yoges: ahh
11:59 Cryptic: so let me see if I have to evacuate
11:59 Cryptic: brb
11:59 Yoges: oh
11:59 Yoges: ok
12:02 Cryptic: Nope its a few blocks away from here
12:02 Cryptic: so I should b efine
12:02 Yoges: ok
12:02 Yoges: yeah about the finish I'll add them now since the drum finish doesn't sound out of place
12:03 Yoges: same goes for the 2 I declined in the mod
12:03 Cryptic: Cool
12:03 Cryptic: Yeah
12:04 Cryptic: I meant drum finish for all of them
12:04 Cryptic: Since thats what you followed thRe
12:04 Cryptic: *there
12:04 Cryptic: Should have been a bit more specific so thats my bad.
12:04 Yoges: yeah np I'll change the other ones too
12:04 Cryptic: However, everything else looks fine on the Normal
12:04 Yoges: ok good stuff
12:08 Yoges: There was a fire in one of the appartments on my floor a few weeks ago, turned out to be the one right next to me. Woke up to the smell of smoke and the sound of sirens and I just looked out the window... looked at the firetruck... and went straight back to sleep with no concern for if I was in danger
12:08 Cryptic: Damn
12:08 Cryptic: Yeah, my friend is having to evacuate
12:08 Cryptic: becuase he lives closer to the leak
12:08 Cryptic: Advanced looks fine
12:09 Yoges: kk good
12:09 Yoges: normal's already been updated with finish changes btw
12:09 Cryptic: okay
12:13 Cryptic: You know
12:13 Cryptic: your offset may be a bit off
12:13 Cryptic: Like a few MS early
12:14 Yoges: by how much would you say?
12:14 Cryptic: Uhm
12:15 Cryptic: 8-10 too early
12:17 Yoges: yeah I hear it too
12:18 Yoges: I'll +9 to the ms
12:18 Cryptic: 01:07:891 (4,1) - this needs to be streamlined to be the same DS as 00:57:202 (4,1) - or else I don't think I can let it go to rank.
12:18 Cryptic: Alright.
12:18 Cryptic: Make sure to run it through AIBat or something to look for microsnapping issues after you do it
12:18 Cryptic: On the Insane now, btw.
12:18 Yoges: ye
12:20 Yoges: Ok I'll make the DS 2.05 for that too then
12:20 Cryptic: Yeah, and bring it down to be more of a right turn like the previous pattern
12:20 Cryptic: The upward jumpstream plays really clunkily
12:20 Cryptic: Just because you end up with more of a circular motion
12:21 Cryptic: Like, for quick reference, something liket his would be better https://puu.sh/rb6jV/cd303eba21.png
12:21 Cryptic: Obviously that change in itself looks horrible but its just a rough idea
12:23 Cryptic: Also my apartment complex just emailed me to evacuate as well which is zzz
12:23 Yoges: I done this https://puu.sh/rb6p7/de968a58cd.png
12:23 Cryptic: I like that change as long as you move two a bit lower to compensate
12:23 Yoges: -3-
12:23 Yoges: ok
12:23 Yoges: We'll continue this later I guess
12:23 Cryptic: I'm not within the affected 1 block radius, I'm liek 3 blocks away
12:23 Cryptic: Nah, we'll finish this first
12:23 Cryptic: I don't have much of anywhere to go at the moment
12:24 Cryptic: So I'll be here until my friend tells me he's free so I can hang there
12:24 Yoges: heh heh taking inspiration from my fire story
12:24 Cryptic: Not really, I just don't know where I'd go. Like, most of my friends are in classes atm except for one
12:24 Cryptic: And also I'm 3 blocks away, the fire department is only evacuating 1 block away
12:24 Cryptic: so
12:25 Cryptic: One sec I'm going ot make some calls, update everything and I'll be back.
12:26 Yoges: ok
12:26 Yoges: ehh how do you feel about this? https://puu.sh/rb6A9/3838fd55fa.png
12:32 Yoges: it's updated so you can have a look for yourself now
12:48 Cryptic: thats fine
12:49 Cryptic: I don't have to evacuate thankfully, not yet at least
12:49 Cryptic: Theres still a chance
12:49 Cryptic: so lets finish this up
12:49 Yoges: do your stuff then
12:53 Cryptic: Alright
12:53 Cryptic: are you satisfied with everything at the moment?
12:54 Yoges: yup
12:55 Cryptic: Alright
12:55 Cryptic: I'm gonna rebubb
12:55 Cryptic: make sure to call sheela back

rebubb
Yuii-
2,503 posts
Joined July 2013
Yuii-
Cryptic told me to be a nice kid

Slider Tick Rate 2 goes better with the bg sounds!
Consider changing that green (4) color for something that fits better with the background image... a more grey style. Try 210,106,77 that code instead!
Normal is cool

ADV

  1. AR6 please. It is way better! Helps readability a lot of this BPM and with all this density you have.
HD

  1. 00:54:884 (4) - 3/4 so you can make 00:55:229 - clickable would be awesome. Kinda personal, but I think it'd be way better. Same goes for rhythms like 01:05:918 (4) - too.
  2. 00:57:298 (4,5) - Jump here seems to be completely random and out of nowhere, to be honest. Consider moving it down and to the left, so you don't affect the spacing on (5,1) at all.
  3. 01:26:608 (1) - What's up with this overextended slider? It's completely ignoring the music at all. Would you mind changing the rhythm to something more... fitting? Same goes for 02:32:815 (1) - . Maybe you can try this http://puu.sh/rbahk/d526e87779.jpg ?
  4. 02:50:746 (5,1) - Seems like you messed it up or something there. Can't really understand the reason why would you stack these even when you emphasized (1) with a Finish hitsound.
NS

  1. 00:34:539 (1,1) - I don't get these NCs, where they just to keep combos shorter or something? I find them completely unnecessary (unless you want to change them for a separated stream). Same goes for 00:51:091 (1) - by the way. For example, you are not placing any NC here despite being the exact same.
  2. 00:46:263 (1,2,3) - Tooooo linear, flow plays quite poorly, what do you think about http://puu.sh/rb9tb/5ea70cad2a.jpg ?
  3. 02:07:987 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Personal, but this is completely overmapped to me. May you give me a proper explanation to why do you think 1/4s are good here? I can't hear anything even on 25%, it's completely random to me.
  4. 02:18:504 (3,2) - Whilst it's not completely hidden, I'd suggest you to separate (2)'s repeat from (3)'s slidertail. If players miss or hit 100/50, then it becomes quite hard to catch up on that repeat. Something like what you did on 02:48:504 (2) - .
  5. 02:52:815 (6) - In my opinion, the NC should be there instead, like what you did in 00:40:401 (1) -
  6. 03:04:884 (1,2,3,4) - Should not this pattern be 3/4 for consistency with 02:59:367 (1,2,3,1) - ?
  7. 03:05:918 (1,2,3,4) - Minor, Ctrl+J'ing it (and re-arranging it afterwards) for a better transition to the next stream would be awesome.
  8. I'm also against 02:25:229 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:30:746 (3,4,5,6,7) - like, why didn't you introduce them earlier? These patterns will be a pain in the eyes for the players who hadn't seen a similar pattern to these after 2 minutes of playing your map.
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call sheela back !!
Yoges
896 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Yoges

Yuii- wrote:

Cryptic told me to be a nice kid

Slider Tick Rate 2 goes better with the bg sounds! Nah I prefer 1
Consider changing that green (4) color for something that fits better with the background image... a more grey style. Try 210,106,77 that code instead! Nah the green's fine
Normal is cool

ADV

  1. AR6 please. It is way better! Helps readability a lot of this BPM and with all this density you have. Sure
NS

  1. 00:34:539 (1,1) - I don't get these NCs, where they just to keep combos shorter or something? I find them completely unnecessary (unless you want to change them for a separated stream). Same goes for 00:51:091 (1) - by the way. For example, you are not placing any NC here despite being the exact same. Yeah ok I can't remember why I had them short either. Changed.
  2. 00:46:263 (1,2,3) - Tooooo linear, flow plays quite poorly, what do you think about http://puu.sh/rb9tb/5ea70cad2a.jpg ? How do you like 'em now?
  3. 02:07:987 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Personal, but this is completely overmapped to me. May you give me a proper explanation to why do you think 1/4s are good here? I can't hear anything even on 25%, it's completely random to me. It's not overmapped tho. Delete the notes and listen to the music again on 100%. There's faint drum sounds fading in. It's better to map them as they're fading in rather than when they've taken over the rest of the music because switching to them then is really really awkward.
  4. 02:18:504 (3,2) - Whilst it's not completely hidden, I'd suggest you to separate (2)'s repeat from (3)'s slidertail. If players miss or hit 100/50, then it becomes quite hard to catch up on that repeat. Something like what you did on 02:48:504 (2) - . In gameplay the (3) is gone long before the (2) appears so it's fine.
  5. 02:52:815 (6) - In my opinion, the NC should be there instead, like what you did in 00:40:401 (1) - Yeah that would make more sense
  6. 03:04:884 (1,2,3,4) - Should not this pattern be 3/4 for consistency with 02:59:367 (1,2,3,1) - ? No they're completely different sounds and I'm going for completely different feels.
  7. 03:05:918 (1,2,3,4) - Minor, Ctrl+J'ing it (and re-arranging it afterwards) for a better transition to the next stream would be awesome. Sure
  8. I'm also against 02:25:229 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:30:746 (3,4,5,6,7) - like, why didn't you introduce them earlier? These patterns will be a pain in the eyes for the players who hadn't seen a similar pattern to these after 2 minutes of playing your map.

    Cryptic wrote:

    02:25:220 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:30:737 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:39:013 (3,4,5,6,7) - I would nerf the DS on the streams here to make it flow a bit better. The jump streams here a big step up from the rest of the map, and considering this kiai is the same as the previous, you shouldn't have a very large difficulty difference between the two. I've made everything in the second kiai slightly harder, larger jumps, sharper angles etc. I'm doing this because in the 2nd kiai there're more instruments playing in the background. They make this section more uplifting than the first and thus more special. I'm trying to express that. The sharp flow and jump for these patterns in particular I'd say actually express the music better than the 01:19:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - I have in the first kiai. I'm not going to change the patterns in the first kiai for the sake of "consistency" tho because having the jump stream only be in the 2nd kiai makes it all that more special.
call sheela back !! Will do after CBH responds and Cryptic rebubs
Thanks nice kid
Come[Back]Home
1,785 posts
Joined October 2011
Come[Back]Home

Yuii- wrote:

Cryptic told me to be a nice kid

HD

  1. 00:54:884 (4) - 3/4 so you can make 00:55:229 - clickable would be awesome. Kinda personal, but I think it'd be way better. Same goes for rhythms like 01:05:918 (4) - too. I somehow think that the current sliderlenght fits more the song. To let it end on a downbeat gives it some kind of impact, and it fits with the music imo
  2. 00:57:298 (4,5) - Jump here seems to be completely random and out of nowhere, to be honest. Consider moving it down and to the left, so you don't affect the spacing on (5,1) at all. Both sliders are starting on strong beats, so I dont think that the jump is random like you said. Reduced the spacing though
  3. 01:26:608 (1) - What's up with this overextended slider? It's completely ignoring the music at all. Would you mind changing the rhythm to something more... fitting? Same goes for 02:32:815 (1) - . Maybe you can try this http://puu.sh/rbahk/d526e87779.jpg ? I dont get how you think it is ignoring the music completely. There is almost nothing and it fits really good with the dissapearing sounds in the background, I will keep it.
  4. 02:50:746 (5,1) - Seems like you messed it up or something there. Can't really understand the reason why would you stack these even when you emphasized (1) with a Finish hitsound. Okay, unstacked them. I didnt do the hitsounds though.
call sheela back !!
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Thank you~

Le Update
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Cryptic
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  1. 03:03:160 (3) - You want to move it up to avoid it being off-screen.
so yeah call me back
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oh my god Yoges
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sheela wrote:

[Advanced]
  1. 03:03:160 (3) - You want to move it up to avoid it being off-screen.Fixed
so yeah call me back
sheela
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lol
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gratz 8-)
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Thanks a lot sheela and Cryptic! ^^
BounceBabe
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BounceBabe wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1011753&m=0 The Hard difficulty has more advanced gameplay than it should have and is even partially overmapped for a Hard. Patterns like 00:59:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:24:539 (2,3,4,5) - 01:27:470 (1,2,3,4) - are not easy to play and is not suited for Hard difficulties and should be used in Insane and Extras. There are a lot of inconsistencies in the spacing as well. Not to mention several SV changes that are pretty big. This is also a Hard-Insane and not a Hard. Compared to the Advanced, which has linear patterns and easy to read patterns that are mostly 1/1 and 1/2, the jump from Advanced to Hard is too big in gameplay. Additionally, the spread itself is not even as it is dominated by harder difficulties. The Normal as it's lowest difficulty has a star rating of 1,7 which is fine but the rest is above 2 stars, so there should technically be an Easy in order to have a balanced spread that is not dominated by harder difficulties.
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BounceBabe wrote:

BounceBabe wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1011753&m=0 The Hard difficulty has more advanced gameplay than it should have and is even partially overmapped for a Hard. Patterns like 00:59:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:24:539 (2,3,4,5) - 01:27:470 (1,2,3,4) - are not easy to play and is not suited for Hard difficulties and should be used in Insane and Extras. There are a lot of inconsistencies in the spacing as well. Not to mention several SV changes that are pretty big. This is also a Hard-Insane and not a Hard. Compared to the Advanced, which has linear patterns and easy to read patterns that are mostly 1/1 and 1/2, the jump from Advanced to Hard is too big in gameplay. Additionally, the spread itself is not even as it is dominated by harder difficulties. The Normal as it's lowest difficulty has a star rating of 1,7 which is fine but the rest is above 2 stars, so there should technically be an Easy in order to have a balanced spread that is not dominated by harder difficulties.
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It's like that because I told CBH to Map it like that. If you look at the other diff's you'll see that they also use techniques them would not normally be used in those kinds of diffs. The insane for example has a few stream jumps which almost puts it on the verge of being an expert. The normal is also on the verge of being an advanced and the advanced is on the verge of being a hard. I told CBH to map his diff that way to continue the trend being followed in the set. You could say that the diff is a little over done but it is not over mapped please don't get the two mixed up. It isn't required that your map have an easy diff either. Some songs are too fast and dense that it's almost impossible to map an easy for them.
Come[Back]Home
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I have a feeling that you might dislike my Hards haha~ xD
And Hard is harder than usual because I was told to map it harder in order for it to fit in with the Insane.
And the song itself is kinda intense considering the drums etc. so its not really that easy to map an Easy for it, and since the lowest diffuculty is under 2 stars its fine.
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