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MisakiAN
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 17 Juni 2016 at 20:50:42

Artist: PRAGUE
Title: Balance Doll
Source: 銀魂°
Tags: Sakura Shiro, Gintama ending18,Anime ending,Gintama season 2
BPM: 145
Filesize: 22075kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,29 stars, 66 notes)
  2. Hard (2,98 stars, 196 notes)
  3. Normal (1,76 stars, 105 notes)
  4. Sakura Shiro's Insane (3,7 stars, 276 notes)
Download: PRAGUE - Balance Doll
Download: PRAGUE - Balance Doll (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy- done
Normal-done
Hard-done
Insane - done by Sakura Shirostill on mod
Taiko-done
REMOVED :(




Thankyou Very Much :D
Misaki A Kill
You should make more insane XD
Kirito Axel
00:08:357 (1,2,3,4,5) - in this,you should make like pattern
Misaki A Kill
andin,bikin yg lain lah :v
buat insane lah,masa hard :v
Kirito Axel
00:08:357 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i dont recommed it,but,in this you should make it like star or zig zag.it would make it prettier
Kirito Axel
okay,in Kagura diffiqulity
00:58:840 (5) - i think the hitsound here its not fit
and in Gintoki diffiqulity
01:07:944 (1,2,3,4,5) - and just like i said before,you can make it like pattern in here (sorry,iforgot to say it)
Topic Starter
MisakiAN
okay thank you :D
Azucchi
[Shinpachi]
00:16:633 (1) - The vocal line that this slider follows doesn't actually end at 00:17:827, you might want to extend this slider to 00:17:875.
00:24:909 (2) - this repeat slider doesn't sound like it's mapped to the song. I suggest shortening the slider here so that it repeats at the blue tick.
00:34:840 (2) - ^
00:38:150 (3) - ^
01:22:840 (1) - I suggest shortening this spinner to 01:29:047 to match the song's end.

[Kagura]
00:02:978 (5) - In this difficulty range, this circle will be hard to read. Maybe put this away from the slider?
00:58:840 (5) - ^
01:12:082 (5) - ^
01:22:840 (1) - I suggest shortening this spinner to 01:29:047 to match the song's end.

[Gintoki]
00:17:771 (4) - Etna sliders are too advanced for this difficulty range. You might want to change this
00:21:185 (4,5) - Doesn't rhythmically flow well. Try shortening the slider so that it repeats on the blue tick
00:24:392 (5) - Another etna slider
00:38:150 (1,2) - Listen to the rhythmic patter around here. Doesn't quite fit the song. remap maybe?
Topic Starter
MisakiAN
okay, thank you very much for helping :D
Sakura Shiro
hy,im helping you to modding your map :)
im skipped Kagura and Shinpachi because its done nicely :D

[Gintoki]
if you want make it more harder,00:55:116 (1,2,1,2,3) - this part can make it like this
SPOILER
[img]
shortening the spinner and add slider
01:09:185 (1,2,3,4,1) - you can make the slider into circle
maybe add cirle between01:12:495 (2) - and01:12:909 (1) -
im sorry if anything wrong with this
Topic Starter
MisakiAN
okay done
Topic Starter
MisakiAN
can you help me make the insane?
Sakura Shiro
Kirito Axel
[Sakura Shiro's Insane]
00:26:978 (7) - Hit sound in here not perfect
00:21:185 (4) - i think you forgot to put hitsound in here
00:18:082 (9) - same
00:50:357 (2,3) - maybe change the circle into slider to white tick
01:07:530 (7) - forgot to put hitsound again
01:08:357 (3) - same
okay thats all
im sorry if im wrong and bad english
Sakura Shiro
about the skin,maybe add cursor too? i can give you one :D
Topic Starter
MisakiAN
aaa,sure thank you very much :D
Three
Shinpachi

00:05:047 (3) - Flow
01:07:944 (2) - ^
00:05:047 (3) - try not to make 2 or more reverses because it ruins the flow
-Kilala-
gintama?
:D
good beatmap.i think i can mod a little bit
in shinpachi.
01:01:323 (1) - maybe remove clap hitsound
00:21:599 (1) - put hitsound in here

in guest diff
00:36:495 (2) - try to shortening the slider into blue and red tick,then add circle :)

sorry bad english
Topic Starter
MisakiAN

Three wrote:

Shinpachi

00:05:047 (3) - Flow
01:07:944 (2) - ^
00:05:047 (3) - try not to make 2 or more reverses because it ruins the flow
try not to make it? ok then
Mira-san
Hello. M4M lmao.

General

  1. I am not sure if the diff names are allowed since they don't have a progression of some sort and they are just character names.
  2. Add more tags surely. Just google the song and take the info around it and you can put them as tags.
  3. The map needs an overhaul.
  4. The audio for the map seems low-quality. Try finding an mp3 with higher quality.

Shinpachi

Uh, I think this map will definitely need A LOT of polishing in slider structure and placement. At it's current state a lot could be done to improve the map. Consider taking other Easy difficulties from other maps and use them as reference for improving this difficulty.

However, I think this a good map compared to what other newbies make. (OP did say they were a newbie)

Here are some light fixes that you could do.

  1. 00:00:082 (1) - I think you should try blanketing this slider like the image inside the box lol.
  2. 00:16:633 (1) - Make this slider look less curvy lol (y)
  3. 01:09:599 (1) - Press CTRL+R and then select Selection Center. And then rotate by -2. It will blanket the previous slider. ^^
  4. 01:17:047 (2) - Remove NC
  5. 01:17:461 (3) - Remove NC
  6. 01:29:254 - Move this timing point to end of spinner because right now it's at nothing lol.

Kagura

Hmm, this one looks better. Mostly weird-looking sliders that could be improved.

  1. 00:17:875 (3) - Move this to x:92 y:140.
  2. 00:18:288 (4) - Hmm, to be honest the clap hitsound here sounds weird lol, like it's not supposed to be there. Remove it and just follow the hitsound rhythm that you're following, just like 00:20:357 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  3. 00:29:875 (1) - You could try making it look like this! :D (you can apply this too on the Shinpachi diff sliders ^^)
  4. 00:33:185 (4,6) - Check this out too. This is an example of blanketing. Blanketing is a technique where you wrap a slider around a circle, a slider head or a slider end.
  5. 00:36:082 (1) - I suggest converting this into 2 circles and adding NC on the second circle instead of the whole slider.
  6. 01:05:875 (3,4,5) - Similar to the above example, you can try to blanket this one. :D
  7. 01:21:185 (4) - Hmm. Could probably improve this shape or turn it into something else? owo

Gintoki

Mostly about rhythm structure, which I could care about more since this is a harder difficulty, and unlike in lower diffs where you could at least ignore some beats lol.

  1. 00:11:668 (1) - Similar to the Kagura diff, make it like this
  2. 00:11:668 (1,2,3) - Make the rhythm like this perhaps? Also, sometimes sliders sound better if they start on a WHITE TICK with a STRONG BEAT.
  3. 00:30:702 (4,1) - Blanket owo
  4. etc..
  5. The map's rhythm and object placement are the ones that needs most polishing in this diff. Try using Distance Spacing for now.

Sakura Shiro's Insane

Rhythm problems and placement problems.

  1. 00:00:702 (3,4,5) - RIP spacing
  2. 00:09:599 (6) - Can you try to improve how this slider looks? It looks weird that way lmao.
  3. 00:11:875 (7,8) - I suggest making these start on a white tick instead.
  4. 00:18:082 (9) - NC
  5. 00:19:323 (12) - Oh noes. Please convert these into 3 notes instead. A VERY strong beat shouldn't be just a tick. It's an active beat, not a passive one lol
  6. 00:26:771 (5,6,7) - RIP spacing again
  7. 00:29:461 (1,2,3) - Move this to x:72 y:296? It's too close to the next object right now.
  8. 00:31:116 (3) - Put on top of slider (2) instead.
  9. 00:34:219 (3,4,5) - ??? This type of spacing does not look good. Just stack them perfectly on each other.
  10. 00:35:875 (1) - Same with the suggestion I made above.
  11. 00:39:185 (2) - Remove NC
  12. 00:39:806 (4) - NC
  13. 00:42:702 (4) - Remove NC
  14. 00:43:116 (8) - NC
  15. 00:44:771 (11) - NC here.
  16. 00:47:875 (6) - NC
  17. 00:50:771 (3,4,5) - Same as above.
  18. 01:19:737 (4,5,6) - ^
  19. 01:27:599 (3,4,5) -

I'm going to be honest here. Right now, at its current state, this map cannot be ranked due to the lack of quality. However, there is always a way and you can find it by trying to improve. Use similar maps as reference for mapping. There could be a time that you should decide whether to remap the whole thing and ultimately it will lead to ranking.

addendum: When mapping sliders, make sure if they fit within the beat of the red tick. Otherwise, you should always map them on WHITE TICKS. Modders will point out rhythm problems. If something doesn't sound right, they will let you know. :P

Good luck peeps. ;) I believe in you.
When I check back here this map must have improved a lot! Or else I'll be mad lmao.
Topic Starter
MisakiAN

Mira-san wrote:

Hello. M4M lmao.

General

  1. I am not sure if the diff names are allowed since they don't have a progression of some sort and they are just character names.Okay
  2. Add more tags surely. Just google the song and take the info around it and you can put them as tags.Okay i search it
  3. The map needs an overhaul.
  4. The audio for the map seems low-quality. Try finding an mp3 with higher quality.
XD im edit it with adobe audition

Shinpachi

Uh, I think this map will definitely need A LOT of polishing in slider structure and placement. At it's current state a lot could be done to improve the map. Consider taking other Easy difficulties from other maps and use them as reference for improving this difficulty.

However, I think this a good map compared to what other newbies make. (OP did say they were a newbie)

Here are some light fixes that you could do.

  1. 00:00:082 (1) - I think you should try blanketing this slider like the image inside the box lol.
  2. 00:16:633 (1) - Make this slider look less curvy lol (y)Maybe i just change it,(not too curvy :v)
  3. 01:09:599 (1) - Press CTRL+R and then select Selection Center. And then rotate by -2. It will blanket the previous slider. ^^
  4. 01:17:047 (2) - Remove NC
  5. 01:17:461 (3) - Remove NC
  6. 01:29:254 - Move this timing point to end of spinner because right now it's at nothing lol.
* just realized it (lol)

Kagura

Hmm, this one looks better. Mostly weird-looking sliders that could be improved.

  1. 00:17:875 (3) - Move this to x:92 y:140.
  2. 00:18:288 (4) - Hmm, to be honest the clap hitsound here sounds weird lol, like it's not supposed to be there. Remove it and just follow the hitsound rhythm that you're following, just like 00:20:357 (1,2,3,4,5) - i forgot it T-T
  3. 00:29:875 (1) - You could try making it look like this! :D (you can apply this too on the Shinpachi diff sliders ^^)
  4. 00:33:185 (4,6) - Check this out too. This is an example of blanketing. Blanketing is a technique where you wrap a slider around a circle, a slider head or a slider end.
  5. 00:36:082 (1) - I suggest converting this into 2 circles and adding NC on the second circle instead of the whole slider.
  6. 01:05:875 (3,4,5) - Similar to the above example, you can try to blanket this one. :D
  7. 01:21:185 (4) - Hmm. Could probably improve this shape or turn it into something else? owo
i think it looks like a cloud,i,m just gonna make it like that

Gintoki

Mostly about rhythm structure, which I could care about more since this is a harder difficulty, and unlike in lower diffs where you could at least ignore some beats lol.

  1. 00:11:668 (1) - Similar to the Kagura diff, make it like thiskay
  2. 00:11:668 (1,2,3) - Make the rhythm like this perhaps? Also, sometimes sliders sound better if they start on a WHITE TICK with a STRONG BEAT.
  3. 00:30:702 (4,1) - Blanket owoXD
  4. etc..
  5. The map's rhythm and object placement are the ones that needs most polishing in this diff. Try using Distance Spacing for now.
okay then

Sakura Shiro's Insane

Rhythm problems and placement problems.

  1. 00:00:702 (3,4,5) - RIP spacing:,v fixed
  2. 00:09:599 (6) - Can you try to improve how this slider looks? It looks weird that way lmao.Fixed
  3. 00:11:875 (7,8) - I suggest making these start on a white tick instead.
  4. 00:18:082 (9) - NC
  5. 00:19:323 (12) - Oh noes. Please convert these into 3 notes instead. A VERY strong beat shouldn't be just a tick. It's an active beat, not a passive one lolFixed,and new info :v
  6. 00:26:771 (5,6,7) - RIP spacing againRIP
  7. 00:29:461 (1,2,3) - Move this to x:72 y:296? It's too close to the next object right now.done
  8. 00:31:116 (3) - Put on top of slider (2) instead.Put On the top?
  9. 00:34:219 (3,4,5) - ??? This type of spacing does not look good. Just stack them perfectly on each other.
  10. 00:35:875 (1) - Same with the suggestion I made above.
  11. 00:39:185 (2) - Remove NC
  12. 00:39:806 (4) - NC
  13. 00:42:702 (4) - Remove NC
  14. 00:43:116 (8) - NC
  15. 00:44:771 (11) - NC here.
  16. 00:47:875 (6) - NC
  17. 00:50:771 (3,4,5) - Same as above.
  18. 01:19:737 (4,5,6) - ^
  19. 01:27:599 (3,4,5) -

I'm going to be honest here. Right now, at its current state, this map cannot be ranked due to the lack of quality. However, there is always a way and you can find it by trying to improve. Use similar maps as reference for mapping. There could be a time that you should decide whether to remap the whole thing and ultimately it will lead to ranking.

addendum: When mapping sliders, make sure if they fit within the beat of the red tick. Otherwise, you should always map them on WHITE TICKS. Modders will point out rhythm problems. If something doesn't sound right, they will let you know. :P

Good luck peeps. ;) I believe in you.
When I check back here this map must have improved a lot! Or else I'll be mad lmao.
Thank You Very Much :D
CernTheLion
Hi there! M4M as u request :3

Easy

  • [General]
  1. Set the slider tick rate to 1, imo it should be better

    [Map]
  2. 00:21:599 (1) - that's weird, make just one repetition, and place a circle after that
  3. 01:05:461 (3,4) - reduce this 'high jump'
  4. 01:07:944 (2,2) - stack this and 01:09:599 (1) - fix this blanket
Normal
  1. 00:05:875 (5,2) - stack this
  2. 00:19:116 (5) - remove the repetition, the white tick is important, so it must be clickable, and set the new combo on the white tick, and remove it from 00:20:357 (1) -
  3. 00:26:150 (4) - same as above
  4. 00:33:185 (4,5,6,7) - watch out here: there's random spacing, and try to fix this weird blanket 00:33:185 (4) - lol
  5. 00:36:495 (1,3) - stack :)
  6. 00:43:530 (1,3) - ^
  7. 01:09:185 - missing circle
Hard
  1. 00:50:978 (4,3) - stack
  2. 00:55:840 (1) - remove NC
  3. 01:01:737 (4) - too many repetitions
  4. 01:03:599 (2,4) - stack
  5. 01:07:944 (1,2,3,4,5) - that's weird, use ctrl+shift+D to make polygon circles
  6. 01:17:254 (2,2) - stack lol
Insane
  1. 00:00:082 (1,2,3) - you should use DS here
  2. 00:49:737 (1,3) - fix this overlap
  3. 01:10:013 (6,2) - stack with the tail of the slider
  4. 01:18:082 (2,2) - stack
Keep mapping, good luck :D
ncuh
NM request from my queue
[Shiro's Insane]
00:00:288 - there should be note
00:00:495 (2,3,4,5) - smth wrong there 00:01:013 (4) - there is shouldn't be note, 00:00:702 (3) - there should be a triple. That's how I see this http://i.imgur.com/NiPd6sV.png
00:01:530 (6,1) - http://i.imgur.com/0bSQ1VD.png beat on blue tic. You shouldn't ignore that
00:02:357 (2,3,4,5) - wrong triple and slider ends on more powerful beat. 00:02:668 (4) - delete this note
I can say about all moment with 1/2 sliders from red to white, but not sure about it's needed. Just rethink all there sliders. Just sometimes u starting w-r, sometimes r-w. That's looking, feeling and sounding NOT good. I will not speak about them(cuz it's too much), but I rly recommend use w-r sliders there and if u got r-w, you can just delete it and put 2 notes or smth else what u like
00:03:288 - there should be a note
00:04:116 - same^
00:04:323 (4) - delete it
00:04:944 - put note
00:05:357 - 00:05:771 - notes
00:07:426 - note
00:07:633 (4) - delete
00:08:254 - note
00:08:668 - note
00:09:082 - note
00:11:461 (5,6) - not between them. Do triple
00:12:386 - note
00:12:806 - there is might be a not. Playing better with it
00:17:978 (8) - delete it.
00:17:875 (7) - space it like http://i.imgur.com/0wOuatW.png
00:18:082 (1) - red tic - nothing, blue - vocal starting, white - beat. That's bad. Just do double http://i.imgur.com/kldu0jU.png
00:23:461 (3) - lol what?) delete it and just put note on blue tic
00:23:875 (4) - http://i.imgur.com/uu5ymwy.png
00:26:771 (5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/KCLFWDT.png
00:28:840 (3,1,2,3) - http://i.imgur.com/sLVZNJR.png
00:29:875 (1) - end should be on there 00:30:185
00:39:806 (1,2,3) - that's how it's should be http://i.imgur.com/M9jybJX.png
00:42:082 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - http://i.imgur.com/r3EjslU.png
00:29:564 (3,4) - put note there
00:45:599 (5,1) - http://i.imgur.com/lkFtqKC.png
00:46:633 (2) - delete
01:07:737 - 01:07:840 - notes
01:08:668 - note
01:08:771 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - http://i.imgur.com/h1aUT4q.png
01:11:564 - note
01:15:599 - might be note there
01:20:564 (8) - bad slider. So powerful beat in the middle
Topic Starter
MisakiAN

M1k0 wrote:

NM request from my queue
[Shiro's Insane]
00:00:288 - there should be note okay
00:00:495 (2,3,4,5) - smth wrong there 00:01:013 (4) - there is shouldn't be note, 00:00:702 (3) - there should be a triple. That's how I see this http://i.imgur.com/NiPd6sV.png Fixed
00:01:530 (6,1) - http://i.imgur.com/0bSQ1VD.png beat on blue tic. You shouldn't ignore that okay
00:02:357 (2,3,4,5) - wrong triple and slider ends on more powerful beat. 00:02:668 (4) - delete this note done
I can say about all moment with 1/2 sliders from red to white, but not sure about it's needed. Just rethink all there sliders. Just sometimes u starting w-r, sometimes r-w. That's looking, feeling and sounding NOT good. I will not speak about them(cuz it's too much), but I rly recommend use w-r sliders there and if u got r-w, you can just delete it and put 2 notes or smth else what u like okay ^^
00:03:288 - there should be a note put note
00:04:116 - same^
00:04:323 (4) - delete it okay
00:04:944 - put note ^
00:05:357 - 00:05:771 - notes ^
00:07:426 - note ^
00:07:633 (4) - delete ^
00:08:254 - note ^
00:08:668 - note ^
00:09:082 - note ^
00:11:461 (5,6) - not between them. Do triple fixed
00:12:386 - note ^
00:12:806 - there is might be a not. Playing better with it note?
00:17:978 (8) - delete it. okay
00:17:875 (7) - space it like http://i.imgur.com/0wOuatW.png fixed
00:18:082 (1) - red tic - nothing, blue - vocal starting, white - beat. That's bad. Just do double http://i.imgur.com/kldu0jU.png fixed
00:23:461 (3) - lol what?) delete it and just put note on blue tic okay
00:23:875 (4) - http://i.imgur.com/uu5ymwy.png
00:26:771 (5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/KCLFWDT.png
00:28:840 (3,1,2,3) - http://i.imgur.com/sLVZNJR.png
00:29:875 (1) - end should be on there 00:30:185 okay
00:39:806 (1,2,3) - that's how it's should be http://i.imgur.com/M9jybJX.png fixed
00:42:082 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - http://i.imgur.com/r3EjslU.png
00:29:564 (3,4) - put note there
00:45:599 (5,1) - http://i.imgur.com/lkFtqKC.png
00:46:633 (2) - delete
01:07:737 - 01:07:840 - notes
01:08:668 - note
01:08:771 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - http://i.imgur.com/h1aUT4q.png
01:11:564 - note
01:15:599 - might be note there okay
01:20:564 (8) - bad slider. So powerful beat in the middle maybe i can change it into repeat slider?
thanks for Modding :)
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