1. Injury (Hyper) - 7Key (2,95 stars, 1224 notes)
2. Pain (Another) - 7Key (4,37 stars, 1792 notes)
3. Scar (Normal) - 7Key (1,84 stars, 681 notes)
4. Torture (Insane) - 7Key (5,89 stars, 2555 notes)

Difficulty

Kiai moments: 00:47:214 - 00:58:642 ; 01:45:784 - 01:57:213 & 02:08:641 - 02:21:856
Critical moments: 01:55:784 - 01:57:213 & 02:20:070 - 02:21:498

<logo> <difficulty name> <BMS scale difficulty estimation>
<description>

Scar (Normal, ☆6)
This chart won't leave a mark. Contains mostly 1/2s from kick+hats and half mapped melody. Also contains 1/3s at end of some kiai parts and last critical moment.
Injury (Hyper, ☆11)
It won't injure your hands... hopefully. Consists of mostly 1/4 notes with 2-note chords slipped in it. The last kiai and critical moment contains single note 1/6 stairs.
Pain (Another, ☆12~★2)
Should you warm up properly and have proper amount of skill(?), this chart won't cause sore hands (again, hopefully). First and last kiai moments contains 1/6 stairs from various directions. The first critical part consists of helix-like 1/6 stairs, while the very last second moment contains 1/8 stairs.
Torture (Insane, ★9~11)
To be honest.... this chart tortures players minds more than the players hands, as you will probably marvel at how bad the chart is. The first kiai part should be a breeze, but beware of the 1/16 bursts. From there, things gets harder. The second kiai consists of chord streams, the first critical moment consists of 1/4 + 1/6 note combination, and the last part (kiai + critical) contains stairs at varying snaps ranging from 1/4 to 1/8, 1/6 trills and some minijacks.

Changelog

(dd/mm/yyyy)
- Change list

(05/05/2016)
- Initial Upload
- Finished mapping Scar chart

(07/05/2016)
- (Hopefully) Made first critical moment more playable (based on self testing) for Pain & Torture (Reworking Torture chart's last critical moment & last Kiai patterns)

(17/05/2016)
- Fixed snaps for Pain & Torture difficulty
- Reworked patterns (again, self testing) for Pain (should be fine... for now) & Torture (still not done yet) difficulty.
- Fixed tags
- Moved to WIP

(18/05/2016)
- Reworked patterns (again, self testing) for most difficulties.
- ...put back to pending, since I don't know where to put this actually LOL

(21/05/2016)
- Metadata fix. (Previously follows BMS files artist (witch's slave), instead of after event artist name (gmtn. (witch's slave)) since most users use the latter, but even then I'm still not sure)

(29/05/2016)
- Self modding (again) across all diffs based from playtest. Patterns should be more comfortable now... (thanks xanibabe!)

(02/06/2016)
- ...seriously I don't know how long I can keep self-modding like this...
- Torture's second kiai segment will be remapped, since 2-note trills doesn't represent the segment rather well...

(05/06/2016)
- Back to WIP, double checking snaps & remapping some parts
- Changed metadata

(29/06/2016)
- Remapped kiai parts for Injury and Torture.

(02/07/2016)
- Remapped ridiculous 1/6 and 1/8 double stairs part (Torture), with something more sane yet still tricky.

(07/07/2016)
- Remapped some parts to follow chord consistency (+ some tweaks inspired by the official BMS file)

(14/07/2016)
- Applied mods by Soul Evans. Thanks!

(15/07/2016)
- Remade the last part with delay stair style.

(18/07/2016)
- Variated the last kiai patterns

(19/07/2016)
- Applied mods by BillumMoto. Thanks!

(21/07/2016)
- Thorough surprise modding by pwhk. Thanks!

(23/07/2016)
- Remade second kiai for Torture submitted as kiai rework. Buffed Pain a little bit.

(28/07/2016)
- Applied mods by Wonki. Thanks!
- Resized BG to 1440x900.

(30/07/2016)
- Pattern revision at some parts for all diffs.

(31/07/2016)
- Applied mods by Eternalie. Thanks!

(18/08/2016)
- Applied mods by pporse. Thanks!
- Resized background to 1366x768. (Why I have to reapply background file for all diffs, instead of once for all.... orz)

(11/09/2016)
- Applied mods by Minseo2000. Thanks!

(12/09/2016)
- +2 notes = +0.06 SR? #SeemsLegit
- Fully applied Minseo2000 anchor mod (Sorry pporse )

(16/09/2016)
- Reverted some pattern changes for hand torturing purpose.

(27/09/2016)
- Been thinking for a while, Torture's break time is way too forgiving (8 measures), so made it 6 measures instead (normalized kiais again >:D)
- 6 STARS HYPE!

(01/10/2016)
- Applied mods from arcwinolivirus. Thanks!
- Torture is now (almost) relentless!!! (only 2 measures for break)

(04/10/2016)
- Buffed Normal and Hyper's final kiai, it now works as a bridge between Hyper and Another respectively. (Previously was though, but now it's made more obvious.)

(06/11/2016)
- Pitch relevancy mod by deadbill. Thanks!

(07/11/2016)
- Applied mods by kaythen. Thanks!

(08/12/2016)
- Applied mods by Syadow. Thanks!

(15/12/2016)
- Applied mods by Davin Fortune. Thanks!

(03/02/2017)
- Applied mods by Protastic101. Thanks!
- Overhauled Insane diff intro and last critical moment to be less overmapped (balanced compared to kiai) and more doable respectively (RIP 6 stars... ;;)
- Removed hidden minijacks during the last kiai's first stream ("hence" 5.9 stars)
- Insane is now restless.
- Tried to make the transition from Hyper second kiai to Another first kiai smoother.... (partitioned streams) hopefully it works....

vnlsk wrote:

sebenernya sih mantep beatmap nya, cuma keknya lebih diatur lagi pattern nya biar pas dipencet sama tangan, ga terlalu maksa mencet sesuai pattern jadinya, bisa lebih enjoy, nikmatin musik bukan chart

Soul Evans wrote:

Torture

00:34:892 - Add note on 1 for what? I'm following soft synth
00:34:982 - Add note on 7 ^
00:40:785 - You can try and rearange this part, it's a little vague and not that appealing to what your map is all about i'd suggest something like OK
00:46:499 -Same reasoning change it to another pattern, not necessarily but for consistency i guess it's cool OK
00:48:642 - Balance the left part, needs to be a little smoother for a role i guess Alright
00:57:035 (57035|1,57058|2,57080|4,57102|5,57124|1,57147|2,57169|4,57191|5) - Instead of these being super dense, why not make the somewhat a role? Hmm... does the term role mean like SV changes or LNs? I'm following drum rolls there... but will consider changing later
00:57:571 - Balance this part, it feels a little uneasy to play (Hopefully) Should be fine
01:08:062 (68062|0) - Maybe move to 1 Yes! Nice one!
01:26:454 (86454|0,86499|5,86499|6,86499|4,86633|1,86633|0,86633|2,86745|4,86745|5,86745|6,86856|2,86856|4,86856|3,86968|1,86968|0,86968|2,87102|5,87102|6,87102|4,87213|6,87213|2,87213|0,87213|1) - Imo this works better : Yes!
01:48:016 (108016|3) - 01:53:998 - Please reconsider remapping this part, there are alot of sounds and patterns that will go nicely instead of what you used at kiai. That particular pattern is currently being a place holder, I don't know how to make the most of them...
02:10:070 - Rearrange these seriously that does not look good to play and wouldn't go smoothly It's meant to be gimmicky. The kiai is meant to be progressively harder. Changed it a little bit though...
02:19:951 (139951|0,139951|1,139981|4,140070|6,140070|5,140129|3,140129|2,140189|1,140189|0,140248|5,140248|6,140308|2,140308|3,140367|1,140367|0,140427|6,140427|5,140486|4,140486|3,140546|1,140546|0,140606|5,140606|6,140665|2,140665|0) - Do this You're basically ask me to remap the whole part.... (which I will, but not with the pattern you suggest...)

Joezapy wrote:

Your difficulty names remind me of Figue Folle's difficulty names, which means you might want to tweak them a little bit to make the meaning easier to understand, like Parachor did with his set.

Also, this song deserves some good SV changes. You should consider adding some.

BilliumMoto wrote:

oh hi there thanks for the random m4m that came out of nowhere it was a really good mod thanks i'll try to make this one good too you said you wanted easier diffs modded so here are all the diffs ily

whoa this map was really fun actually nice work!

tinkerings inside

[Pain]
Very good sense of pitch in the intro, you play an instrument? No, I'm not....

00:12:392 (12392|6,12482|5,12571|4,12660|3,12749|2) - this percussion is very erratic, and deserves a more chaotic pattern than 76543. I personally feel 74513 I agree.

00:18:732 (18732|2,19089|1,19446|5) - are all ghost notes, although i understand these are here partially for playability only There's an inaudible percussion, and for build up. But yeah will remove it later.

00:20:785 (20785|6) - The beat after this shouldn't be blank, it breaks the flow. It's intended for transition, but I'll see what I can do about it...

00:22:571 (22571|3) - The sounds here are deserving of more than a single LN, maybe this? Also, same for Torture diff
Wow, nice one! (tweaked it a little bit)

00:23:285 (23285|1,23285|3,23285|5,23642|4,23642|0,23642|6,23642|2,23999|4,23999|5) - Add some 1/4ths before these notes, I promise that a 4* player can handle that OK

Whew, this pitch relevance and structure treats me very well, nicely done.

00:32:749 (32749|5) - Add some notes here? It feels like a gap atm added

00:32:928 (32928|4) - and etc:
Every time you have a gap in between the beats, it feels like a disturbance in the flow, since playing a 4* map we expect denser patterns with 1/4ths, especially at the end of phrases. You should fill these gaps in for this difficulty. This also applies if all you have is an LN in between the beats, such as in 00:40:785 (40785|5,41142|3) (personally i think trills would be great here). I'll stop pointing these out to make it easier for both of us.
Added everything except 00:40:785 (40785|5,41142|3). They're intended for the progressive difficulty gimmick. (Also you mentioned trills, which is actually not intended to be part of the map since it's too hard, but alright, made Torture living to it's name >:D)

00:35:785 (35785|6) - Maybe this isn't a bad thing, but the 7th column is feeling a little lonely in this section. Now you mentioned it, you're right, but I'm following strict pitching here so.... ._.

00:56:142 (56142|1,56142|2) - should be a 1/4th later? Hmm... it was intended for progressive gimmick but due to alteration of the second part I think it's fine to add it anyway...

01:18:821 (78821|1) - These patterns are great and pitch relevant, but from here on out, I notice an abundance of 1234567 and 1357 246 patterns and their variations. I would like to see some more variety, but that's your call. I'll leave it like that for now...

01:43:374 (103374|3,103463|1) - are different pitches from 01:43:642 (103642|3,103731|1) , so they should be moved to the right one column Rearranged it. Should be fine now...

Nice pseudo-jumpstream patterns

02:10:338 (130338|4) - not sure if i'm bad or this section is significantly harder than the rest of the map I think I've said it on your queue about progressive difficulty gimmick...

02:17:302 - missed a note? only just now noticed this, not sure if this mistake was made earlier in the map as well Intended for drums only.

[Injury]
Because you made 00:04:624 (4624|4) - follow the higher bell sounds, 00:01:678 (1678|3,2749|3,3821|3) - should all be 1/4 later. Also happens a bunch more times later on But the 1/2s are more audible.... changed some that's audible

I still feel like a lot of these gaps you're leaving are too much. Fill them in and keep your players' fingers moving!

00:24:357 (24357|2) - Section here has the same deal with some of the notes being better 1/4 later, fitting with the melody. Fixed

00:34:357 (34357|6) - massive gap Added trills

00:38:285 (38285|0) - there's another note in the middle of this LN, map it too! this happens one more time It was intended actually but alright. 1/2s are worth of it's own note.

00:54:714 (54714|5,54833|3,54952|1) - I feel like using 1/3s to simulate 1/6ths doesn't really work, LNs instead? Or just staircase it, up to you Made it LN

01:10:071 (70071|0) - you make the player play these as 1/4ths later on anyway, why not make these 1/4ths as well? just with lesser layering perhaps. I'm more worried about the difficulty gap of this part....

01:40:160 (100160|2,100249|3,100338|4,100428|5,100517|3,100606|4,100695|5) - consider having these follow pitch Eh? It already did, didn't it?

01:48:403 (108403|4,108522|2) - 1/3rds in place of 1/6ths again, not sure this works. happens a few more times i think Fixed all

02:05:427 (125427|0) - there's a note 1/2 after this LN begins, should be mapped since the player is playing the melodic line for the majority of this map and suddenly switching to the reverse kick feels wrong 00:38:285 (38285|0) - in a nutshell

[Scar]

00:24:535 (24535|1,25607|1) - even in the easiest difficulty, I think these should be on the 1/4th after where they are now, i'll avoid pointing them out from here out for both of us I think I get what you mean.

00:49:535 (49535|3) - cymbal is more audible than kick, move this note forward 1/4? this happens again much later in the map If you mean forward mean later then no, it has no cymbal or kicks there... If you mean before then it's just awkward to have a cymbal note when there's another one 1/4 after, so I put it there.

There are parts of this map where the song is at its highest intensity but the mapping actually becomes less dense. This is not what you want, generally, unless you were going for the counterintuitive approach, but I don't think it works for maps as easy as this. Such as...?

[TORTURE AAAAA]
I see a lot of |13|24|35|46|57| patterns in this diff, just be aware that you do it a hella lot i guess

01:11:678 (71678|0,71678|1,72035|2,72035|1) - should these be doubles? happens again It was for density matching, but OK, removed some.

01:36:856 (96856|6) - fill these gaps in a little bit I think it looks better too now.

nice jacks, careful when you have 2|123, or on the other hand, or the other way around, since that requires a lot of finger independence which i'm not sure many people have I've tried my best to balance them....

01:55:784 (115784|6) - mother of god lmao, this might be a bit too much of a difficulty spike I tried to capture the fuzzy and chaotic feel of that part by making it jacks, but you said it's too hard I dunno what to do...

02:03:284 (123284|6) - finish yo map Intended for break. Inspired by insane BMS files where they put breaks like that... (but it could use some work...)

02:10:070 (130070|5) - those hidden jack patterns whaaa Better than 1/6 double stairs :p (maybe I'll change this when another one complains...)

02:20:784 (140784|1) - *mash mash mash*

good stuff man, song is different, map is nice, best of luck! Thanks!!!

pwhk wrote:

oh I considered mapping this song but have no time, so let mod it

| 0 - 6 |

[ Scar ]
00:14:535 (14535|3,14892|3,15249|3,15607|3) - move these to col 5 for better balance OK
00:21:499 (21499|0,21767|6) - use doubles for sudden stopping sound? Hmm... not sure it'll be too hard for beginners but OK...
00:38:285 (38285|0) - the main is actually 1/2 here, spell them out? Too soft for Normal I think.....
00:43:999 (43999|0) - ^ ^
00:49:535 (49535|3) - this sound should be 1/4 earlier This one is the same as 1/4 earlier, putting it earlier would be weird imo, since it has another kick+cymbal 1/4 later
00:54:714 (54714|2,54892|0) - due to the main going to 1/8 here, you may want to put 1/4 notes here to emphasize that 1/6s. It's too hard for Normal (easiest of the set), so I put LN instead
00:58:285 (58285|3,58404|2,58523|1) - mirror for pitch :)
01:06:857 - cymbal present, add note? but no kicks....
01:18:106 - ^ Not sure how I missed that...
01:22:928 - the kick is 1/2 from this point on. Change to 1/2s and remove doubles? OK.
01:25:071 - kicks is 1/4 in this measure but spelling all those is too hard for N. Simply use an LN? Added.
01:31:499 (91499|0,91678|1) - swap for pitch And rearranged a little bit.
01:33:642 (93642|1,93820|1,93999|3,94178|3,94356|5,94535|5) - main don't suggest jacks here, what about 1,0,3,2,5,4? OK.
01:36:142 (96142|3) - move to 5 for balance OK.
01:40:249 (100249|0,100428|1,100606|2) - 1,3,5 for balance? Moved 01:40:785 (100785|3,100785|5) instead
01:59:534 (119534|3,119713|4,119713|2,119891|3) - this sounded completely different to 01:58:820 (118820|3,118998|2,118998|4,119177|3,119356|1,119356|5) - and probably should not use same pattern. What about 4,3,2? Made kick+cymbals 2 notes.
02:02:570 (122570|4) - move to 5 to avoid jacking with 02:03:106 (123106|4) - OK...
02:07:391 (127391|1) - move to 2 to avoid same col as 02:07:927 (127927|1) - Re-arranged it, since I want the 1/2s look forwards
02:05:427 (125427|0) - as 00:38:285 (38285|0) - same
02:10:963 (130963|3) - as 00:49:535 (49535|3) - same
02:16:141 - as 00:54:714 same
02:19:713 (139713|2,139832|1,139951|0) - mirror for pitch It's descending...

[ Injury ]
00:12:392 (12392|3,12571|3,12749|3) - jacks is unwarranted. 4,3,2? wanted to capture the chaotic feel of the fade, but alright
00:39:714 (39714|2) - move to 3 as different pitch OK
00:40:071 (40071|2,40160|4,40249|6,40339|3,40428|0,40517|2,40607|4,40696|6) - use more columns would be better. What about 0,2,5,3,1,2,4,6?
Never thought about that!
00:40:785 - add note for kick as in 00:41:142 (41142|0) - it's after 1/4 streams, so I think it'll be too hard...
00:42:571 (42571|2) - as 00:39:714 (39714|2) same
00:45:785 - as 00:40:071 same
00:46:499 - as 00:40:785 same
00:49:446 (49446|0,49446|6,49535|4,49535|2) - the cymbal is 1/4 earlier No it isn't....
01:18:285 (78285|3) - the SE is 1/2 later for soft melody...
01:37:928 - 01:38:999 - using doubles for 1/2 here results in de-emphasizing strong sound such as 01:36:856 - , which is not good. Use singles? Hmm... 3 notes at strong ones should do....
01:40:785 - 01:42:213 - ^ keep doubles for where cymbals are present made 3 notes instead (except 01:40:785, since it's after 1/4s)
01:43:553 (103553|6,103642|4,103731|2) - shift 1 col left as lower pitch Hmm.... wouldn't it be too hard for entry level players?
02:02:927 - same as the entire section of 00:39:714, not repeating, revise breaking bad habits :p
02:18:998 (138998|2,139088|0) - shift 1 col right for higher pitch Was afraid it'll look rather bad, but on second thought I think it's not bad...

[ Pain ]
00:05:249 (5249|0) - bell appears absent here. Remove? I'm following soft bells.
00:06:321 (6321|0) - ^ ^
00:15:249 (15249|3,15339|2,15607|4,15696|2) - swap to be consistent with previous For variation....
00:18:732 (18732|2,19089|1) - 00:19:446 (19446|5) - and more - avoid ghost notes. remove? Planning to, but somehow I forgot :p
00:41:678 (41678|5,41767|3,41857|5,42035|1,42214|5,42303|3,42392|5,42571|4,42749|1) - shift 1 col right for more variety OK
00:44:535 (44535|5,44624|3,44714|5,44892|2,45071|5,45160|3,45249|5) - ^ OK
00:49:535 (49535|2) - remove? does not appear to go anywhere There's cymbal there....
00:58:404 (58404|5,58404|2,58523|1,58523|4) - swap for pitch Alright
00:58:642 - 01:07:214 - mirror the entire section for more variety compare to 00:24:357 - Wow...
01:10:249 (70249|1,70338|2,70428|3,70517|4) - shift 1 col left would be prettier and more pitch relevant Yup!
01:18:821 (78821|1,78910|2,78999|3,79088|4) - ^ ^
01:26:142 (86142|5,86187|6,86231|0,86276|1,86321|2,86365|3,86410|4,86454|5,86499|1,86499|0,86499|6) - mirror for pitch I think I find a better solution...
01:36:767 (96767|2) - move to 3 to avoid shield which is not called for to 1 instead.
01:38:285 (98285|3,98285|5,98463|6,98463|4) - move 1 col left to avoid 1/2 jacks Intended.
01:41:678 (101678|6,101856|2) - these sounds seems to have too many notes (sound not that strong). remove one note each? The melody is 2 notes each, I don't see any reason to remove them...
02:10:963 (130963|5) - remove? no sound? Same with 00:49:535
02:17:302 - add note for main That part is intended for drums only.

[ Torture ]
00:17:214 (17214|6,17214|0,17392|0,17392|6) - revise this pattern to avoid unwarranted jacks. what about 00:17:392 (17392|6,17392|0,17482|5,17482|1,17571|4,17571|2) - to (24)(06)(15) and repeat? 15-06-24 s
00:18:732 (18732|3) - as in Pain, avoid ghost notes OK
00:24:357 - 00:32:928 - seriously consider fitting the main instrument in here instead of still using doubles like previously copy pasted 00:58:642 - 01:07:035 instead
00:49:535 (49535|2) - as in Pain, remove? same reason
00:58:404 (58404|4,58404|5,58404|6,58523|1,58523|5,58523|3) - mirror for pitch? That would cause massive jacking at 00:58:285 ...
00:58:999 - missing note? (compared to 00:59:357 - and 00:59:714 - )
01:00:071 - ^
01:01:142 - ^ (Check all missing notes (2,2,3 chords) and ensure consistency, lots of missing notes in this section)
1/2 bells: 3-1-3. 1/4 bells: 2-2-3
01:10:249 (70249|1,70338|2,70428|3,70517|4) - as Pain, revise OK
01:30:606 - ^ ...?
01:45:784 - arrrggggghhh minijacks......... anyway the instrument which jack corresponds to has a pitch which actually does not match the position of jacks. Jacks should really be used only when the sound is the same. You may want to revise and follow the instrument more tightly.I'm still thinking what I can come up with....
02:03:284 - where are the main instrument???? ..... 02:05:784 - ...and you suddenly revive it here...... You're not the only one to ask me remap this break....
02:10:784 (130784|0,130844|1,130903|0,130963|1,131022|0,131082|1) - 1/6 ringtrills, ouch........ swap cols for 02:10:844 (130844|1,130963|1,131082|1,131141|2) - ? Moved one to col 0
02:11:141 (131141|6,131201|5,131260|6,131320|5,131379|6,131439|5,131498|6) - again. move 02:11:201 (131201|5,131320|5,131439|5) - to 4?
The trills are already balanced for every finger combination.
02:08:730 (128730|2) - as in Pain, revise It's the hardest diff, so.... (Made the LN 1/6 shorter before it)
02:11:498 - this measure seem disproportionately easy from the section around it. What about mapping the main instrument as double here? You probably want to do doubles in 02:08:641 - too Inspired by Extasim :p Edit: Normalized!
p.s. I don't think it worth ★11~12 as the patterns are relatively easy to read and hit. around ★8~10 I guess? Dunno....

Good luck~ (you may want to mod one of my maps if you want )When I have time.

1. Uncheck widescreen support
2. change img size 1366x768
3. No hitsound yet? add pls

Wonki wrote:

Team Symphony Mania Modding Queue

NM req
hi O/ O/

1. Uncheck widescreen support Whoops
2. change img size 1366x768 Uhhh... The original picture is 1440x900....
3. No hitsound yet? add pls I'm planning to rank this with only basic hitsounds...

Scar

01:55:784 (115784|3,115784|0,115963|2,116141|1,116141|4,116320|3,116498|2,116498|5,116677|4,116856|3,116856|6,117034|5,117213|4,117213|0) - have to nerf
so hard to NM diff pls change

01:58:641 (118641|0,118641|6,118820|3,118998|4,118998|2,119177|3,119356|5,119356|1,119534|4,119534|2,119713|6,119713|0,119891|3,120070|5,120070|1) - same

02:01:677 (121677|1,121677|5,121856|6,121856|0) - same

Fixed all

Injury

Personal opinion, 02:20:427 (140427|6,140486|5,140546|4) - ctrl j Nice!

Pain

00:07:214 (7214|1,7392|2,7482|3,7571|4,7749|6,7928|5,8107|0,8285|1,8464|2,8553|3,8642|4,8821|6,8999|5,9178|0,9357|1,9535|2,9624|3,9714|4,9892|5,10071|6) - use drum sound different section00:01:500 (1500|1,1678|2,1767|3,1857|4,2035|6,2214|5,2392|0,2571|1,2749|2,2839|3,2928|4,3107|6,3285|5,3464|0,3642|1,3821|2,3910|3,3999|4,4178|5,4357|6,4535|2,4624|5,4714|3,4892|5,5071|3,5249|0,5428|6,5607|2,5696|5,5785|3,5964|5,6142|3,6321|0,6499|5,6678|1,6767|4,6857|3,7035|2) - here
I get what you mean, but I'm still following bells there...

02:07:927 (127927|6,127986|5,128046|4,128105|3,128165|2,128225|1,128284|0,128344|1,128403|2,128463|3,128522|4,128582|5,128641|6) - i think use LN is right i dont think this part can use 1/6 ...but why? It has insane icon so I think it's fine....

02:10:784 (130784|0,130844|1,130873|6,130873|4,130903|2,130963|5,130963|0,130963|3,131022|1,131082|2,131141|6,131141|0,131141|3,131201|5,131260|4,131320|3,131379|2,131439|1,131498|6,131498|4,131498|0) - same same

02:13:701 (133701|6,133760|5,133820|4,133879|6,133939|5,133998|4) - same i dont mention it anymore same

Hmm... looks like you're concerned with the difficulty jump compared to easier diffs....

Nep-ternalie wrote:

Hi there :3
Modsu , hope it can help

Da don

Collumn = 1/2/3/4/5/6/7
[Scar]
00:20:964 (20964|4) - you should add a note here , it feels easier to catch up imo OK
00:22:214 (22214|4) - add one more note ? same sound as : 00:21:767 (21767|4,21767|6) - , 00:21:499 (21499|2,21499|0) - uh.... alright
00:29:624 (29624|5) - add a note here ? so you keep following the instru Yep
00:49:535 (49535|3) - this note should be here : 00:49:446 - (the drum crash is here) The point you mention also has drum crash there
01:03:642 (63642|6) - move to 2 for pitch same sound as previous note (imo) But I put it there to emphasize the descending bells...
01:06:857 (66857|0) - add another note for cymbal But it has no kick, hence only 1 note
01:18:106 (78106|2) - add note ? ^
01:25:071 (85071|6) - this LN should end here : 01:26:142 (86142|5) - Dunno why I put it like that...
02:10:963 (130963|3) - move down to the blue line : 02:10:873 (130873|3) - Same with 00:49:535
02:20:070 (140070|4) - this LN starts 1/3 late, it should starts at the same time you press this note : 02:19:951 (139951|0) - then re extend the end by 1/3 for the missing length I separate it on purpose to focus just on the kick, but alright.

[Injury]
00:02:749 (2749|5) - I suggest adding a note here, this gap feels really tricky imo , since you are following the main bass and main instru at same time (suggest in 6 , but like avoid trills here)
00:03:821 (3821|4) - so on for this aswell ^
00:04:357 (4357|6) - from here you stop following the bass thingys , such as here : 00:05:249 (5249|0) - or here : 00:06:321 (6321|6) - , both parts are kind of simillar and should be the same in term of density (layering)
00:18:285 (18285|4) - move to 6 , this is the end of the 2 4 6 pattern and it feels weird to put it on 5 imo , also it plays nicely
00:31:321 (31321|3) - here you suddenly dosn't follow the instru anymore , I suggest moving the note to 6 then moving it to : 00:31:410 (31410|3) - (the instru sound is on the blue line)
Fixed all, since it's mostly consistency of the bell melody, something I agree with

[Pain]
01:41:499 (101499|2) - I'd suggest add another note in 3 here, it feels abit weird to make a double stair and then end up with a single press LN . It's just the same with 01:32:749 ... I'll keep it for now
01:47:302 (107302|6,107361|4,107421|6,107481|4) - I think this should be only 1/4 s My ears tells me these are 1/8s.... but yes.
01:53:016 (113016|3,113076|2,113106|0,113135|5,113195|4) - ^ same , this is really hard and tricky to play there is a sound here , but like this sound isn't so loud and this isn't yet the hardest diff , probably should consider nerfing that part abit
Fixed the rest of the similar parts.

Good Luck :3 (awnsered the strawpool aswell) >ω<

pporse wrote:

hi

from pm req

sorry im late ;_;
Don't worry

column set
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

MOD

[General]

you should change bg size


△ changed bg size (1366x768)
OK!!!

[Scar]
00:08:464 (8464|3) - delete
i think that it is better to use 1/1 snap in this part.
OK

00:09:892 (9892|0) - delete
same as before
OK

00:29:714 (29714|2) - if it is main sound,
change to normal note and add a note at 00:29:892 -

but if it is drum roll sound, keep it.
For drum roll, because focusing main instrument too much will make it similar to harder diffs.

00:49:357 (49357|3) - delete
and 00:49:535 (49535|0,49535|2) - move to 00:49:446 -
Only delete, that part you mention also have kick+cymbal...

00:57:928 - how about this?

:)

01:06:857 - add a note on 1st column No kick

01:32:749 (92749|5) - move to 5th column
01:35:606 (95606|1) - move to 4th column
it's just my idea. i think it is better to use light mini-jack on the spot.
Hmm.... I get your idea (1/6 simplification) but for pitching reason I'm not changing this for now...

01:38:999 - how about this?

In conjunction with 01:36:856 (96856|2,96856|4,97213|1,97213|5,97570|6,97570|0) -
:)

02:10:784 (130784|3) - delete
02:10:963 (130963|4,130963|6) - move to 02:10:873 -
As previous

02:19:713 (139713|2) - move to 1st column
02:19:951 (139951|0) - move to 3rd column
just my idea.
if you want to keep the LNs of 1st & 7th column, ignore it :3
:3 (For variety, so I'll keep that as it is)


[Injury]
00:35:339 (35339|0,35428|1) - it is really uncomfortable TwT
00:35:428 (35428|1) - move to 6th column
and 00:35:607 (35607|5) - move to 2nd column
:( (fixed)

00:57:392 - add a note on 4th column
00:57:660 - ^
like 00:48:821 (48821|3,49089|3) -
Wow.

02:20:010 - add a note on 1/3 snap
there is sound like 02:20:070 (140070|4,140129|5,140189|6) -
Might kill the pattern, so will consider later
Edit: added


[Pain]
00:07:214 - ~ 00:10:071 -
i think that it is better to use more notes at the kick sound.
I Agree!

02:19:951 (139951|6,139951|5) - add a note
How I forgot that owo

02:19:951 - ~ 02:21:454 - how about this?

△at 02:19:951 - ~ 02:20:784 -


△at 02:20:784 - ~ 02:21:454 -
Want to try something different, but I can't T.T, so I used yours.

[Torture]
00:33:999 - how about this?

Yep

00:51:053 - add a note on 3rd column
there is kick sound.
Wanted to focus just on main melody.

01:39:713 (99713|3,99892|1) - shift end point until 01:40:070 -
it seems that maybe you worried about uncomfortable pattern.
but when I play a modified pattern, it was fine.
i hope that it was changed :3
Hummm..... I made it because I suck at LNs :3 (fixed anyway, since it looks better as well)

01:45:784 - ~ 01:57:213 - nice pattern. This pattern is my favorite part of the map.
plz don't change it ><
>ω<

nice map

take the star >< Waaa thank you!!!

and..i'm concerned about the gap between Pain and Torture But.... Maniera.....

good luck

Minseo2000 wrote:

From the RRM Mania Modding Queue

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Mod delivery!
My mod may include some points that contrast your mapping style so do take it lightly.

General

You might want a difficulty between Pain and Torture as the SR gap is around 1.7*s, which is pretty big. Most difficulty gaps are under 1.5*s apart. Maniera SR gap is around 1.8* tho...

The difficulty names aren't very obvious. You might want to add more obvious difficulty tags next to the difficulty names you have right now (like Figue Folle, Chinese Restaurant, etc.) since you're not the only one complaining here... Changed the diff names.

Pain

00:10:071 - ~ 00:12:214 - Apparently, this difficulty is the only difficulty with notes other than the single LN in this section. You might want to either remove notes from here and only leave the LN, or add notes to the other diffs. I recommend the latter. Yep
02:07:986 (127986|1,128046|2,128105|3,128165|4,128225|5,128344|1,128403|2,128463|3,128522|4,128582|5) - What are these notes supposed to mean? I cannot hear any sounds that this can represent, and no other difficulties have this pattern here. Soft 1/6 synths, just like 00:40:785 - 00:41:499

Torture

Before I start picking out stuff one by one, I would like to mention a few general stuff.

Finger balance
This diff generally has alot of notes at columns 1, 2, and 6, 7. From what I can see, alot of it seems to come from trying to make your patterns look symmetrical. Thought that's nice looking, unless there's a need to put emphasis on particular sounds, try not to put too many notes on the same columns.
You have small anchors like 00:29:714 (29714|0,29892|0,30071|0,30249|0) - 01:35:428 (95428|0,95428|6,95606|6,95606|0,95785|0,95785|6,95963|0) - , turns (?) like 00:33:464 (33464|0,33464|6,33553|5,33553|1,33642|0,33642|6) - 01:08:642 (68642|0,68642|6,68732|1,68732|5,68821|0,68821|6) - , and other stacks like 00:37:303 (37303|5,37303|1,37482|1,37482|5,37839|1,38017|5,38017|1,38196|1,38196|5) - . Most of the stacks in this difficulty are at 2, and 6, which isn't really good for finger balance and can tire people out needlessly on certain fingers. Additionally, alot of the smaller stacks are placed on columns 1 and 7, which attacks the weakest fingers of a player (ring fingers for space users, ring and pinkie for pinkie users.) I highly recommend moving some of your notes to columns 3, 4, and 5.
Hmmm... that worries me... Remapped those parts a little bit, except 00:37:303 (37303|5,37303|1,37482|1,37482|5,37839|1,38017|5,38017|1,38196|1,38196|5)- they're following pitch, and 01:08:642 (68642|0,68642|6,68732|1,68732|5,68821|0,68821|6) - these should be fine for 6 stars players.

I was planning not to fix them to emphasize the word Torture.

Do note that you use a lot of patterns double stairs like [13] [24] [35] [46] [57] which can be quite uncomfortable to hit if overused. Changed a few.


00:29:892 (29892|6) - I recommend moving this to 4 for better readability.Remapped that part
00:30:249 (30249|0,30339|1) - It would be nice to swap the columns of these notes. they are for bell pitch
00:48:642 - ~ 00:49:714 - How does this pattern look? Cool!
01:16:588 (76588|0,76767|0,76946|0,77124|0) - Any reason to stack this? pitch
01:27:213 (87213|1,87392|1,87571|1,87749|1,87928|1) - You might want to get rid of this anchor. Simply moving 01:27:481 (87481|4,87481|3,87571|1,87571|2,87660|4,87660|5) - 1 column right will remove it. Anchored on purpose for pitch, but alright
01:42:169 (102169|2,102303|2,102481|2,102660|2,102838|2,103017|2,103195|2,103374|2) - Now this anchor is really long. And the hand balance doesn't seem all that great either. I do have a suggestion for this section but it does break your patterning concept. Suggestion starts from 01:41:856 - .Anchored on purpose for pitch. Changed them a little bit though. (About hand balance, it looks fine to me though (Right thumb spacebar player :p))
01:46:409 (106409|1,106588|1) - Please move this to 3 and 01:46:766 (106766|2,106945|2,106945|1) - 1 column left. OK
01:47:481 (107481|5,107481|4) - And this 1 column right. OK
01:48:641 - ~ 01:57:213 - I would recommend moving some notes to column 4 and toning down on the trills a bit. This section is too dense for me to fix anchors without repatterning so no suggestions Sorry. ....

Fun and unique mapset.
Have a star and good luck on ranking! Thanks for another star!!!

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arcwinolivirus wrote:

"Arcwinolivirus' M4M-only contract"

A contract to be fulfilled as exchange of mod.

Song: gmtn. (witch's slave) - Daraku no Sono (stryver12)
Number of difficulties modded in my map: 5 - All 7K difficulties.

Note:
• First of all, I would want to apologize if I ever say something that will hurt your feelings as a mapper. Remember that I only want to give advices, suggestions, recommendations and sideas for some improvement in your map. Please do understand and thank you.

• do not be afraid to reject some parts of my mod. I am not perfect and I am not always right. But I do give my best to mod with sense. Also, I do not bite rawr.

• If I suggest to "remove or ctrl function moves" on certain note/s, do not forget and be sure to move the hitsound on the other note beside the suggested note. This is because I only mod the notes and with that, I do not pay attention on the hitsounds placements.

• Sorry for the late mod, I actually did not want any mod after I closed my m4m. Seems fair on both sides.

[General]
Audio: OK!
BG: OK!
BPM: OK!
Offset: OK!
Preview Time: OK!

AiMod:
• No problem!

Column:
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[Normal]

SPOILER

00:09:357 (9357|1) - move to 1 since you made 00:07:214 (7214|2,7571|4,7928|2) - and 00:08:285 (8285|5,8642|1,8999|5) - every after 3 notes, you change column. whoops

00:12:214 (12214|5) - reduce length until 00:12:571 - and add note at 00:12:571 - to column 2. The reason is there are no long sound after 00:12:571 - oh yes

00:34:357 (34357|1) - Suggesting to reduce length until 00:34:357 (34357|1) - and move 00:35:607 (35607|5) - to 4 so it can be easier to execute and clearer for vision. I think you get the reduction time wrong... but I get it

00:49:714 (49714|4) - change to LN until 00:50:071 - (optional) they are only for drums so no LNs will ever be added

00:52:571 (52571|2) - same as above. ^

02:21:498 - add LN at 4 until 02:21:856 - to emphasize that bass-like sound. Reserved for Another & Insane because on Hyper it will kill the pattern symmetrism, so I omitted that.

[Hyper]

SPOILER

00:13:285 (13285|0,13642|0,13999|0,14357|0) - move to 2 so it can be similar to 00:17:392 (17392|1,17482|3,17571|5,17749|1,17839|3,17928|5,18107|1,18196|3,18285|5) - Oh how I forgot that too...

00:50:249 (50249|5,50428|5) - move to 7 to be same as 00:50:785 (50785|6,50964|6) - with the same sound the pattern is 23656 - 13757, so nope

00:51:321 (51321|5) - ctrl h so the next pattern can be executed comfortably.still want to keep ascending, so...

01:18:285 (78285|3) - extend LN until 01:18:642 - since bass-like sound ends there.for soft melody

01:28:553 (88553|4,88642|2) - ctrl H for better execution. Yes

01:31:499 (91499|0) - move to 7 Moved another one

01:33:820 (93820|0,93910|1) - move one column to right. Yup

02:11:677 (131677|5,131856|5) - move to 7 same explanation as the previous one.

02:12:748 (132748|5) - ctrl h same

02:14:534 (134534|5,134713|5) - move to 7 same

02:21:498 - add LN like what I suggested on Normal. read the explanation at Normal.

[Another]

SPOILER

This should be the 'Insane' Difficulty. Swap the difficulty name to the hardest difficulty. You can as well do like 'Pain (Insane)'
Difficulty notation: LR2 (Beginner -> Normal- > Hyper -> Another -> Insane)

00:22:749 - http://puu.sh/rsSYO/e897f8aeed.png much comfortable to execute. I don't see how is that any different though...

00:36:321 (36321|1) - move to 3, awkward to execute since ring + middle. Also same as 00:39:178 (39178|2) - forgot :p

00:44:357 (44357|0,44357|2) - move two columns to the right. Ruins consistency tho...

00:50:607 (50607|1) - move to 3 nope, for consistency for that particular section

00:53:464 (53464|1,53553|2) - move two columns to the right. whoops

00:59:535 (59535|1) - move to 3 bell pitch

01:00:607 (60607|1) - ^ ^

01:05:428 (65428|0) - move to 5 Yep

01:06:499 (66499|0) - ^ Bell Pitch

01:43:195 (103195|1,103285|2) - Swap column since this is so uncomfortable to execute. Yes!

01:45:784 (105784|0) - move to 5 Why though... it's noisy part so....

02:21:498 - Add LN here for that bass-like sound. OK

[Insane]

SPOILER

Should be the 'Another' Difficulty. You can do it like 'Pain (Another)'

00:10:071 - until 00:12:214 - Map for the xylophone-like sound since you mapped it at Another.But the intro is focused at percussions. So I put hats.

00:21:499 - add note to 2 since same strength as 00:21:767 (21767|1,21767|5,21767|3) - triple note. Omitted on purpose to avoid anchoring with 00:21:276 (21276|1) - Edit: ehhh I seen worse anchoring in the kiais.... added :p

00:22:035 - add note to 6 like you did at Another.oh yea

00:34:357 (34357|4) - move to 00:34:446 - Oh... my... God.... (forgot lol)

01:16:588 (76588|0,76767|0,76946|0,77124|0) - rearrange these notes. Melody pitch. Try to listen it again.

02:02:927 - until 02:08:641 - I think you forgot to buff this part. Add more notes since this is like the easiest part of the difficulty yet the sounds are still intense. You're the third person to say about that particular part.

02:10:784 (130784|0,130844|1,130903|0,130963|1,131022|0,131082|1,131141|6,131141|0,131201|5,131260|6,131320|5,131379|6,131439|5) - are really hard to execute since ring + middle finger. I suggest to rearrange them into atleast stair pattern or spread. You can also 02:10:844 (130844|1,130963|1,131082|1) - move to 3 then 02:11:201 (131201|5,131320|5,131439|5,131498|4) - swap column. Remapped that to index jacks and mid+index trills. Should play better now.

I like this difficulty, fits with the song's hardcore.Thank you!

[Overall]
oooh gmtn, never failed to amuse me on his/her tracks! nice song choice~

Thank you so much for the contract, Good luck and until next time~

Please vote here as feedback for my M4M modding performance: t/372334

~ END OF CONTRACT ~

deadbill wrote:

weekend ya

deadbill wrote:

opini ane, ga usah kudos kalau kurang guna

Hyper

00:10:071 - music boxnya masih bisa dimap di sini
yup

00:32:928 - 00:34:357 - undermapped kalau kalaupun refer ke crash, ketukannya salah. mending kick difokusin deh
Hmmm iya juga ya. Sebelumnya takut spreading Normal Hypernya berlebihan tapi ternyata fine.

contoh


01:10:071 - euuhh... refer ke main melody atau backing?
kalau backing doang ketukannya begini
maunya backing cuma pitchingnya rada susah T.T (dibikin ulang sebisanya)
contoh pattern


kalau melody utama
contoh


kalau gabung ya.. terawang2 aje hehehe

gamasala sih pakai 1/4 asalkan pas, toh beberapa bagian lain juga pakai

01:54:356 - ayayay, pitchnya mas huehue
contoh

hueee (dibikin ulang sesuai caraku :p)

01:57:213 - disini bisa tambahin deh, music boxnya muncul lagi, sini juga 02:00:070 -
rest

01:55:784 - bagian ini mah ane nyerah cari pitchnya ahaha
wkwkwkwkw

udah gitu aja, gudluck