Tonight Alive - Little Lion Man [Osu|OsuMania] · forum

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-18T01:29:05+00:00

FailureAtOsu wrote:
o/
00:47:281 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - woah the diff spike this early in?!?? like seriously the only jump in the map lol this kiai is like the most intense part of the song that has consistent 1/2 rhythm tho

fser

Fser wrote:
[Fieri's Light Insane]
00:09:781 (2,3,1) - im not sure about maping the vocals it cud confuse some people :=\ reduced spacing so maybe that helps :d???
00:17:627 (1,2,3) - wtf is the logic behind this. originally 4 the vocal and guitar strum but i just simplified it ok
00:43:473 (1) - just make this a single circle? xd adds to buildup hold slider is like the best buildup and i cant make a map without having this blanket here 00:43:473 (1,1) - like this is my PATTERN man
00:56:858 (2) - this is nOT 2007 just make this 2 1/2 sliders. im gay
01:11:050 - theres drums here bro -_ - ya im not mapping everything in this section tho which is why 01:12:089 (1) - this goes over a clap (despite the slider tick kind of mapping it but drum sample sliderticks are inaudible so :d)
01:28:012 - unused green line? i was originally gonna be edgy and make a really slow slider, removed
01:35:396 (1,2,3) - just stack (1) and (2) on (3) \; i did something 4 u better
01:39:550 (2,3,1) - ^ reduced spacing here but honestly i think this fits it better for emphasis reasons
01:46:704 (2,3,4) - what the fuck ok i mapped this entire section when i was like rushing as fuc ok sim SORY
01:54:319 (3,4,1) - ^ IDK THIS IS JUST LIKE IDK MAN I DONT KNOW ABOUT THNIS this 1 is ok tho :d
01:56:396 (5,6,1) - jEUS removed 6 because im gay and gfvbn
01:56:858 - i still think there shud be a spinner here bcuz leaderboard reasons... when the other diffs add one i will tbh

ikaros

Ikaros wrote:
00:35:165 (1) - Seems to focus the guitar but starting a white tick earlier also makes it focus the vocals. this entire section is pretty wonky in terms of timing so i have no idea how to map anything here without it being like retardedly off timed

Everything else seems fine to me.

ty!!!
http://puu.sh/qFd3g/b2683ffe5e.osu

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2016-08-18T01:45:09+00:00

CptBlackBird wrote:
fat cat diff
00:03:319 (5,6,1) - this felt weird to play, probably because of the stronger vocals between 6 and 1 there's no vocal on 1 tho and spacing here is based on the vocals

00:29:627 (1,1,1) - I would flip this so its looking the other way, at first I felt the notes are gonna be on the left cuz that's the side the triangle is looking at i did it

01:30:319 (4,1) - I don't understand this jump cymbalcrash --> big sound --> big spacing

01:31:473 (4,1) - ^

sorry for being bad ok g

also fixed alheak thx

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... tra%5D.osu

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-08-18T14:34:29+00:00

Ikaros wrote:
00:04:012 (2) - sliderart matching to lyrics and rhythm. that's so cool :d thanks 8)
01:15:781 (1,2) - blanket plis. nope, that would need me to break DS in order to make it not look weird, and this map isn't about pretty blankets anyways

lowered slidertick-volumes n stuff

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193,333,75319,1,2,0:2:0:0:
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Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2016-08-19T14:29:45+00:00

puxtu was requested the mod.

[!]
01:05:627 (1,2,3,4)

01:08:165 (2) - Stack to 01:08:165 (3) 's slider end?

[To. Elvis]
Nerf OD 7.5 to 7

01:00:550 (3,4,5,6) - Ugly distance snap
01:04:069 (2) - Ctrl + G ?

[To. Fiery]
00:44:973 (2,3) - Unreadable snap?

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-20T01:57:25+00:00

S A V E R Y wrote:
puxtu was requested the mod.

[To. Fiery]
00:44:973 (2,3) - Unreadable snap? ? this should be ok as it is, i don't see anything terribly wrong with it and i do stacks like this later on in the song

AlisceaSparku

704 posts

Joined August 2013

AlisceaSparku 2016-08-20T17:44:39+00:00

i have been summoned

[MX]

00:08:165 (8165|2,8396|3,8396|2,8627|3) - imo i think this would be better if the double is evenly separated on each hand ( maybe it's a bit heavy just for me though but maybe it'll play better ). There are other parts like this also.
00:35:223 - maybe the guitar actually starts playing here? There are other parts like this also

00:50:973 (50973|0,50973|1,51031|2,51031|3,51089|0,51089|1,51204|2,51204|3,51319|0,51319|1,51435|0,51435|1,51550|3,51550|2,51665|3,51665|2) - ctrl+h? 1> is i think 00:50:973 - sounds exactly the same as 00:50:858 - and maybe its better when you jack it and 2> maybe the doubles starting from 00:51:319 - be a mirror of 00:47:627 -
01:19:242 (79242|2) - better to move at 4 so it can show that 01:19:242 - (with the long instrument sound xD) has more impact than only kick which is 01:19:473 -
01:43:473 - up until the end i think there is too much double for the left hand. maybe it's not a problem but maybe you can rearrange em a bit xD

[NM]

00:35:223 - maybe the guitar actually starts playing here? There are other parts like this also

(Copypaste xD)
00:47:627 - maybe http://puu.sh/qIaEX/3766400773.jpg ( looks weird ) or http://puu.sh/qIaHx/184e191cd2.jpg ( maybe hard ). or maybe like 00:51:319 - which is balanced from both sides
00:55:012 - ^
01:05:858 (65858|0) - more comfortable when at 2 imo and the note looks lonely D:
01:41:858 (101858|2) - to 1 so it looks like 01:41:858 - is louder than 01:42:204 - ( which is actually true since the first one has kick and second has none)
01:43:012 - maybe just remove a note, then http://puu.sh/qIb6k/41c29a4b34.jpg to make note count consistent
01:56:165 (116165|2,116281|3) - change column so the beat doesnt look like its decreasing/increasing in pitch
01:56:512 (116512|3,116627|2) - change column so it looks like its decreasing in pitch

sorry fam short mod map is very solid xD
good luck~ :3

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-20T17:47:39+00:00

>NM
smh tbh fam

AlisceaSparku

704 posts

Joined August 2013

AlisceaSparku 2016-08-20T17:55:34+00:00

i think bad mod
pls forgive

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

C00L 2016-08-20T19:35:52+00:00

Right

Check! - Means it's been checked and nothing wrong has been found
Please ignore my note/slider placememnt on the timeline, i do that to show make my point more clearer

[General]

Inconsistencies in Combo Colours -
pishi's Extra -
Combo1 : 17,166,255
Combo2 : 97,215,254
Combo3 : 254,88,158
Combo4 : 255,55,61

Rest of the diffs -
Combo1 : 17,254,176
Combo2 : 173,255,95
Combo3 : 255,88,100
Combo4 : 255,94,55

Since the BG is the same consider making this the same, since consistency ftw
Idk why, but the AR for N/A's Normal is just too big imo, since its <2* i would recommend changing it to 4, or 4,2. Since almost AR 5 is kinda a killer imo, taking the fact it's the easiest diff in the set
Not sure if I'm correct but +18 warning could go in the description since the word "fucked" appears in the second kiai. You'll probably laugh xd

[Timing]

~-20 feels more accurate to me, but that might just be me (64)

[Hitsounds]

(looking at Pishi's) - 00:06:781 (2) - you could put a whistle here to go with the nice pattern of whistles that went with 00:04:012 (2,2,2) -

[N/A's Normal]

00:03:089 (2,3) - this movemt feels kinda weird imo, it's really sharp, like everything goes in a sort of flowish pattern before this , everything is aranged so that it follows that like 00:00:089 (1,2) - .I would consider rotating some stuffs, since it's just before the break it woudn't really make a difference in terms of difficulty in re-arrangement, if you accept this then make the slider-end of 00:03:781 (1) - end at the beginning of 00:07:473 (1) - would be pretty cool i guess
00:11:165 (1) - comparing this to 00:03:781 (1) - is damn, the difference is so big :/ Consider making this some sort of slider art shape, unless you like it ofc, although leaving it like that ruins the visuals compared to the first slider imo
00:53:973 (2,3) - you could in actuall fact blanket these if you wished, would add some nice visuals
01:18:781 (2,1) - you could blanket this since the reverse arrow woudn't make a difference in terms of DS, either that or make the curve go the other way so that it sort of creates a somewhat circle with 01:17:627 (1) -
01:28:704 (1) - > hmm i don't understand why you decrease the DS in the more intense part

[Bonsai's Hard]

00:04:012 (2) - <3
00:17:627 (4,5) - please don't use double stacks on hards >_>, it's like something that i strugled with so much in insanes/even extras at some ranks back in the day, and holy it was so annoying, trust me here bonsai use a 1/4 slider here instead, it'll catch both of the same sounds and it will be soo much easier to play. All the beginners will thank you for this
00:19:012 - consider adding a break since there's no vocals only the guitar which could be ignored, also breaks are really good in easier diffs :^) and i understand the previous parts without breaks, but this is almost 4 measures of nothing :/
00:26:165 - here a break would be good too, here it would have been even better since there would have been a pause and a nice calm welcome into the pre-chorus part
00:29:627 (1,2,3) - > i strugle to understand why you would choose to map to the vocals here, since the guitar is 10x stronger, also the vocals fade away into the guitar. On sliders like these 00:34:935 (3) - it sounds sooo off, and weird to play, since there's a strong af guitar sound on the white tick. Ofc i understand that vocals don't appear later and you want to prioritize them here... please don't :^)

[Fiery's Light Insane]

00:13:936 (2,1) - you could fix this blanket here
00:32:858 (2) - you could actually increase the SV of this one since the vocals are somewhat intensifying more, would fit really good imo, 0,4 works great
00:34:935 - you could in actuall fact add a note here (stacked) to follow the 'line' vocal
00:36:550 (2) - same here with increasing SV ^^
00:57:089 (2) - you could ctrl + g this and place it at (for example) x:176 y:200 since then it will follow a pattern with 00:55:012 (1,2) - since they are anti-flow and they follow the same sounds as 00:56:858 (1,2) - (guitar) so this could work really nicely imo
01:02:396 (3) - i would NC this since for readability, but that's just my thing lo
01:04:935 (2) - hmm a 1/2 slider and a note on the white tick instead would work better than this 1/1 slider, would follow the drums really nicelly here
01:42:781 (1,1,1) - i don't really think this deserves a NC spam as such since players will realise /and or expect slower sliders since they were used a lot in the chorus, so this NC spam is really unnecessary imo, also this wouldn't cause slider breaks as such since they aren't that slow of a difference only 0.25

[Elvis' Insane]

00:25:012 (1,2) - this should get a lot more emphasis because of the vocals and the sounds are fairly similar to the previous patterns as well
00:26:165 (2,2) - you could blanket these rather than leaving a big slider like that without any point of being there, since imo everything should be placed with a reason and this right there doesn't have one imo, it looks to me as if it was randomly placed, although i know it wasn't that's just how i see it lo
00:44:396 (1,2) - ^
01:00:781 (5,6) - this weird 'drop' of notes plays horribly imo, try something like thisit's still a triangle pattern just plays much better, if you change this it will also follow a zig zag pattern with 01:00:550 (3,4,5,6) -
01:22:242 (1,2) - right so here you could ctrl +g both of these [url]to make them look like this[/url], this change will make a pattern with 01:21:781 (3,4,1,2) - since it'll be once flow 01:21:781 (3,4) - and one anti-flow 01:22:242 (1,2) - , and to finish it off 01:22:704 (1,2) - ctrl + g these as well so that they look like this this will finish the pattern off with another hitting flow (also adds a huge boost to emphasis on the vocals)
01:54:781 (1) - you could make this note blanket this 01:54:319 (4,5,6) - for a nicer cicular flow

[pishi your fat ecks dee]

damn the horrible joke genre reached a new highpoint thanks to me :^)

00:01:473 (5) - you could make this a ctrl +h copy of 00:01:012 (4) - aesthetics would be improved here in that way
00:29:627 (1) - > consider making these a little bit quieter since hearing the nice guitar/vocal sounds is much nicer than hearing annoying clicks imo

[Final Words]
Great song, Solid Diff, like really i enjoyed playing all of these
Good Luck from me!!

Last edited by C00L 2016-08-20T20:26:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-08-20T19:59:01+00:00

C00L wrote:
[Timing]
~-20 feels more accurate to me, but that might just be me (64) actually it seems to be slightly early almost everywhere lol, would do +4 xd
[Bonsai's Hard]
00:04:012 (2) - <3 ^_^
00:17:627 (4,5) - please don't use double stacks on hards >_>, it's like something that i strugled with so much in insanes/even extras at some ranks back in the day, and holy it was so annoying, trust me here bonsai use a 1/4 slider here instead, it'll catch both of the same sounds and it will be soo much easier to play. All the beginners will thank you for this while they appear later in the map too and are simply something a player should learn instead of mappers avoiding it, I see that it might be too intense for this calm part of the song, fixed ^^
00:19:012 - consider adding a break since there's no vocals only the guitar which could be ignored, also breaks are really good in easier diffs :^) and i understand the previous parts without breaks, but this is almost 4 measures of nothing :/ eh, it's either breaks everywhere or nowhere, making it inconsistent would be weird as there is nothing significant changing in the song
00:26:165 - here a break would be good too, here it would have been even better since there would have been a pause and a nice calm welcome into the pre-chorus part I don't really think that players already need breaks after 25 calm seconds ^^
00:29:627 (1,2,3) > i strugle to understand why you would choose to map to the vocals here, since the guitar is 10x stronger, also the vocals fade away into the guitar. On sliders like these 00:34:935 (3) - it sounds sooo off, and weird to play, since there's a strong af guitar sound on the white tick. Ofc i understand that vocals don't appear later and you want to prioritize them here... please don't :^) Well to me that's simply a matter of taste, I totally get your point but I just generally pay more attention to vocals than to instrumentals when listening to a song, so I also want to convey that in my maps, and they are also slightly more interesting than the guitar - I'll reconsider it some time, but I'm quite sure that I won't change my mind about this ^^

Will finish later if you see this, i'm dying for a shit
Enjoy, I really liked your mod as it was very well-reasoned (even though I denied most ^^), all the best to you!

wow puxtu didn't update my diff last time, r u d e

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341,111,79708,5,0,0:2:0:0:
260,170,79939,1,0,0:2:0:0:
260,170,80054,2,0,L|196:170,1,50,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
185,214,80285,2,0,L|280:243,1,100,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
307,286,80631,1,0,0:2:0:0:
390,230,80862,1,0,0:2:0:0:
375,131,81093,1,2,0:2:0:0:
487,90,81323,6,0,P|494:138|476:184,1,100,2|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
463,284,81785,1,2,0:2:0:0:
490,380,82016,1,2,0:2:0:0:
390,369,82246,1,2,0:2:0:0:
290,378,82477,1,2,0:2:0:0:
200,332,82708,1,2,0:2:0:0:
223,234,82939,1,2,0:2:0:0:
163,153,83169,6,0,P|127:126|70:122,1,100,2|2,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
89,221,83631,2,0,P|153:256|222:233,1,150,2|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
256,200,84093,2,0,L|363:196,1,100,2|2,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
452,172,84554,1,2,0:2:0:0:
488,76,84785,2,0,P|472:35|427:0,1,100,2|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
331,72,85246,5,2,0:2:0:0:
238,33,85477,1,0,0:2:0:0:
238,33,85593,2,0,L|170:29,1,50,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
168,75,85823,2,0,L|68:88,1,100,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
30,120,86169,1,0,0:2:0:0:
79,206,86400,1,0,0:2:0:0:
174,175,86631,1,0,0:2:0:0:
257,254,86862,6,0,L|387:264,3,115.000002193451,0|0|0|0,1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
235,29,88708,6,0,P|226:65|235:103,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
277,180,89169,2,0,P|284:216|276:252,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
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512,208,90093,1,0,0:2:0:0:
433,301,90323,6,0,L|337:297,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
271,270,90785,1,8,0:2:0:0:
271,270,90900,1,8,0:2:0:0:
271,270,91016,1,0,0:2:0:0:
225,347,91246,1,0,0:2:0:0:
132,264,91477,2,0,P|124:227|132:191,1,75.0000028610231,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
176,112,91939,1,0,0:2:0:0:
135,32,92169,1,0,0:2:0:0:
270,26,92400,6,0,P|306:18|342:26,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
381,108,92862,2,0,P|344:115|308:107,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
367,219,93323,2,0,L|380:318,1,75.0000028610231,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
389,382,93785,1,0,0:2:0:0:
282,326,94016,6,0,L|186:322,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
119,346,94478,1,0,0:2:0:0:
119,346,94593,1,0,0:2:0:0:
119,346,94709,1,0,0:2:0:0:
109,256,94939,1,0,0:2:0:0:
230,219,95169,2,0,P|266:226|302:218,1,75.0000028610231,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
372,92,95631,2,0,L|359:127,1,37.5000014305115,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
382,165,95862,1,0,0:2:0:0:
382,165,95977,1,0,0:2:0:0:
382,165,96093,6,0,P|418:156|454:164,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
468,291,96554,1,0,0:2:0:0:
340,281,96785,2,0,L|247:298,1,75.0000028610231,0|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
124,339,97246,2,0,L|197:352,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
168,227,97708,1,0,0:2:0:0:
255,152,97939,6,0,P|264:188|256:224,1,75.0000028610231,0|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
252,265,98285,1,8,0:2:0:0:
252,265,98400,1,0,0:2:0:0:
323,320,98631,1,0,0:2:0:0:
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421,151,99093,2,0,P|412:99|388:64,1,75.0000028610231,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
277,113,99554,1,8,0:2:0:0:
277,113,99669,1,8,0:2:0:0:
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333,202,100246,1,8,0:2:0:0:
333,202,100477,1,8,0:2:0:0:
211,254,100708,1,0,0:2:0:0:
291,293,100939,1,0,0:2:0:0:
243,142,101169,2,0,P|196:118|154:117,1,75.0000028610231,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
84,126,101631,1,0,0:2:0:0:
52,240,101862,5,8,0:2:0:0:
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163,252,102323,1,0,0:2:0:0:
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353,328,102785,1,8,0:2:0:0:
332,350,102900,1,8,0:2:0:0:
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230,366,103246,2,0,L|186:311,1,37.5000014305115,8|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
158,268,103477,6,0,L|262:259,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
342,121,103939,2,0,L|330:207,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
190,132,104400,2,0,L|90:120,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
204,226,104862,1,8,0:2:0:0:
306,130,105093,1,0,0:2:0:0:
309,279,105323,6,0,L|301:363,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
416,257,105785,2,0,L|495:218,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
481,369,106246,2,0,L|381:359,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
344,215,106708,1,8,0:2:0:0:
405,74,106939,1,0,0:2:0:0:
256,109,107169,6,0,P|218:106|174:123,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
96,265,107631,2,0,P|129:280|180:285,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
79,141,108093,2,0,P|66:105|33:74,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
23,229,108554,1,8,0:2:0:0:
153,176,108785,1,0,0:2:0:0:
287,249,109016,6,0,P|253:264|205:267,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
261,124,109477,2,0,P|264:86|286:43,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
385,161,109939,2,0,P|415:182|441:223,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
292,210,110400,1,8,0:2:0:0:
238,325,110631,1,0,0:2:0:0:
146,202,110862,6,0,P|112:186|64:184,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
173,57,111323,1,8,0:2:0:0:
293,151,111554,2,0,L|382:156,1,85.0000016212464,0|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
448,305,112016,2,0,L|491:223,1,85.0000016212464,0|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
343,311,112477,1,0,0:2:0:0:
211,272,112708,6,0,P|168:273|130:290,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
98,330,113054,1,0,0:2:0:0:
98,330,113169,2,0,L|81:230,1,85.0000016212464,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
183,94,113631,2,0,L|175:160,1,42.5000008106232,8|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
172,187,113862,1,0,0:2:0:0:
295,276,114093,1,8,0:2:0:0:
444,250,114323,1,8,0:2:0:0:
439,283,114439,1,8,0:2:0:0:
437,316,114554,6,0,P|412:281|402:240,1,85.0000016212464,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
437,92,115016,1,8,0:2:0:0:
409,72,115131,1,8,0:2:0:0:
381,51,115246,2,0,L|304:44,1,42.5000008106232,8|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
262,35,115477,2,8,L|268:77,3,42.5000008106232,8|8|8|8,0:2|0:2|0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
201,113,115939,2,0,L|158:117,1,42.5000008106232,8|8,0:2|0:2,0:2:0:0:
87,132,116169,1,8,0:2:0:0:
87,132,116285,1,8,0:2:0:0:
87,132,116400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,251,116631,5,4,0:2:0:0:
279,165,116862,2,0,P|443:248|284:342,1,450,4|0,0:2|0:2,2:2:0:0:

(just mentioning again that I think +4 would be good for the timing lol)

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

C00L 2016-08-20T20:27:58+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
I really liked your mod as it was very well-reasoned (even though I denied most ^^), all the best to you!

Thank you Bonsai means a lot!! never heard this from a BN himself that i reason everything well

Thanks you again, all the best to you too!!

And in terms of timing, i checked agian (the first time i only checked like the first 2 seconds of the map) and you are correct everything does feel a bit late later on in the song, but i think ~10 it's acceptable or something so i guess it can stay or ~+6 i would give it

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-20T22:07:54+00:00

Do I really need to add 18+ warning on the description lol. Doesn't really feel necessary for me xd

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-20T22:30:33+00:00

cool

C00L wrote:
[Fiery's Light Insane]
00:13:936 (2,1) - you could fix this blanket here fuck
00:32:858 (2) - you could actually increase the SV of this one since the vocals are somewhat intensifying more, would fit really good imo, 0,4 works great decided to make this a stack since triangle pattern
00:34:935 - you could in actuall fact add a note here (stacked) to follow the 'line' vocal dont wanna do this since it doesnt really fit the pattern im going for
00:36:550 (2) - same here with increasing SV ^^ same change applied
00:57:089 (2) - you could ctrl + g this and place it at (for example) x:176 y:200 since then it will follow a pattern with 00:55:012 (1,2) - since they are anti-flow and they follow the same sounds as 00:56:858 (1,2) - (guitar) so this could work really nicely imo i can def see where you're coming from but i kind of want to keep it this way mainly for playability reasons, idk, ill consider it
01:02:396 (3) - i would NC this since for readability, but that's just my thing lo if im bugged about this enough ill probably adjust the stack so its more readable but i think its ok
01:04:935 (2) - hmm a 1/2 slider and a note on the white tick instead would work better than this 1/1 slider, would follow the drums really nicelly here the change in guitar pitch is more noticeable here imo
01:42:781 (1,1,1) - i don't really think this deserves a NC spam as such since players will realise /and or expect slower sliders since they were used a lot in the chorus, so this NC spam is really unnecessary imo, also this wouldn't cause slider breaks as such since they aren't that slow of a difference only 0.25 i just personally nc every sv change, its an ocd habit of mine. as it is i don't think its bad :p

ty!
also did irc modding with idke so we changed some patterns and stuff from that, can post irc log if he wants kds but he said he didnt so h
http://puu.sh/qIrYR/39b26604c9.osu

puxtu wrote:
Do I really need to add 18+ warning on the description lol. Doesn't really feel necessary for me xd

blood too nsfw

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2016-08-20T23:01:40+00:00

insert pink

Ringating

717 posts

Joined August 2013

Ringating 2016-08-21T07:21:55+00:00

maybe use this, cropped out the irrelevant text and imo it frames a bit better in the menu
also removed bottom row of black pixels...
no kds

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-21T11:38:40+00:00

That is excellent. Thx bro

@all: and I also changed the offset so your snapping might be screwed now xd

NucleaRaven

201 posts

Joined March 2015

NucleaRaven 2016-08-22T14:15:40+00:00

hi

[Elvis' Insane]

00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped ?
01:47:400 (7) - i think this next group of triples starting from here should be slightly more spaced than the ones in the previous section - and you could do the same from 01:51:093 (2) - here as well.

fun map!!!

[pishi's Extra]

00:09:323 (1,2,3,4) - distance b/n 1 and 2 is =/= to 3 and 4 im pre sure. Change maybe?
01:10:131 (6) - whenever i played this, i always misaimed this note - moving to around x:202|y:215 would fix that, but you may want to keep the straight line, which is also fine.
01:11:631 (3) - is this perfect triangle? my senses tell me this should be moved 1px right - i think anyway.
01:46:708 (3,4) - swap the positions of these? i think it better reflects the intensity change of the vocals. and it doesnt ruin aesthetics or flow imo. up to you tho ofc )

good map :O
good set :O
good luck :O

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2016-08-22T14:56:08+00:00

C00L wrote:
[N/A's Normal]
00:03:089 (2,3) - this movemt feels kinda weird imo, it's really sharp, like everything goes in a sort of flowish pattern before this , everything is aranged so that it follows that like 00:00:089 (1,2) - .I would consider rotating some stuffs, since it's just before the break it woudn't really make a difference in terms of difficulty in re-arrangement, if you accept this then make the slider-end of 00:03:781 (1) - end at the beginning of 00:07:473 (1) - would be pretty cool i guess that's actually not enough for me to change tbh
00:11:165 (1) - comparing this to 00:03:781 (1) - is damn, the difference is so big :/ Consider making this some sort of slider art shape, unless you like it ofc, although leaving it like that ruins the visuals compared to the first slider imo i was hoping that my sliders can stop being crowded together so i made a vertical thingy, but i'm wondering why didn't you point 00:25:939 (1) - out
00:53:973 (2,3) - you could in actuall fact blanket these if you wished, would add some nice visuals not a fan of blanketing
01:18:781 (2,1) - you could blanket this since the reverse arrow woudn't make a difference in terms of DS, either that or make the curve go the other way so that it sort of creates a somewhat circle with 01:17:627 (1) - same above
01:28:704 (1) - > hmm i don't understand why you decrease the DS in the more intense part let's say, there's a huge gap, and the gap is calmer than its contexts.

http://puu.sh/qKks3/95c4637bca.rar

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

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Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-22T21:31:40+00:00

nice negative bpm

BOUYAAA

396 posts

Joined July 2010

BOUYAAA 2016-08-23T04:04:18+00:00

No one saw anything 👀

Nerova :

00:00:093 (1) - unsnapped

I kind of have a hard time to figure out what you're following wityh those sliders : 00:45:323 (3) - 00:47:169 (2) - 00:52:708 (2) - etc they kind of start on nothing, they skip a prominent beat you seem to map pretty consistently otherwise and they end on a strong beat

Diff that lacks horizontal and vertical sliders :

00:00:093 (1) - are you mapping for the next bn test? (~~green lines are unsnapped, they seem to cause issues in several places like this one~~ actually it's not the green line it's the timing it seems)

00:25:708 (1) - in the previous pattern you put a slider (00:25:708 (1) - ) to go with the end of the vocals so it feels kinda empty when on the section right after this one you decide to not do it 00:25:708 (1) - . wouldn't you prefer to have something with a circle or a 1/2 slider here 00:25:708 - and a slider here 00:25:708 - so that the same thing is expressed the same way? Also I'm wondering why you'd nc this 00:25:708 (1) - and not this 00:18:785 (6) -

00:31:477 (3,1) - imo it's not clear enough that this is 1/4. Spacing is pretty much the same as 1/2 just after too

00:37:939 (2) - aspire v3 (~~probably due to green lines too~~ not rly)

00:39:785 (4,5) - looks messy, i'd suggest to either stack more or space more, slightly touching is ew

00:42:093 (1,2,3) - would probably look a bit better if you used 120 degree rotations

01:02:400 - did you try making these a triple?

01:45:785 (2,3) - symmetry just like you did here 01:43:477 (1,3) - skldjfhskdjfhdjd

prepare the red crayons

Fire

00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped and causes issues

01:12:093 (1) - i don't really get why you map that with a 1/1 slider when you never do it before. You're breaking rythm consistency by not mapping the snare 01:12:323 -

01:16:593 (4,1) - would be cool if you'd differentiate your 1/1 a bit better from 1/2

01:18:208 (3) - the way you miss the snare in the middle is pretty ew too cuz everywhere else it is mapped

Elvis & pishi :

00:00:089 (1) - timing was modified or something so it might do weird stuff like this to your map

No really gonna mod those i need sleep, i'm assuming they're good anyways

Gl

Last edited by BOUYAAA 2016-08-23T16:11:22+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

puxtu

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Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-23T11:54:10+00:00

puxtu in the previous page wrote:
@all: and I also changed the offset so your snapping might be screwed now xd

My b

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-08-23T15:48:15+00:00

[pishi's Extra]

00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped
00:17:631 (1,2,3) - switching from guitar to vocal seems a bit to sudden here, is a bit awkward to play, may just want to stay with the guitar for consistent
01:05:631 (1,2,3) - i would say stack them all is better cuz the 1/2 spacing at this part is inconsistent, or make the spacing 01:05:631 (1,2,3) - the same as 01:06:093 (1,2,3) - cuz the drum sound is actually quite intense
01:09:323 (1,2,3) - spacing 1>2 should be bigger then 2>3 cuz the snare sound was at 2 not 3 lol, sth like 01:09:785 (4,5,6) - this
01:26:862 (1,2,3,4) - make the spacing much larger here makes more sense imo, cuz the drum sound is intense and the spacing is similar to 1/2 so it might cause misread
01:56:400 (1,2) - might cause misread either cuz the spacing is similar to 1/4 lol, increased the spacing makes more sense

[Elvis' Insane]

00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped
00:42:554 (1,2,3,4) - hmm why dont just keep increased the spacing lol, stack here isnt a good choice imo cuz is kinda inconsistent to me
00:47:631 (1,2,3,4) - 00:55:016 (1,2,3,4) - dont stack at the intense drum sound ... to me it makes no sense tho xd
00:55:016 (1,2,1) - blanket can be improved
01:13:939 (1) - this should get more emphasized cuz the cymbol sound
01:40:708 (1,2) - i would say dont stack here, cuz you used the same usage at 01:41:862 (2,3,4,5) - either, but the gap is different, one is 1/1 and others is 1/2, so players might seen 01:41:862 (2,3,4,5) - as a 1/1 either cuz what you did at 01:40:708 (1,2) -
01:43:477 - from this part can you just NC on the long white tick lol? some NCs makes no sense =w=

Nerova Riuz GX

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Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2016-08-23T16:21:19+00:00

basically since he have his offset on timing line changed, lots of sliders screwed up (but not to me cuz i use 1.0x all the way down)

BOUYAAA wrote:
Nerova :

00:00:093 (1) - unsnapped k

I kind of have a hard time to figure out what you're following wityh those sliders : 00:45:323 (3) - 00:47:169 (2) - 00:52:708 (2) - etc they kind of start on nothing, they skip a prominent beat you seem to map pretty consistently otherwise and they land on a strong beat
I was going for the hihats but now that seems a little bit hard to notice. BUT, after thinking for a while I decided to keep them. for the difficulty's sake I can't put that much 1/2s, and I hope the note density can be higher so it will be easy to feel the part is dense.
first, under the concept, it's kinda hard to make 00:45:439 - followed (yes you can just make the previous slider reverse, but that will create a bigger 3/2 gap after that).
second, I assume that places like 00:45:323 - is necessary to link up from 1/2 to 1/1 (e.g. from 00:44:400 (1,2) - to 00:46:016 (4) - ).
third, I'm trying to keep the density on 00:45:323 (3,4) - a little bit lower than 00:49:016 (3,4) - (the hell should i explain that, but I know you can understand what I mean) so i took 1/1 long sliders. That's the reason why I didn't change.

Also, i adjusted both HP and AR. they should be balanced now.

@puxtu: http://puu.sh/qLBul/d68a8c9649.rar

Vivyanne

1,215 posts

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-08-23T20:16:23+00:00

tonight alive = <3

[pishi]
00:46:362 (2) - i personally prefer this slider ctrl+h'd because you catch the circular movement better this way imo
01:01:477 (3,4,5) - i feel like spacing these out would be more funn
01:17:054 (3,4) - maybe have some bigger spacing as the guitar pitch is like way higher

wow solidaf

[elvis]
00:07:016 (3,4) - could u mayb make this similar to 00:06:554 (1,2) - would look more logical
00:07:477 (1) - no sv change here like in the beginning? ;w;
00:49:477 (3) - i feel like ctrl+g plays better here, ofc change spacing accordingly ;x
01:13:016 (1) - would be cool to have sv change here so you have more emphasis on the sound this slider is mapped to
01:49:246 (4) - maybe NC this to indicate the start of a streamm

cool map ya

[fiery]
unsnapped objects: 00:00:089 (1) - 01:14:169 (2) - fix pls
00:08:400 (3) - i think ctrl+g would be cooler here because it then connects like way better to the next upcoming notesss
00:31:477 (1) - could u pls shorten this slider because imo 00:32:631 - has to be clickable if ur aim is the vocals
00:35:169 (1) - same scenario :>
00:50:862 (1) - ctrl+g this plspls its a really awkward connection after 00:50:631 (3,4) -

wow yess

[bonsai]
FIX UR SNAPPINGS LIKE HOLY

00:00:544 - wh no note here r u drunk?
00:25:708 (1) - as you didnt seem to do it with 00:18:785 (6) - please remove NC for consistency
00:37:939 (2,3) - this is a joke right .... y the timing like this y u do dis aa a aa
01:26:862 (1) - mind giving this an interesting structure because rn its zzzz
01:31:246 (5,6) - why this spacing there is literally nothing to be emphasises lo
01:43:016 (7,8) - maybe space these out a bit more they r p hard to read according to people who can just play these kind of mapszz (yes i asked around with some highranked players)

apart from the snapped items fine i guess
where are my slidershapes tho /me runs

[na]
i feel like ar4,5 suits the map better but that just me

00:33:323 (2,3) - dont u think these should be NCd? i know about the followpoint thing but pls the timing gap is so big man ;w;
01:02:862 (1,2) - smh could u align these pls this legit triggers me lo

i wish i could map normals like this

i cant mod mania so wont do it

sexy mapset, ill be waiting for the qual~

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-08-23T21:42:22+00:00

help, my map got fucked up by puxtu while I'm not at home for a week and now everybody's shouting at me xdd

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-23T22:23:45+00:00

Bonsai is such a bully. I was trying to help okay u.u

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2016-08-24T19:00:22+00:00

SPOILER

savery
!
01:05:627 (1,2,3,4) rather have it climax with spacing later than do that lol

01:08:165 (2) - Stack to 01:08:165 (3) 's slider end? ovelrap asethetic tho

c00l

Hitsounds

(looking at pishi's) - 00:06:781 (2) - you could put a whistle here to go with the nice pattern of whistles that went with 00:04:012 (2,2,2) - sort of have those hitsounds arranged according to how the things are mapped so one wouldnt fit there

pishi your fat ecks dee

damn the horrible joke genre reached a new highpoint thanks to me :^) G
00:01:473 (5) - you could make this a ctrl +h copy of 00:01:012 (4) - aesthetics would be improved here in that way like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5926787
00:29:627 (1) - > consider making these a little bit quieter since hearing the nice guitar/vocal sounds is much nicer than hearing annoying clicks imo wouldnt reflect the song

nuclearaven

pishi's Extra

00:09:323 (1,2,3,4) - distance b/n 1 and 2 is =/= to 3 and 4 im pre sure. Change maybe? lol barely ya
01:10:131 (6) - whenever i played this, i always misaimed this note - moving to around x:202|y:215 would fix that, but you may want to keep the straight line, which is also fine. looks cool
01:11:631 (3) - is this perfect triangle? my senses tell me this should be moved 1px right - i think anyway. its copy pasted idk
01:46:708 (3,4) - swap the positions of these? i think it better reflects the intensity change of the vocals. and it doesnt ruin aesthetics or flow imo. up to you tho ofc

) i like same importance for all of them lol

rabbit

pishi's Extra
00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped .
00:17:631 (1,2,3) - switching from guitar to vocal seems a bit to sudden here, is a bit awkward to play, may just want to stay with the guitar for consistent vocals were all on white ticks before too tho
01:05:631 (1,2,3) - i would say stack them all is better cuz the 1/2 spacing at this part is inconsistent, or make the spacing 01:05:631 (1,2,3) - the same as 01:06:093 (1,2,3) - cuz the drum sound is actually quite intense spacing changes to show its leading into big noise tho not focused on each drum sound lol
01:09:323 (1,2,3) - spacing 1>2 should be bigger then 2>3 cuz the snare sound was at 2 not 3 lol, sth like 01:09:785 (4,5,6) - this 3 has the vocal so it's got the sapce
01:26:862 (1,2,3,4) - make the spacing much larger here makes more sense imo, cuz the drum sound is intense and the spacing is similar to 1/2 so it might cause misread
01:56:400 (1,2) - might cause misread either cuz the spacing is similar to 1/4 lol, increased the spacing makes more sense really dont think either of these would cause misreads

hi tec

pishi
00:46:362 (2) - i personally prefer this slider ctrl+h'd because you catch the circular movement better this way imo continuing same circular motion as before is counter goal tho
01:01:477 (3,4,5) - i feel like spacing these out would be more funn c a l m tho
01:17:054 (3,4) - maybe have some bigger spacing as the guitar pitch is like way higher not using highly spaced circles when song is this calm g

tha nk!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... tra%5D.osu

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Side 2016-08-25T20:21:36+00:00

Raging indonesian lion tbh

[N/A]

wtf man

00:59:169 (1) - TIL how to make better wavy sliders

01:28:708 (1) - This slider sucks with a repeat specifically this part cuz at least from when I watch my nooby irl friends play these kinda sliders they always get confused by it lul. Get rid of this point and make it that kinda slider. Yes even if it's longer in the end because the little zig zag curve goes with the drums.

01:39:323 - A note here could be cool somehow but not needed I guess

01:43:477 (1,2,3) - Triggered as fuk by that finish custom

[Tatsu]

o

[Bonzi]

damn it puxtu

00:01:939 (1,2) - This kinda sucks yo. 00:01:016 (3) - Copy this shape and rotate it slightly to keep 1.0x spacing. Looks better

00:04:016 (2) - lul

00:09:785 (2) - Make this a better curvy slider or uh...do another shape yeah do that instead.

00:15:785 (3) - You can also make this a repeat. Imo it's a bit better cuz of how she sings those 3 segments sound more tied together. Spacing is also similar.

00:31:477 (3,1) - 00:35:169 (3,1) - kek (snap them to the red tick at most

00:55:477 (1,2,3) - That's a pain to play tbh. Change 1 and 2 to a slider it plays much better for this diff.

[Fireman]

00:00:089 (1) - wtf...oh...

00:08:400 (3,4) - I'd say another repeat is better than that jump to (4). No reason to emphasize that jump when there's nothing in the music that does it. Besides you've been doing 2x repeats up until here so it's not like its unexpected.

00:33:323 (1,2) - I liked 00:29:631 (1,2) - better than the repeat since then the slider heads emphasize the guitar chords but this doesn't...Change it to that it's better.

00:44:746 (2,3) - Stack this. Makes it more readable. Applies for the other one at 00:47:400 (3,1) - and since it's a pause it makes more sense to stack em like you did at 01:02:169 (2,3) - and a few other places.

01:09:323 (1,2) - This doesn't really work as well as it does here 01:05:631 (1,2) - at least imo. I guess it's fine but meh.

01:13:939 (1,3) - Avoid doing this whenever possible. The lingering note of (1) fading away is still active while (3) is up so the reverse arrow isn't very visible and usually means miss. TBH I'd suggest changing 01:13:939 (1,2,3) - altogether to a pattern more like this but as long as it avoids that stack from before it's fine.

01:21:093 (4,1) - Just stack it's readable and distinguishable.

01:39:554 (2,3,1) - While I think this is cool it's probably not the right difficulty to do this unfortunately.

01:54:323 (3,4,1) - Same. A lot of it comes down to the bpm as well so don't do this in this diff.

[Pepsi]

00:29:631 - It's fine the way you did it but you could also do like a slight offstack on the 3 notes (maybe going downward) to compliment the guitar.

00:40:477 (1) - x_x start with the guitar this technically follows nothing and if it's the vocals then it's weird af considering the parts before.

01:43:477 - AAAAAAAAAAAAAA just use the default soft/normal finish it's perfect for this song and this ones disgusting af ;A;A;A;A;A;A;A;A; (tell puxtu he sucks)

no real issues

[pisher frice]

00:25:016 (4) - Missing drum sample on slider head

00:29:631 (1,1,1) - default soft finishes would be sick af for these and the others just saying (also tell puxtu he sucks)

00:47:400 (4,1) - you MONSTER!!!111

00:48:093 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - n1c3 (saw this in your julio thing too)

01:05:631 (1) - 01:06:093 (1,2) - add soft finishes to these (trust)

01:29:169 (2) - Remove finish from this one it sucks. If you wanna keep a sound here then change it to like a whistle or something. Do the same for the others like this etc.

01:31:016 (3) - Same for these except don't add any hitsounds.

[HD]

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

PUXTU YOUR HITSOUNDS SAMPLES SUCK >:V

00:29:400 (29400|0) - This is okay but it could also be nice at 2 cuz then 00:29:169 (29169|0,29400|0,29631|2) - would go like 1 2 3 and it plays p nice :v

00:29:631 - Add one note next to all the LNs like this and this and this etc. cuz guitar

01:13:939 - 01:26:862 - So starting in this section there's like this little melody the lead guitar plays like 01:14:169 - 01:14:400 - 01:14:516 - 01:14:746 - 01:14:746 - 01:15:323 - 01:15:554 - that kinda rhythm the guitar plays. It would be really cool and also add variety if you had the doubles here instead.

01:26:862 (86862|1,86862|0,87093|1,87093|0,87323|2,87323|3,87554|3,87554|2) - WHY ARENT THESE TRIPPLES??????? triples are awesome!!!! Besides you use them later like 01:28:708 (88708|3,88708|2,88708|0) - 01:29:631 (89631|0,89631|3,89631|2) - etc

01:56:862 (116862|3,116862|2,116862|0) - Be edgy and make these LNS :^)

[MX]

00:00:093 - 00:29:631 - I like how you mapped the intro in this diff more than in the HD tbh

00:29:631 - 00:40:708 - PUXTU DO THIS PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE idk how but do THIS like uh.....trills? is that what is called? to follow the guitar cord so yo u do something like this but bette. plzplzplz do that somehow fuuuuuuck I wanna play that like a guitar duuuuuuuude

00:42:093 - 00:43:246 - Make these all doubles cuz guitar gets more intense and plays power chords

01:13:939 - 01:26:862 - If you didn't do this in the HD plz do that here what I mentioned in the HD ;-;

01:56:862 - EDGY LNSSSSSS

Memes

Good luck!

Edit cuz I forgot to mention this on all diffs but PUXTU YOU SUCK FIX THIS!!!!1

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-26T01:35:15+00:00

Side wrote:
[HD]

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

PUXTU YOUR HITSOUNDS SAMPLES SUCK >:V dude thx

00:29:400 (29400|0) - This is okay but it could also be nice at 2 cuz then 00:29:169 (29169|0,29400|0,29631|2) - would go like 1 2 3 and it plays p nice :v it will break the 11 22 pattern but ok lol

00:29:631 - Add one note next to all the LNs like this and this and this etc. cuz guitar kdad

01:13:939 - 01:26:862 - So starting in this section there's like this little melody the lead guitar plays like 01:14:169 - 01:14:400 - 01:14:516 - 01:14:746 - 01:14:746 - 01:15:323 - 01:15:554 - that kinda rhythm the guitar plays. It would be really cool and also add variety if you had the doubles here instead. double is love even though it hurts a bit in 260bpm but it is love!1!!

01:26:862 (86862|1,86862|0,87093|1,87093|0,87323|2,87323|3,87554|3,87554|2) - WHY ARENT THESE TRIPPLES??????? triples are awesome!!!! Besides you use them later like 01:28:708 (88708|3,88708|2,88708|0) - 01:29:631 (89631|0,89631|3,89631|2) - etc tripled

01:56:862 (116862|3,116862|2,116862|0) - Be edgy and make these LNS :^) holding note is gay :&)

[MX]

00:00:093 - 00:29:631 - I like how you mapped the intro in this diff more than in the HD tbh nigga you want to emphasis the vocal or what

00:29:631 - 00:40:708 - PUXTU DO THIS PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE idk how but do THIS like uh.....trills? is that what is called? to follow the guitar cord so yo u do something like this but bette. plzplzplz do that somehow fuuuuuuck I wanna play that like a guitar duuuuuuuude trill is 121212 pattern lmao. So you want me to add grace here for the guitar? i guess i can do that but it wont easy to make xd

00:42:093 - 00:43:246 - Make these all doubles cuz guitar gets more intense and plays power chords k

01:13:939 - 01:26:862 - If you didn't do this in the HD plz do that here what I mentioned in the HD ;-; i did in hd

01:56:862 - EDGY LNSSSSSS kys

Memes i agree

Good luck!

Edit cuz I forgot to mention this on all diffs but PUXTU YOU SUCK FIX THIS!!!!1 dont make me do this idk any std shit smh

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-26T02:58:41+00:00

mods

HighTec wrote:
[fiery]
unsnapped objects: 00:00:089 (1) - 01:14:169 (2) - fix pls I
00:08:400 (3) - i think ctrl+g would be cooler here because it then connects like way better to the next upcoming notesss ya ur rwite
00:31:477 (1) - could u pls shorten this slider because imo 00:32:631 - has to be clickable if ur aim is the vocals i just made the repeat slider tgb
00:35:169 (1) - same scenario :> d
00:50:862 (1) - ctrl+g this plspls its a really awkward connection after 00:50:631 (3,4) - g

wow yess

BOUYAAA wrote:
No one saw anything 👀

Fire
00:00:089 (1) - unsnapped and causes issues Hate

01:12:093 (1) - i don't really get why you map that with a 1/1 slider when you never do it before. You're breaking rythm consistency by not mapping the snare 01:12:323 - my brain at 9 pm wanted to map the suave guitar sound here but im retarded fixed

01:16:593 (4,1) - would be cool if you'd differentiate your 1/1 a bit better from 1/2 pattern change

01:18:208 (3) - the way you miss the snare in the middle is pretty ew too cuz everywhere else it is mapped this 1 i have no idea how to fix without the entire pattern feeling like shit but u did make me realize how fucking atrocious this section is so im prob remapping later

Side wrote:
Raging indonesian lion tbh

[Fireman]

00:00:089 (1) - wtf...oh... Puxtu

00:08:400 (3,4) - I'd say another repeat is better than that jump to (4). No reason to emphasize that jump when there's nothing in the music that does it. Besides you've been doing 2x repeats up until here so it's not like its unexpected. kind of indirectly reduced the jump from the previous mod so this should be kind of ok better now

00:33:323 (1,2) - I liked 00:29:631 (1,2) - better than the repeat since then the slider heads emphasize the guitar chords but this doesn't...Change it to that it's better. k

00:44:746 (2,3) - Stack this. Makes it more readable. Applies for the other one at 00:47:400 (3,1) - and since it's a pause it makes more sense to stack em like you did at 01:02:169 (2,3) - and a few other places. ok

01:09:323 (1,2) - This doesn't really work as well as it does here 01:05:631 (1,2) - at least imo. I guess it's fine but meh. i don't really know how else to follow the rhythm here

01:13:939 (1,3) - Avoid doing this whenever possible. The lingering note of (1) fading away is still active while (3) is up so the reverse arrow isn't very visible and usually means miss. TBH I'd suggest changing 01:13:939 (1,2,3) - altogether to a pattern more like this but as long as it avoids that stack from before it's fine. changed pattern in previous mod

01:21:093 (4,1) - Just stack it's readable and distinguishable. d

01:39:554 (2,3,1) - While I think this is cool it's probably not the right difficulty to do this unfortunately. fuk

01:54:323 (3,4,1) - Same. A lot of it comes down to the bpm as well so don't do this in this diff. ok changed these

fuck me i should remap some parts of this it reeks of rushing
http://puu.sh/qOE85/88d4034f60.osu

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2016-08-26T09:29:57+00:00

Side wrote:
[N/A]

wtf man ay

00:59:169 (1) - TIL how to make better wavy sliders ur still too young

01:28:708 (1) - This slider sucks with a repeat specifically this part cuz at least from when I watch my nooby irl friends play these kinda sliders they always get confused by it lul. Get rid of this point and make it that kinda slider. Yes even if it's longer in the end because the little zig zag curve goes with the drums. wew

01:39:323 - A note here could be cool somehow but not needed I guess NO

01:43:477 (1,2,3) - Triggered as fuk by that finish custom wew

http://puu.sh/qOU0p/2c0290235f.rar

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-08-26T17:39:22+00:00

oke I'm back

mod-replies in here (thx @ everybody)

BOUYAAA wrote:
Diff that lacks horizontal and vertical sliders : fixed

00:00:093 (1) - are you mapping for the next bn test? (~~green lines are unsnapped, they seem to cause issues in several places like this one~~ actually it's not the green line it's the timing it seems) #blamepuxtu2016, greenlines had to be moved

00:25:708 (1) - in the previous pattern you put a slider (00:25:708 (1) - ) to go with the end of the vocals so it feels kinda empty when on the section right after this one you decide to not do it 00:25:708 (1) - . wouldn't you prefer to have something with a circle or a 1/2 slider here 00:25:708 - and a slider here 00:25:708 - so that the same thing is expressed the same way? Also I'm wondering why you'd nc this 00:25:708 (1) - and not this 00:18:785 (6) - fixed mapping vocals by letting it reverse since everything else would be kinda weird; removed that previous NC bc I dislike how it seperates single sentences which is why I didn't do it at the firstone but for some reason still did at the second one lol

00:31:477 (3,1) - imo it's not clear enough that this is 1/4. Spacing is pretty much the same as 1/2 just after too It actually is 1/2 I just fucked up this and other sliders while experimenting after the previous mod and forgot to revert that fuck lol

00:37:939 (2) - aspire v3 (~~probably due to green lines too~~ not rly) ye that's another of those lol

00:39:785 (4,5) - looks messy, i'd suggest to either stack more or space more, slightly touching is ew yep this was a slider before I experimented aa

00:42:093 (1,2,3) - would probably look a bit better if you used 120 degree rotations no I want it to look wild bc I'm a bad boy B^)

01:02:400 - did you try making these a triple? nah that's kinda too much

01:45:785 (2,3) - symmetry just like you did here 01:43:477 (1,3) - skldjfhskdjfhdjd uhm I tried

prepare the red crayons hello bouya my old friend, this might've looked like I accepted a lot but really that's just bc I and/or puxtu fucked up a lot, anyways, I'm now going to write a lot of nonsense in red to balance things and bc you called for it so thank yourself! ok so where do I start? I actually don't know, I've thought about writing where I've been for the few days but then I realized that nobody wants to know that so that would be kinda sad, so I just started writing my thoughts on this and that's kinda what I am doing rn too, it's kinda meta I know that's bc I am so interlegant and my brain is doing overtime permanently so actually I can't keep up writing what I think, actually this isn't at all what I think, as a matter of fact I think my last pooping-session was pretty nice so there you go

HighTec wrote:
[bonsai]
FIX UR SNAPPINGS LIKE HOLY help

00:00:544 - wh no note here r u drunk? no, puxtu was drunk
00:25:708 (1) - as you didnt seem to do it with 00:18:785 (6) - please remove NC for consistency done with bouya's mod yes
00:37:939 (2,3) - this is a joke right .... y the timing like this y u do dis aa a aa y puxtu do dis aa a aa A!
01:26:862 (1) - mind giving this an interesting structure because rn its zzzz no I like it like that, nobody expects double-reverses anyways so that should wake up people enough, don't wanna scare them too much do we
01:31:246 (5,6) - why this spacing there is literally nothing to be emphasises lo uh I spaced all the major downbeats but realized that it indeed seems really dumb, tried making it not so dumb by spacing the other snares more too ( = 01:30:785 (2,3,4) and 01:34:478 (2,3,4) - )
01:43:016 (7,8) - maybe space these out a bit more they r p hard to read according to people who can just play these kind of mapszz (yes i asked around with some highranked players) oke spaced them a few pixels more lol, don't wanna not-overlap them bc I didn't do that at similar places either (also kudos to you for asking around, I appreciate the effort!)

apart from the snapped items fine i guess
where are my slidershapes tho /me runs at 00:04:016 (2) and 00:11:400 (2) -? D:

Side wrote:
[Bonzi]

damn it puxtu

00:01:939 (1,2) - This kinda sucks yo. 00:01:016 (3) - Copy this shape and rotate it slightly to keep 1.0x spacing. Looks better I don't see why it sucks so no D:

00:04:016 (2) - lul lu2

00:09:785 (2) - Make this a better curvy slider or uh...do another shape yeah do that instead. rude

00:15:785 (3) - You can also make this a repeat. Imo it's a bit better cuz of how she sings those 3 segments sound more tied together. Spacing is also similar. not sure whether I understood that correctly but it's very much the same as 00:14:862 (1) - so I map it the same way too xd

00:31:477 (3,1) - 00:35:169 (3,1) - kek (snap them to the red tick at most damn it puxtu

00:55:477 (1,2,3) - That's a pain to play tbh. Change 1 and 2 to a slider it plays much better for this diff. it's the same as 00:48:323 (2,3) - tho made the rhythm like that to differentiate the second&fourth (calmer) quaters from the first&third, spacing was a bit higher tho so I reduced that if that helps lol

map in here

osu file format v14

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Harbyter

Beatmap Nominator

1,364 posts

Joined October 2011

Harbyter 2016-08-26T22:25:31+00:00

where is the NM

BOYYYYY

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-27T07:01:49+00:00

Good question xd

DeletedUser_6181859

DeletedUser_6181859 2016-08-27T19:52:34+00:00

+2SR
instead modding xdxd

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

puxtu 2016-08-27T20:35:41+00:00

O thank

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-08-28T15:01:33+00:00

[General]

Unused hitsounds:
drum-hitclap2.wav

Hitsounds with delay:
drum-hitfinish2.wav

[Pish]

00:03:785 (1) - jump to this note would make more sense tho
00:11:169 (1) -
00:25:939 (1) -
actually you're following vocals I think, but still "rhythmic emphasis" pls

01:09:554 (2,3) - emphasizing snares less than kicks eek, 01:09:785 (4,5,6) - much better

01:14:746 (1) - 01:16:593 (1) - 01:18:439 (1) - etc. not sure what this follows tbh, both guitar and vocal end on the downbeat. the only reason I can think of is lower density/variety

01:15:323 (3) - 01:48:554 (3) - nice snapping

[Elvis]

00:01:939 (1,2,3,4,1) - I'm guessing you are going for the emphasis on the last note but it kinda fucks up your star patern really hard, much rather keep structure here and keep a complete star patern

00:06:785 (2,4) - 00:21:554 (2,4) - claps so random, don't really hear exceptional instrument in the song there

00:10:939 (1,2) - fix blanket pls, it's too off to be overlooked

00:12:093 (1,2,3) - don't really get how you decide to go in pairs of 3 suddenly and then in pairs of 5 00:13:708 (1,2,3,4,5) - when you always did them in pairs of 4

00:14:169 (3) - 00:28:939 (2) - the finish hitsound feels random aswell

00:25:477 (3,1) - pretty inconsistant considering you kept increasing spacing at 00:03:093 (2,3,1) -

00:44:400 (1,2) - 00:55:016 (1,2,1) - looks ew to me,

00:50:804 (5) - don't overmap pls, it also stands out as you didn't do it later at all

01:00:669 (4,5,6,1) - rather difficult to play because of flow at 5,6,1 is linear at this bpm kinda harsh

01:16:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - enable stacking and you'll notice how ugly it looks

01:30:900 - 01:34:593 - add note? too audible to ignore imo

01:44:631 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 01:46:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - etc. really long combos on these consider more NCs

[Fiery]

00:47:631 (1,2,3,4,1) - not a very light insane patern lol, could use a nerf

[Bonsai]

00:31:482 - 00:35:169 - much more intuitive if you start the slider here, having them start on blue tick is lol

01:00:785 (6,1) - 01:02:285 (4,1) - really misleading, on one spot you have 1/1 gap and increase spacing just for emphasis but then you have the same kind of idea but have 3/2 gap instead :/

01:26:862 (1) - cooler if you remove one repeat and add circle instead

[N/A]

seems fine

can you get more mods for elvis diff, I believe there are still things to improve there

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-08-28T15:31:57+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[Bonsai]

00:31:482 - 00:35:169 - much more intuitive if you start the slider here, having them start on blue tick is lol well the first one is just blue tick bc the lyrics are late for some reason, it's quite clear that it's supposed to be on the white ticks like at the second one - Anyways, as I replied to the previous mod too, that's just a matter of taste, I rather focus on lyrics instead of the guitar as that offers me more variation at 00:37:708 (2) and bc I generally pay more attention to lyrics than instrumentals when listenting to a song

01:00:785 (6,1) - 01:02:285 (4,1) - really misleading, on one spot you have 1/1 gap and increase spacing just for emphasis but then you have the same kind of idea but have 3/2 gap instead :/ I don't think anyone's gonna misread the first one and I even less think that anyone's gonna hit the second one too early either bc that would be a completely random rhythm, the rhythm is quite expectable - Lowered (6,1) a bit though since that seemed a bit too big anyhow so I guess that mildens this issue lol

01:26:862 (1) - cooler if you remove one repeat and add circle instead t a s t e (those four beats are 100% equally strong, why should I emphasize them so differently) (#osu!needsmoredoublereverses)

thank!

whoa you're a BN *gets nervous*

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oh also I shortened 01:56:862 (2) by 1/4 bc that's more accurate to the lyrics~

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-08-28T19:11:53+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[Fiery]

00:47:631 (1,2,3,4,1) - not a very light insane patern lol, could use a nerf nerfed slightly (ie made it a square) tho i don't want to nerf it too much since this is one of the climax points of the song in terms of drum intensity

http://puu.sh/qRFrd/6a9c055f10.osu

Natteke desu

2,487 posts

Joined August 2012

Natteke desu 2016-08-28T19:59:13+00:00

okay so, as i see many people had problems with spacing on the first part. In fact, i wasn't intended to straight emphazise vocals and tried to mix emphazising of hi-hats (what means consistent spacing, because there is actually no changes in how hi-hats sound) with vocals (what means some spacing changes obv) and sadly i didn't found any suggestion something i would apply. As for hitsounds, ye there is no sounds in the song which you can compare to some of them, because i actually tried to arrange stuff a bit, and i don't really think i would change my mind about this point.
Most of suggestions on other parts weren't applied as well, because they were about people preferences and i simply disagreed, however couple of them should have an explanation:
01:06:093 (3,4,5,6,1) - the reason of making this kind of spacing is emphazising cymbal, which can be emphazised by actuall spacing change exactly at the time where you can hear this cymbal sound or by doing some stuff before this sound, so as you could notice i decided to act in the second way, because idk, i felt like doing some edgy stuff
01:13:823 (4,1) - you don't really need to emphazise something by making spacings b i g g e r, you can emphazise things by making it closer as well, it works just fine for me
00:50:746 (4,5,6) - don't really see a reason why i shouldn't overmap here, because this 1/4 triplet giving a nice emphazise to upcoming jumpy stuff and it isn't that hard to play, in other words i believe it fits. The reason why i didn't overmapped here: 00:58:016 (3) - is part coming after this one not that intense as one here 00:50:746 (4,5,6) - and i don't think it would fit here.

Now about changed stuff: Sorry i can't recall where exactly i changed blankets but i really did! Now this 01:00:554 (3,4,5,6) - thing is sorta other thing and there were nazi spacing changes which probably won't be noticed

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